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(Gawker)   Teenager decides to take a selfie next to an oncoming train. Train conductor decides to give him a reality check with his boot   (gawker.com) divider line 138
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2014-04-16 01:51:31 PM
14 votes:
The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.

Plus, the kid is a weapons-grade douchebag who forfeited all his due process rights by standing there.  You jump the fence into the junkyard, you're welcoming Chopper to sic your balls.
2014-04-16 01:05:05 PM
12 votes:
Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.
2014-04-16 01:50:11 PM
11 votes:

cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.


You can hear the train blow its horn and somebody yelling at him and still the moran doesn't move. The conductor probably thought he was being helpful to someone too stupid or mentally disabled to get the fark out of the way.
2014-04-16 02:11:52 PM
10 votes:
Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

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2014-04-16 02:21:21 PM
9 votes:

BSABSVR: RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.

If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?


Setting aside the "sucking in" effect that others have mentioned, if you can't appreciate the difference between being struck by a rigid, sharp edged piece of metal, versus a boot that's on a human leg that has some give, then you shouldn't be trotting out "Physics, how does it work", because you don't understand the physics of energy transfer and impulse.
2014-04-16 01:58:10 PM
8 votes:
Only the most abject losers in a civilized society, will defend anyone putting themselves in Harm's Way, just to take a selfie.
2014-04-16 02:08:02 PM
7 votes:
img.fark.net

He's kicking the duckface out of him.
2014-04-16 01:38:12 PM
7 votes:
Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.
2014-04-16 01:13:39 PM
7 votes:

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.
2014-04-16 01:11:19 PM
7 votes:
Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.
2014-04-16 02:18:18 PM
6 votes:
Dear all the people who think the engineer was being a "douche" for "assaulting" that kid.

You are what is wrong with America.
2014-04-16 01:34:03 PM
6 votes:

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


It should be legal everywhere.
2014-04-16 01:56:58 PM
5 votes:

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.
2014-04-16 03:45:20 PM
4 votes:

rwhamann: if I was that kid's dad, I'd be shopping lawyers right now.


Of course you would, you worthless piece of opportunistic garbage.
2014-04-16 02:20:50 PM
4 votes:

Superjew: Dear all the people who think the engineer was being a "douche" for "assaulting" that kid.

You are what is wrong with America.


Exactly. Sometimes a kid needs a wake-up call proportional to the stupidity they are engaged in.
2014-04-16 02:12:14 PM
4 votes:
Train conducter saved the kid from the jagged piece of metal right behind his boot. I'd say he did the right thing.
2014-04-16 01:58:13 PM
4 votes:
So saving someone's life = good
Being aware for someone's well being by harming them a bit in comparison to their possible death = bad
2014-04-16 01:49:56 PM
4 votes:

edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.


Mythbusters busted that one.
2014-04-16 01:48:12 PM
4 votes:

InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.


trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.
2014-04-16 01:34:24 PM
4 votes:
Was the conductor a student of Ti Kwan Leep?
2014-04-16 05:14:56 PM
3 votes:
gifmaker.me
2014-04-16 03:43:58 PM
3 votes:

zimbomba63: One night, my girlfriend of the time and I were on the way to my local watering hole.  We were stop for a approaching train, about 5 cars from the gates.  A car pull out of line behind us and proceeds to drive around the gates.  My girlfriend said, "He's not going to make it!' and I said, "No, I think he across."  As usual, I was wrong.  The freight train, horn blaring and brakes screeching, comes flying through and seemed to clip the car, because the beam from the headlights went spinning through the trees.  I did a u-turn and took another route the bar.  When we got there,I told my friend what I had witnessed. One guys father was a train engineer, and he said his father told about one incident, where the same thing I saw happened. He said the train crew ran back to the busted up car and found the driver standing there unhurt, so they promptly began to beat the shiat out of him.


So...you witnessed a car getting hit by a train and you didn't stop to help, you just found a more convenient route to a bar.  CSB.
2014-04-16 03:38:59 PM
3 votes:

SpectroBoy: Your honor, the defendant was merely delivering a "freedom nudge". It would be prejudicial to call it a well-deserved swift kick to the head.


He got a level-shot boot to the head by someone on a moving train, and yet didn't even fall over or wince.  That was a soft-contact hit, not a "swift kick" by any means.  I get swift kicks to the face from bare-footed toddlers all the time and those hurt.  If that engineer was trying to "swift kick" him, he'd have been on his ass writhing in pain.

The kid won't sue because the evidence that he was placing himself in a trespassing situation and deliberately endangering himself at the liability of the railroad would sink any case possible.
2014-04-16 03:13:20 PM
3 votes:
I don't care what the rest of you doorknobs say, the guy did the right thing with his boot.  That piece of metal right behind his foot could have caught in that kid's skull and dragged him along under the train.  He saved his life, and got to boot a doush in the head.  He deserves a beer and we should all chip in to get him one... or several.
2014-04-16 02:52:50 PM
3 votes:
Damn kids these days!!!

