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(Gawker)   Teenager decides to take a selfie next to an oncoming train. Train conductor decides to give him a reality check with his boot   (gawker.com) divider line 369
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2014-04-16 01:05:05 PM
Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.
 
2014-04-16 01:11:19 PM
Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.
 
2014-04-16 01:13:39 PM

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.
 
2014-04-16 01:30:29 PM

gilgigamesh:  he could have wound up under the wheels.


Which would teach him never to do it again, right?
 
2014-04-16 01:34:03 PM

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


It should be legal everywhere.
 
2014-04-16 01:34:24 PM
Was the conductor a student of Ti Kwan Leep?
 
2014-04-16 01:38:12 PM
Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.
 
2014-04-16 01:45:47 PM
One down, a shiatload left to go...
 
2014-04-16 01:48:12 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.


trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.
 
2014-04-16 01:49:42 PM
Do I smell a lawsuit?
 
2014-04-16 01:49:56 PM

edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.


Mythbusters busted that one.
 
2014-04-16 01:50:11 PM

cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.


You can hear the train blow its horn and somebody yelling at him and still the moran doesn't move. The conductor probably thought he was being helpful to someone too stupid or mentally disabled to get the fark out of the way.
 
2014-04-16 01:50:23 PM

real_headhoncho: Was the conductor a student of Ti Kwan Leep?


But I wanna beat people up right now!
 
2014-04-16 01:50:29 PM
Justice served. Too bad Darwin was robbed.
 
2014-04-16 01:51:00 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-16 01:51:05 PM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-04-16 01:51:19 PM

zarker: Do I smell a lawsuit?


Sure, though then he'll have to admit to his trespassing.
 
2014-04-16 01:51:31 PM
The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.

Plus, the kid is a weapons-grade douchebag who forfeited all his due process rights by standing there.  You jump the fence into the junkyard, you're welcoming Chopper to sic your balls.
 
2014-04-16 01:51:33 PM
Obviously the kid's an idiot:

Michael says in the video. "I think I got that on film!"

Stupid kid, cellphones don't use film.

Oh, and don't stand so close to a moving train.
 
2014-04-16 01:52:44 PM
While I don't normally encourage kicking morons in the head (too many legal issues), if I were asked to solve this my file would look a lot like this:

www.extmovie.com
 
2014-04-16 01:52:52 PM
Good.
 
2014-04-16 01:53:05 PM

gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.



Came for this^^^^^^^^^^
 
2014-04-16 01:53:12 PM
Well, he didn't actually end up under the wheels, so suck shiat.
 
2014-04-16 01:53:21 PM
 
2014-04-16 01:53:26 PM
I can understand his gut reaction to kick the selfie guy in the head, not saying it was right.
 
2014-04-16 01:54:16 PM
Nobody takes a selfie next to Shack's train
 
2014-04-16 01:54:42 PM
Nicely done, Mr. Engineer.
 
2014-04-16 01:54:54 PM

cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.


You read a lot into what I wrote there.
 
2014-04-16 01:56:10 PM
My father was a train engineer so I am getting a kick out of these responses.

Even better, I bet the boots were steel-toed.
 
2014-04-16 01:56:25 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.


It appears to be a VIA rail train, it's the right colours anyway.  They operate in Canada mostly.
 
2014-04-16 01:56:58 PM

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.
 
2014-04-16 01:57:03 PM
You got that on film? Your cell phone must be bulky.
 
2014-04-16 01:57:53 PM

zarker: Do I smell a lawsuit?


I'd be shocked if he didn't sue or at least try for a settlement.
 
2014-04-16 01:57:54 PM

cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.


Look at the bright side.  The kid got a much-deserved ass whooping.  Had he stayed in place without the kick, who knows, maybe he could have been injured anyway.
 
2014-04-16 01:58:10 PM
Only the most abject losers in a civilized society, will defend anyone putting themselves in Harm's Way, just to take a selfie.
 
2014-04-16 01:58:13 PM
So saving someone's life = good
Being aware for someone's well being by harming them a bit in comparison to their possible death = bad
 
2014-04-16 01:58:14 PM
Way to go Choo, Choo Charlie.
 
2014-04-16 01:58:27 PM

laughin: My father was a train engineer so I am getting a kick out of these responses.


But you're not even trespassing
 
2014-04-16 01:58:57 PM

InterruptingQuirk: cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.

You read a lot into what I wrote there.


Obviously he's pro-trespass.
 
2014-04-16 01:59:01 PM
I hope the engineer didn't injured his ankle.
 
2014-04-16 01:59:18 PM
i58.tinypic.com
 
2014-04-16 01:59:24 PM

gravy chugging cretin.: Nobody takes a selfie next to Shack's train


A-No.-1 approves of your post.  Cigaret lights a cigarette and salutes you.
 
2014-04-16 01:59:33 PM
cup of water would have worked
 
2014-04-16 02:00:07 PM

edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.


Yep... We had 3 or 4 people a year get hit by a train in Flagstaff, most were people illegally crossing, or drunks on the tracks, but every once in awhile, someone got sucked in... 2/3 of downtown was on one side of the tracks, the rest on the other, and even waiting for a train  to go by, standing just outside the barrier, you could feel that shiat. It was actually pretty cool.
 
2014-04-16 02:00:45 PM

Warthog: The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.

Plus, the kid is a weapons-grade douchebag who forfeited all his due process rights by standing there.  You jump the fence into the junkyard, you're welcoming Chopper to sic your balls.


Actually that sounds like a pretty good defense of the boot to the head.
 
2014-04-16 02:00:54 PM

Warthog: The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.


This is what I was thinking.
 
2014-04-16 02:00:56 PM
I would buy this engineer a beer if I could.  Too bad he only got him on the side of the head and not right in the face.
 
2014-04-16 02:01:16 PM

real_headhoncho: Was the conductor a student of Ti Kwan Leep?


I didn't click, but only because as soon as I read it, I heard the entire sketch in my head.

But yeah, the teen might be a doucheball, but wouldn't what the conductor did be considered battery?
 
2014-04-16 02:01:41 PM
Das boot to das ass
 
2014-04-16 02:01:51 PM

cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.


Maybe the engineer was trying to push the kid out of the way (for his own safety) and it ended up as a kick?
 
2014-04-16 02:02:25 PM
Nice! But very dangerous.

Better to have actually flicked a kick to his head so he falls away from the train. Or whipped his willy out and pissed on the guy's head.

I would have liked to have seen the later.

http://youtu.be/JaKo3g19E9Y
 
2014-04-16 02:02:37 PM
More of a quick caress than a kick.
 
2014-04-16 02:03:02 PM
He was pushing him out of the way of the train.
 
2014-04-16 02:03:06 PM
Where does on get cell-phone film processed, anyway?
 
2014-04-16 02:03:23 PM
That slow motion gif is priceless
 
2014-04-16 02:03:32 PM
The video on YouTube is titled "Kicked in the head by a train"

replygif.net
 
2014-04-16 02:03:41 PM
Err...,"one".
 
2014-04-16 02:04:14 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.


This so much this!!!!

Warthog: Plus, the kid is a weapons-grade douchebag who forfeited all his due process rights by standing there. You jump the fence into the junkyard, you're welcoming Chopper to sic your balls.


Also this!!! He was the idiot standing within kicking distance of the train...He's lucky he's not dead... and not as a result of the boot, but being hit by a part of a trailing car with a wider berth than the locomotive.
 
2014-04-16 02:04:21 PM

decloaked lurker: I'd be shocked if he didn't sue or at least try for a settlement.


This was my thought.  While I applaud the actions and method of the engineer, all I can see is the selfie taker suing the railway and the engineer for emotional distress caused by totally messing up his selfie.
 
2014-04-16 02:04:28 PM

cannotsuggestaname: trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter.


seaglassvillage.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-16 02:04:30 PM

RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.


If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?
 
2014-04-16 02:04:43 PM

Warthog: The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.

Plus, the kid is a weapons-grade douchebag who forfeited all his due process rights by standing there.  You jump the fence into the junkyard, you're welcoming Chopper to sic your balls.


This, this and this.

I'm also going with the conductor was trying to get him out of the way. Fwiw, the conductor was probably putting himself at risk as well. He had to get out of the cab, extend his foot out and try to hit a stationary object while probably going at least 30mph. If I tried that, I'd probably wind up under the train.
 
2014-04-16 02:04:44 PM

Red_Fox: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

It appears to be a VIA rail train, it's the right colours anyway.  They operate in Canada mostly.


Think about it, if the kid was Canadian he would have apologized for getting kicked in the head.
 
2014-04-16 02:04:51 PM
The kid was acting like an idiot (as teenagers are prone to do) but the conductor is a colossal prick.
 
2014-04-16 02:05:30 PM
As much as the kid may deserve it, conductor needs to be charge for attempted manslaughter!
 
2014-04-16 02:05:36 PM
meh, conductors used to use shotguns loaded with rock salt. A rubber boot to the melon ain't nothin' compared to a backside with salt buried a quarter inch in.
 
2014-04-16 02:06:10 PM

edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.


I've stood close to speeding trains and never got sucked under.  It's an old wives tale.
 
2014-04-16 02:06:25 PM
Engineers and bulls have a well developed hatred of gunsels and train fans. I've had them throw shiat at me from moving trains because I was standing on public property taking pictures. The fact that train fans are some of the biggest supporters of their dying industry doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. Train bulls are right up there with prison guards in the 'too dumb to be a cop but still craves the power' scale. The kid may have been wrong, but kicking him in the head was just being a douche.
 
2014-04-16 02:06:29 PM

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


You calling it "attempted murder" is equally rational.
 
2014-04-16 02:06:41 PM

jaybeezey: InterruptingQuirk: cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.

You read a lot into what I wrote there.

Obviously he's pro-trespass.


The movie was ok, but I wouldn't align myself with it.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-16 02:06:44 PM

wellreadneck: More of a quick caress than a kick.


No, this Is a caress.

That was a boot to the face.
 
2014-04-16 02:07:47 PM

buckler: Where does on get cell-phone film processed, anyway?


"I think I got it on flash memory!" doesn't roll off the tongue as smoothly.  That, and he's an idiot.
 
2014-04-16 02:08:02 PM
img.fark.net

He's kicking the duckface out of him.
 
2014-04-16 02:08:31 PM

BSABSVR: RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.

If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?


The leg attached to that boot probably absorbed more of the force than a wider train car that would have hit him would have. I can't see how anyone would conclude anything other than the boot was significantly less dangerous.
 
2014-04-16 02:09:39 PM
Both sides are bad so vote for the idiot kid who knows nothing about how big train cars are against the engineer who has to live with the results of accidents and suicides.
 
2014-04-16 02:10:01 PM
I'm all for breaking some rules to get a good pic.
I'm also for spur-of-the-moment assault on someone whose stupidy might have a great negative effect on your life.
 
2014-04-16 02:10:33 PM

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


Did the boot leave a mark on your face?
 
2014-04-16 02:10:34 PM
"Pardon me sir, is this the Chattanooga choo----OWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!"
 
2014-04-16 02:10:59 PM
Warthog: The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.

Even without any extra-wide protuberances on the train it's a dumb idea to stand that close to a moving train, the engineer may have been trying to push him a safe away. The kid is an idiot, but then that's what teenagers usually are, and the engineer may have been trying to protect him from himself.
 
2014-04-16 02:11:10 PM
The kid is lucky that the person wearing standard, relatively anonymous work boots accidentally slipped, yelled out in surprise, and pulled himself back to safety while accidentally hitting a kid in the head while said kid was taking a selfie, an act that was likely in violation of warning signs and as such provide some measure of protection from liability for the railway and the railway workers.
 
2014-04-16 02:11:45 PM

uber humper: meh, conductors used to use shotguns loaded with rock salt. A rubber boot to the melon ain't nothin' compared to a backside with salt buried a quarter inch in.


Rock salt doesn't shoot very well.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot33.htm
 
2014-04-16 02:11:52 PM
Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-16 02:12:14 PM
Train conducter saved the kid from the jagged piece of metal right behind his boot. I'd say he did the right thing.
 
2014-04-16 02:12:33 PM
It wasn't even a "kick". He hung his leg out there and let it slap dumbass in the head. If he was trying to injure the kid he could have hit him a lot harder.
 
2014-04-16 02:13:46 PM

gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

[i.imgur.com image 642x435]


Yeah, I could see that the engineer couldn't tell for sure if the metal would hit him or not and did the kid a favor just in case.
 
2014-04-16 02:13:52 PM

Brawndo: Warthog: The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.

Plus, the kid is a weapons-grade douchebag who forfeited all his due process rights by standing there.  You jump the fence into the junkyard, you're welcoming Chopper to sic your balls.

This, this and this.

I'm also going with the conductor was trying to get him out of the way. Fwiw, the conductor was probably putting himself at risk as well. He had to get out of the cab, extend his foot out and try to hit a stationary object while probably going at least 30mph. If I tried that, I'd probably wind up under the train.


There is no way that train is going 30 mph
 
2014-04-16 02:15:26 PM

KidneyStone: uber humper: meh, conductors used to use shotguns loaded with rock salt. A rubber boot to the melon ain't nothin' compared to a backside with salt buried a quarter inch in.

Rock salt doesn't shoot very well.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot33.htm


You do realize how close the conductor would have been to the kid right?

Hint: It's not going to be found on the first page
 
2014-04-16 02:15:27 PM
i171.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-16 02:15:35 PM

Gotfire: [img.fark.net image 635x322]

He's kicking the duckface out of him.


There's a photo that deserves to be a meme.
 
2014-04-16 02:17:24 PM
Did I miss the memo, or is everyone now taking selfies with video instead of snapshots?
 
2014-04-16 02:17:36 PM
Foot bone connected to the jaaaaw bone!
 
2014-04-16 02:17:38 PM
Nice kick (if it indeed was a real human in that boot) I'd by that engineer a beer.

GTFO the tracks, asshole.
 
2014-04-16 02:18:18 PM
Dear all the people who think the engineer was being a "douche" for "assaulting" that kid.

You are what is wrong with America.
 
2014-04-16 02:18:39 PM
www.kickinrad.tv
 
2014-04-16 02:19:33 PM

abhorrent1: edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.

Mythbusters busted that one.


IIRC, what they tested was if someone standing on a station platform could be sucked under a speeding train, which is slightly different from this situation.

Also IIRC, above a certain speed, Buster did get blown over, though not sucked under. It is at least conceivable that getting blown over while standing down low in the gravel could cause you to fall in towards the train where you will get hurt. Even if that's not the case, there is still a difference between a mannequin and a person: when blown over, Buster just topples. A human might try to protect his or herself from the fall by extending an arm into harm's way.

/Still one of my favourite tv shows
 
2014-04-16 02:20:50 PM

Superjew: Dear all the people who think the engineer was being a "douche" for "assaulting" that kid.

You are what is wrong with America.


Exactly. Sometimes a kid needs a wake-up call proportional to the stupidity they are engaged in.
 
2014-04-16 02:21:06 PM
Why don't they look.

