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2014-04-16 10:26:27 AM  
There's the GOP again, with their laser focus on blow jobs, jobs, jobs.
 
2014-04-16 10:32:42 AM  
Do Republicans get a hard-on from passing blatantly unconstitutional laws?
 
2014-04-16 10:38:52 AM  

wxboy: Do Republicans get a hard-on from passing blatantly unconstitutional laws?


To be fair, all they did here was refuse to pass a bill that would repeal an unconstitutional law.
 
2014-04-16 10:38:54 AM  
Well that sucks
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-16 10:43:18 AM  
If it's not illegal legal then certain acquaintances of Louisiana lawmakers might not keep their mouths shut.  So to speak.
 
2014-04-16 10:46:05 AM  
I thought Lawrence V. Texas addressed this?

Oh wait, we're talking about the "small government" GOP here.
 
2014-04-16 10:54:13 AM  
Have they BEEN to the French Quarter?
 
2014-04-16 10:56:50 AM  

wxboy: Do Republicans get a hard-on from passing blatantly unconstitutional laws?


With no way to relieve it.
 
2014-04-16 11:00:02 AM  
This is ungodly embarrassing, but what "Think Progress" left out in their journalistic integrity is that despite the fact the Louisiana Sheriff's Association not taking a position, many other law enforcement groups and divisions did support repeal, as did many District Attorneys across the state. I'm rather surprised - but not shocked - and very disappointed that this didn't go through.
 
2014-04-16 11:07:02 AM  

Nabb1: This is ungodly embarrassing, but what "Think Progress" left out in their journalistic integrity is that despite the fact the Louisiana Sheriff's Association not taking a position, many other law enforcement groups and divisions did support repeal, as did many District Attorneys across the state. I'm rather surprised - but not shocked - and very disappointed that this didn't go through.


I'm 100% not surprised.

Remember we're talking about a state that was completely gung-ho about using public funds for school vouchers that could be used at religious schools until a group of Muslims said that they wanted to use the vouchers as well.

Remember we're talking about a state that is currently considering a bill that would make the Bible the official state book.

Remember we're talking about a state that passed a "science" law encouraging and legalizing the teaching of creationism in biology classes even though SCOTUS declared the teaching of it as science to be unconstitutional.
 
2014-04-16 11:09:16 AM  
Also, Louisiana's capitol has nothing on Florida's.

www.beerorkid.com
 
2014-04-16 11:09:32 AM  

Serious Black: Nabb1: This is ungodly embarrassing, but what "Think Progress" left out in their journalistic integrity is that despite the fact the Louisiana Sheriff's Association not taking a position, many other law enforcement groups and divisions did support repeal, as did many District Attorneys across the state. I'm rather surprised - but not shocked - and very disappointed that this didn't go through.

I'm 100% not surprised.

Remember we're talking about a state that was completely gung-ho about using public funds for school vouchers that could be used at religious schools until a group of Muslims said that they wanted to use the vouchers as well.

Remember we're talking about a state that is currently considering a bill that would make the Bible the official state book.

Remember we're talking about a state that passed a "science" law encouraging and legalizing the teaching of creationism in biology classes even though SCOTUS declared the teaching of it as science to be unconstitutional.

elected Bobby Jindal

All that really need be said
 
2014-04-16 11:10:20 AM  

Serious Black: Remember we're talking about a state that was completely gung-ho about using public funds for school vouchers that could be used at religious schools until a group of Muslims said that they wanted to use the vouchers as well.


When did that happen?
 
2014-04-16 11:11:30 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: elected Bobby Jindal


Yeah, because Kathleen Blanco was a superstar. Jindal has turned into a real dud, but he's still better than what came before him.
 
2014-04-16 11:21:44 AM  
There has to be a viral campaign that can come out of this. Along the lines of " A vote for Jindal is a vote to never get a blow job again" "A vote for Jindal is a vote to close a brown eye forever and a camera in your bedroom to make sure you stay safe and legal". There may be better slogans.
 
2014-04-16 11:26:48 AM  

Nabb1: Serious Black: Remember we're talking about a state that was completely gung-ho about using public funds for school vouchers that could be used at religious schools until a group of Muslims said that they wanted to use the vouchers as well.

When did that happen?


A couple of years ago now. This article quotes two legislators who went from "great idea, boss" to "holy crap, this is a terrible idea" really fast once they found out religious did not mean Christian. Also note that if these two had switched their votes from yea to nay, the bill approving the vouchers would have failed as the vote was 51-49.
 
2014-04-16 11:28:49 AM  

BizarreMan: Have they BEEN to the French Quarter?