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2014-04-16 02:45:31 PM
3 votes:
Anyone who thinks this was wrong is pro-snowflake
2014-04-16 02:43:19 PM
3 votes:

durbnpoisn: 'm going to go with, perhaps the conductor was simply trying to nudge him away from the train for his own safety.  But, being on a moveing train, he hit him harder than expected.


I'm going to go with, if you're close enough to a moving train to be touched by the engineer in any fashion, you are too goddamned close and deserve to be kicked in the head.
2014-04-16 02:39:27 PM
3 votes:
The many faces of Jared Michael

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2014-04-16 02:34:44 PM
3 votes:

picturescrazy: gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

Yeah I thought the kick was a dick move at first no matter how much the kid deserved it, but seeing that it looks like it was potentiality the best outcome.


Ditto. It doesn't look like the engineer could have possibly caught the kid on a forward swing of the leg- more like the guy was aware of that hunk of metal and stuck his foot in front of it to protect him.

I wouldn't be shocked if the engineer at least had a bruise from that metal loop... he could have broken his ankle trying to save that stupid shiat of a teenager.
2014-04-16 02:34:17 PM
3 votes:
I understand the people arguing that the train conductor was wrong to kick him, but inclined to think the kid was probably in more danger from the rest of the train. It might be the conductor was going to try and push him from behind, away from the train, but misjudged just how close the kid was.

The train can't stop. If the conductor does nothing, that kid might be dead.

The conductor yelled, but the kid is wearing headphones and acting like he doesn't give two shiats the train is going by. At that point... what do YOU do? Let him get killed by the flatbed car three links down that protrudes an extra foot more than the locomotive?

That's what it boils down to... if it is YOU, you can't stop the train in time to save him, so what do YOU do? I'd say he used the least amount of force to save the guy's life.

Of course, we will always have Farkers who will shout "battery!" when a transit worker shoves a potential victim out of the way of an incoming subway train or other similar situation, I guess.
2014-04-16 02:26:40 PM
3 votes:

gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.


Yeah I thought the kick was a dick move at first no matter how much the kid deserved it, but seeing that it looks like it was potentiality the best outcome.
2014-04-16 02:26:11 PM
3 votes:

Superjew: Dear all the people who think the engineer was being a "douche" for "assaulting" that kid.

You are what is wrong with America.


Pretty much this.  Keyboard critics.

A kid standing that close to a freight train is basically standing in the middle of an interstate.  All to try to get a few likes on instagram or facebook.  Must've scared the shiat out of the engineer.
2014-04-16 02:17:38 PM
3 votes:
Nice kick (if it indeed was a real human in that boot) I'd by that engineer a beer.

GTFO the tracks, asshole.
2014-04-16 02:15:35 PM
3 votes:

Gotfire: [img.fark.net image 635x322]

He's kicking the duckface out of him.


There's a photo that deserves to be a meme.
2014-04-16 02:13:46 PM
3 votes:

gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

[i.imgur.com image 642x435]


Yeah, I could see that the engineer couldn't tell for sure if the metal would hit him or not and did the kid a favor just in case.
2014-04-16 02:12:33 PM
3 votes:
It wasn't even a "kick". He hung his leg out there and let it slap dumbass in the head. If he was trying to injure the kid he could have hit him a lot harder.
2014-04-16 02:09:39 PM
3 votes:
Both sides are bad so vote for the idiot kid who knows nothing about how big train cars are against the engineer who has to live with the results of accidents and suicides.
2014-04-16 01:54:42 PM
3 votes:
Nicely done, Mr. Engineer.
2014-04-16 01:51:33 PM
3 votes:
Obviously the kid's an idiot:

Michael says in the video. "I think I got that on film!"

Stupid kid, cellphones don't use film.

Oh, and don't stand so close to a moving train.
2014-04-16 09:17:27 PM
2 votes:

rbuzby: Something out of the frame might have hit the guy if he stayed there, but nothing in the frame other than the boot was about to hit him.


i.imgur.com

I think you need some glasses. And visit a couple of train yards.

/lived behind one
2014-04-16 04:47:06 PM
2 votes:

cryinoutloud: Mikey1969: You don't fark around with trains when they fling you an extra 100 feet AFTER they stop.
That sucks the person you know got hit. That sounds brutal.

I watched a video of a person being hit by a train at a depot (it wasn't stopping, and she stepped out in front of one that was stopped and BAM). She got flung probably 100 feet, almost right into the security camera that recorded it. Fast. Very, very fast.

Another one of those things on the internet that I kind of wish I hadn't watched.


Yeah, this girl was just a rag doll when we found her. Apparently when the train had come, she'd kneeled on the tracks and held her hands up like it would stop the train.
2014-04-16 04:12:40 PM
2 votes:

AndreMA: Egoy3k: that loop of steel or any other protrusion could have easily dazed the kid

Unlike a shod foot?


Which would you think is more likely to daze someone?

5 square centimeters of Rubber boot connected to a flexible leg.

.5 square centimeters of steel with no give.
2014-04-16 03:51:56 PM
2 votes:

Literally Addicted: So...you witnessed a car getting hit by a train and you didn't stop to help, you just found a more convenient route to a bar.  CSB.