/Hipster got lucky - don't turn your back on a passing train - esp that close.  Engineer/conductor has a case that he was pushing him outta the way.

//I agree, looked a bit like a VIA loco
 
2014-04-16 02:21:21 PM

BSABSVR: RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.

If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?


Setting aside the "sucking in" effect that others have mentioned, if you can't appreciate the difference between being struck by a rigid, sharp edged piece of metal, versus a boot that's on a human leg that has some give, then you shouldn't be trotting out "Physics, how does it work", because you don't understand the physics of energy transfer and impulse.
 
2014-04-16 02:22:29 PM
I am not convinced kid was taking a selfie since it was a video.

Even if he was, seems to me the train dude had his feet out and kid happened to be too close. I am not seeing anything that suggests TC delibaretly tried kicking the kid.
 
2014-04-16 02:23:13 PM

gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

[i.imgur.com image 642x435]


Holy Carp. The driver was trying to keep the kid from getting hit in the head by a hunk of metal. This wasn't a smack-down, the driver was saving the prat's life.
 
2014-04-16 02:23:15 PM

gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.


Family sue train dude in 3......2.........
 
2014-04-16 02:23:25 PM
That kid is a super idiot... he's also probably going to lawyer up and get a fat check from the train company.
 
2014-04-16 02:23:35 PM
There are heroes who run into burning buildings, heroes that jump in front of that bullet, others that dive into roiling sea. Then there are those who do their small, unsung part to amuse us all at the expense of a f*cktard.
 
2014-04-16 02:23:36 PM

real_headhoncho: Was the conductor a student of Ti Kwan Leep?


Thanks for posting that link. Seriously.
Stopped my day from going down the toilet.


/ You win many Internets
 
2014-04-16 02:23:36 PM

gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

[i.imgur.com image 642x435]


Yeah, that "douchebag" probably saved the kids life.
 
2014-04-16 02:23:46 PM
I am rooting for this video to go viral and then have it be the trend to punch or kick this kid in the head whenever he tries and takes a selfie.
 
2014-04-16 02:24:03 PM
Love the comment. If he was taking a selfie why is he being filmed ?
 
2014-04-16 02:24:05 PM

InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.


Does US law also allow you to kick trespassers in the head?

I thought not.
 
2014-04-16 02:24:20 PM

Gotfire: [img.fark.net image 635x322]

He's kicking the duckface out of him.


I'd say he kicked the duckface into him.
 
2014-04-16 02:25:37 PM

redsquid: The fact that train fans are some of the biggest supporters


What, are railfans are shipping stuff by the carload, now?

redsquid: of their dying industry


Where I live there are a LOT more freight trains passing through lately. A lot of it's crude oil on the way to the refinery and empty tank cars on the way back to North Dakota.
 
2014-04-16 02:26:11 PM

Superjew: Dear all the people who think the engineer was being a "douche" for "assaulting" that kid.

You are what is wrong with America.


Pretty much this.  Keyboard critics.

A kid standing that close to a freight train is basically standing in the middle of an interstate.  All to try to get a few likes on instagram or facebook.  Must've scared the shiat out of the engineer.
 
2014-04-16 02:26:40 PM

gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.


Yeah I thought the kick was a dick move at first no matter how much the kid deserved it, but seeing that it looks like it was potentiality the best outcome.
 
2014-04-16 02:27:04 PM
He's the wimp of Jenny and the wimp, right?
 
2014-04-16 02:27:10 PM
Notice the boot was black and the kid was white?

Fox News:  Knockout game - Train edition!
 
2014-04-16 02:27:31 PM

Warthog: The conductor was doing him a service.  That boot couldn't have extended out more than a foot or two from the edge of the train.  It's possible that cars coming up behind him had similar, harder protuberances, which might have seriously harmed him if he'd stayed in place.  That conductor actually saved his life.   Hero tag totally OK here.

Plus, the kid is a weapons-grade douchebag who forfeited all his due process rights by standing there.  You jump the fence into the junkyard, you're welcoming Chopper to sic your balls.


This.
 
2014-04-16 02:27:31 PM

BSABSVR: If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?


Well a foot-leg combination often has much more "give" and a much larger contact area than a steel train protuberance.

That's how physics works.
 
2014-04-16 02:28:01 PM

SpectroBoy: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

Does US law also allow you to kick trespassers in the head?

I thought not.


Sadly the law has overlooked our joy once again.
 
2014-04-16 02:29:31 PM

img.fark.net


Sweep the head


img.fark.net

 
2014-04-16 02:29:32 PM

LeroyBourne: I can understand his gut reaction to kick the selfie guy in the head, not saying it was right.


I'm going to go with, perhaps the conductor was simply trying to nudge him away from the train for his own safety.  But, being on a moveing train, he hit him harder than expected.
 
2014-04-16 02:29:34 PM

SpectroBoy: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

Does US law also allow you to kick trespassers in the head?

I thought not.


It obligates you to notify the trespasser of known dangers and attempt to minimize the harm to the trespasser from those dangers.  Which the engineer did, by blasting the train horn, then yelling, and when that failed, nudging the kid aside with his boot.
 
2014-04-16 02:31:18 PM

FLMountainMan: It obligates you to notify the trespasser of known dangers and attempt to minimize the harm to the trespasser from those dangers.  Which the engineer did, by blasting the train horn, then yelling, and when that failed, nudging the kid aside with his boot.


Your honor, the defendant was merely delivering a "freedom nudge". It would be prejudicial to call it a well-deserved swift kick to the head.
 
2014-04-16 02:34:06 PM
I think the conductor did us all a terrible injustice by pushing that narcissistic douche out of the way of danger
 
2014-04-16 02:34:17 PM
I understand the people arguing that the train conductor was wrong to kick him, but inclined to think the kid was probably in more danger from the rest of the train. It might be the conductor was going to try and push him from behind, away from the train, but misjudged just how close the kid was.

The train can't stop. If the conductor does nothing, that kid might be dead.

The conductor yelled, but the kid is wearing headphones and acting like he doesn't give two shiats the train is going by. At that point... what do YOU do? Let him get killed by the flatbed car three links down that protrudes an extra foot more than the locomotive?

That's what it boils down to... if it is YOU, you can't stop the train in time to save him, so what do YOU do? I'd say he used the least amount of force to save the guy's life.

Of course, we will always have Farkers who will shout "battery!" when a transit worker shoves a potential victim out of the way of an incoming subway train or other similar situation, I guess.
 
2014-04-16 02:34:22 PM

jst3p: Sweep the head


This made me giggle a lot more than it should have.
 
2014-04-16 02:34:39 PM
Was always told to stay off the ballast/subballast (the rocks under the tracks) by a relative who worked on trains. One of the reason I remember was  because the metal cargo tie downs (the same type used to secure pallets of wood) that are used on some cars will occasionally snap and drag along side of the railcars.  Supposedly acts like a razor blade.  Never seen one dragging on a passing train, but I can see how that would happen.
 
2014-04-16 02:34:39 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-16 02:34:44 PM

picturescrazy: gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

Yeah I thought the kick was a dick move at first no matter how much the kid deserved it, but seeing that it looks like it was potentiality the best outcome.


Ditto. It doesn't look like the engineer could have possibly caught the kid on a forward swing of the leg- more like the guy was aware of that hunk of metal and stuck his foot in front of it to protect him.

I wouldn't be shocked if the engineer at least had a bruise from that metal loop... he could have broken his ankle trying to save that stupid shiat of a teenager.
 
2014-04-16 02:34:46 PM

SpectroBoy: FLMountainMan: It obligates you to notify the trespasser of known dangers and attempt to minimize the harm to the trespasser from those dangers.  Which the engineer did, by blasting the train horn, then yelling, and when that failed, nudging the kid aside with his boot.

Your honor, the defendant was merely delivering a "freedom nudge". It would be prejudicial to call it a well-deserved swift kick to the head.


I resent the categorization of the nudge as a kick.  A kick entails forward movement of the leg.  As the video clearly indicates, the engineer's leg was stationary, cushioning the wayward youth's skull from the metal protuberance.  Additionally, as you'll see in the counterclaim, the engineer suffered severe bruising to his left leg, hindering his ability to work and provide for his wife and the four Botswana orphans they've adopted.  Additionally, he has developed post-traumatic stress disorder as a result of the dangerous situation the youth created.
 
2014-04-16 02:35:02 PM
That's a teenager? Seems a little too Dylan McKay...
 
2014-04-16 02:35:18 PM
FALCOOOON KICK!
img3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-04-16 02:35:52 PM
I bet train conductors see people do this kind of stupid shiat all the time.

uber humper: meh, conductors used to use shotguns loaded with rock salt. A rubber boot to the melon ain't nothin' compared to a backside with salt buried a quarter inch in.


Sounds like they still need them.

CSB - I work on a system to do automated track inspection - it's a fancy new Italian-made locomotive. We took it out on one of its first runs, and we saw a whole lot of trainspotters. They were waiting in strategic positions to get good shots of the train. One guy ran from one end of a train platform to the other in order to snap a photo of it.
I didn't realize trainspotting was so popular.
 
2014-04-16 02:35:59 PM

RRicochet: Justice served. Too bad Darwin was robbed.


Don't worry, I'm sure it will be just a matter of time.
 
2014-04-16 02:36:30 PM
Could have ruined his selfie even better:
assets-s3.usmagazine.com
 
2014-04-16 02:36:33 PM

LeroyBourne: I can understand his gut reaction to kick the selfie guy in the head, not saying it was right.


3i26kd3p1usa3cefqi1ay96t13o6.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com

Approves
 
2014-04-16 02:38:20 PM

cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.


Horsepuckey, the engineer was just standing his ground...
 
2014-04-16 02:38:34 PM

Red_Fox: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

It appears to be a VIA rail train, it's the right colours anyway.  They operate in Canada mostly.


I was thinking Canada as well without knowing anything about the train. The teen just seems too happy in the aftermath to be part of our American population.

This is what I expect from an American at a minimum
 
2014-04-16 02:39:10 PM
I'm wondering if he wasn't trying to kick him clear.  Being that close to varying width cars, something could easily have hit him.

/still like to think he was just trying to kick some sense into him.
 
2014-04-16 02:39:27 PM
The many faces of Jared Michael

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2014-04-16 02:39:41 PM

spamdog: I bet train conductors see people do this kind of stupid shiat all the time.

uber humper: meh, conductors used to use shotguns loaded with rock salt. A rubber boot to the melon ain't nothin' compared to a backside with salt buried a quarter inch in.

Sounds like they still need them.

CSB - I work on a system to do automated track inspection - it's a fancy new Italian-made locomotive. We took it out on one of its first runs, and we saw a whole lot of trainspotters. They were waiting in strategic positions to get good shots of the train. One guy ran from one end of a train platform to the other in order to snap a photo of it.
I didn't realize trainspotting was so popular.


Trainspotting made a world wide gross of $72 million. I'd say that's pretty popular.
 
2014-04-16 02:39:57 PM

RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.


Would you say he was in a zone of danger?
 
2014-04-16 02:40:04 PM

Tenatra: This is what I expect from an American at a minimum


fail - img too large. http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2363368/burn-after-readind-punch-o.g i f
 
2014-04-16 02:40:38 PM
Boot to the head!
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-16 02:41:01 PM

gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

[i.imgur.com image 642x435]


I believe the defense rests.  Case dismissed.

BTW, railroads have weird domain and other arcane legal chicanery available to them.  For instance, did you know, if worked on a train, (until 1963), you got a special social security number?

700-728 - Railroad Board**
http://www.ssa.gov/employer/stateweb.htm
 
2014-04-16 02:41:11 PM

SpectroBoy: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

Does US law also allow you to kick trespassers in the head?

I thought not.


This is Florida my man.  The law lets us shoot trespassers in the face if we feel threatened.
 
2014-04-16 02:41:45 PM
Based on the photos I'd be curious to see how much damage the back of the conductor's leg took from acting as a buffer between those steel edges and that kid's head.
 
2014-04-16 02:42:06 PM
img.fark.net

Seems like a weird place to have a protruding piece of metal, right at the top of the step ladder...
 
2014-04-16 02:43:19 PM

durbnpoisn: 'm going to go with, perhaps the conductor was simply trying to nudge him away from the train for his own safety.  But, being on a moveing train, he hit him harder than expected.


I'm going to go with, if you're close enough to a moving train to be touched by the engineer in any fashion, you are too goddamned close and deserve to be kicked in the head.
 
2014-04-16 02:44:17 PM

spexandwally: RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.

Would you say he was in a zone of danger?


Possibly too large, link here:

derpicdn.net
 
2014-04-16 02:44:17 PM

SpectroBoy: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

Does US law also allow you to kick trespassers in the head?


No, but estate law does.

/And one more for Jenny and the whimp.
 
2014-04-16 02:44:33 PM

BSABSVR: RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.

If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?


Whole lot more flex in a human leg and boot than a piece of steel. Perhaps you should learn more physics? You can watch the conductors foot move in relation to the train thereby mitigating the impact in a way that a metal protuberance would not.

This is why you want to hit your airbag, not the steering wheel in a car crash.
 
2014-04-16 02:44:36 PM
That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.
 
2014-04-16 02:45:15 PM
...aaaand totally staged.
 
2014-04-16 02:45:31 PM
Anyone who thinks this was wrong is pro-snowflake
 
2014-04-16 02:45:52 PM

SuperNinjaToad: As much as the kid may deserve it, conductor needs to be charge for attempted manslaughter!


Conductor should be commended for taking the only action available that he could to get this moron away from a speeding train.
 
2014-04-16 02:45:54 PM

KidneyStone: uber humper: meh, conductors used to use shotguns loaded with rock salt. A rubber boot to the melon ain't nothin' compared to a backside with salt buried a quarter inch in.

Rock salt doesn't shoot very well.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot33.htm


That's interesting, thanks. It was just a story adults told us to keep us away from the trains.

spamdog: I bet train conductors see people do this kind of stupid shiat all the time.

uber humper: meh, conductors used to use shotguns loaded with rock salt. A rubber boot to the melon ain't nothin' compared to a backside with salt buried a quarter inch in.

Sounds like they still need them.

CSB - I work on a system to do automated track inspection - it's a fancy new Italian-made locomotive. We took it out on one of its first runs, and we saw a whole lot of trainspotters. They were waiting in strategic positions to get good shots of the train. One guy ran from one end of a train platform to the other in order to snap a photo of it.
I didn't realize trainspotting was so popular.


HOw would they even know about it? Is there a Train Monthly magazine? I guess if it was in a small town, the local paper may have carried it
 
2014-04-16 02:46:14 PM

spamdog: CSB - I work on a system to do automated track inspection - it's a fancy new Italian-made locomotive. We took it out on one of its first runs, and we saw a whole lot of trainspotters. They were waiting in strategic positions to get good shots of the train. One guy ran from one end of a train platform to the other in order to snap a photo of it.
I didn't realize trainspotting was so popular.


How did you start working the rails and not learn about railfans? They are some of the silliest fans out there. They even acknowledge it in their models

www.actionroad.net
 
2014-04-16 02:46:25 PM

abhorrent1: edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.

Mythbusters busted that one.


