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(Guardian)   Local billionaires think it's wrong that there are people who sleep in cars in Silicon Valley because they are homeless, and want to improve their quality of life   (theguardian.com) divider line 59
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2014-04-16 11:54:00 AM  
12 votes:
I don't understand. Why don't these homeless people just sleep in their parents guest homes?
2014-04-16 12:17:00 PM  
4 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.


You are missing a good teaching moment here.  You can use the homeless as examples of what happen if you pursue degrees in the liberal arts.  Scare the little womprats into STEM.
2014-04-16 01:06:16 PM  
3 votes:

Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.


Big words from a guy who lives in a barrel.
2014-04-16 01:02:44 PM  
3 votes:

HelloNeuman: Go be poor somewhere else.

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2014-04-16 12:59:46 PM  
3 votes:

p51d007: I'd like to know where the 99%ers get off telling the 1%ers how to live their lives?
Why to "the rich" have to help "the poor"?  Life is hard, life has choices.  If you are
STUPID, a criminal, drug addict, etc, why is it the responsibility of someone else, to
take care of you?  In nature, the strong survive.  If government would get out of the
way and not punish religious organizations, perhaps we could put things back the
way they were 50 years ago and let THEM be the ones who were helping "the poor".
They could do that, instead of building monuments to themselves called megachurches!
Oh, we can't have RELIGIOUS people helping "the poor", it might turn them religious
and they wouldn't vote for idiots from the government to give them free stuff.
You know, when I was a kid, most "street people" were called BUMS.  Perhaps we'd be
all better off to stop calling them "homeless" and go back to calling most of them tramps
or bums!


If you read this in a Scrooge McDuck  voice, it's hilarious.
2014-04-16 12:51:02 PM  
3 votes:
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2014-04-16 12:33:08 PM  
3 votes:

bdub77: Can't we just set up the homeless in work-based communal housing? I believe work will set them free. This place looks legit:

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x330]


Wait wait... Arby's makes fries now?
2014-04-16 12:30:04 PM  
3 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.



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2014-04-16 11:12:37 AM  
3 votes:
Can't we just set up the homeless in work-based communal housing? I believe work will set them free. This place looks legit:

graphics8.nytimes.com
2014-04-16 01:47:13 PM  
2 votes:
After reading the thread, it is obvious that the government needs to gather up the homeless and distribute them evenly amongst the HOAs in the city. Then the farkers in this thread will get the new neighbors they love so much, while the people who don't appreciate what they have to offer will no longer have to deal with them. Everybody wins!
2014-04-16 01:33:22 PM  
2 votes:

Pangea: Well I'm no farking Republican, and they certainly didn't ask my opinion.


Congratulations, you don't understand statistics and polling.  Do you have any other lack-of-insights to share?

And I can't blame people for not wanting your opinion.
2014-04-16 01:19:30 PM  
2 votes:

PocketfullaSass: I park my old F-150 close to the sidewalk and always leave the doors unlocked. Nothing in it to steal, but I leave a travel pillow and a blanket folded up in case someone needs shelter. We don't have loads of homeless where I live, but there area few. Last week we had a cold snap and the blanket went missing. That's what it's there for. I'll replace it this weekend.


I was also hungry, so thanks for the gummybears in the glovebox.
2014-04-16 01:17:47 PM  
2 votes:
Homeless people are so analog.
2014-04-16 01:15:22 PM  
2 votes:
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2014-04-16 12:57:22 PM  
2 votes:
Well, in their car they feel safest of all. They can lock all their doors - it's the only way to live.
2014-04-16 12:43:31 PM  
2 votes:

reillan: bdub77: Can't we just set up the homeless in work-based communal housing? I believe work will set them free. This place looks legit:

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x330]

Wait wait... Arby's makes fries now?