When trains hit things, they stop and must assess damage.   From the posters description, he was on the opposite side of the tracks... as in, the train would have been between him and the car that got hit.  Therefore, there was nothing he could have done, and its likely the train would have been sitting there blocking the road for quite awhile.

...and trains are really long, and take some distance to stop, so no, simply walking around it was probably not an option.

/Arm chairing things is fun.
2014-04-16 03:46:10 PM
2 votes:
I think the conductor was trying to save the kid and get him clear. If he wanted to hurt him, I'm sure he had a length of pipe or a hammer handy.
2014-04-16 03:28:52 PM
2 votes:
One night, my girlfriend of the time and I were on the way to my local watering hole.  We were stop for a approaching train, about 5 cars from the gates.  A car pull out of line behind us and proceeds to drive around the gates.  My girlfriend said, "He's not going to make it!' and I said, "No, I think he across."  As usual, I was wrong.  The freight train, horn blaring and brakes screeching, comes flying through and seemed to clip the car, because the beam from the headlights went spinning through the trees.  I did a u-turn and took another route the bar.  When we got there,I told my friend what I had witnessed. One guys father was a train engineer, and he said his father told about one incident, where the same thing I saw happened. He said the train crew ran back to the busted up car and found the driver standing there unhurt, so they promptly began to beat the shiat out of him.
2014-04-16 03:27:40 PM
2 votes:

Zul the Magnificent: I'm going with "the engineer is a douche" here.  Why the fark didn't he just swerve a few feet to the right if he was so concerned about the kid?


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2014-04-16 03:19:25 PM
2 votes:
I'm going with "the engineer is a douche" here.  Why the fark didn't he just swerve a few feet to the right if he was so concerned about the kid?
2014-04-16 03:17:05 PM
2 votes:

SpectroBoy: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

Does US law also allow you to kick trespassers in the head?

I thought not.


No, we don't let them get that close, we'll just shoot them - and in most cases, it's legal.

I also wanted to add. You can hear the air horn AND the engineer yelling "HEY!" at the top of his lungs - the kid doesn't even react, probably because of his headphones is my guess. This is his face while the horn is going off, and he doesn't turn his head to the yell - these are signs he hears NOTHING.

img.fark.net
2014-04-16 02:40:38 PM
2 votes:
Boot to the head!
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2014-04-16 02:23:35 PM
2 votes:
There are heroes who run into burning buildings, heroes that jump in front of that bullet, others that dive into roiling sea. Then there are those who do their small, unsung part to amuse us all at the expense of a f*cktard.
2014-04-16 02:21:06 PM
2 votes:
Why don't they look.

/Hipster got lucky - don't turn your back on a passing train - esp that close.  Engineer/conductor has a case that he was pushing him outta the way.

//I agree, looked a bit like a VIA loco
2014-04-16 02:19:33 PM
2 votes:

abhorrent1: edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.

Mythbusters busted that one.


IIRC, what they tested was if someone standing on a station platform could be sucked under a speeding train, which is slightly different from this situation.

Also IIRC, above a certain speed, Buster did get blown over, though not sucked under. It is at least conceivable that getting blown over while standing down low in the gravel could cause you to fall in towards the train where you will get hurt. Even if that's not the case, there is still a difference between a mannequin and a person: when blown over, Buster just topples. A human might try to protect his or herself from the fall by extending an arm into harm's way.

/Still one of my favourite tv shows
2014-04-16 02:10:59 PM
2 votes:
Warthog: The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.

Even without any extra-wide protuberances on the train it's a dumb idea to stand that close to a moving train, the engineer may have been trying to push him a safe away. The kid is an idiot, but then that's what teenagers usually are, and the engineer may have been trying to protect him from himself.
2014-04-16 02:10:01 PM
2 votes:
I'm all for breaking some rules to get a good pic.
I'm also for spur-of-the-moment assault on someone whose stupidy might have a great negative effect on your life.
2014-04-16 02:08:31 PM
2 votes:

BSABSVR: RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.

If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?


The leg attached to that boot probably absorbed more of the force than a wider train car that would have hit him would have. I can't see how anyone would conclude anything other than the boot was significantly less dangerous.
2014-04-16 02:06:25 PM
2 votes:
Engineers and bulls have a well developed hatred of gunsels and train fans. I've had them throw shiat at me from moving trains because I was standing on public property taking pictures. The fact that train fans are some of the biggest supporters of their dying industry doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. Train bulls are right up there with prison guards in the 'too dumb to be a cop but still craves the power' scale. The kid may have been wrong, but kicking him in the head was just being a douche.
2014-04-16 02:05:36 PM
2 votes:
meh, conductors used to use shotguns loaded with rock salt. A rubber boot to the melon ain't nothin' compared to a backside with salt buried a quarter inch in.
2014-04-16 02:04:43 PM
2 votes:

Warthog: The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.

Plus, the kid is a weapons-grade douchebag who forfeited all his due process rights by standing there.  You jump the fence into the junkyard, you're welcoming Chopper to sic your balls.


This, this and this.

I'm also going with the conductor was trying to get him out of the way. Fwiw, the conductor was probably putting himself at risk as well. He had to get out of the cab, extend his foot out and try to hit a stationary object while probably going at least 30mph. If I tried that, I'd probably wind up under the train.
2014-04-16 02:04:14 PM
2 votes:

InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.