They were able to determine that a blow to the head resulting in unconsciousness could not result in you falling in a particular direction?
 
2014-04-16 02:47:39 PM

spamdog: I bet train conductors see people do this kind of stupid shiat all the time.

uber humper: meh, conductors used to use shotguns loaded with rock salt. A rubber boot to the melon ain't nothin' compared to a backside with salt buried a quarter inch in.

Sounds like they still need them.

CSB - I work on a system to do automated track inspection - it's a fancy new Italian-made locomotive. We took it out on one of its first runs, and we saw a whole lot of trainspotters. They were waiting in strategic positions to get good shots of the train. One guy ran from one end of a train platform to the other in order to snap a photo of it.
I didn't realize trainspotting was so popular.


People like watching movies about crime and heroin addiction for some reason.
 
2014-04-16 02:48:34 PM
That kid got some....

Safety Training


YEEEEEEEAAAAAAH!
 
2014-04-16 02:49:24 PM
Dumbwad is lucky it was just a boot and not a red-hot, ten pound brake pad whizzing toward his stupid head at over 60 mph.
/Once saw a deer EXPLODE
 
2014-04-16 02:49:24 PM
uber humper: HOw would they even know about it? Is there a Train Monthly magazine? I guess if it was in a small town, the local paper may have carried it

Rail traffic radio scanners, they listen to it all day, and they network to let everybody else know what's coming down the line.
 
2014-04-16 02:50:01 PM
What a pain train might look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc11tskjEGs
 
2014-04-16 02:51:40 PM

redsquid: Engineers and bulls have a well developed hatred of gunsels and train fans. I've had them throw shiat at me from moving trains because I was standing on public property taking pictures. The fact that train fans are some of the biggest supporters of their dying industry doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. Train bulls are right up there with prison guards in the 'too dumb to be a cop but still craves the power' scale. The kid may have been wrong, but kicking him in the head was just being a douche.


Dying industry?
Railroad freight revenue was 4.1 Billlllion dollars in 2009. In 2011, it was 65 billion.
And now they're hauling a shiat-ton of oil.
So yeah, it's totally a dying industry.
 
2014-04-16 02:52:50 PM
Damn kids these days!!!

www.wearysloth.com
 
2014-04-16 02:53:24 PM

BSABSVR: If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?


A rubber-soled boot attached to a flexible leg is a hell of a lot safer than a thin rigid piece of metal hitting his neck at a relatively high speed. One ends with a sore head, the other often ends with no head.
 
2014-04-16 02:53:31 PM
Heh. You made the front page, dumbass.

i92.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-16 02:54:22 PM
Best. Photobomb. Ever,
 
2014-04-16 02:56:01 PM

gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.


My thought would have been, and is, a broken neck.
 
2014-04-16 02:56:47 PM

RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.


If you watch it again, you see that the top of the foot is in front of the kid's neck, which means it could just as easily have hooked him back in to the wheels.  Stupid, stupid, stupid, and if I was that kid's dad, I'd be shopping lawyers right now.  (the kid would still be grounded, though.) There's no good justification for this action.
 
2014-04-16 02:58:02 PM
Damn, now that I know he was trying to save this idiot's life, I actually dislike him.  I rescind my offer of a free beer.
 
2014-04-16 02:58:16 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: Damn kids these days!!!

[www.wearysloth.com image 320x240]


Dammit
/shakes tiny internet bindle
 
2014-04-16 02:59:52 PM

uber humper: HOw would they even know about it? Is there a Train Monthly magazine? I guess if it was in a small town, the local paper may have carried it


Not entirely sure - there may have been some press about it's maiden voyage, or someone spoke to a worker in the plant, or used social engineering to find out about it.
The train is also visible within the plant.

InterruptingQuirk: How did you start working the rails and not learn about railfans? They are some of the silliest fans out there. They even acknowledge it in their models


That is great! I'm actually a software developer, so I'm unfamiliar with the industry.
I thought railfans were a myth like Bigfoot.
 
2014-04-16 03:00:20 PM
I kicked you in the head to keep you from getting hurt.
 
2014-04-16 03:01:32 PM

spamdog: InterruptingQuirk: How did you start working the rails and not learn about railfans? They are some of the silliest fans out there. They even acknowledge it in their models

That is great! I'm actually a software developer, so I'm unfamiliar with the industry.
I thought railfans were a myth like Bigfoot.


Why are you calling a myth real? Does not computer
 
2014-04-16 03:01:55 PM

CruJones: Anyone who thinks this was wrong is pro-snowflake


Anyone who applies such labels with a broad brush is an idiot, too...
 
2014-04-16 03:02:43 PM

rwhamann: and if I was that kid's dad, I'd be shopping lawyers right now.


I think more dads would be shopping an additional boot to their kid's head when they saw the video.
 
2014-04-16 03:02:58 PM

BillDozer357: Seems like a weird place to have a protruding piece of metal, right at the top of the step ladder...


Yeah, I'm sure the folks who designed, approved and built the thing put it there arbitrarily.
 
2014-04-16 03:03:06 PM

gas giant: Dumbwad is lucky it was just a boot and not a red-hot, ten pound brake pad whizzing toward his stupid head at over 60 mph.
/Once saw a deer EXPLODE


So you're saying that there are locomotives that are unsafe and need to be taken out of service?
 
2014-04-16 03:03:21 PM

cgraves67: Nicely done, Mr. Engineer.


textimages.us
 
2014-04-16 03:03:23 PM
I've noticed in this thread some are calling the kicker "the engineer" while others "the conductor". I was probably the conductor.

In current North American trains the engineer drives the train and is the top paid job while the conductor is second in charge and is responsible for everything else (including supervising the rest of the train crew if it exists - freight trains may be crewed by just an engineer and a conductor). This notion of conductor is not to be confused with "ticket taker" on a passenger train.

... conductors duties include: ...  Be alert to wayside signals, switch position, and other conditions that affect safe train movement

The engineer probably stayed at the controls while the conductor went out to address the safety issue, though if there was lesser other crew on board then one of them might have been sent out.
 
2014-04-16 03:04:12 PM
Safe or not, I was amused.
 
2014-04-16 03:04:14 PM

Maud Dib: redsquid: Engineers and bulls have a well developed hatred of gunsels and train fans. I've had them throw shiat at me from moving trains because I was standing on public property taking pictures. The fact that train fans are some of the biggest supporters of their dying industry doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. Train bulls are right up there with prison guards in the 'too dumb to be a cop but still craves the power' scale. The kid may have been wrong, but kicking him in the head was just being a douche.

Dying industry?
Railroad freight revenue was 4.1 Billlllion dollars in 2009. In 2011, it was 65 billion.
And now they're hauling a shiat-ton of oil.
So yeah, it's totally a dying industry.


It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land.  About 3 cents per ton per mile.  Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

chart.apis.google.com
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html
 
2014-04-16 03:05:14 PM

HairBolus: I've noticed in this thread some are calling the kicker "the engineer" while others "the conductor". I was probably the conductor.

In current North American trains the engineer drives the train and is the top paid job while the conductor is second in charge and is responsible for everything else (including supervising the rest of the train crew if it exists - freight trains may be crewed by just an engineer and a conductor). This notion of conductor is not to be confused with "ticket taker" on a passenger train.

... conductors duties include: ...  Be alert to wayside signals, switch position, and other conditions that affect safe train movement

The engineer probably stayed at the controls while the conductor went out to address the safety issue, though if there was lesser other crew on board then one of them might have been sent out.



I'm kinda hoping that once they got back to the yard, the conductor's duties included painting a little boot on the side of the engine.
 
2014-04-16 03:05:58 PM

redsquid: Engineers and bulls have a well developed hatred of gunsels and train fans. I've had them throw shiat at me from moving trains because I was standing on public property taking pictures. The fact that train fans are some of the biggest supporters of their dying industry doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. Train bulls are right up there with prison guards in the 'too dumb to be a cop but still craves the power' scale. The kid may have been wrong, but kicking him in the head was just being a douche.


Do tell. Just what do you know about train bulls and prison guards?

Please site specific examples and your Prisoner Identification number, as well as the facility you served time at.
 
2014-04-16 03:07:11 PM

The Lone Gunman: But yeah, the teen might be a doucheball, but wouldn't what the conductor did be considered battery?


I once saw an old lady start crossing the road in front of a tractor trailer that was too close to stop. I wanted to drag her back out of the road, but I decided not to since she might fall and bruise herself, and that would be battery. So instead of making myself a criminal for assaulting an old lady, I tried to make myself a Fark hero by pulling out my cell phone.

/It didn't turn out well, a flying leg knocked the cell phone out of my hand, and by the time I recovered the phone and cleaned off the lens the buzzards were already gathering around, so I just went home and let nature handle the cleanup.
//Hey, don't judge me. She was old, and her family got their inheritance before she blew it all on the lottery, so that's a win/win, right?
 
2014-04-16 03:08:48 PM

Shmeat: The video on YouTube is titled "Kicked in the head by a train"

[replygif.net image 400x271]


Maybe he meant "by" as in "next to"
 
2014-04-16 03:08:48 PM

KidneyStone: edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.

I've stood close to speeding trains and never got sucked under.  It's an old wives tale.


I knew somebody that died a few years ago while walking along the tracks and thinking there was enough distance between him and the train coming up behind him.
Nope.
Kid deserved a boot to the head, should apologize to the conductor and do community service or be punished somehow, but he'll probably try to sue instead of taking responsibility for his own actions.
 
2014-04-16 03:08:52 PM
uber humper:
[chart.apis.google.com image 500x200]
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html



Argh. That chart.  Is that  3 cents or .03 cents?   $.03  or $.0003 ?

furthermore - what the hell is "$10 bucks"  Ten dollar bucks? What the fark is a dollar buck?  Writing means things!
 
2014-04-16 03:09:59 PM

decloaked lurker: spamdog: I bet train conductors see people do this kind of stupid shiat all the time.

uber humper: meh, conductors used to use shotguns loaded with rock salt. A rubber boot to the melon ain't nothin' compared to a backside with salt buried a quarter inch in.

Sounds like they still need them.

CSB - I work on a system to do automated track inspection - it's a fancy new Italian-made locomotive. We took it out on one of its first runs, and we saw a whole lot of trainspotters. They were waiting in strategic positions to get good shots of the train. One guy ran from one end of a train platform to the other in order to snap a photo of it.
I didn't realize trainspotting was so popular.

Trainspotting made a world wide gross of $72 million. I'd say that's pretty popular.


It's a known movie.  $72 mil WWG isn't going to set anybody on fire though.    583 movies have grossed $100,000,000 in the U.S. alone...  http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/100million.php
 
2014-04-16 03:12:32 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: Damn kids these days!!!

[www.wearysloth.com image 320x240]


I watched that movie last week.  It was A No 1.
 
2014-04-16 03:13:20 PM
I don't care what the rest of you doorknobs say, the guy did the right thing with his boot.  That piece of metal right behind his foot could have caught in that kid's skull and dragged him along under the train.  He saved his life, and got to boot a doush in the head.  He deserves a beer and we should all chip in to get him one... or several.
 
2014-04-16 03:13:53 PM

gunther_bumpass: uber humper:
[chart.apis.google.com image 500x200]
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html


Argh. That chart.  Is that  3 cents or .03 cents?   $.03  or $.0003 ?

furthermore - what the hell is "$10 bucks"  Ten dollar bucks? What the fark is a dollar buck?  Writing means things!


Haha

The link is a little better

It's three cents. 3/100th of a dollar. 30/1000ths of a saw buck. 300/10000 of a c-note
 
2014-04-16 03:14:20 PM

zixr: Did I miss the memo, or is everyone now taking selfies with video instead of snapshots?


I was starting to think I was the only one wondering this.
 
2014-04-16 03:14:21 PM

uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land.  About 3 cents per ton per mile.  Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while


This.  As the cost of oil keeps going up, reaching prohibitively expensive levels, rail will come back into the forefront of moving things from place to place, instead of hugely inefficient trucks.

A smart man looking for a long term investment would put some money into rail companies.


Also, as those pictures show that everyone is posting, this engineer was a farking hero that saved that kids life by protecting him from that metal protrusion on the train,  not a douchebag.
 
2014-04-16 03:15:31 PM

AndreMA: That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.


If you get the opportunity, you should probably kill yourself.
 
2014-04-16 03:16:50 PM

OddLlama: zixr: Did I miss the memo, or is everyone now taking selfies with video instead of snapshots?

I was starting to think I was the only one wondering this.


Vine with its six second video clips is to blame.
 
2014-04-16 03:16:55 PM
could have been worse:

 "The train had knocked Ray Brower out of his Keds the same way it had knocked the life out of his body. "
 
2014-04-16 03:16:57 PM

uber humper: gunther_bumpass: uber humper:
[chart.apis.google.com image 500x200]
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html


Argh. That chart.  Is that  3 cents or .03 cents?   $.03  or $.0003 ?

furthermore - what the hell is "$10 bucks"  Ten dollar bucks? What the fark is a dollar buck?  Writing means things!

Haha

The link is a little better

It's three cents. 3/100th of a dollar. 30/1000ths of a saw buck. 300/10000 of a c-note


Ah. ok. It's just that the chart is a little unclear.  flat out wrong, actually.  Thank you!

Now I want to ship some heavy shiat by rail.
 
2014-04-16 03:17:05 PM

SpectroBoy: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

Does US law also allow you to kick trespassers in the head?

I thought not.


No, we don't let them get that close, we'll just shoot them - and in most cases, it's legal.

I also wanted to add. You can hear the air horn AND the engineer yelling "HEY!" at the top of his lungs - the kid doesn't even react, probably because of his headphones is my guess. This is his face while the horn is going off, and he doesn't turn his head to the yell - these are signs he hears NOTHING.

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-16 03:19:25 PM
I'm going with "the engineer is a douche" here.  Why the fark didn't he just swerve a few feet to the right if he was so concerned about the kid?
 
2014-04-16 03:20:20 PM

FLMountainMan: AndreMA: That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.

If you get the opportunity, you should probably kill yourself.


If only we could think of a way he might do that...
 
2014-04-16 03:21:49 PM
img.fark.net

He's a little cross-eyed. Probably even more so now. This is good, it alerts others to his stupidity.
 
2014-04-16 03:23:59 PM

gopher321: [i58.tinypic.com image 220x221]


Ed Gruberman unavailable for comment....
 
2014-04-16 03:25:17 PM

Alonjar: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land.  About 3 cents per ton per mile.  Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

This.  As the cost of oil keeps going up, reaching prohibitively expensive levels, rail will come back into the forefront of moving things from place to place, instead of hugely inefficient trucks.

A smart man looking for a long term investment would put some money into rail companies.


Also, as those pictures show that everyone is posting, this engineer was a farking hero that saved that kids life by protecting him from that metal protrusion on the train,  not a douchebag.


The one problem being that we built up a lot of residential and commercial properties in the last ~50 years without setting aside any right-of-ways for new rail lines.
 
2014-04-16 03:26:49 PM

FLMountainMan: AndreMA: That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.