Little known fact: Nazis originally invented the curly-fry potato machine and the strange quasi-cheese substance in Beef 'n' Cheddars, and set up Arby's as a front.  They made the whole thing a really bad trans-lingual pun, figuring Americans would be too stupid to get the joke.   It's pretty disturbing really... people know about the Nazis and Ford, or Nazis and IBM.  Few know the terrible secret behind Horsey Sauce.
2014-04-16 12:28:09 PM  
2 votes:
Why don't they pass a law that rich people can punch a poor person, but only if they give that $100 to another rich person?

It's that kind of circulation that will make our economy strong again.
2014-04-16 12:25:42 PM  
2 votes:

Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.


Especially if you have a refrigerator in it.
2014-04-16 12:25:08 PM  
2 votes:
i59.tinypic.com

Keep it up you greedy f*cking pigs.
2014-04-16 12:22:18 PM  
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: nekom: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.

So rather than solving the problem, let's just make sure we don't have to ever see it.

A homeless person is never really going to be able to afford an apartment in Silicon Valley, no matter how much the city hands out.

It's more humane to send them on to a lower rent area where they have an actual shot at getting off the street.


"I was walking behind this guy on the street; homeless dude comes up and asks him for some money. The guy goes, 'Why'ntcha get a job ya BUM?!' People always say that to homeless guys like it's so easy. This homeless guy was wearing his underwear outside his pants. OUTSIDE his pants. I'm guessing his resume ain't all up-to-date. I'm predicting some problems during the interview process. I'm pretty sure even McDonalds has a 'underwear goes inside the pants' policy."

// "Not that they enforce it really strictly, but technically, I'm sure it's on the books."
2014-04-16 12:21:40 PM  
2 votes:

SurfaceTension: Methadone Girls: Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.

Ok thanks for that brilliant insight.

I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to own a car and eat than pay rent AND own a car and eat

Depends on the car, and how often it needs repaired.

/former BMW owner


I didn't realize they were sleeping in beemers. Carry on then.

/They're so not sleeping in beemers
2014-04-16 12:18:24 PM  
2 votes:

Methadone Girls: Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.

Ok thanks for that brilliant insight.

I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to own a car and eat than pay rent AND own a car and eat


Depends on the car, and how often it needs repaired.

/former BMW owner
2014-04-16 11:17:49 AM  
2 votes:
Keep pushing and the homeless will just do home invasions on these rich people and live there as long as they can stand the smell of the rotting corpses of the previous occupants.
2014-04-16 03:56:19 PM  
1 votes:

Fusilier: bonobo73: The homeless deserve housing, food, and health care.

However, they smell, are annoying and are typically mentally instable, so not in Palo Alto, Menlo Park,or Los Altos, please, and especially not Atherton.   Maybe in East Palo Alto, Vallejo, or Oakland or hippy-dippy Santa Cruz.

Bakersfield


That's just cruel...
2014-04-16 03:52:13 PM  
1 votes:

bonobo73: The homeless deserve housing, food, and health care.

However, they smell, are annoying and are typically mentally instable, so not in Palo Alto, Menlo Park,or Los Altos, please, and especially not Atherton.   Maybe in East Palo Alto, Vallejo, or Oakland or hippy-dippy Santa Cruz.


Bakersfield
2014-04-16 03:20:34 PM  
1 votes:

JohnnyApocalypse: Having lived in my car in Palo Alto, I'm obligated to post something here. My circumstance was slightly different... I was (am) gainfully employed, but found myself in a situation where I didn't have housing. It was a strange feeling being between places. I couch surfed a little bit, but I felt uncomfortable being in other people's good graces and thought to myself I could just tough it out while waiting on the new place. What are you gonna do? Rent a hotel/motel room for a month while waiting for your new place to open up? A month is a long time to live on someone else's couch. Plus, where I worked they had pretty amenable facilities (bathroom with shower).

But I still had to worry about where I parked my car as not to arouse suspicion.