This so much this!!!!

Warthog: Plus, the kid is a weapons-grade douchebag who forfeited all his due process rights by standing there. You jump the fence into the junkyard, you're welcoming Chopper to sic your balls.


Also this!!! He was the idiot standing within kicking distance of the train...He's lucky he's not dead... and not as a result of the boot, but being hit by a part of a trailing car with a wider berth than the locomotive.
2014-04-16 02:01:51 PM
2 votes:

cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.


Maybe the engineer was trying to push the kid out of the way (for his own safety) and it ended up as a kick?
2014-04-16 01:59:18 PM
2 votes:
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2014-04-16 01:54:16 PM
2 votes:
Nobody takes a selfie next to Shack's train
2014-04-16 01:50:29 PM
2 votes:
Justice served. Too bad Darwin was robbed.
2014-04-16 01:30:29 PM
2 votes:

gilgigamesh:  he could have wound up under the wheels.


Which would teach him never to do it again, right?
2014-04-17 01:23:18 PM
1 votes:

mikemil828: You don't think the train wouldn't have to stop if the conductor broke his ankle on the guy's head?


That's correct, it wouldn't have to stop in that case.  Onboard injuries are not a reason to stop a train.

I'm baffled as to why you are so resistant to the obvious reality that this railroad worker quite likely saved that stupid kid's life with his entirely appropriate action.
2014-04-17 12:07:39 PM
1 votes:
What's infinitely more important than whether the train engineer did the right thing, or endangered the kid more, or saved the kid's life, is that it ENTERTAINED ME.
2014-04-17 11:48:24 AM
1 votes:
Engineer is a hero.  How many stupid people get hit by trains because they were wearing headphones every year?

I bet these people would gladly exchange places with the guy from this video:

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/24225945/ga-man-wearing-headphones -h it-by-train-killed#axzz2z4yQCR6E

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/04/10/6313760/train-kills-truckee-woman-w ea ring.html

http://www.kenoshanews.com/news/teen_hit_by_train_was_wearing_headph on es_450745604.html
2014-04-17 09:22:57 AM
1 votes:

FLMountainMan: AndreMA: FLMountainMan: AndreMA: That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.

If you get the opportunity, you should probably kill yourself.

I'm having too much fun with geographically impaired people who think there are mountains in Florida...

Not all of us can be creative enough to have fark handles with first name, postal abbreviation for state of residence.

Maud Dib: FLMountainMan:

Let me guess - liberal?

/Funny how it breaks down that way

Funny how you'd bring your political derp into a goddamn video thread.

It's only derp because your vagina's too sandy to have a rational discussion.  Really, poll your friends sometime about how they liked the ending of True Detective.  If you have any conservative friends, they will tend to like it.  Liberals tend to not like it.  This does not validate the principles of small government, nor does it validate the principles of a larger government.  It's just an interesting tidbit.


What part of the ending did you think I disliked? It wasn't the catch the guy and nearly die doing it part, it was the weak dialogue delivered during the hospital escape that gave an anticlimactic vibe to the show's end. Again I ask, what were you on about?
2014-04-17 07:24:01 AM
1 votes:

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


I don't have the words to describe just how farking stupid this comment is.
2014-04-17 05:45:19 AM
1 votes:

rbuzby: lack of warmth: imnotadoctor: gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.

It's settled then. They're both idiots.

Keep going down the thread where you'll find the picture of the piece of steel that would've took off the kid's head if the foot wasn't there, and you'll see who really was the idiot.

Look at what hairbolus posted above.  It doesn't look like anything is protruding.  The black bar is behind the yellow bar, and the foot doesn't hit anything other than the neck.


Maybe dumbass wouldn't have been hit by any protruding metal, but do you think the engineer could gauge it that quickly? If dumbass is close enough for him to boot, he's probably close enough to MAYBE get hit by something sticking out, but DEFINITELY close enough to die if he loses his balance or even sways a bit. Engineer was doing him a gigantic solid. As I said before, if the engineer was malicious, he has access to pipes, hammers, hot coffee...if he wanted to hurt, maim or kill Dumbass, Dumbass' video wouldn't have seen the light of day and his death would be ruled a suicide.
2014-04-17 04:53:20 AM
1 votes:
I hope the engineer is OK
2014-04-17 04:37:15 AM
1 votes:

zimbomba63: One night, my girlfriend of the time and I were on the way to my local watering hole.  We were stop for a approaching train, about 5 cars from the gates.  A car pull out of line behind us and proceeds to drive around the gates.  My girlfriend said, "He's not going to make it!' and I said, "No, I think he across."  As usual, I was wrong.  The freight train, horn blaring and brakes screeching, comes flying through and seemed to clip the car, because the beam from the headlights went spinning through the trees.  I did a u-turn and took another route the bar.  When we got there,I told my friend what I had witnessed. One guys father was a train engineer, and he said his father told about one incident, where the same thing I saw happened. He said the train crew ran back to the busted up car and found the driver standing there unhurt, so they promptly began to beat the shiat out of him.