If you get the opportunity, you should probably kill yourself.



i1.ytimg.com

I just finished that series, really good until the last 5 minutes of the last episode.
 
2014-04-16 03:27:22 PM

gunther_bumpass: uber humper:
[chart.apis.google.com image 500x200]
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html


Argh. That chart.  Is that  3 cents or .03 cents?   $.03  or $.0003 ?

furthermore - what the hell is "$10 bucks"  Ten dollar bucks? What the fark is a dollar buck?  Writing means things!


I'm not that other guy who wrote that post or made the chart but that is literally .03 cents per ton, per mile. Ridiculously cheaper than truck/air but transit time is far greater. Rail usually clocks in between .025 and .04 cents per mile depending on fuel and container availability. I don't know offhand if those figures include bulk cars like liquid/grain cars/hoppers and not just rail containers. Those figures are quoted all of the time in logistics though, usually by a salesman trying to get your shipping department to move things rail.

/works driving a desk in logistics so I'm getting a kick etc.
 
2014-04-16 03:27:40 PM

Zul the Magnificent: I'm going with "the engineer is a douche" here.  Why the fark didn't he just swerve a few feet to the right if he was so concerned about the kid?


img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com
 
2014-04-16 03:28:52 PM
One night, my girlfriend of the time and I were on the way to my local watering hole.  We were stop for a approaching train, about 5 cars from the gates.  A car pull out of line behind us and proceeds to drive around the gates.  My girlfriend said, "He's not going to make it!' and I said, "No, I think he across."  As usual, I was wrong.  The freight train, horn blaring and brakes screeching, comes flying through and seemed to clip the car, because the beam from the headlights went spinning through the trees.  I did a u-turn and took another route the bar.  When we got there,I told my friend what I had witnessed. One guys father was a train engineer, and he said his father told about one incident, where the same thing I saw happened. He said the train crew ran back to the busted up car and found the driver standing there unhurt, so they promptly began to beat the shiat out of him.
 
2014-04-16 03:30:18 PM

SharkaPult: gunther_bumpass: uber humper:
[chart.apis.google.com image 500x200]
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html


Argh. That chart.  Is that  3 cents or .03 cents?   $.03  or $.0003 ?

furthermore - what the hell is "$10 bucks"  Ten dollar bucks? What the fark is a dollar buck?  Writing means things!

I'm not that other guy who wrote that post or made the chart but that is literally .03 cents per ton, per mile. Ridiculously cheaper than truck/air but transit time is far greater. Rail usually clocks in between .025 and .04 cents per mile depending on fuel and container availability. I don't know offhand if those figures include bulk cars like liquid/grain cars/hoppers and not just rail containers. Those figures are quoted all of the time in logistics though, usually by a salesman trying to get your shipping department to move things rail.

/works driving a desk in logistics so I'm getting a kick etc.


OK. THAT makes even more cents. (get it?)

Thank you for the reclarification of the clarification. Words mean things!
 
2014-04-16 03:33:22 PM

SharkaPult: gunther_bumpass: uber humper:
[chart.apis.google.com image 500x200]
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html


Argh. That chart.  Is that  3 cents or .03 cents?   $.03  or $.0003 ?

furthermore - what the hell is "$10 bucks"  Ten dollar bucks? What the fark is a dollar buck?  Writing means things!

I'm not that other guy who wrote that post or made the chart but that is actually.03  dollars per ton, per mile. Ridiculously cheaper than truck/air but transit time is far greater. Rail usually clocks in between .025 and .04 dollars per mile depending on fuel and container availability. I don't know offhand if those figures include bulk cars like liquid/grain cars/hoppers and not just rail containers. Those figures are quoted all of the time in logistics though, usually by a salesman trying to get your shipping department to move things rail.

/works driving a desk in logistics so I'm getting a kick etc.



FTFM
regularly prices things as .46 cpm @ work and its really supposed to be .46 dollars but everyone just understands what I mean somehow.
 
2014-04-16 03:33:39 PM
The shiatty part about this is that the kid probably will get a big payout, despite the train driver trying to save his life. Had the driver let him die, then there wouldn't be a lawsuit.

But in the end, it's the driver who has to live with himself.

Also, this thread needs more hyperbole. Back to the murder comments.
 
2014-04-16 03:34:38 PM

SharkaPult: SharkaPult: gunther_bumpass: uber humper:
[chart.apis.google.com image 500x200]
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html


Argh. That chart.  Is that  3 cents or .03 cents?   $.03  or $.0003 ?

furthermore - what the hell is "$10 bucks"  Ten dollar bucks? What the fark is a dollar buck?  Writing means things!

I'm not that other guy who wrote that post or made the chart but that is actually.03  dollars per ton, per mile. Ridiculously cheaper than truck/air but transit time is far greater. Rail usually clocks in between .025 and .04 dollars per mile depending on fuel and container availability. I don't know offhand if those figures include bulk cars like liquid/grain cars/hoppers and not just rail containers. Those figures are quoted all of the time in logistics though, usually by a salesman trying to get your shipping department to move things rail.

/works driving a desk in logistics so I'm getting a kick etc.


FTFM
regularly prices things as .46 cpm @ work and its really supposed to be .46 dollars but everyone just understands what I mean somehow.


GOD DAMN IT!!!
 
2014-04-16 03:35:36 PM

Alonjar: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land.  About 3 cents per ton per mile.  Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

This.  As the cost of oil keeps going up, reaching prohibitively expensive levels, rail will come back into the forefront of moving things from place to place, instead of hugely inefficient trucks.

A smart man looking for a long term investment would put some money into rail companies.


Warren Buffett is a little over 4 years ahead of you.
 
2014-04-16 03:37:02 PM

cryinoutloud: [img.fark.net image 448x269]

He's a little cross-eyed. Probably even more so now. This is good, it alerts others to his stupidity.


i406.photobucket.com

Falls down a well his eyes get crossed, gets kicked in the head by a train they go back....you tell me.
 
2014-04-16 03:38:49 PM
Wow, that completely made my day!
 
2014-04-16 03:38:59 PM

SpectroBoy: Your honor, the defendant was merely delivering a "freedom nudge". It would be prejudicial to call it a well-deserved swift kick to the head.


He got a level-shot boot to the head by someone on a moving train, and yet didn't even fall over or wince.  That was a soft-contact hit, not a "swift kick" by any means.  I get swift kicks to the face from bare-footed toddlers all the time and those hurt.  If that engineer was trying to "swift kick" him, he'd have been on his ass writhing in pain.

The kid won't sue because the evidence that he was placing himself in a trespassing situation and deliberately endangering himself at the liability of the railroad would sink any case possible.
 
2014-04-16 03:39:19 PM

Zul the Magnificent: I'm going with "the engineer is a douche" here.  Why the fark didn't he just swerve a few feet to the right if he was so concerned about the kid?


Made me snort.
 
2014-04-16 03:39:56 PM
Since no one else has, I'm going to call fake. (And gay, of course)

Fake because idiot kid shot video and gay because internet.
 
2014-04-16 03:40:08 PM

FLMountainMan: AndreMA: That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.

If you get the opportunity, you should probably kill yourself.


That's harsh.
 
2014-04-16 03:40:40 PM
I"m gonna decline to hero-ize the conductor, but if the conductor of a train is close enough to touch you as the train passes, you're TOO farkING CLOSE TO THE TRAIN, ASSHOLE.
 
2014-04-16 03:42:29 PM

gunther_bumpass: SharkaPult: SharkaPult: gunther_bumpass: uber humper:
[chart.apis.google.com image 500x200]
 http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publicatio ns/ national_transportation_statistics/html/table_03_21.html


Argh. That chart.  Is that  3 cents or .03 cents?   $.03  or $.0003 ?

furthermore - what the hell is "$10 bucks"  Ten dollar bucks? What the fark is a dollar buck?  Writing means things!

I'm not that other guy who wrote that post or made the chart but that is actually.03  dollars per ton, per mile. Ridiculously cheaper than truck/air but transit time is far greater. Rail usually clocks in between .025 and .04 dollars per mile depending on fuel and container availability. I don't know offhand if those figures include bulk cars like liquid/grain cars/hoppers and not just rail containers. Those figures are quoted all of the time in logistics though, usually by a salesman trying to get your shipping department to move things rail.

/works driving a desk in logistics so I'm getting a kick etc.


FTFM
regularly prices things as .46 cpm @ work and its really supposed to be .46 dollars but everyone just understands what I mean somehow.

GOD DAMN IT!!!


It just converts to 3 cents per mile like Uber said, its just written stupidly on the graph. It is unfortunately a common logistics industry practice is to write things in .XX cents per mile when really its just XX cents per mile and should be written .XX Dollars per mile. At least at the companies I worked for/vendors I've priced for.
 
2014-04-16 03:43:07 PM

zimbomba63: One night, my girlfriend of the time and I were on the way to my local watering hole.  We were stop for a approaching train, about 5 cars from the gates.  A car pull out of line behind us and proceeds to drive around the gates.  My girlfriend said, "He's not going to make it!' and I said, "No, I think he across."  As usual, I was wrong.  The freight train, horn blaring and brakes screeching, comes flying through and seemed to clip the car, because the beam from the headlights went spinning through the trees.  I did a u-turn and took another route the bar.  When we got there,I told my friend what I had witnessed. One guys father was a train engineer, and he said his father told about one incident, where the same thing I saw happened. He said the train crew ran back to the busted up car and found the driver standing there unhurt, so they promptly began to beat the shiat out of him.


Now that's definitely assault.
 
2014-04-16 03:43:58 PM

zimbomba63: One night, my girlfriend of the time and I were on the way to my local watering hole.  We were stop for a approaching train, about 5 cars from the gates.  A car pull out of line behind us and proceeds to drive around the gates.  My girlfriend said, "He's not going to make it!' and I said, "No, I think he across."  As usual, I was wrong.  The freight train, horn blaring and brakes screeching, comes flying through and seemed to clip the car, because the beam from the headlights went spinning through the trees.  I did a u-turn and took another route the bar.  When we got there,I told my friend what I had witnessed. One guys father was a train engineer, and he said his father told about one incident, where the same thing I saw happened. He said the train crew ran back to the busted up car and found the driver standing there unhurt, so they promptly began to beat the shiat out of him.


So...you witnessed a car getting hit by a train and you didn't stop to help, you just found a more convenient route to a bar.  CSB.
 
2014-04-16 03:44:41 PM
If you don't want to get hit by a train, don't stand next to it.

/instant correction good for dogs and stupid humans
 
2014-04-16 03:45:20 PM

rwhamann: if I was that kid's dad, I'd be shopping lawyers right now.


Of course you would, you worthless piece of opportunistic garbage.
 
2014-04-16 03:46:10 PM
I think the conductor was trying to save the kid and get him clear. If he wanted to hurt him, I'm sure he had a length of pipe or a hammer handy.
 
2014-04-16 03:46:40 PM
Bet the conductor was twenty-five.

/speed jive don't want to stay alive when you're twenty-five
 
2014-04-16 03:49:12 PM

zimbomba63: One night, my girlfriend of the time and I were on the way to my local watering hole.  We were stop for a approaching train, about 5 cars from the gates.  A car pull out of line behind us and proceeds to drive around the gates.  My girlfriend said, "He's not going to make it!' and I said, "No, I think he across."  As usual, I was wrong.  The freight train, horn blaring and brakes screeching, comes flying through and seemed to clip the car, because the beam from the headlights went spinning through the trees.  I did a u-turn and took another route the bar.  When we got there,I told my friend what I had witnessed. One guys father was a train engineer, and he said his father told about one incident, where the same thing I saw happened. He said the train crew ran back to the busted up car and found the driver standing there unhurt, so they promptly began to beat the shiat out of him.


That is pretty awesome.
 
2014-04-16 03:49:23 PM

uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while


Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.
 
2014-04-16 03:50:45 PM

Mikey1969: edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.

Yep... We had 3 or 4 people a year get hit by a train in Flagstaff, most were people illegally crossing, or drunks on the tracks, but every once in awhile, someone got sucked in... 2/3 of downtown was on one side of the tracks, the rest on the other, and even waiting for a train  to go by, standing just outside the barrier, you could feel that shiat. It was actually pretty cool.


I'm in Flag, and I know someone here who was standing close to the train because the rushing wind felt cool... right up until something sticking out of the train smacked him, breaking off the top of his femur and shattering everloving fark out of his pelvis.  It's amazing he learned to walk again.

This story came to mind the other night when I watched a drunk dude try to get his head reeeeeel close to the train.  I said something to him and his friends, but in their opinion he didn't die so it's fine.  Also, wooooooooo-hoooooooo! and baaaarf!
 
2014-04-16 03:51:10 PM

InterruptingQuirk: FLMountainMan: AndreMA: That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.

If you get the opportunity, you should probably kill yourself.


[i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

I just finished that series, really good until the last 5 minutes of the last episode.


Let me guess - liberal?

/Funny how it breaks down that way
 
2014-04-16 03:51:32 PM
A kick could have caused serious injury, but a slap would have been in order.

/GET OUT OF THE WAY MORON
 
2014-04-16 03:51:43 PM

FLMountainMan: AndreMA: That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.

If you get the opportunity, you should probably kill yourself.


I'm having too much fun with geographically impaired people who think there are mountains in Florida...
 
2014-04-16 03:51:56 PM

Literally Addicted: So...you witnessed a car getting hit by a train and you didn't stop to help, you just found a more convenient route to a bar.  CSB.


When trains hit things, they stop and must assess damage.   From the posters description, he was on the opposite side of the tracks... as in, the train would have been between him and the car that got hit.  Therefore, there was nothing he could have done, and its likely the train would have been sitting there blocking the road for quite awhile.

...and trains are really long, and take some distance to stop, so no, simply walking around it was probably not an option.

/Arm chairing things is fun.
 
2014-04-16 03:53:31 PM
Another reason I don't think the conductor was malicious? He didn't yell "KEE YAH!"
 
2014-04-16 03:55:44 PM
Am I the only person who watched the video?  The number of 'speeding train' comments and grim projections of getting sucked under or impaled on protruding metal when compared to the lazy amble present in the video is baffling.

Not that the conductor did wrong here that loop of steel or any other protrusion could have easily dazed the kid enough to make him fall and who knows which direction he would fall in?  He might have saved that kid's life, or limb(s).
 
2014-04-16 03:56:35 PM

gunther_bumpass: FLMountainMan: AndreMA: That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.

If you get the opportunity, you should probably kill yourself.

If only we could think of a way he might do that...


Not a very bright lot, are you? Hanging, drug overdose, jumping from high places, gunshot wound, drowning in caterpillars -- plenty of methods of suicide and you can't come out with even one? Tsk tsk.
 
2014-04-16 03:57:31 PM

AndreMA: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.


U right.  Now we just need to figure out how to transport people in the pipelines. We got information in tubes, why not people?
 
2014-04-16 03:58:08 PM

Egoy3k: that loop of steel or any other protrusion could have easily dazed the kid


Unlike a shod foot?
 
2014-04-16 03:58:52 PM

AndreMA: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.