CSB:
One of the women with whom I had a 3-way is now (again?) a sword-swallower in the FQ. And a model. And a burlesque performer. And, I think, a nanny.
end CSB
 
2014-04-16 11:31:26 AM  

Serious Black: Nabb1: Serious Black: Remember we're talking about a state that was completely gung-ho about using public funds for school vouchers that could be used at religious schools until a group of Muslims said that they wanted to use the vouchers as well.

When did that happen?

A couple of years ago now. This article quotes two legislators who went from "great idea, boss" to "holy crap, this is a terrible idea" really fast once they found out religious did not mean Christian. Also note that if these two had switched their votes from yea to nay, the bill approving the vouchers would have failed as the vote was 51-49.


Meh. Doesn't surprise me. That was just two legislators. There wasn't a big brouhaha about Muslims schools in my neck of the woods. New Orleans voters were largely in favor of it. The vast majority of vouchers go to poor African-American students in the state, most of them in New Orleans and East Baton Rouge Parish.
 
2014-04-16 11:37:17 AM  

Nabb1: Serious Black: Nabb1: Serious Black: Remember we're talking about a state that was completely gung-ho about using public funds for school vouchers that could be used at religious schools until a group of Muslims said that they wanted to use the vouchers as well.

When did that happen?

A couple of years ago now. This article quotes two legislators who went from "great idea, boss" to "holy crap, this is a terrible idea" really fast once they found out religious did not mean Christian. Also note that if these two had switched their votes from yea to nay, the bill approving the vouchers would have failed as the vote was 51-49.

Meh. Doesn't surprise me. That was just two legislators. There wasn't a big brouhaha about Muslims schools in my neck of the woods. New Orleans voters were largely in favor of it. The vast majority of vouchers go to poor African-American students in the state, most of them in New Orleans and East Baton Rouge Parish.


Who, if they had voted for the bill after realizing school vouchers could be used for Muslim madrassas, would likely have either voted to amend the bill to deliberately exclude them (making it clearly unconstitutional in the process) or voted against the bill and defeated it entirely.
 
2014-04-16 12:11:31 PM  

Serious Black: Nabb1: Serious Black: Nabb1: Serious Black: Remember we're talking about a state that was completely gung-ho about using public funds for school vouchers that could be used at religious schools until a group of Muslims said that they wanted to use the vouchers as well.

When did that happen?

A couple of years ago now. This article quotes two legislators who went from "great idea, boss" to "holy crap, this is a terrible idea" really fast once they found out religious did not mean Christian. Also note that if these two had switched their votes from yea to nay, the bill approving the vouchers would have failed as the vote was 51-49.

Meh. Doesn't surprise me. That was just two legislators. There wasn't a big brouhaha about Muslims schools in my neck of the woods. New Orleans voters were largely in favor of it. The vast majority of vouchers go to poor African-American students in the state, most of them in New Orleans and East Baton Rouge Parish.

Who, if they had voted for the bill after realizing school vouchers could be used for Muslim madrassas, would likely have either voted to amend the bill to deliberately exclude them (making it clearly unconstitutional in the process) or voted against the bill and defeated it entirely.


Yeah, okay, I'm not really sure what the point is, but if you think it's a big deal that two legislators threatened to change their vote for extremely silly reasons then didn't, I'm not going to dissuade you. I'd also be interested to know if any vouchers have been used for any Muslim schools. The issue has not been without controversy here, and legitimately so, but the Muslim school issue is, I can assure you, not a hot topic in that larger debate.
 
2014-04-16 12:22:09 PM  
If an unconstitutional law is a nullity and unenforceable from the start, I don't know why it is necessary to repeal it. It's embarrassing, of course, to have backwards-ass remnants of outdated laws on the books, but as a practical matter, it does absolutely zip.
 
2014-04-16 12:29:19 PM  

Dr Dreidel: BizarreMan: Have they BEEN to the French Quarter?

CSB:
One of the women with whom I had a 3-way is now (again?) a sword-swallower in the FQ. And a model. And a burlesque performer. And, I think, a nanny.
end CSB


briansalmi.files.wordpress.com

"And her name is.... Morgan Fairchild... yeah..."

/Couldn't resist.
 
2014-04-16 12:30:00 PM  
As Joe.My.God. points out, though Louisiana's unenforceable ban on oral sex and same-sex relations will remain on the books, necrophilia - sex with dead people - may remain legal there.

Not surprising.
 
2014-04-16 12:33:32 PM  

Dr Dreidel: BizarreMan: Have they BEEN to the French Quarter?

CSB:
One of the women with whom I had a 3-way is now (again?) a sword-swallower in the FQ. And a model. And a burlesque performer. And, I think, a nanny.
end CSB


Pics or it didn't happen.
 
2014-04-16 12:43:53 PM  

BizarreMan: Dr Dreidel: BizarreMan: Have they BEEN to the French Quarter?