From up close, trains always move seem to be moving very slowly. Many people have died underestimating the speed of an oncoming locomotive.
2014-04-17 01:29:10 AM
1 votes:

khyberkitsune: rbuzby: Something out of the frame might have hit the guy if he stayed there, but nothing in the frame other than the boot was about to hit him.

[i.imgur.com image 642x435]

I think you need some glasses. And visit a couple of train yards.

/lived behind one


So, not so much "kicked in the head by the engineer" as "saved from a brutal head injury by the conductor." Good.
2014-04-17 12:04:32 AM
1 votes:

mikemil828: factoryconnection: SpectroBoy: Your honor, the defendant was merely delivering a "freedom nudge". It would be prejudicial to call it a well-deserved swift kick to the head.

He got a level-shot boot to the head by someone on a moving train, and yet didn't even fall over or wince.  That was a soft-contact hit, not a "swift kick" by any means.  I get swift kicks to the face from bare-footed toddlers all the time and those hurt.  If that engineer was trying to "swift kick" him, he'd have been on his ass writhing in pain.

The kid won't sue because the evidence that he was placing himself in a trespassing situation and deliberately endangering himself at the liability of the railroad would sink any case possible.

Bear in mind that his boot had the energy of a train behind it, to be honest the train company has good reason to fire him, not because he hit the guy, but because he could have broken his own ankle on the guy's head.

/The actual heroic thing to have done in this case is to just let the guy get hit by the train.



If that were the case the kids brains would be splattered everywhere... A fixed rigid body (like the metal loop) would have the force of the train, a soft body that gives way, not so much... It's like saying a fun-noodle sticking off the side could have hit the guy in the head with the force of a train..
2014-04-16 11:25:07 PM
1 votes:
gilgigamesh:
Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Conservation of momentum does not work like that. Physics!
2014-04-16 06:24:43 PM
1 votes:

jst3p: factoryconnection: Zul the Magnificent: Not sure it matters if the head is SOLID BONE.

Here's the odd thing about this statement: you have one of these-here heads that you're describing.  You've no doubt struck it on all manner of things, from nerf balls to steel street signs.  Given that your head is a constant composition throughout, can you really say that the material/object striking it make no difference?

Because that would be really dumb.

That and the head isn't solid bone. Pretty hollow actually.


Zul is implying that the kid has no brain. But thanks for your lesson in anatomy.
2014-04-16 05:26:16 PM
1 votes:
FLMountainMan:

Let me guess - liberal?

/Funny how it breaks down that way


Funny how you'd bring your political derp into a goddamn video thread.
2014-04-16 04:51:48 PM
1 votes:

factoryconnection: Zul the Magnificent: Not sure it matters if the head is SOLID BONE.

Here's the odd thing about this statement: you have one of these-here heads that you're describing.  You've no doubt struck it on all manner of things, from nerf balls to steel street signs.  Given that your head is a constant composition throughout, can you really say that the material/object striking it make no difference?

Because that would be really dumb.


Now ah may be just a simple country lawyer, but ah reckon the feller was makin' hisself a hyperbolic statement, that is, implyin' that the feller's head what coulda got hit by thet there train was bone throughout - no gray matter a'tall. Just a mass 'o solid bone, like what you fine ladies and gennuhmin o' the jury might roll down a tenpin lane.

The joke, ah say the joke just flew ovah ya haid, son.
2014-04-16 04:42:11 PM
1 votes:

factoryconnection: Zul the Magnificent: Not sure it matters if the head is SOLID BONE.

Here's the odd thing about this statement: you have one of these-here heads that you're describing.  You've no doubt struck it on all manner of things, from nerf balls to steel street signs.  Given that your head is a constant composition throughout, can you really say that the material/object striking it make no difference?

Because that would be really dumb.


That and the head isn't solid bone. Pretty hollow actually.
2014-04-16 04:36:47 PM
1 votes:

Zul the Magnificent: Not sure it matters if the head is SOLID BONE.


Here's the odd thing about this statement: you have one of these-here heads that you're describing.  You've no doubt struck it on all manner of things, from nerf balls to steel street signs.  Given that your head is a constant composition throughout, can you really say that the material/object striking it make no difference?

Because that would be really dumb.
2014-04-16 04:31:00 PM
1 votes:

zimbomba63: One night, my girlfriend of the time and I were on the way to my local watering hole.  We were stop for a approaching train, about 5 cars from the gates.  A car pull out of line behind us and proceeds to drive around the gates.  My girlfriend said, "He's not going to make it!' and I said, "No, I think he across."  As usual, I was wrong.  The freight train, horn blaring and brakes screeching, comes flying through and seemed to clip the car, because the beam from the headlights went spinning through the trees.  I did a u-turn and took another route the bar.  When we got there,I told my friend what I had witnessed. One guys father was a train engineer, and he said his father told about one incident, where the same thing I saw happened. He said the train crew ran back to the busted up car and found the driver standing there unhurt, so they promptly began to beat the shiat out of him.


As they should, do you know how big a pain in the ass those accident reports and the insurance paper work is?
2014-04-16 04:30:40 PM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: rosekolodny: Mikey1969: edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.