I kinda doubt pipelines are much less expensive to lay than railroad track
 
2014-04-16 03:58:58 PM

FLMountainMan: InterruptingQuirk: FLMountainMan: AndreMA: That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.

If you get the opportunity, you should probably kill yourself.


[i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

I just finished that series, really good until the last 5 minutes of the last episode.

Let me guess - liberal?

/Funny how it breaks down that way


OK? What are you on about?
 
2014-04-16 03:59:37 PM

uber humper: AndreMA: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.

U right.  Now we just need to figure out how to transport people in the pipelines. We got information in tubes, why not people?


That's not as silly as it sounds at first glance. A sealed pod that is neutrally bouyant in whatever fluid the pipeline is carrying should do the trick...
 
2014-04-16 04:00:08 PM

Literally Addicted: zimbomba63: One night, my girlfriend of the time and I were on the way to my local watering hole.  We were stop for a approaching train, about 5 cars from the gates.  A car pull out of line behind us and proceeds to drive around the gates.  My girlfriend said, "He's not going to make it!' and I said, "No, I think he across."  As usual, I was wrong.  The freight train, horn blaring and brakes screeching, comes flying through and seemed to clip the car, because the beam from the headlights went spinning through the trees.  I did a u-turn and took another route the bar.  When we got there,I told my friend what I had witnessed. One guys father was a train engineer, and he said his father told about one incident, where the same thing I saw happened. He said the train crew ran back to the busted up car and found the driver standing there unhurt, so they promptly began to beat the shiat out of him.

So...you witnessed a car getting hit by a train and you didn't stop to help, you just found a more convenient route to a bar.  CSB.


Yeah but unfortunately the guy still survived.
 
2014-04-16 04:00:30 PM

uber humper: AndreMA: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.

U right.  Now we just need to figure out how to transport people in the pipelines. We got information in tubes, why not people?


How do you ship non liquid goods in a pipeline?
 
2014-04-16 04:01:37 PM
I wonder how the engineer's foot did.

As a young'n I learned that you and a buddy driving by each other at 25mph so you can give a 50mph high five hurts like mother farker.
 
2014-04-16 04:02:48 PM

uber humper: AndreMA: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.

I kinda doubt pipelines are much less expensive to lay than railroad track


That's why I excluded the initial outlay. On the other hand, pipelines that are underground don't prevent the use of the land above them for agriculture, parking lots, or other facilities that are relatively inexpensive to dig up and repair as needed over the decades. Also no expensive safety equipment at grade crossings with pipelines...
 
2014-04-16 04:04:43 PM

R.A.Danny: uber humper: AndreMA: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.

U right.  Now we just need to figure out how to transport people in the pipelines. We got information in tubes, why not people?

How do you ship non liquid goods in a pipeline?


Well, you see, we take these tubes
images.bwbx.io

and

cdn0.vox-cdn.com

by the next day we will have

s1.ibtimes.com
 
2014-04-16 04:04:44 PM
img412.imageshack.us
 The engineer, 20 seconds before the video was taken
 
2014-04-16 04:04:52 PM

uber humper: We got information in tubes, why not people?


Would only work for men.

The women are in binders, which tend to clog the pipe.
 
2014-04-16 04:05:09 PM

Literally Addicted: So...you witnessed a car getting hit by a train and you didn't stop to help, you just found a more convenient route to a bar.  CSB.


Well yeah, a man has his priorities. I'm taking points off though because he didn't get "video" of the incident.
 
2014-04-16 04:05:36 PM

Alonjar: When trains hit things, they stop and must assess damage. From the posters description, he was on the opposite side of the tracks... as in, the train would have been between him and the car that got hit. Therefore, there was nothing he could have done, and its likely the train would have been sitting there blocking the road for quite awhile.


At what point does he say the car is on the opposite side of the tracks?  Assumptions sure are funny looking things from an armchair.

...and trains are really long, and take some distance to stop, so no, simply walking around it was probably not an option.

Also, my point - since the train operator would be quite some distance from the actual accident, immediate first aid might have been needed for the car driver.  If, in fact, the car was on the other side of the train (as you assume) and couldn't be safely reached, perhaps a 911 call wouldn't have been a bad idea?
 
2014-04-16 04:11:52 PM

InterruptingQuirk: R.A.Danny: uber humper: AndreMA: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.

U right.  Now we just need to figure out how to transport people in the pipelines. We got information in tubes, why not people?

How do you ship non liquid goods in a pipeline?

Well, you see, we take these tubes
[images.bwbx.io image 630x420]

and

[cdn0.vox-cdn.com image 640x401]

by the next day we will have

[s1.ibtimes.com image 770x578]


media.tumblr.com

Bond did it in a pig
 
2014-04-16 04:12:40 PM

AndreMA: Egoy3k: that loop of steel or any other protrusion could have easily dazed the kid

Unlike a shod foot?


Which would you think is more likely to daze someone?

5 square centimeters of Rubber boot connected to a flexible leg.

.5 square centimeters of steel with no give.
 
2014-04-16 04:14:46 PM

Egoy3k: Which would you think is more likely to daze someone?5 square centimeters of Rubber boot connected to a flexible leg..5 square centimeters of steel with no give.


Not sure it matters if the head is SOLID BONE.
 
2014-04-16 04:15:47 PM

cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.


jesus christ, that's some grade-a concern-troll smarm you got there. i've never seen a wet blanket with such laser precision. you've been at this thing a bit, haven't you?
 
2014-04-16 04:16:13 PM

Zul the Magnificent: Egoy3k: Which would you think is more likely to daze someone?5 square centimeters of Rubber boot connected to a flexible leg..5 square centimeters of steel with no give.

Not sure it matters if the head is SOLID BONE.


Well it does. Sorry that your education sucked.
 
2014-04-16 04:16:21 PM

rosekolodny: Mikey1969: edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.

Yep... We had 3 or 4 people a year get hit by a train in Flagstaff, most were people illegally crossing, or drunks on the tracks, but every once in awhile, someone got sucked in... 2/3 of downtown was on one side of the tracks, the rest on the other, and even waiting for a train  to go by, standing just outside the barrier, you could feel that shiat. It was actually pretty cool.

I'm in Flag, and I know someone here who was standing close to the train because the rushing wind felt cool... right up until something sticking out of the train smacked him, breaking off the top of his femur and shattering everloving fark out of his pelvis.  It's amazing he learned to walk again.

This story came to mind the other night when I watched a drunk dude try to get his head reeeeeel close to the train.  I said something to him and his friends, but in their opinion he didn't die so it's fine.  Also, wooooooooo-hoooooooo! and baaaarf!


I was wondering if they still had freight trains blasting through town. I would have figured they''d slow 'em down at this point. I used to live directly uphill from the Mike And Rhonda's on the West side. We were like 75 feet from the tracks, and a train hit someone one night. I hadn't even noticed a train was going by because I got good at ignoring them.. My roommate worked for the paper, so we went out to see what was going on, and ended up being the people who found the body. It was in a yard at least 100 feet farther down the tracks from where the train itself hit her.

You don't fark around with trains when they fling you an extra 100 feet AFTER they stop.

That sucks the person you know got hit. That sounds brutal.
 
2014-04-16 04:16:31 PM

AndreMA: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.


So, it's cheaper after the expensive bits are paid for? Flying is super cheap, after you pay for the planes, airports, pilots and gas, after all...
 
2014-04-16 04:16:35 PM

AndreMA: Not a very bright lot, are you? Hanging, drug overdose, jumping from high places, gunshot wound, drowning in caterpillars -- plenty of methods of suicide and you can't come out with even one? Tsk tsk.


The joke is, "getting hit by a train."

You must be new here.
 
2014-04-16 04:23:37 PM
Next time let him die.
 
2014-04-16 04:23:48 PM

Super_pope: AndreMA: Not a very bright lot, are you? Hanging, drug overdose, jumping from high places, gunshot wound, drowning in caterpillars -- plenty of methods of suicide and you can't come out with even one? Tsk tsk.

The joke is, "getting hit by a train."

You must be new here.


Thank you Super Pope.
 
2014-04-16 04:25:29 PM
I've listened to preachers, I've listened to fools. I've watched all the dropouts who make their own rules. All of you brothers over in Africa, tell all the folks in Egypt, and Israel, too. L.A. proved too much for the man (too much for the man, he couldn't make it). So he's leaving a life he's come to know. He sees his children jumping off at stations one by one. His woman and his best friend in bed and having fun. And no one knows the Gypsy's name. No one hears his lonely sighs. There are no blankets where he lies. Well I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison, and I went to pick her up in the rain, but before I could get to the station in my pickup truck, well, we made a stop in Albuquerque; she must thought I was a real cool jerk. Yonder come Miss Rosie. How in the world did you know? By the way she wears her apron and the clothes she wore. But I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.

/sole train?
 
2014-04-16 04:25:52 PM

Milo Minderbinder: AndreMA: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.

So, it's cheaper after the expensive bits are paid for? Flying is super cheap, after you pay for the planes, airports, pilots and gas, after all...


Circumstances matter. Try shipping something from NYC to London by rail. Or to a tiny island by air (seaplanes excluded). Or to orbit by mule train.

For land transport, though, the incremental cost per ton is (or was; my info might be a bit out of date) is cheapest for pipelines. By sea, supertankers. By air, lighter-than-air dirigibles (I think they use a few for logging in remote areas). To LEO, probably Roscosmos, or maybe ESA.
 
2014-04-16 04:26:39 PM

Mikey1969: You don't fark around with trains when they fling you an extra 100 feet AFTER they stop.
That sucks the person you know got hit. That sounds brutal.


I watched a video of a person being hit by a train at a depot (it wasn't stopping, and she stepped out in front of one that was stopped and BAM). She got flung probably 100 feet, almost right into the security camera that recorded it. Fast. Very, very fast.

Another one of those things on the internet that I kind of wish I hadn't watched.
 
2014-04-16 04:27:54 PM
cryinoutloud:

Another one of those things on the internet that I kind of wish I hadn't watched.

just like FarkTV.
 
2014-04-16 04:30:40 PM

Mikey1969: rosekolodny: Mikey1969: edmo: Close enough to get kicked is close enough to get sucked into the train.

Yep... We had 3 or 4 people a year get hit by a train in Flagstaff, most were people illegally crossing, or drunks on the tracks, but every once in awhile, someone got sucked in... 2/3 of downtown was on one side of the tracks, the rest on the other, and even waiting for a train  to go by, standing just outside the barrier, you could feel that shiat. It was actually pretty cool.

I'm in Flag, and I know someone here who was standing close to the train because the rushing wind felt cool... right up until something sticking out of the train smacked him, breaking off the top of his femur and shattering everloving fark out of his pelvis.  It's amazing he learned to walk again.

This story came to mind the other night when I watched a drunk dude try to get his head reeeeeel close to the train.  I said something to him and his friends, but in their opinion he didn't die so it's fine.  Also, wooooooooo-hoooooooo! and baaaarf!

I was wondering if they still had freight trains blasting through town. I would have figured they''d slow 'em down at this point. I used to live directly uphill from the Mike And Rhonda's on the West side. We were like 75 feet from the tracks, and a train hit someone one night. I hadn't even noticed a train was going by because I got good at ignoring them.. My roommate worked for the paper, so we went out to see what was going on, and ended up being the people who found the body. It was in a yard at least 100 feet farther down the tracks from where the train itself hit her.

You don't fark around with trains when they fling you an extra 100 feet AFTER they stop.

That sucks the person you know got hit. That sounds brutal.


Heh - I don't think those little houses by Mike & Rhonda's have gotten much better since you've been gone, even though the trains don't blow their horns through town anymore.  Noise pollution, you know.

Most of the train fatalities I've heard about/seen involve hamburger and chunks scattered for a block or two... so my friend knows he got off lucky.  One of the more depressing accidents here in the last few years had the following ingredients:

1. Old tourist couple was driving South on a North-bound one way street.
2. One way streets only have crossing guards on one side, so the confused driver pulled up to the guard... ONTO THE TRACKS.
3. Train could not stop.
 
2014-04-16 04:31:00 PM

zimbomba63: One night, my girlfriend of the time and I were on the way to my local watering hole.  We were stop for a approaching train, about 5 cars from the gates.  A car pull out of line behind us and proceeds to drive around the gates.  My girlfriend said, "He's not going to make it!' and I said, "No, I think he across."  As usual, I was wrong.  The freight train, horn blaring and brakes screeching, comes flying through and seemed to clip the car, because the beam from the headlights went spinning through the trees.  I did a u-turn and took another route the bar.  When we got there,I told my friend what I had witnessed. One guys father was a train engineer, and he said his father told about one incident, where the same thing I saw happened. He said the train crew ran back to the busted up car and found the driver standing there unhurt, so they promptly began to beat the shiat out of him.


As they should, do you know how big a pain in the ass those accident reports and the insurance paper work is?
 
2014-04-16 04:33:08 PM

cryinoutloud: Mikey1969: You don't fark around with trains when they fling you an extra 100 feet AFTER they stop.
That sucks the person you know got hit. That sounds brutal.

I watched a video of a person being hit by a train at a depot (it wasn't stopping, and she stepped out in front of one that was stopped and BAM). She got flung probably 100 feet, almost right into the security camera that recorded it. Fast. Very, very fast.

Another one of those things on the internet that I kind of wish I hadn't watched.


I once saw a drunk guy in a van try to beat a train, the train cut the van in half and the guy died.
 
2014-04-16 04:35:40 PM

cannotsuggestaname: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

trespassing still does not validate assault, or manslaughter. There were so many things that could have gone wrong there, as noted above he could have actually pulled the kid in to the wheels of the train, he could have broken his neck, he could have caused irreparable harm. The engineer is a just as big of a dumbass as the kid is.


could have, but didn't.  I could have slipped with the knife I was cutting an apple this morning and killed myself. If the engineer can kick you, you're A.) too close and B.) not paying attention to the large piece of machinery that can kill you.

/hope the kid gets fined for fouling the track.
 
2014-04-16 04:36:47 PM

Zul the Magnificent: Not sure it matters if the head is SOLID BONE.


Here's the odd thing about this statement: you have one of these-here heads that you're describing.  You've no doubt struck it on all manner of things, from nerf balls to steel street signs.  Given that your head is a constant composition throughout, can you really say that the material/object striking it make no difference?

Because that would be really dumb.
 
2014-04-16 04:40:09 PM

uber humper: Now we just need to figure out how to transport people in the pipelines. We got information in tubes, why not people?


You first.

uploads.neatorama.com

/of course, we can always go wifi

www.allthingstrek.com
 
2014-04-16 04:42:11 PM

factoryconnection: Zul the Magnificent: Not sure it matters if the head is SOLID BONE.

Here's the odd thing about this statement: you have one of these-here heads that you're describing.  You've no doubt struck it on all manner of things, from nerf balls to steel street signs.  Given that your head is a constant composition throughout, can you really say that the material/object striking it make no difference?

Because that would be really dumb.


That and the head isn't solid bone. Pretty hollow actually.
 