I've lived in the Silicon Valley all my life, and barring the traffic and hipsters, I love the place and have no desire to leave. But it can be very hard to afford to live here. I make good enough money that if I only had myself to worry about, I could easily rent a small place and maybe save up for home ownership... oh nevermind. I'll never be able to afford a home here unless I start earning six figures. Like the rest of the middle class home shoppers, I'll have to look over the hills outside of the valley to get a home.

But our homeless. What to say about the homeless here? Some are aggressive panhandlers, even in residential neighborhoods. Some are just your typical stinky and hopeless downtrodden folk. Some are grifters working the freeway exits and then getting picked up at the day's end. But there definitely more people who got economic-downturned. It's becoming a thing. Living in your car is a way to climb back out... pinching the pennies to keep from losing everything. I could have lived in a motel and racked up some significant debt, hoping to dig my way back out of that. Or I could have sucked it up and just overstayed my welcome at friends' houses (doing what I could to mitigate any resentment... chores around the hou ...


Palo Alto should also pass a law making it illegal to live in any dwelling that is worth less than 2.5 million.
2014-04-16 03:17:27 PM  
1 votes:

bunner: pedrop357: The moron I was replying to had a great idea to retrofit an unused building to serve as a housing solution

Thanks for letting the other shoe drop so loudly.  One more and you can dance with the mods, Demosthenes.


This is me making my scared face.
2014-04-16 03:05:34 PM  
1 votes:
I know how they feel - my GF had made do her in the butt last night, and I had to wash my cock off in the sink. It's not my fault she didn't feel like walking to the bathroom to get a nice warm cloth afterward. Sheesh! I felt taken advantage of. At least I got to admire my abs in the mirror.

*tooth sparkle"
2014-04-16 02:58:47 PM  
1 votes:

Wendy's Chili: pedrop357: Pangea: pedrop357: I'm also curious why people sleeping in their cars aren't being attacked by the left as freeloaders because they get police and fire protection without paying any property taxes.

The right is who typically would be more likely to do that sort of blaming.

Not true at all.  The left can be counted on to chime into any discussion about taxes with biatching about roads, schools, police, fire, and Somalia.

Those bastards! How dare they mention things paid for with taxes in discussions about taxes! Have they no shame?!


Yep, now if we could just get them to be consistent and rail against these people "leeching off the rest of us" the way they do with others, I'd be quiet about it.
2014-04-16 02:43:45 PM  
1 votes:

Pangea: LeroyBourne: armor helix: There are a lot of homeless shelters with empty rooms every night.

The reason? You have to be sober to use them.

If getting high is more important than a roof over your head that's your choice. But I don't want you sleeping in my dumpster.

One time my sister tried to give a hobo her left over Chinese food as her and her bf were walking home.  The guy had the balls to say, 'fark that, give me money'  He got nothing.

I offered a panhandler and actual handful of silver change...probably about $4 worth.

He said "I prefer paper."

He got neither.


Who ever said beggars can't be choosers?
2014-04-16 02:38:05 PM  
1 votes:

pedrop357: I'm also curious why people sleeping in their cars aren't being attacked by the left as freeloaders because they get police and fire protection without paying any property taxes.


The right is who typically would be more likely to do that sort of blaming.
2014-04-16 02:35:21 PM  
1 votes:

bunner: Let's say they used to make stuff there and now it's abandoned and some fat bastard is letting it rot because he wants 2,000,000.00 for something nobody has any use for anymore.Let's say we turn the water and electric on, do some buildouts, install about 40 sh*tters and showers, some security measure, windows and staff it with some unemployed folks with social services degrees.


Seems a lot like

meat0918: what Utah is doing


It gives them a real place to live, its cost effective, and satisfies NIMBYs.  Win-win-win.

I expect abound 50% of the US population to live in free government housing by 2030.  98% by 2050.
2014-04-16 02:32:57 PM  
1 votes:

LeroyBourne: armor helix: There are a lot of homeless shelters with empty rooms every night.