Yep... We had 3 or 4 people a year get hit by a train in Flagstaff, most were people illegally crossing, or drunks on the tracks, but every once in awhile, someone got sucked in... 2/3 of downtown was on one side of the tracks, the rest on the other, and even waiting for a train  to go by, standing just outside the barrier, you could feel that shiat. It was actually pretty cool.

I'm in Flag, and I know someone here who was standing close to the train because the rushing wind felt cool... right up until something sticking out of the train smacked him, breaking off the top of his femur and shattering everloving fark out of his pelvis.  It's amazing he learned to walk again.

This story came to mind the other night when I watched a drunk dude try to get his head reeeeeel close to the train.  I said something to him and his friends, but in their opinion he didn't die so it's fine.  Also, wooooooooo-hoooooooo! and baaaarf!

I was wondering if they still had freight trains blasting through town. I would have figured they''d slow 'em down at this point. I used to live directly uphill from the Mike And Rhonda's on the West side. We were like 75 feet from the tracks, and a train hit someone one night. I hadn't even noticed a train was going by because I got good at ignoring them.. My roommate worked for the paper, so we went out to see what was going on, and ended up being the people who found the body. It was in a yard at least 100 feet farther down the tracks from where the train itself hit her.

You don't fark around with trains when they fling you an extra 100 feet AFTER they stop.

That sucks the person you know got hit. That sounds brutal.


Heh - I don't think those little houses by Mike & Rhonda's have gotten much better since you've been gone, even though the trains don't blow their horns through town anymore.  Noise pollution, you know.

Most of the train fatalities I've heard about/seen involve hamburger and chunks scattered for a block or two... so my friend knows he got off lucky.  One of the more depressing accidents here in the last few years had the following ingredients:

1. Old tourist couple was driving South on a North-bound one way street.
2. One way streets only have crossing guards on one side, so the confused driver pulled up to the guard... ONTO THE TRACKS.
3. Train could not stop.
2014-04-16 04:05:09 PM
1 votes:

Literally Addicted: So...you witnessed a car getting hit by a train and you didn't stop to help, you just found a more convenient route to a bar.  CSB.


Well yeah, a man has his priorities. I'm taking points off though because he didn't get "video" of the incident.
2014-04-16 03:46:40 PM
1 votes:
Bet the conductor was twenty-five.

/speed jive don't want to stay alive when you're twenty-five
2014-04-16 03:44:41 PM
1 votes:
If you don't want to get hit by a train, don't stand next to it.

/instant correction good for dogs and stupid humans
2014-04-16 03:40:40 PM
1 votes:
I"m gonna decline to hero-ize the conductor, but if the conductor of a train is close enough to touch you as the train passes, you're TOO farkING CLOSE TO THE TRAIN, ASSHOLE.
2014-04-16 03:33:39 PM
1 votes:
The shiatty part about this is that the kid probably will get a big payout, despite the train driver trying to save his life. Had the driver let him die, then there wouldn't be a lawsuit.

But in the end, it's the driver who has to live with himself.

Also, this thread needs more hyperbole. Back to the murder comments.
2014-04-16 03:16:57 PM
1 votes:

uber humper: gunther_bumpass: uber humper:
[chart.apis.google.com image 500x200]
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html


Argh. That chart.  Is that  3 cents or .03 cents?   $.03  or $.0003 ?

furthermore - what the hell is "$10 bucks"  Ten dollar bucks? What the fark is a dollar buck?  Writing means things!

Haha

The link is a little better

It's three cents. 3/100th of a dollar. 30/1000ths of a saw buck. 300/10000 of a c-note


Ah. ok. It's just that the chart is a little unclear.  flat out wrong, actually.  Thank you!

Now I want to ship some heavy shiat by rail.
2014-04-16 03:16:50 PM
1 votes:

OddLlama: zixr: Did I miss the memo, or is everyone now taking selfies with video instead of snapshots?

I was starting to think I was the only one wondering this.


Vine with its six second video clips is to blame.
2014-04-16 03:14:21 PM
1 votes:

uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land.  About 3 cents per ton per mile.  Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while


This.  As the cost of oil keeps going up, reaching prohibitively expensive levels, rail will come back into the forefront of moving things from place to place, instead of hugely inefficient trucks.

A smart man looking for a long term investment would put some money into rail companies.


Also, as those pictures show that everyone is posting, this engineer was a farking hero that saved that kids life by protecting him from that metal protrusion on the train,  not a douchebag.
2014-04-16 03:08:52 PM
1 votes:
uber humper:
[chart.apis.google.com image 500x200]
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html



Argh. That chart.  Is that  3 cents or .03 cents?   $.03  or $.0003 ?

furthermore - what the hell is "$10 bucks"  Ten dollar bucks? What the fark is a dollar buck?  Writing means things!
2014-04-16 03:08:48 PM
1 votes:

KidneyStone: edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.

I've stood close to speeding trains and never got sucked under.  It's an old wives tale.