2014-04-16 04:43:42 PM

MBooda: I've listened to preachers, I've listened to fools. I've watched all the dropouts who make their own rules. All of you brothers over in Africa, tell all the folks in Egypt, and Israel, too. L.A. proved too much for the man (too much for the man, he couldn't make it). So he's leaving a life he's come to know. He sees his children jumping off at stations one by one. His woman and his best friend in bed and having fun. And no one knows the Gypsy's name. No one hears his lonely sighs. There are no blankets where he lies. Well I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison, and I went to pick her up in the rain, but before I could get to the station in my pickup truck, well, we made a stop in Albuquerque; she must thought I was a real cool jerk. Yonder come Miss Rosie. How in the world did you know? By the way she wears her apron and the clothes she wore. But I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.

/sole train?


goddammit
People of the world, join hands.
 
2014-04-16 04:44:15 PM

rwhamann: RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.

If you watch it again, you see that the top of the foot is in front of the kid's neck, which means it could just as easily have hooked him back in to the wheels.  Stupid, stupid, stupid, and if I was that kid's dad, I'd be shopping lawyers right now.  (the kid would still be grounded, though.) There's no good justification for this action.


Yeah he should have laid the bottom of the boot flat into the back of the kid's head.

Also if you go after the railroad employee I'm sure the railroad is going to go after your kid.
 
2014-04-16 04:45:11 PM

rosekolodny: Heh - I don't think those little houses by Mike & Rhonda's have gotten much better since you've been gone, even though the trains don't blow their horns through town anymore.  Noise pollution, you know.

Most of the train fatalities I've heard about/seen involve hamburger and chunks scattered for a block or two... so my friend knows he got off lucky.  One of the more depressing accidents here in the last few years had the following ingredients:

1. Old tourist couple was driving South on a North-bound one way street.
2. One way streets only have crossing guards on one side, so the confused driver pulled up to the guard... ONTO THE TRACKS.
3. Train could not stop.


Yeah, it was a step up from a shack in the late 90s...

Occasionally, I'd time things wrong and get stopped on the tracks, I always had an escape plan.

We did a house for a guy who worked for Santa Fe once, and he was going to bring me an air horn from a train on one of his trips. I never got it because I moved, but I always wondered what it would be like to pull up behind someone at the tracks and set that thing off.

So I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Flagstaff traffic still sucks?
 
2014-04-16 04:47:06 PM

cryinoutloud: Mikey1969: You don't fark around with trains when they fling you an extra 100 feet AFTER they stop.
That sucks the person you know got hit. That sounds brutal.

I watched a video of a person being hit by a train at a depot (it wasn't stopping, and she stepped out in front of one that was stopped and BAM). She got flung probably 100 feet, almost right into the security camera that recorded it. Fast. Very, very fast.

Another one of those things on the internet that I kind of wish I hadn't watched.


Yeah, this girl was just a rag doll when we found her. Apparently when the train had come, she'd kneeled on the tracks and held her hands up like it would stop the train.
 
2014-04-16 04:51:23 PM

BSABSVR: RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.

If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?


You're wrong. Getting hit by a boot going 30mph is significantly less dangerous than getting hit by a piece of steel at the same speed. The boot will yield, the steel train won't.
 
2014-04-16 04:51:48 PM

factoryconnection: Zul the Magnificent: Not sure it matters if the head is SOLID BONE.

Here's the odd thing about this statement: you have one of these-here heads that you're describing.  You've no doubt struck it on all manner of things, from nerf balls to steel street signs.  Given that your head is a constant composition throughout, can you really say that the material/object striking it make no difference?

Because that would be really dumb.


Now ah may be just a simple country lawyer, but ah reckon the feller was makin' hisself a hyperbolic statement, that is, implyin' that the feller's head what coulda got hit by thet there train was bone throughout - no gray matter a'tall. Just a mass 'o solid bone, like what you fine ladies and gennuhmin o' the jury might roll down a tenpin lane.

The joke, ah say the joke just flew ovah ya haid, son.
 
2014-04-16 04:54:44 PM
BOOM - Head Shot...makes Thomas smile

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-16 04:55:15 PM

AndreMA: Milo Minderbinder: AndreMA: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.

So, it's cheaper after the expensive bits are paid for? Flying is super cheap, after you pay for the planes, airports, pilots and gas, after all...

Circumstances matter. Try shipping something from NYC to London by rail. Or to a tiny island by air (seaplanes excluded). Or to orbit by mule train.

For land transport, though, the incremental cost per ton is (or was; my info might be a bit out of date) is cheapest for pipelines. By sea, supertankers. By air, lighter-than-air dirigibles (I think they use a few for logging in remote areas). To LEO, probably Roscosmos, or maybe ESA.


As a side note, 747s have some of the highest bandwidth... If you pack 'em full of micro SD cards.

NYC to London via 747 handles more info than fiber
 
2014-04-16 04:55:56 PM

SpectroBoy: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

Does US law also allow you to kick trespassers in the head?

I thought not.


In the states it would be having homeland security having you in hand cuffs, questioning you on why you were trespassing on private property.
 
2014-04-16 04:56:06 PM

Mikey1969: cryinoutloud: Mikey1969: You don't fark around with trains when they fling you an extra 100 feet AFTER they stop.
That sucks the person you know got hit. That sounds brutal.

I watched a video of a person being hit by a train at a depot (it wasn't stopping, and she stepped out in front of one that was stopped and BAM). She got flung probably 100 feet, almost right into the security camera that recorded it. Fast. Very, very fast.

Another one of those things on the internet that I kind of wish I hadn't watched.

Yeah, this girl was just a rag doll when we found her.


Livin' in a movie?
Hot tramp, daddies little cutie?
 
2014-04-16 04:56:45 PM

uber humper: AndreMA: Milo Minderbinder: AndreMA: uber humper: It's very competitive as a mode transporting freight. the most efficient on land. About 3 cents per ton per mile. Needs roads for the last mile, but trains are the way to go and will be here for a while

Second most. Pipelines -- once the initial capital outlay is amortized -- are cheaper.

So, it's cheaper after the expensive bits are paid for? Flying is super cheap, after you pay for the planes, airports, pilots and gas, after all...

Circumstances matter. Try shipping something from NYC to London by rail. Or to a tiny island by air (seaplanes excluded). Or to orbit by mule train.

For land transport, though, the incremental cost per ton is (or was; my info might be a bit out of date) is cheapest for pipelines. By sea, supertankers. By air, lighter-than-air dirigibles (I think they use a few for logging in remote areas). To LEO, probably Roscosmos, or maybe ESA.

As a side note, 747s have some of the highest bandwidth... If you pack 'em full of micro SD cards.

NYC to London via 747 handles more info than fiber


The latency is a biatch though.
 
2014-04-16 05:00:03 PM

MBooda: uber humper: Now we just need to figure out how to transport people in the pipelines. We got information in tubes, why not people?

You first.

[uploads.neatorama.com image 500x328]

/of course, we can always go wifi

[www.allthingstrek.com image 480x407]


I've been experimenting with tubular cow transport. Intake is a high gloss porcelain apparatus in the bathroom. So far so good.
 
2014-04-16 05:03:20 PM

gunther_bumpass: Now ah may be just a simple country lawyer, but ah reckon the feller was makin' hisself a hyperbolic statement, that is, implyin' that the feller's head what coulda got hit by thet there train was bone throughout - no gray matter a'tall. Just a mass 'o solid bone, like what you fine ladies and gennuhmin o' the jury might roll down a tenpin lane.The joke, ah say the joke just flew ovah ya haid, son.

 
2014-04-16 05:05:29 PM
img.fark.net
Disparaging the boot is a bootable offense.
 
2014-04-16 05:08:04 PM
Engineer saved this moron.  Anyone who disagrees needs a swift boot kick to the head.
 
2014-04-16 05:10:15 PM

jst3p: That and the head isn't solid bone. Pretty hollow actually.


What, are you one of those fancy inte-lectuuls who has a big brain in there? I'm pretty proud of my solid bone head. it goes back generations. We only breed with other boneheads.
 
2014-04-16 05:11:56 PM

Mikey1969: rosekolodny: Heh - I don't think those little houses by Mike & Rhonda's have gotten much better since you've been gone, even though the trains don't blow their horns through town anymore.  Noise pollution, you know.

Most of the train fatalities I've heard about/seen involve hamburger and chunks scattered for a block or two... so my friend knows he got off lucky.  One of the more depressing accidents here in the last few years had the following ingredients:

1. Old tourist couple was driving South on a North-bound one way street.
2. One way streets only have crossing guards on one side, so the confused driver pulled up to the guard... ONTO THE TRACKS.
3. Train could not stop.

Yeah, it was a step up from a shack in the late 90s...

Occasionally, I'd time things wrong and get stopped on the tracks, I always had an escape plan.

We did a house for a guy who worked for Santa Fe once, and he was going to bring me an air horn from a train on one of his trips. I never got it because I moved, but I always wondered what it would be like to pull up behind someone at the tracks and set that thing off.

So I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Flagstaff traffic still sucks?


Worse than ever!

A hundred plus trains a day, Amtrak parking its shiny metal ass on the tracks twice a day for half an hour.  More population with basically the same infrastructure.  More NAU students (20,000 compared to 15,000 in 1995), and the campus has been re-worked into a "pedestrian friendly" zone... basically it means they're training 18 year olds that they don't have to look both ways before they cross the street while texting.  Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Glad I've got my bicycle.  I get around way faster on my bike than most people in cars.
 
2014-04-16 05:14:56 PM
gifmaker.me
 
2014-04-16 05:15:49 PM

pedobearapproved: Also if you go after the railroad employee I'm sure the railroad is going to go after your kid.


What looks like misdemeanor trespass vs. felony assault on a minor? If I were a lawyer, I'd take that pro bono.

/yes, I know; it wouldn't be criminal in either case if it's just battling lawsuits.
 
2014-04-16 05:16:04 PM

gunther_bumpass: fine ladies and gennuhmin


I read that as geraniums.  Good mental image.
 
2014-04-16 05:25:18 PM

rosekolodny: Worse than ever!

A hundred plus trains a day, Amtrak parking its shiny metal ass on the tracks twice a day for half an hour.  More population with basically the same infrastructure.  More NAU students (20,000 compared to 15,000 in 1995), and the campus has been re-worked into a "pedestrian friendly" zone... basically it means they're training 18 year olds that they don't have to look both ways before they cross the street while texting.  Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Glad I've got my bicycle.  I get around way faster on my bike than most people in cars.


I think when I moved, the plan was to move from about 60 trains to 75, and 60 trains was already a lot. 100 would drive me crazy. It was a fun place to live and a fun place to bar-hop, but I fought the option to drive anywhere during the day unless I could take I-40 or head up Butler.

But God, we could go 4-wheelin' forever on those Forest Service roads. One night, I put on 60 miles without touching pavement and came out in Kachina Village...
 
2014-04-16 05:26:16 PM
FLMountainMan:

Let me guess - liberal?

/Funny how it breaks down that way


Funny how you'd bring your political derp into a goddamn video thread.
 
2014-04-16 05:26:48 PM
I don't see what you guys are seeing when it comes to the metal bar that is allegedly going to hit the kid.  The black metal bar is behind the yellow one, and neither is protruding perpendicular off the side off the train.

I like seeing this oblivious douche with his earbuds in get kicked.  But it sure did look like the ankle almost hooked his neck and pulled him toward the train.  Still cool though.
 
2014-04-16 05:28:08 PM
Came here for "boot to the head".

Leaving sore.
 
2014-04-16 05:30:28 PM
I have not RTFT yet, and I imagine that this was said already, but that kick could have ended up knocking him down and under the train.

That being said... kick away, engineer dude!
 
2014-04-16 05:35:27 PM

Shmeat: The video on YouTube is titled "Kicked in the head by a train"

[replygif.net image 400x271]


well, to be fair, he was near the train.
 
2014-04-16 05:35:39 PM
 JesusJuice: BSABSVR: RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.

If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?

You're wrong. Getting hit by a boot going 30mph is significantly less dangerous than getting hit by a piece of steel at the same speed. The boot will yield, the steel train won't.


That black metal loop is flush with the side of the train, and is behind the yellow bar.  It isn't protruding.  Still a good kick though.
 
2014-04-16 05:44:44 PM

HairBolus: [gifmaker.me image 637x357]


actually from that it really does look like he could have saved that kids life.... that metal sticking out behind the boot would have grazed his hair if not hit his head...
 
2014-04-16 05:47:01 PM

pippi longstocking: Next time let him die.


Too much paperwork.
 
2014-04-16 05:54:49 PM

pippi longstocking: Next time let him die.


Then god and the devil can play cards to see who gets him.
 
2014-04-16 06:24:43 PM

jst3p: factoryconnection: Zul the Magnificent: Not sure it matters if the head is SOLID BONE.

Here's the odd thing about this statement: you have one of these-here heads that you're describing.  You've no doubt struck it on all manner of things, from nerf balls to steel street signs.  Given that your head is a constant composition throughout, can you really say that the material/object striking it make no difference?

Because that would be really dumb.

That and the head isn't solid bone. Pretty hollow actually.


Zul is implying that the kid has no brain. But thanks for your lesson in anatomy.
 
2014-04-16 06:28:27 PM

R.A.Danny: How do you ship non liquid goods in a pipeline?


 In a slurry. As long as the contents can handle the transport liquid (packaged somehow) they can be pumped. It is probably harder if the contents don't float, but velocity helps that.
 
2014-04-16 06:29:21 PM

BSABSVR: RollingThunder: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Trying to get somebody THE fark OUT OF DANGER RANGE by pushing them with the only thing that can reach (IE: their foot) is indeed rational and heroic.

If you're in danger of being hit by a protuberance from the train, then a kick from a boot by someone on said train is not significantly less dangerous.  Physics, how does it work?


Indeed, how do the physics work? A boot is far softer than metal and may be considerably less pointy than certain protuberances. Plus the human leg has a lot more give and flexibility than a piece of steel attached to a train.

Plus there's no actual evidence that he was kicked as such. Perhaps the engineer held out his foot and attempted to push him away. That's different than winding up a kick. I think it's impossible to say at this point.
 
2014-04-16 06:32:56 PM

Red_Fox: InterruptingQuirk: Close enough to get kicked means he was trespassing, at least here in the States.

It appears to be a VIA rail train, it's the right colours anyway.  They operate in Canada mostly.


booger42: Why don't they look.

/Hipster got lucky - don't turn your back on a passing train - esp that close.  Engineer/conductor has a case that he was pushing him outta the way.

//I agree, looked a bit like a VIA loco


Tenatra: I was thinking Canada as well without knowing anything about the train. The teen just seems too happy in the aftermath to be part of our American population.

This is what I expect from an American at a minimum


I'm about 100% certain that it's a PeruRail train in Peru. Colour scheme, down to the striping, and the grid configuration perfectly matches the Alco-built locomotives they use out there. I'd be willing to bet that this is between Hidroelectica and Aguas Calientes (near Macchu Picchu) where there's a very heavily-used trail that shares the railroad right-of-way.
 
2014-04-16 06:46:40 PM

factoryconnection: SpectroBoy: Your honor, the defendant was merely delivering a "freedom nudge". It would be prejudicial to call it a well-deserved swift kick to the head.

