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(Mirror.co.uk)   Has the world's most elusive graffiti artist been caught on CCTV?   (mirror.co.uk ) divider line
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2014-04-16 03:31:51 PM  
Cameras - ironically set up to deter graffiti artists - filmed two people unloading kit from the back of a white van in the early hours of Sunday morning.

From doing what? Tagging the parking lot and that fence?
 
2014-04-16 03:44:34 PM  
El Barto?
 
2014-04-16 03:53:10 PM  
In before "it's not art, it's a crime" crowd shows up.
 
2014-04-16 03:54:23 PM  
That was boring even for CCTV surveillance footage.
 
2014-04-16 04:04:54 PM  
But does he have a douchebag tagging drone?
 
2014-04-16 04:27:01 PM  
It's not a crime, it's art!
 
2014-04-16 04:30:52 PM  
In before "it's not a crowd, it's art" crime shows up.
 
2014-04-16 04:32:05 PM  
redpaperclip.ca
 
2014-04-16 04:35:00 PM  

JerseyTim: El Barto?


The Phantom Menace.
 
2014-04-16 04:46:43 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: In before "it's not art, it's a crime" crowd shows up.


Defacing the property of others is a very cool thing, and should be honored and encouraged.
 
2014-04-16 04:46:50 PM  

shanrick: It's not a crime, it's art!


Only if it's good. Ironically, if you hired someone to put some real art on a big wall, some dick would vandalize it the first night.

/or not ironically.
 
2014-04-16 04:49:58 PM  
Graffiti artists wake up on Sunday morning?

fark that.
 
2014-04-16 04:50:45 PM  
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
My stuff is good. You're just making a mess!
 
2014-04-16 04:50:45 PM  

Relatively Obscure: In before "it's not a crowd, it's art" crime shows up.


If I tattoo a swastika in your forehead it's not assault it's art
 
2014-04-16 04:51:41 PM  

markfara: InterruptingQuirk: In before "it's not art, it's a crime" crowd shows up.

Defacing the property of others is a very cool thing, and should be honored and encouraged.



Most property owners in England would trade their kidneys to have Banksy "deface" their property by increasing its value by over $800,000.

http://www.fark.com/comments/8220096/Having-Banksy-paint-a-mural-on- yo ur-property-doubles-value-of-your-house-in-one-of-only-times-graffiti- has-ever-improved-anything
 
2014-04-16 04:52:32 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: In before "it's not art, it's a crime" crowd shows up.


It's only not a crime if you can have the farking thing removed and sold.

If you own property in a city, it sucks to wake up and see some BS tag on your building. Not some magically work of art but the 99.9998% of the rest of the graffiti.
 
2014-04-16 04:53:49 PM  

I love stencil-ish art.  I wanna try this.



Link
 
2014-04-16 04:53:52 PM  

CruJones: Relatively Obscure: In before "it's not a crowd, it's art" crime shows up.

If I tattoo a swastika in your forehead it's not assault it's art


Bodily autonomy is identical to property rights==half the stupid shiat I've heard come out of libertarian/republican mouths.

Yes, it's reasonable to prohibit it with minor penalties, no, it's not a big deal, you whiners.
Your concrete wall wasn't some precious piece of untouched beauty before.
 
2014-04-16 04:54:51 PM  
Pretty much any property owner with a clue would love Bansky to "vandalize" the place.

I must say I personally love this piece, as well.
 
2014-04-16 04:55:25 PM  
Banksy, rotsky, it's all the same.  Blights.
 
2014-04-16 04:56:56 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: markfara: InterruptingQuirk: In before "it's not art, it's a crime" crowd shows up.

Defacing the property of others is a very cool thing, and should be honored and encouraged.


Most property owners in England would trade their kidneys to have Banksy "deface" their property by increasing its value by over $800,000.

http://www.fark.com/comments/8220096/Having-Banksy-paint-a-mural-on- yo ur-property-doubles-value-of-your-house-in-one-of-only-times-graffiti- has-ever-improved-anything


Good for them. I'm guessing the amount spent to remove unwanted "art" from private property far exceeds that number.
 
2014-04-16 04:57:28 PM  

ikanreed: CruJones: Relatively Obscure: In before "it's not a crowd, it's art" crime shows up.

If I tattoo a swastika in your forehead it's not assault it's art

Bodily autonomy is identical to property rights==half the stupid shiat I've heard come out of libertarian/republican mouths.