CSB:
One of the women with whom I had a 3-way is now (again?) a sword-swallower in the FQ. And a model. And a burlesque performer. And, I think, a nanny.
end CSB

Pics or it didn't happen.

I'd give out her Stage Name's FB profile, but I'm not sure how "sanitized" it is. That said, this might be NSFW (depending on how your workplace views female butts).

// and yes, please tell me how you wouldn't hit it because you can see "cellulite" in her thighs
// you wouldn't say that if they were warming your ears
// you probably wouldn't say anything intelligible, actually
 
2014-04-16 12:49:02 PM  

Dr Dreidel: BizarreMan: Dr Dreidel: BizarreMan: Have they BEEN to the French Quarter?

CSB:
One of the women with whom I had a 3-way is now (again?) a sword-swallower in the FQ. And a model. And a burlesque performer. And, I think, a nanny.
end CSB

Pics or it didn't happen.
I'd give out her Stage Name's FB profile, but I'm not sure how "sanitized" it is. That said, this might be NSFW (depending on how your workplace views female butts).

// and yes, please tell me how you wouldn't hit it because you can see "cellulite" in her thighs
// you wouldn't say that if they were warming your ears
// you probably wouldn't say anything intelligible, actually


High five, and I say that as a straight chick.
 
2014-04-16 12:51:42 PM  
This would have mattered a lot more to me before I got married.
 
2014-04-16 12:56:08 PM  

Lorelle: As Joe.My.God. points out, though Louisiana's unenforceable ban on oral sex and same-sex relations will remain on the books, necrophilia - sex with dead people - may remain legal there.

Not surprising.


Probably relatively easy in New Orleans:
2.bp.blogspot.com

/I hope that wasn't why this cemetery was placed between the French Quarter and Storyville (New Orleans's old red light district)
 
2014-04-16 12:58:39 PM  

vpb: If it's not illegal legal then certain acquaintances of Louisiana lawmakers might not keep their mouths shut.  So to speak.


I wouldn't count on that.


Acquaintances of Louisiana lawmakers who don't keep their mouths shut have a way of becoming suddenly "suicidal".
 
2014-04-16 12:58:55 PM  

RexTalionis: If an unconstitutional law is a nullity and unenforceable from the start, I don't know why it is necessary to repeal it. It's embarrassing, of course, to have backwards-ass remnants of outdated laws on the books, but as a practical matter, it does absolutely zip.


Well, it shouldn't be, but the Sherriff's Office in East Baton Rouge Parish rounded up some guys in a park under this law, and it was a known pick-up place to go have sex in private, not actually in the park, and their response was basically, "Well, gosh, we know the law may be unconstitutional, but it's still on the books, and until the legislature does something, we are duty-bound to enforce the laws of this state and it's up to the prosecutors and the legislature to sort this out." So, that's how we ended up with this. And it failed. This state needs an enema.
 
2014-04-16 01:00:30 PM  
The 67 lawmakers who opposed the repeal thus violated their oath of office, in which they swore to support the Constitution of the United States.

Isn't there some crime we can charge them with?  Just for fun?
 
2014-04-16 01:04:06 PM  

wxboy: Also, Louisiana's capitol has nothing on Florida's.

[www.beerorkid.com image 600x450]


Is that building circumcised?.
 
2014-04-16 01:04:39 PM  

Dr Dreidel: // and yes, please tell me how you wouldn't hit it because you can see "cellulite" in her thighs


I'd never say that.

/her elbows are too sharp
 
2014-04-16 01:05:02 PM  
The Louisiana Family Forum also alleged that the law was essential to protect children from sodomy, even though several other laws account for such protections.

I am utterly sure that no other laws in the state of Louisiana makes a forced oral cop or raping a child in the asshole illegal.

Now, you get to decide if I was sarcastically ridiculing a "Family" organization, or if I actually believe that a backwards state like LA have a law making rape in general illegal.
 
2014-04-16 01:05:16 PM  

RexTalionis: If an unconstitutional law is a nullity and unenforceable from the start, I don't know why it is necessary to repeal it. It's embarrassing, of course, to have backwards-ass remnants of outdated laws on the books, but as a practical matter, it does absolutely zip.


You must have missed the mention in TFA that the EBR sheriff's office was conducting a sting on gay men in Baton Rouge who met in public with the intent to go somewhere private to do the deed, and citing this law as authority.

That is what prompted the drive to repeal it.
 
2014-04-16 01:05:27 PM  
Pinch the tail. Suck the head.
 
2014-04-16 01:05:54 PM  
WHY?!  Who is it hurting?
 
2014-04-16 01:06:22 PM  
Er, yeah. What Nabb already said.

That's what I get for not refreshing.
 
2014-04-16 01:09:24 PM  

wxboy: Do Republicans get a hard-on from passing blatantly unconstitutional laws?


No, they get hard talking about same sex sexual activities.
 