He got a level-shot boot to the head by someone on a moving train, and yet didn't even fall over or wince.  That was a soft-contact hit, not a "swift kick" by any means.  I get swift kicks to the face from bare-footed toddlers all the time and those hurt.  If that engineer was trying to "swift kick" him, he'd have been on his ass writhing in pain.

The kid won't sue because the evidence that he was placing himself in a trespassing situation and deliberately endangering himself at the liability of the railroad would sink any case possible.


Bear in mind that his boot had the energy of a train behind it, to be honest the train company has good reason to fire him, not because he hit the guy, but because he could have broken his own ankle on the guy's head.

/The actual heroic thing to have done in this case is to just let the guy get hit by the train.
 
2014-04-16 07:03:07 PM

HairBolus: [gifmaker.me image 637x357]


That's not a kick, that's the engineer keeping his leg over that metal ledge to protect the idiot.  It probably hurt the engineer more than the idiot.  He should have let the metal carve divots in the idiot's skull.  That might have made the world a slightly better place.
 
2014-04-16 07:20:18 PM

HairBolus: I've noticed in this thread some are calling the kicker "the engineer" while others "the conductor". I was probably the conductor.

In current North American trains the engineer drives the train and is the top paid job while the conductor is second in charge and is responsible for everything else (including supervising the rest of the train crew if it exists - freight trains may be crewed by just an engineer and a conductor). This notion of conductor is not to be confused with "ticket taker" on a passenger train.

... conductors duties include: ...  Be alert to wayside signals, switch position, and other conditions that affect safe train movement

The engineer probably stayed at the controls while the conductor went out to address the safety issue, though if there was lesser other crew on board then one of them might have been sent out.


Mr conductor!
www.sodor-island.net
See also:
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2014-04-16 07:27:26 PM

stonicus: That kid is a super idiot... he's also probably going to lawyer up and get a fat check from the train company.


No he won't. He was trespassing. He was to close to the tracks. He is not dead. I have been hot by a truck from CSX before. Where the driver was completely at fault. My lawyer---"the have really good lawyers and a lot of time" So honestly, assuming this was a CSX train they would probably sue him. HAH
 
2014-04-16 07:43:53 PM

gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.


It's settled then. They're both idiots.
 
2014-04-16 07:46:40 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: Damn kids these days!!!



img.fark.net

He was Darwin's henchman, the kid was lucky this guy took the day off.

/hoping for this, leaving satisfied
 
2014-04-16 07:48:56 PM

imnotadoctor: gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.

It's settled then. They're both idiots.


Keep going down the thread where you'll find the picture of the piece of steel that would've took off the kid's head if the foot wasn't there, and you'll see who really was the idiot.
 
2014-04-16 08:00:39 PM

lack of warmth: imnotadoctor: gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.

It's settled then. They're both idiots.

Keep going down the thread where you'll find the picture of the piece of steel that would've took off the kid's head if the foot wasn't there, and you'll see who really was the idiot.


Look at what hairbolus posted above.  It doesn't look like anything is protruding.  The black bar is behind the yellow bar, and the foot doesn't hit anything other than the neck.
 
2014-04-16 08:01:34 PM
Don't foul the track, numbnuts.
 
2014-04-16 08:36:20 PM

redsquid: Engineers and bulls have a well developed hatred of gunsels and train fans. I've had them throw shiat at me from moving trains because I was standing on public property taking pictures. The fact that train fans are some of the biggest supporters of their dying industry doesn't seem to make a bit of difference. Train bulls are right up there with prison guards in the 'too dumb to be a cop but still craves the power' scale. The kid may have been wrong, but kicking him in the head was just being a douche.


Got shouted at by a rail maintenance crew for trespassing earlier today in fact. I was on my lunch time walk around the building. In our parking lot. Which is set back several yards from the rail line. One of their trucks was in our parking lot, clearly past the 'employees and customers only, no trespassing' sign. I had a laugh.
 
2014-04-16 08:41:45 PM
The old, dying, and obsolete tend to be cranky
 
2014-04-16 08:43:40 PM

gunther_bumpass: Some dude on the reddit pointed this out - I'll take the boot over a loop of steel welded to a locomotive any day.
But then I wouldn't be within a shoe's length of a passing train in the first place.

[i.imgur.com image 642x435]


And this right here is why the hero tag is on this story. Had that dumbass not been paying attention, his cerebrum and medulla oblongata would be hanging off that piece of metal.
 
2014-04-16 08:44:09 PM

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


If you look upon it as culling the herd, it mosts certainly does. Of course, I think driver-side airbags should be deactivated if you exceed the speed limit.
 
2014-04-16 08:44:44 PM

rbuzby: lack of warmth: imnotadoctor: gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.

It's settled then. They're both idiots.

Keep going down the thread where you'll find the picture of the piece of steel that would've took off the kid's head if the foot wasn't there, and you'll see who really was the idiot.

Look at what hairbolus posted above.  It doesn't look like anything is protruding.  The black bar is behind the yellow bar, and the foot doesn't hit anything other than the neck.


Ok, Grandpa - we get it.  Everyone else sees it wrong, you're the only one who sees it correctly...
 
2014-04-16 08:56:40 PM

FairToMiddling: rbuzby: lack of warmth: imnotadoctor: gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.

It's settled then. They're both idiots.

Keep going down the thread where you'll find the picture of the piece of steel that would've took off the kid's head if the foot wasn't there, and you'll see who really was the idiot.

Look at what hairbolus posted above.  It doesn't look like anything is protruding.  The black bar is behind the yellow bar, and the foot doesn't hit anything other than the neck.

Ok, Grandpa - we get it.  Everyone else sees it wrong, you're the only one who sees it correctly...


It's apparent from looking at the stills and the gif that HairBolus posted above. Something out of the frame might have hit the guy if he stayed there, but nothing in the frame other than the boot was about to hit him.
 
2014-04-16 09:14:18 PM
it wasn't a kick - it was the idiot's collision with an already protruding boot. Engineer was not required to remove foot from comfortable position.
Had it been an actual KICK, the foot would not have curled so cleanly around that big, fat head.
 
2014-04-16 09:17:27 PM

rbuzby: Something out of the frame might have hit the guy if he stayed there, but nothing in the frame other than the boot was about to hit him.


i.imgur.com

I think you need some glasses. And visit a couple of train yards.

/lived behind one
 
2014-04-16 09:39:09 PM
khyberkitsune    That piece of metal circled is not even the closest thing to the guy.  The yellow part of the railing is closer.  The boot is not protecting him from anything in the the frame.  Look at  HairBolus post above.  The Gif shows it better than the frame you posted. The boot isn't at the same distance from the camera as the circled area in your pic. If it were, he would have broken his ankle.  Instead the foot sweeps back after it hits the neck. Look at the video and the GIF.

Regardless, I fully support the booting.  The guy deserved it.  I even think he heard the horn, but didn't care since he stupidly thought he was far enough away. One of the wider cars behind the engine might have hit him but that black metal thingy was not going to.
 
2014-04-16 09:50:03 PM

rbuzby: khyberkitsune    That piece of metal circled is not even the closest thing to the guy.  The yellow part of the railing is closer.  The boot is not protecting him from anything in the the frame.  Look at  HairBolus post above.  The Gif shows it better than the frame you posted. The boot isn't at the same distance from the camera as the circled area in your pic. If it were, he would have broken his ankle.  Instead the foot sweeps back after it hits the neck. Look at the video and the GIF.

Regardless, I fully support the booting.  The guy deserved it.  I even think he heard the horn, but didn't care since he stupidly thought he was far enough away. One of the wider cars behind the engine might have hit him but that black metal thingy was not going to.


Learn how to determine perspective. First off, see where my circled area is meeting up with the engineer's calf? Note the angulation of his boot and follow the comparative angle of the limb, compared with the impact point of the boot top against the side of the skull.  This clearly shows that had that engineer not booted this dipshiat, his cerebellum would have been torn from the back of his skull.
 
2014-04-16 10:15:46 PM

khyberkitsune: This clearly shows that had that engineer not booted this dipshiat, his cerebellum would have been torn from the back of his skull.


I'm no doctor but I think that is about as close to an instant death as you can get.
 
2014-04-16 10:16:00 PM
images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-04-16 10:19:36 PM
Is it ok for a motorcyclist to kick vehicles that get too close?
 
2014-04-16 11:03:29 PM

Frederick: Is it ok for a motorcyclist to kick vehicles that get too close?


Sure. Still farkin' stoopit tho'.
 
2014-04-16 11:12:57 PM
Are video selfies a thing now?

/Didn't read all the comments thus far.
//Loathe myself a bit more for typing "selfies"
//Third slashy.
 
2014-04-16 11:25:07 PM
gilgigamesh:
Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Conservation of momentum does not work like that. Physics!
 
2014-04-16 11:35:45 PM

Langdon Alger: cup of water would have worked


Yeah, but it wouldn't have been painful.
 
2014-04-17 12:04:32 AM

mikemil828: factoryconnection: SpectroBoy: Your honor, the defendant was merely delivering a "freedom nudge". It would be prejudicial to call it a well-deserved swift kick to the head.

He got a level-shot boot to the head by someone on a moving train, and yet didn't even fall over or wince.  That was a soft-contact hit, not a "swift kick" by any means.  I get swift kicks to the face from bare-footed toddlers all the time and those hurt.  If that engineer was trying to "swift kick" him, he'd have been on his ass writhing in pain.

The kid won't sue because the evidence that he was placing himself in a trespassing situation and deliberately endangering himself at the liability of the railroad would sink any case possible.

Bear in mind that his boot had the energy of a train behind it, to be honest the train company has good reason to fire him, not because he hit the guy, but because he could have broken his own ankle on the guy's head.

/The actual heroic thing to have done in this case is to just let the guy get hit by the train.



If that were the case the kids brains would be splattered everywhere... A fixed rigid body (like the metal loop) would have the force of the train, a soft body that gives way, not so much... It's like saying a fun-noodle sticking off the side could have hit the guy in the head with the force of a train..
 
2014-04-17 12:29:28 AM

mikemil828: The actual heroic thing to have done in this case is to just let the guy get hit by the train.


Nope.  Trains have to stop when there is an accident, that means lost time and lost $$.  The only thing the train engineer/conductor was doing was preserving his employers' profits.

The fact that it was probably fairly satisfying to plant boot on this moron's dumbass skull is just gravy.
 
2014-04-17 12:38:02 AM

gunther_bumpass: Frederick: Is it ok for a motorcyclist to kick vehicles that get too close?

Sure. Still farkin' stoopit tho'.


I have a friend who, when he got cut-off by a car, slipped off his helmet and used it to take out the guy's taillights.

/not sure if better
 
2014-04-17 12:39:00 AM
I saw a train loaded down with Bradly's & M1's clip a tractor trailer on a tertiary highway while driving down 190 into Ft. Hood.  The rig pulled to the stop sign. Then started to pull across the track.  I thought 'What the hell is he doing?'.  Then blammo.  I never got near trains anyway growing up, but I sure as hell haven't gone near them since.
 
2014-04-17 12:52:49 AM

Olo Manolo: mikemil828: factoryconnection: SpectroBoy: Your honor, the defendant was merely delivering a "freedom nudge". It would be prejudicial to call it a well-deserved swift kick to the head.

He got a level-shot boot to the head by someone on a moving train, and yet didn't even fall over or wince.  That was a soft-contact hit, not a "swift kick" by any means.  I get swift kicks to the face from bare-footed toddlers all the time and those hurt.  If that engineer was trying to "swift kick" him, he'd have been on his ass writhing in pain.

The kid won't sue because the evidence that he was placing himself in a trespassing situation and deliberately endangering himself at the liability of the railroad would sink any case possible.

Bear in mind that his boot had the energy of a train behind it, to be honest the train company has good reason to fire him, not because he hit the guy, but because he could have broken his own ankle on the guy's head.

/The actual heroic thing to have done in this case is to just let the guy get hit by the train.


If that were the case the kids brains would be splattered everywhere... A fixed rigid body (like the metal loop) would have the force of the train, a soft body that gives way, not so much... It's like saying a fun-noodle sticking off the side could have hit the guy in the head with the force of a train..


Not necessarily, the kid does have a neck remember, at best the conductor saved him from a pretty serious laceration, at the potential cost of his own ankle.
 
2014-04-17 01:01:39 AM

Superjew: mikemil828: The actual heroic thing to have done in this case is to just let the guy get hit by the train.

Nope.  Trains have to stop when there is an accident, that means lost time and lost $$.  The only thing the train engineer/conductor was doing was preserving his employers' profits.

The fact that it was probably fairly satisfying to plant boot on this moron's dumbass skull is just gravy.


You don't think the train wouldn't have to stop if the conductor broke his ankle on the guy's head? If anything the conductor could have cost the train company more because on top of having to stop, they'd have to pay the conductor worker's comp too.
 
2014-04-17 01:15:49 AM
Warmed my black heart, it did. It's not often you can provide a cognitive readjustment to someone doing something truly stupid, only to hear an Ed Gruberman-like response on top of it.
 
2014-04-17 01:18:19 AM
This reminds me of a joke: "How many Vietnam vets does it take to change a lightbulb?"

"You don't know, man! You weren't there!"

... which is how I feel.  There's the guy on the train, and his job is to make sure the train continues training.  Maybe two cars back is a particularly wide load, with spinning machetes of death sticking out the sides, and they're spinning in the breeze.  Maybe not.  Either way, after you touch the hot stove, you understand why you shouldn't touch the stove.
 
2014-04-17 01:29:10 AM

khyberkitsune: rbuzby: Something out of the frame might have hit the guy if he stayed there, but nothing in the frame other than the boot was about to hit him.

[i.imgur.com image 642x435]

I think you need some glasses. And visit a couple of train yards.

/lived behind one


So, not so much "kicked in the head by the engineer" as "saved from a brutal head injury by the conductor." Good.
 
2014-04-17 01:41:10 AM

Deranged Mutant Killer Monster Snow Goon: Tenatra: I was thinking Canada as well without knowing anything about the train. The teen just seems too happy in the aftermath to be part of our American population.

This is what I expect from an American at a minimum

I'm about 100% certain that it's a PeruRail train in Peru. Colour scheme, down to the striping, and the grid configuration perfectly matches the Alco-built locomotives they use out there. I'd be willing to bet that this is between Hidroelectica and Aguas Calientes (near Macchu Picchu) where there's a very heavily-used trail that shares the railroad right-of-way.


Ding-ding! You both share the prize*! The teen is indeed Canadian, from Regina, SK, but he was on the trail to Macchu Picchu, according to tonight's news.

*the prize is a boot to the head. Stand close together please.
 
2014-04-17 02:15:41 AM

FormlessOne: khyberkitsune: rbuzby: Something out of the frame might have hit the guy if he stayed there, but nothing in the frame other than the boot was about to hit him.

[i.imgur.com image 642x435]

I think you need some glasses. And visit a couple of train yards.

/lived behind one

So, not so much "kicked in the head by the engineer" as "saved from a brutal head injury by the conductor." Good.