The reason? You have to be sober to use them.

If getting high is more important than a roof over your head that's your choice. But I don't want you sleeping in my dumpster.

One time my sister tried to give a hobo her left over Chinese food as her and her bf were walking home.  The guy had the balls to say, 'fark that, give me money'  He got nothing.


I offered a panhandler and actual handful of silver change...probably about $4 worth.

He said "I prefer paper."

He got neither.
2014-04-16 02:28:42 PM  
1 votes:

The_Hairy_Gooch: p51d007: I'd like to know where the 99%ers get off telling the 1%ers how to live their lives?
Why to "the rich" have to help "the poor"?  Life is hard, life has choices.  If you are
STUPID, a criminal, drug addict, etc, why is it the responsibility of someone else, to
take care of you?  In nature, the strong survive.  If government would get out of the
way and not punish religious organizations, perhaps we could put things back the
way they were 50 years ago and let THEM be the ones who were helping "the poor".
They could do that, instead of building monuments to themselves called megachurches!
Oh, we can't have RELIGIOUS people helping "the poor", it might turn them religious
and they wouldn't vote for idiots from the government to give them free stuff.
You know, when I was a kid, most "street people" were called BUMS.  Perhaps we'd be
all better off to stop calling them "homeless" and go back to calling most of them tramps
or bums!

HURUHURDUDUERUDURDRRRRRR! I HAZ A THOUGHTZ TOO GUYZ!!!
I'm pregnant Your attempt was bad, and you should feel bad


so 0 / 10 is now I'm pregnant.... cool!
2014-04-16 01:53:57 PM  
1 votes:
Many rich people get involved by starting a 170(b)(1)(a)(vi) charitable organization with a lofty sounding do-good name and nominating themselves to executive positions.
2014-04-16 01:40:44 PM  
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: EdNortonsTwin: A new thing in my area the past few weeks is the gas-station scam where someone asks for a couple bucks for gas "...to get home" .  First woman I gave a dollar - I watched her drive off w/o putting gas in her car.

Happened again a few days ago except it was a man who said he needed it to get home with his kids in the car.  He got 45 cents.  He also drove off w/o getting gas - I couldn't see kids through the tinted windows.

CSBooboo


Its a new thing because YOU just saw it, twice.


/We live in a narcissistic society


What I do, even if it's not true, I just yell out "MAAAAN I just gave you $2 last night!"  There's a good chance they were trying that shiat in that very area the night before and they do it so much they forget your face.
2014-04-16 01:37:16 PM  
1 votes:

meat0918: I wonder.  If each of the billionaires donated 1% of their wealth to helping address homelessness with some method other than relocating them, what would happen?


They would demand the treasury reimburse them and Wall St. would be shut down for a week and senators would harrumph until they sh*t in their pants.
2014-04-16 01:34:49 PM  
1 votes:

bunner: sendtodave: bunner:


While we're at it, define "away".


Not near me.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x294]

Good luck with that.


Australia still has room.  Ship the undesirables there, like in the old days.

Or, just build more prisons, whatever.  That's where we keep our poor.  Out of sight, out of mind, and we can rightfully blame them for being there, so no liberal guilt!
2014-04-16 01:31:35 PM  
1 votes:

DoctorCal: PocketfullaSass: I park my old F-150 close to the sidewalk and always leave the doors unlocked. Nothing in it to steal, but I leave a travel pillow and a blanket folded up in case someone needs shelter. We don't have loads of homeless where I live, but there area few. Last week we had a cold snap and the blanket went missing. That's what it's there for. I'll replace it this weekend.

I was also hungry, so thanks for the gummybears in the glovebox.