Yes, it's reasonable to prohibit it with minor penalties, no, it's not a big deal, you whiners.
Your concrete wall wasn't some precious piece of untouched beauty before.


But hey! Me and my kids put our hand prints in that concrete circa 1995! How dare you paint over it!
 
2014-04-16 04:57:54 PM  
My opinion:  the vandalism vs. art argument is stupid.  It can be both at the same time.  In general, I think a far more useful question than "is it art?" would be "is it GOOD art?" and pretty damn often the answer is no.
 
2014-04-16 04:59:03 PM  

miniflea: My opinion:  the vandalism vs. art argument is stupid.  It can be both at the same time.  In general, I think a far more useful question than "is it art?" would be "is it GOOD art?" and pretty damn often the answer is no.


That's not even it. The question to ask is: "Is it something the owner wants there?"
 
2014-04-16 04:59:07 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Most property owners in England would trade their kidneys to have Banksy "deface" their property by increasing its value by over $800,000.


The problem is that most "artists" are just hacks whose works will never command a goddamned cent and for whom the general aesthetic consensus is that it detracts from their "canvas" and will instead impact the owner of it negatively.

Not every band that can hike their gear to a rooftop are The Beatles or U2.  Not every "artist" that can pick up a rattle can is Banksy.
 
2014-04-16 05:00:17 PM  
Wasn't this an episode of the boondocks?
 
2014-04-16 05:00:19 PM  

markfara: miniflea: My opinion:  the vandalism vs. art argument is stupid.  It can be both at the same time.  In general, I think a far more useful question than "is it art?" would be "is it GOOD art?" and pretty damn often the answer is no.

That's not even it. The question to ask is: "Is it something the owner wants there?"


That's a seperate question.  It can be art, even generally recognized as good/valuable art and still the owner is free to not want it.  If it is also vandalism, then the owner is within his rights to remove it.
 
2014-04-16 05:01:12 PM  
I hate graffiti vandals and think they should get their thumbs cut off for their crimes.

That being said, I like a lot of the Banksy stuff.
 
2014-04-16 05:02:44 PM  
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

/obscure?
 
2014-04-16 05:05:58 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Cameras - ironically set up to deter graffiti artists - filmed two people unloading kit from the back of a white van in the early hours of Sunday morning.

From doing what? Tagging the parking lot and that fence?


Still trying to figure out how you "ironically set up a camera"

Also, being caught on a camera that is set up to catch graffiti artists, and you are a graffiti artist....that's the complete opposite of irony. Glad to see it's not just the Yanks that fail at English grammar.
 
2014-04-16 05:06:25 PM  
That's far from the first footage or photos of Robin...er I mean Banksy...at work. They're all over the place. It's a pretty poorly kept secret, only really a secret because everyone that gives a shiat is fine letting him be "Banksy."
 
2014-04-16 05:07:15 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: In before "it's not art, it's a crime" crowd shows up.


It IS art... Actually, that was going to be the project for my documentary class before I had to quit school. I was going to cover graffiti as an artform vs. tagging. I see some amazing art, but mostly crap tagging.

Problem here is; when you put a piece up, the property owner still owns the property, so they can cover it up or chisel it off of the wall and sell it. People shouldn't be pissed that this guy took it down, or that plans to dell it. Fark them if this Banksy guy doesn't want that to happen, maybe he should confine his work to either community walls, or places where he gets the OK first. Same with his fans, they can totally fark off, since they have NO skin in this game. At least Banksy has the perspective of being the artist in question.

Alleyoop: [encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 299x168]

/obscure?


T-U-R-K 182!!
 
2014-04-16 05:07:15 PM  
I'm in favor of caning taggers (Singapore style)
 
2014-04-16 05:07:19 PM  

CruJones: Relatively Obscure: In before "it's not a crowd, it's art" crime shows up.

If I tattoo a swastika in your forehead it's not assault it's art


It can be both.
 
2014-04-16 05:07:30 PM  
www.banksy-prints.com
 
2014-04-16 05:08:20 PM  
ikanreed:
Yes, it's reasonable to prohibit it with minor penalties, no, it's not a big deal, you whiners.
Your concrete wall wasn't some precious piece of untouched beauty before.


Neither was your forehead!
 
2014-04-16 05:10:20 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: markfara: InterruptingQuirk: In before "it's not art, it's a crime" crowd shows up.