Saved from a fatal injury, more like it. At that speed, with that mass behind it and judging by the location, it would have simply torn his cerebellum straight out sideways.
 
2014-04-17 04:02:56 AM

gunther_bumpass: Frederick: Is it ok for a motorcyclist to kick vehicles that get too close?

Sure. Still farkin' stoopit tho'.


Totally of topic but it depends on how close.
/car in front, car behind, guard rail to the left, idiot not looking on the right, kicking can be all you have.
 
2014-04-17 04:25:40 AM

Literally Addicted: Alonjar: ...and trains are really long, and take some distance to stop, so no, simply walking around it was probably not an option.

Also, my point - since the train operator would be quite some distance from the actual accident, immediate first aid might have been needed for the car driver.  If, in fact, the car was on the other side of the train (as you assume) and couldn't be safely reached, perhaps a 911 call wouldn't have been a bad idea?


There's a small chance someone who lived through running the crossing guards would find himself turning over a new leaf and becoming a model human being. There's a much larger chance that such a huge bleeding dumbass would survive only to find a way to messily destroy many lives in the future until they finally do themselves in. The idea that all lives are worth saving can go fark itself. Even hypothetical passengers don't garner much sympathy if they put themselves next to someone willing to kill them to save 120 seconds.
 
2014-04-17 04:37:15 AM

zimbomba63: One night, my girlfriend of the time and I were on the way to my local watering hole.  We were stop for a approaching train, about 5 cars from the gates.  A car pull out of line behind us and proceeds to drive around the gates.  My girlfriend said, "He's not going to make it!' and I said, "No, I think he across."  As usual, I was wrong.  The freight train, horn blaring and brakes screeching, comes flying through and seemed to clip the car, because the beam from the headlights went spinning through the trees.  I did a u-turn and took another route the bar.  When we got there,I told my friend what I had witnessed. One guys father was a train engineer, and he said his father told about one incident, where the same thing I saw happened. He said the train crew ran back to the busted up car and found the driver standing there unhurt, so they promptly began to beat the shiat out of him.


From up close, trains always move seem to be moving very slowly. Many people have died underestimating the speed of an oncoming locomotive.
 
2014-04-17 04:53:20 AM
I hope the engineer is OK
 
2014-04-17 05:45:19 AM

rbuzby: lack of warmth: imnotadoctor: gilgigamesh: BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.

Yeah I had a similar thought. He could have knocked the kid down, he could have wound up under the wheels. Completely idiotic thing to do.

Funny as shiat, but idiotic.

It's settled then. They're both idiots.

Keep going down the thread where you'll find the picture of the piece of steel that would've took off the kid's head if the foot wasn't there, and you'll see who really was the idiot.

Look at what hairbolus posted above.  It doesn't look like anything is protruding.  The black bar is behind the yellow bar, and the foot doesn't hit anything other than the neck.


Maybe dumbass wouldn't have been hit by any protruding metal, but do you think the engineer could gauge it that quickly? If dumbass is close enough for him to boot, he's probably close enough to MAYBE get hit by something sticking out, but DEFINITELY close enough to die if he loses his balance or even sways a bit. Engineer was doing him a gigantic solid. As I said before, if the engineer was malicious, he has access to pipes, hammers, hot coffee...if he wanted to hurt, maim or kill Dumbass, Dumbass' video wouldn't have seen the light of day and his death would be ruled a suicide.
 
2014-04-17 06:00:02 AM
He didn't wear his high visibility jacket.
 
2014-04-17 07:24:01 AM

BSABSVR: Yeah.  Trying to murder someone for taking a selfie is totally both rational and heroic.


I don't have the words to describe just how farking stupid this comment is.
 
2014-04-17 08:15:42 AM

AndreMA: FLMountainMan: AndreMA: That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.

If you get the opportunity, you should probably kill yourself.

I'm having too much fun with geographically impaired people who think there are mountains in Florida...


Not all of us can be creative enough to have fark handles with first name, postal abbreviation for state of residence.

Maud Dib: FLMountainMan:

Let me guess - liberal?

/Funny how it breaks down that way

Funny how you'd bring your political derp into a goddamn video thread.


It's only derp because your vagina's too sandy to have a rational discussion.  Really, poll your friends sometime about how they liked the ending of True Detective.  If you have any conservative friends, they will tend to like it.  Liberals tend to not like it.  This does not validate the principles of small government, nor does it validate the principles of a larger government.  It's just an interesting tidbit.
 
2014-04-17 09:22:57 AM

FLMountainMan: AndreMA: FLMountainMan: AndreMA: That train conductor needs to be permanently banned from any work in the transportation sector, holding a driver's licence, or even operating a motorized scooter. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibilities that come from operating (or being associated with the operation of) motor vehicles.

If you get the opportunity, you should probably kill yourself.

I'm having too much fun with geographically impaired people who think there are mountains in Florida...

Not all of us can be creative enough to have fark handles with first name, postal abbreviation for state of residence.

Maud Dib: FLMountainMan:

Let me guess - liberal?

/Funny how it breaks down that way

Funny how you'd bring your political derp into a goddamn video thread.

It's only derp because your vagina's too sandy to have a rational discussion.  Really, poll your friends sometime about how they liked the ending of True Detective.  If you have any conservative friends, they will tend to like it.  Liberals tend to not like it.  This does not validate the principles of small government, nor does it validate the principles of a larger government.  It's just an interesting tidbit.


What part of the ending did you think I disliked? It wasn't the catch the guy and nearly die doing it part, it was the weak dialogue delivered during the hospital escape that gave an anticlimactic vibe to the show's end. Again I ask, what were you on about?
 
2014-04-17 09:44:18 AM
 
2014-04-17 09:52:11 AM

InterruptingQuirk: What part of the ending did you think I disliked? It wasn't the catch the guy and nearly die doing it part, it was the weak dialogue delivered during the hospital escape that gave an anticlimactic vibe to the show's end. Again I ask, what were you on about?


The dialogue at the end.  An informal survey of my friends and the fark thread about the ending indicated to me that conservatives tended to like it, liberals tended to dislike it.  I'm not defending or criticizing either viewpoint (any more than I'm defending the various musical preferences that loosely correlate to political ideology), just stating an observation.
 
2014-04-17 10:00:05 AM

Dazrin: R.A.Danny: How do you ship non liquid goods in a pipeline?

 In a slurry. As long as the contents can handle the transport liquid (packaged somehow) they can be pumped. It is probably harder if the contents don't float, but velocity helps that.


iPhone slurry, gotcha
 
2014-04-17 10:04:02 AM
A few years back some dozy twat of a trainspotter got a sartorial alteration by standing too close to an active rail line. The b3ta take on it added the appropriate blood splatter.
 
2014-04-17 10:42:49 AM
khyberkitsune:

Learn how to determine perspective.

The metal loop is BEHIND the yellow railing.  The metal loop is not touching the back of the guys ankle, that is an optical illusion.  The yellow railing is closer to the guys head than the black loopy thing.

Search google images for "Machu Pichu train" and you can see the exact train.  There is nothing sticking off the side of the train.
 
2014-04-17 11:18:46 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/jared-frank-s-selfie-of-h ea d-kick-from-train-makes-him-youtube-star-1.2613477

identifies the kickee, Jared Michael  as Jared Frank

Frank, who is originally from Cupar, is a manager in training at Jump.ca, the Saskatchewan internet service company.

http://www.rightthisminute.com/video/update-train-kick-selfie-kid-sa ys -his-viral-video-no-hoax
interviews him via Skype but doesn't add much info.

The WP which was pushing a fake video claim points out that the train wasn't going very fast:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2014/04/16/why-is- no -one-skeptical-of-this-train-selfie-video/
Accordingly, trains go pretty slow: Peru Rail says the leg from Ollantaytambo to Machu Picchu takes an hour and a half, and it's only about 26 miles. So the train that hit Michael moves at an average speed of 17 mph

I would like to point out that the presumed Peruvian conductor probably plays soccer and what he did was not a power kick to the head but more a catch and throw, as my gif demonstrates.

gifmaker.me
 
2014-04-17 11:36:25 AM

FLMountainMan: loosely correlate


You said it. My wife and I are diametrically opposed politically speaking and neither of us liked it.
 
2014-04-17 11:48:24 AM
Engineer is a hero.  How many stupid people get hit by trains because they were wearing headphones every year?

I bet these people would gladly exchange places with the guy from this video:

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/24225945/ga-man-wearing-headphones -h it-by-train-killed#axzz2z4yQCR6E

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/04/10/6313760/train-kills-truckee-woman-w ea ring.html

http://www.kenoshanews.com/news/teen_hit_by_train_was_wearing_headph on es_450745604.html
 
2014-04-17 12:07:39 PM
What's infinitely more important than whether the train engineer did the right thing, or endangered the kid more, or saved the kid's life, is that it ENTERTAINED ME.
 
2014-04-17 12:19:17 PM

HairBolus: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/jared-frank-s-selfie-of-h ea d-kick-from-train-makes-him-youtube-star-1.2613477

identifies the kickee, Jared Michael  as Jared Frank

Frank, who is originally from Cupar, is a manager in training at Jump.ca, the Saskatchewan internet service company.

http://www.rightthisminute.com/video/update-train-kick-selfie-kid-sa ys -his-viral-video-no-hoax
interviews him via Skype but doesn't add much info.

The WP which was pushing a fake video claim points out that the train wasn't going very fast:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2014/04/16/why-is- no -one-skeptical-of-this-train-selfie-video/
Accordingly, trains go pretty slow: Peru Rail says the leg from Ollantaytambo to Machu Picchu takes an hour and a half, and it's only about 26 miles. So the train that hit Michael moves at an average speed of 17 mph

I would like to point out that the presumed Peruvian conductor probably plays soccer and what he did was not a power kick to the head but more a catch and throw, as my gif demonstrates.

[gifmaker.me image 637x357]


Jared Frank.  What a dumb ass name.
 
2014-04-17 01:23:18 PM

mikemil828: You don't think the train wouldn't have to stop if the conductor broke his ankle on the guy's head?


That's correct, it wouldn't have to stop in that case.  Onboard injuries are not a reason to stop a train.

I'm baffled as to why you are so resistant to the obvious reality that this railroad worker quite likely saved that stupid kid's life with his entirely appropriate action.
 
2014-04-17 01:44:25 PM

fst_creeper: gunther_bumpass: Frederick: Is it ok for a motorcyclist to kick vehicles that get too close?

Sure. Still farkin' stoopit tho'.

Totally of topic but it depends on how close.
/car in front, car behind, guard rail to the left, idiot not looking on the right, kicking can be all you have.



If you have time to kick, you've got time to brake.
 
2014-04-17 01:49:21 PM

gunther_bumpass: fst_creeper: gunther_bumpass: Frederick: Is it ok for a motorcyclist to kick vehicles that get too close?

Sure. Still farkin' stoopit tho'.

Totally of topic but it depends on how close.
/car in front, car behind, guard rail to the left, idiot not looking on the right, kicking can be all you have.


If you have time to kick, you've got time to brake.


Do you have ANY idea how long it takes for a freight train to come to a complete stop?!?

A 150 car freight train traveling a mere 15 miles per hour takes over 2,000 feet to come to a stop.
 
2014-04-17 02:13:28 PM

InterruptingQuirk: gunther_bumpass: fst_creeper: gunther_bumpass: Frederick: Is it ok for a motorcyclist to kick vehicles that get too close?

Sure. Still farkin' stoopit tho'.

Totally of topic but it depends on how close.
/car in front, car behind, guard rail to the left, idiot not looking on the right, kicking can be all you have.


If you have time to kick, you've got time to brake.

Do you have ANY idea how long it takes for a freight train to come to a complete stop?!?

A 150 car freight train traveling a mere 15 miles per hour takes over 2,000 feet to come to a stop.



ha! Yes. I was referring to the motorcycle, not the train. I find it difficult to imagine that scenario - car in front, car behind, another car trying to squeeze into the spot the bike is in. How did you get jammed up like that? It's damned near impossible if you're paying attention. Anyway, the point is, I maintain that it's pretty dumb to be kicking things while driving a motorcycle - and a situation where "kicking is all you have" is ridiculous.

But I'm sure someone will come along with a righteous cage-kicking anecdote in a minute.
 
2014-04-17 02:37:50 PM

gunther_bumpass: InterruptingQuirk: gunther_bumpass: fst_creeper: gunther_bumpass: Frederick: Is it ok for a motorcyclist to kick vehicles that get too close?

Sure. Still farkin' stoopit tho'.

Totally of topic but it depends on how close.
/car in front, car behind, guard rail to the left, idiot not looking on the right, kicking can be all you have.


If you have time to kick, you've got time to brake.

Do you have ANY idea how long it takes for a freight train to come to a complete stop?!?

A 150 car freight train traveling a mere 15 miles per hour takes over 2,000 feet to come to a stop.


ha! Yes. I was referring to the motorcycle, not the train. I find it difficult to imagine that scenario - car in front, car behind, another car trying to squeeze into the spot the bike is in. How did you get jammed up like that? It's damned near impossible if you're paying attention. Anyway, the point is, I maintain that it's pretty dumb to be kicking things while driving a motorcycle - and a situation where "kicking is all you have" is ridiculous.

But I'm sure someone will come along with a righteous cage-kicking anecdote in a minute.


As you were. . .

media.salon.com
 
2014-04-17 07:18:09 PM

HairBolus: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/jared-frank-s-selfie-of-h ea d-kick-from-train-makes-him-youtube-star-1.2613477

identifies the kickee, Jared Michael  as Jared Frank

Frank, who is originally from Cupar, is a manager in training at Jump.ca, the Saskatchewan internet service company.

http://www.rightthisminute.com/video/update-train-kick-selfie-kid-sa ys -his-viral-video-no-hoax
interviews him via Skype but doesn't add much info.

The WP which was pushing a fake video claim points out that the train wasn't going very fast:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2014/04/16/why-is- no -one-skeptical-of-this-train-selfie-video/
Accordingly, trains go pretty slow: Peru Rail says the leg from Ollantaytambo to Machu Picchu takes an hour and a half, and it's only about 26 miles. So the train that hit Michael moves at an average speed of 17 mph

I would like to point out that the presumed Peruvian conductor probably plays soccer and what he did was not a power kick to the head but more a catch and throw, as my gif demonstrates.

[gifmaker.me image 637x357]


Thank you for putting all the pertinent points in one spot.  Bottom line: I don't care how many people are crying "ITG/Lawyer Up!" in this thread, none of these cries takes away the fact that he is standing within a foot of a moving train in a very foreign country for the sake of vanity.  There will be no laywering up, not just because he's Canadian (eh), but because I doubt there's any legal way in hell to prosecute based on the video.  He violates every rational point of safety you can imagine in those few seconds, whether it's American or Peruvian.  And as for the conductor getting in trouble, as it's pretty much his job to do exactly what he did, which is keeping people from getting hit by a train, it's probably not going to happen.

Kids do dumb things.  Luckily he didn't die from it this time.
 
2014-04-17 09:41:07 PM
There's always some jerk who cannot resist the bloody impulse to intervene where no action is required or useful.
 
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