2014-04-16 01:09:31 PM  

BizarreMan: Have they BEEN to the French Quarter?


Probably, but Lawrence v Texas keeps them for being prosecuted for violating the state law, even if it isn't repealed.
 
2014-04-16 01:14:41 PM  

Dr Dreidel: BizarreMan: Dr Dreidel: BizarreMan: Have they BEEN to the French Quarter?

CSB:
One of the women with whom I had a 3-way is now (again?) a sword-swallower in the FQ. And a model. And a burlesque performer. And, I think, a nanny.
end CSB

Pics or it didn't happen.
I'd give out her Stage Name's FB profile, but I'm not sure how "sanitized" it is. That said, this might be NSFW (depending on how your workplace views female butts).

// and yes, please tell me how you wouldn't hit it because you can see "cellulite" in her thighs
// you wouldn't say that if they were warming your ears
// you probably wouldn't say anything intelligible, actually


That is a very fine figure of a woman right there.
 
2014-04-16 01:15:33 PM  
oppnutau.webs.com

NY capitol district.
 
2014-04-16 01:16:09 PM  

abb3w: BizarreMan: Have they BEEN to the French Quarter?

Probably, but Lawrence v Texas keeps them for being prosecuted for violating the state law, even if it isn't repealed.


Cold comfort to some guy on the down low who gets his picture in the local paper for his "crimes against nature" arrest that the charges subsequently get dropped on a technicality.
 
2014-04-16 01:18:03 PM  

RexTalionis: If an unconstitutional law is a nullity and unenforceable from the start, I don't know why it is necessary to repeal it. It's embarrassing, of course, to have backwards-ass remnants of outdated laws on the books, but as a practical matter, it does absolutely zip.


It's unconstitutional, but not unenforceable "from the start".

The sheriff in East Baton Rouge parish apparently gets his jollies by sending out his deputies to talk to gay men in a park, and then when they get back to the gay guy's apartment, arresting them because they were planning to have consensual gay sex in the privacy of their own domiciles.  So they get stuck in the county jail until they can go before a judge to get it straightened out, but in some cases instead of tossing the case because the didn't violate a constitutional law, a few judges actually set bail.  The cases were only dismissed when the local DA refused to prosecute.

So, it's a nullity.  But the sheriff will still arrest you, the judge won't won't release you, you spend a few days in jail (and maybe get fired for not showing up to work), you now have an arrest record, and you probably have to pay a lawyer to get it all sorted.  Which means that it's not really all that 'null'.
 
2014-04-16 01:18:47 PM  

Nabb1: Well, it shouldn't be, but the Sherriff's Office in East Baton Rouge Parish rounded up some guys in a park under this law, and it was a known pick-up place to go have sex in private, not actually in the park, and their response was basically, "Well, gosh, we know the law may be unconstitutional, but it's still on the books, and until the legislature does something, we are duty-bound to enforce the laws of this state and it's up to the prosecutors and the legislature to sort this out." So, that's how we ended up with this. And it failed. This state needs an enema.


gilgigamesh: You must have missed the mention in TFA that the EBR sheriff's office was conducting a sting on gay men in Baton Rouge who met in public with the intent to go somewhere private to do the deed, and citing this law as authority.

That is what prompted the drive to repeal it.


Ah, okay, well, that's different. Is there any way to sanction that particular sheriff's office?
 
2014-04-16 01:18:52 PM  

gilgigamesh: Cold comfort to some guy on the down low who gets his picture in the local paper for his "crimes against nature" arrest that the charges subsequently get dropped on a technicality.


I thought it was clear from context; by "them", I meant the state legislators.
 
2014-04-16 01:20:07 PM  

Courtney Love's Genital Warts: The 67 lawmakers who opposed the repeal thus violated their oath of office, in which they swore to support the Constitution of the United States.

Isn't there some crime we can charge them with?  Just for fun?


Yes. Treason. And it's not fun. And it won't happen.

/why was there a bill to repeal an unconstitutional law anyway? If the law is unconstitutional, then it's not a law
 
2014-04-16 01:20:38 PM  

Dr Dreidel: BizarreMan: Have they BEEN to the French Quarter?

CSB:
One of the women with whom I had a 3-way is now (again?) a sword-swallower in the FQ. And a model. And a burlesque performer. And, I think, a nanny.
end CSB


One of the women I had a 3-way with is now my wife, and the other one is one of our best friends... :-)
 
2014-04-16 01:23:06 PM  

RexTalionis: Ah, okay, well, that's different. Is there any way to sanction that particular sheriff's office?


I don't see how. Its a law on the books, and it's just been reaffirmed. It's not the sheriff's job to decide whether a law is constitutional.
 
2014-04-16 01:23:26 PM  
I got blown in LA come get coppers.
 
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