I knew somebody that died a few years ago while walking along the tracks and thinking there was enough distance between him and the train coming up behind him.
Nope.
Kid deserved a boot to the head, should apologize to the conductor and do community service or be punished somehow, but he'll probably try to sue instead of taking responsibility for his own actions.
2014-04-16 03:05:58 PM
1 votes:

redsquid: Engineers and bulls have a well developed hatred of gunsels and train fans. I've had them throw shiat at me from moving trains because I was standing on public property taking pictures. The fact that train fans are some of the biggest supporters of their dying industry doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. Train bulls are right up there with prison guards in the 'too dumb to be a cop but still craves the power' scale. The kid may have been wrong, but kicking him in the head was just being a douche.


Do tell. Just what do you know about train bulls and prison guards?

Please site specific examples and your Prisoner Identification number, as well as the facility you served time at.
2014-04-16 03:05:14 PM
1 votes:

HairBolus: I've noticed in this thread some are calling the kicker "the engineer" while others "the conductor". I was probably the conductor.

In current North American trains the engineer drives the train and is the top paid job while the conductor is second in charge and is responsible for everything else (including supervising the rest of the train crew if it exists - freight trains may be crewed by just an engineer and a conductor). This notion of conductor is not to be confused with "ticket taker" on a passenger train.

... conductors duties include: ...  Be alert to wayside signals, switch position, and other conditions that affect safe train movement

The engineer probably stayed at the controls while the conductor went out to address the safety issue, though if there was lesser other crew on board then one of them might have been sent out.



I'm kinda hoping that once they got back to the yard, the conductor's duties included painting a little boot on the side of the engine.
2014-04-16 03:04:14 PM
1 votes:

Maud Dib: redsquid: Engineers and bulls have a well developed hatred of gunsels and train fans. I've had them throw shiat at me from moving trains because I was standing on public property taking pictures. The fact that train fans are some of the biggest supporters of their dying industry doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. Train bulls are right up there with prison guards in the 'too dumb to be a cop but still craves the power' scale. The kid may have been wrong, but kicking him in the head was just being a douche.

Dying industry?
Railroad freight revenue was 4.1 Billlllion dollars in 2009. In 2011, it was 65 billion.
And now they're hauling a shiat-ton of oil.
So yeah, it's totally a dying industry.


It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land.  About 3 cents per ton per mile.  Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

chart.apis.google.com
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html
2014-04-16 03:02:58 PM
1 votes:

BillDozer357: Seems like a weird place to have a protruding piece of metal, right at the top of the step ladder...


Yeah, I'm sure the folks who designed, approved and built the thing put it there arbitrarily.
2014-04-16 02:51:40 PM
1 votes:

redsquid: Engineers and bulls have a well developed hatred of gunsels and train fans. I've had them throw shiat at me from moving trains because I was standing on public property taking pictures. The fact that train fans are some of the biggest supporters of their dying industry doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. Train bulls are right up there with prison guards in the 'too dumb to be a cop but still craves the power' scale. The kid may have been wrong, but kicking him in the head was just being a douche.


Dying industry?
Railroad freight revenue was 4.1 Billlllion dollars in 2009. In 2011, it was 65 billion.
And now they're hauling a shiat-ton of oil.
So yeah, it's totally a dying industry.
2014-04-16 02:49:24 PM
1 votes:
Dumbwad is lucky it was just a boot and not a red-hot, ten pound brake pad whizzing toward his stupid head at over 60 mph.
/Once saw a deer EXPLODE
2014-04-16 02:45:52 PM
1 votes:

SuperNinjaToad: As much as the kid may deserve it, conductor needs to be charge for attempted manslaughter!


Conductor should be commended for taking the only action available that he could to get this moron away from a speeding train.
2014-04-16 02:39:57 PM
1 votes:

RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.


Would you say he was in a zone of danger?
2014-04-16 02:34:39 PM
1 votes:
Was always told to stay off the ballast/subballast (the rocks under the tracks) by a relative who worked on trains. One of the reason I remember was  because the metal cargo tie downs (the same type used to secure pallets of wood) that are used on some cars will occasionally snap and drag along side of the railcars.  Supposedly acts like a razor blade.  Never seen one dragging on a passing train, but I can see how that would happen.
2014-04-16 02:29:34 PM
1 votes:

SpectroBoy: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

Does US law also allow you to kick trespassers in the head?

I thought not.


It obligates you to notify the trespasser of known dangers and attempt to minimize the harm to the trespasser from those dangers.  Which the engineer did, by blasting the train horn, then yelling, and when that failed, nudging the kid aside with his boot.
2014-04-16 02:29:32 PM
1 votes:

LeroyBourne: I can understand his gut reaction to kick the selfie guy in the head, not saying it was right.


I'm going to go with, perhaps the conductor was simply trying to nudge him away from the train for his own safety.  But, being on a moveing train, he hit him harder than expected.
2014-04-16 02:29:31 PM
1 votes:

img.fark.net


Sweep the head


img.fark.net

2014-04-16 02:27:31 PM
1 votes:

Warthog: The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.

Plus, the kid is a weapons-grade douchebag who forfeited all his due process rights by standing there.  You jump the fence into the junkyard, you're welcoming Chopper to sic your balls.