Defacing the property of others is a very cool thing, and should be honored and encouraged.


Most property owners in England would trade their kidneys to have Banksy "deface" their property by increasing its value by over $800,000.

http://www.fark.com/comments/8220096/Having-Banksy-paint-a-mural-on- yo ur-property-doubles-value-of-your-house-in-one-of-only-times-graffiti- has-ever-improved-anything


Well in that case it's ok....as long as other people REALLY like it, then you can do with my property what you wish.
 
2014-04-16 05:11:06 PM  
When it comes to if graffiti is art, I have to go the Potter Stewart "I know it when I see it" method of categorizing it. There's stuff that Banksy does that truly qualifies as art, but when it comes to simple untalented tagging it is obviously crap and the perps need to be smacked upside the head.
 
2014-04-16 05:11:15 PM  
media-cache-cd0.pinimg.com
 
2014-04-16 05:11:29 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: markfara: InterruptingQuirk: In before "it's not art, it's a crime" crowd shows up.

Defacing the property of others is a very cool thing, and should be honored and encouraged.


Most property owners in England would trade their kidneys to have Banksy "deface" their property by increasing its value by over $800,000.

http://www.fark.com/comments/8220096/Having-Banksy-paint-a-mural-on- yo ur-property-doubles-value-of-your-house-in-one-of-only-times-graffiti- has-ever-improved-anything


Then it shouldn't be hard to get permission and move from "vandalism" to "art".
 
2014-04-16 05:13:38 PM  
www.perfectunion.com
 
2014-04-16 05:15:04 PM  
I must be tired, I thought that said "elusive giraffe"
 
2014-04-16 05:16:26 PM  

That Guy Jeff: Cubicle Jockey: markfara: InterruptingQuirk: In before "it's not art, it's a crime" crowd shows up.

Defacing the property of others is a very cool thing, and should be honored and encouraged.


Most property owners in England would trade their kidneys to have Banksy "deface" their property by increasing its value by over $800,000.

http://www.fark.com/comments/8220096/Having-Banksy-paint-a-mural-on- yo ur-property-doubles-value-of-your-house-in-one-of-only-times-graffiti- has-ever-improved-anything

Then it shouldn't be hard to get permission and move from "vandalism" to "art".


Then it would no longer be art. It would be like planning something spontaneous
 
2014-04-16 05:19:12 PM  

uber humper: That Guy Jeff: Cubicle Jockey: markfara: InterruptingQuirk: In before "it's not art, it's a crime" crowd shows up.

Defacing the property of others is a very cool thing, and should be honored and encouraged.


Most property owners in England would trade their kidneys to have Banksy "deface" their property by increasing its value by over $800,000.

http://www.fark.com/comments/8220096/Having-Banksy-paint-a-mural-on- yo ur-property-doubles-value-of-your-house-in-one-of-only-times-graffiti- has-ever-improved-anything

Then it shouldn't be hard to get permission and move from "vandalism" to "art".

Then it would no longer be art. It would be like planning something spontaneous


i1.ytimg.com

/Not getting permission doesn't automatically make it art either.
 
2014-04-16 05:22:57 PM  
FTFA:  "I've had death threats today," Mr Stinchcombe said. "I said to them 'if you want to threaten me come down to the club and do it in the boxing ring'.

That's classy British for the internet's, "Say that shiat 2 my face fgt..."

/Something tells me Mr. Stinchcombe would whip their asses.
 
2014-04-16 05:25:58 PM  
uber humper:
Then it would no longer be art. It would be like planning something spontaneous

It would still be art.

/likes Banksy
 
2014-04-16 05:42:47 PM  

Alleyoop: [encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 299x168]

/obscure?


Who flew?
 
2014-04-16 05:43:57 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: [media-cache-cd0.pinimg.com image 600x441]


Nice.

My favourite graffito that I've personally seen was a modified logo of the home builder Barratt, on a site that had been derelict for years. The artist had painted over every second letter of the Barratt logo, then stencilled the elided letters on the end.

BARRATT

became:

B R A T A R T
 
2014-04-16 05:48:34 PM  
Chaka?
 
2014-04-16 05:50:09 PM  

uber humper: Then it would no longer be art.


If part of the art is the commission of a crime, then I have a performance where I take a crowbar to that 'artist's' car while yelling about finding strangers in the Alps.

i.imgur.com

Can't be mad, bro. We're both artists.
 
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