This.
2014-04-16 02:23:36 PM
1 votes:

gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

[i.imgur.com image 642x435]


Yeah, that "douchebag" probably saved the kids life.
2014-04-16 02:23:36 PM
1 votes:

real_headhoncho: Was the conductor a student of Ti Kwan Leep?


Thanks for posting that link. Seriously.
Stopped my day from going down the toilet.


/ You win many Internets
2014-04-16 02:23:13 PM
1 votes:

gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

[i.imgur.com image 642x435]


Holy Carp. The driver was trying to keep the kid from getting hit in the head by a hunk of metal. This wasn't a smack-down, the driver was saving the prat's life.
2014-04-16 02:17:36 PM
1 votes:
Foot bone connected to the jaaaaw bone!
2014-04-16 02:17:24 PM
1 votes:
Did I miss the memo, or is everyone now taking selfies with video instead of snapshots?
2014-04-16 02:15:27 PM
1 votes:
i171.photobucket.com
2014-04-16 02:13:52 PM
1 votes:

Brawndo: Warthog: The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.

Plus, the kid is a weapons-grade douchebag who forfeited all his due process rights by standing there.  You jump the fence into the junkyard, you're welcoming Chopper to sic your balls.

This, this and this.

I'm also going with the conductor was trying to get him out of the way. Fwiw, the conductor was probably putting himself at risk as well. He had to get out of the cab, extend his foot out and try to hit a stationary object while probably going at least 30mph. If I tried that, I'd probably wind up under the train.


There is no way that train is going 30 mph
2014-04-16 02:11:45 PM
1 votes:

uber humper: meh, conductors used to use shotguns loaded with rock salt. A rubber boot to the melon ain't nothin' compared to a backside with salt buried a quarter inch in.


Rock salt doesn't shoot very well.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot33.htm
2014-04-16 02:10:33 PM
1 votes:

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


Did the boot leave a mark on your face?
2014-04-16 02:06:44 PM
1 votes:

wellreadneck: More of a quick caress than a kick.


No, this Is a caress.

That was a boot to the face.
2014-04-16 02:06:29 PM
1 votes:

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


You calling it "attempted murder" is equally rational.
2014-04-16 02:04:51 PM
1 votes:
The kid was acting like an idiot (as teenagers are prone to do) but the conductor is a colossal prick.
2014-04-16 02:04:30 PM
1 votes:

RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.


If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?
2014-04-16 02:04:28 PM
1 votes:

cannotsuggestaname: trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter.


seaglassvillage.files.wordpress.com
2014-04-16 02:03:23 PM
1 votes:
That slow motion gif is priceless
2014-04-16 02:03:02 PM
1 votes:
He was pushing him out of the way of the train.
2014-04-16 02:02:25 PM
1 votes:
Nice! But very dangerous.

Better to have actually flicked a kick to his head so he falls away from the train. Or whipped his willy out and pissed on the guy's head.

I would have liked to have seen the later.

http://youtu.be/JaKo3g19E9Y
2014-04-16 02:01:16 PM
1 votes:

real_headhoncho: Was the conductor a student of Ti Kwan Leep?


I didn't click, but only because as soon as I read it, I heard the entire sketch in my head.

But yeah, the teen might be a doucheball, but wouldn't what the conductor did be considered battery?
2014-04-16 02:00:56 PM
1 votes:
I would buy this engineer a beer if I could.  Too bad he only got him on the side of the head and not right in the face.
2014-04-16 02:00:54 PM
1 votes:

Warthog: The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.


This is what I was thinking.
2014-04-16 02:00:07 PM
1 votes:

edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.


Yep... We had 3 or 4 people a year get hit by a train in Flagstaff, most were people illegally crossing, or drunks on the tracks, but every once in awhile, someone got sucked in... 2/3 of downtown was on one side of the tracks, the rest on the other, and even waiting for a train  to go by, standing just outside the barrier, you could feel that shiat. It was actually pretty cool.
2014-04-16 01:59:01 PM
1 votes:
I hope the engineer didn't injured his ankle.
2014-04-16 01:58:57 PM
1 votes:

InterruptingQuirk: cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.

You read a lot into what I wrote there.


Obviously he's pro-trespass.
2014-04-16 01:57:03 PM
1 votes:
You got that on film? Your cell phone must be bulky.
2014-04-16 01:56:10 PM
1 votes:
My father was a train engineer so I am getting a kick out of these responses.

Even better, I bet the boots were steel-toed.
2014-04-16 01:54:54 PM
1 votes:

cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.


You read a lot into what I wrote there.
2014-04-16 01:53:26 PM
1 votes:
I can understand his gut reaction to kick the selfie guy in the head, not saying it was right.
2014-04-16 01:53:21 PM
1 votes:
2014-04-16 01:53:12 PM
1 votes:
Well, he didn't actually end up under the wheels, so suck shiat.
2014-04-16 01:52:52 PM
1 votes:
Good.
2014-04-16 01:51:19 PM
1 votes:

zarker: Do I smell a lawsuit?


Sure, though then he'll have to admit to his trespassing.
2014-04-16 01:51:05 PM
1 votes:
i.chzbgr.com
2014-04-16 01:49:42 PM
1 votes:
Do I smell a lawsuit?
 
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