...would be 5 lbs of sugar-free gummy bears if found in my glovebox.
2014-04-16 01:26:41 PM  
1 votes:
It's not people living in the cars that is a problem, nor is it the cars, it's the wasted resources that a true fiefdom needs that is a problem. For example, I have several peasants residing in a few various American made automobiles, and I have assigned to them each, a small plot of land (parts of the east acreage adjacent to those nouveau riche neighbors) and they are expected to tend to it, and pay me a sum that is based on the per-existing taxes on that land. in return, I ensure that they will not be attacked by mercenaries (other than my own hirelings). In the long term, I will certainly sire more bastards and eventually, they will establish dominance over the serfs accordingly, and then by proxy will continue to maintain my will upon them as their overlord. There's no sense at all being upset about "homeless" living in "cars" if one sets out to make a positive change.
2014-04-16 01:25:00 PM  
1 votes:

Because People in power are Stupid: I don't understand. Why don't these homeless people just sleep in their parents guest homes?


Fitting handle for you, Mr. Romney.
2014-04-16 01:21:28 PM  
1 votes:

nekom: So rather than solving the problem, let's just make sure we don't have to ever see it.


The problem is that it isn't just one problem, making the solution considerably more challenging. I've got a solution, but it involves making me emperor for life.
2014-04-16 01:15:47 PM  
1 votes:
"We have, in this new, house of cards digital economy, made billions and billions of dollars with ostensibly free, dodgy services, things we get from China for about .002 on the dollar and lots of ads!"

"So now we can utilize all this capital to create and shape a vibrant, new America where there is true opportunity and access to a comfortable life?"


"No, you dipwad, we're gonna shove it up our asses and have pissing contests with our quarterly reports and buy egregiously expensive crap and set it on fire when we're bored."


"Sorry to hear."
2014-04-16 01:08:13 PM  
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: I'm pretty sure even McDonalds has a 'underwear goes inside the pants' policy."


Yeah, those guys are farking Nazis about it too.
2014-04-16 01:04:19 PM  
1 votes:
You would think those billionaires would understand the value homeless serve in keeping our society from rising up and killing them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpEBOavYqHQ    (some minor bad words)


www.kotzendes-einhorn.de
2014-04-16 12:59:59 PM  
1 votes:

ScaryBottles: AverageAmericanGuy: nekom: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.

So rather than solving the problem, let's just make sure we don't have to ever see it.

A homeless person is never really going to be able to afford an apartment in Silicon Valley, no matter how much the city hands out.

It's more humane to send them on to a lower rent area where they have an actual shot at getting off the street.
You know who else thought an unpopular minority should be relocated?



The US government?
2014-04-16 12:47:33 PM  
1 votes:

Shadi: FizixJunkee: graduates more STEM graduates than we have jobs for

jobs aren't a limited resource.


Demand that creates them, and capital that backs the industries that meet the demand, are.
2014-04-16 12:43:11 PM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: If you live in a car but have no job, Silicon Valley really isn't the place for you.

Unless you can marry a millionaire VC, that is.


Sure it is.  I ride BART to work and the programmers are just as stinky as the homeless.  Someone living in a car would fit in just fine.
2014-04-16 12:41:08 PM  
1 votes:
vpb [TotalFark]

First Debtors prison and now anti-vagrancy laws. I guess we'll bring back segregation next.

California democrats approve.
2014-04-16 12:29:33 PM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.


You don't have to own a car to sleep in one.
2014-04-16 12:26:45 PM  
1 votes:
Just invent an "appartment" that people can live in for free. It would probably only take a Hack Day or two.
2014-04-16 12:22:10 PM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.


Only if it has a tape deck...with a Creedence tape.
2014-04-16 12:21:21 PM  
1 votes:
Go be poor somewhere else.

www.wildwomanfundraising.com
2014-04-16 12:20:47 PM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: A homeless person is never really going to be able to afford an apartment in Silicon Valley


Exactly! Why don't these people just drive their cars to their vacation homes in Marin? Honestly, they are just being lazy?
2014-04-16 12:12:48 PM  
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.


Well, we should certainly restrict the rights of other human beings so the children of others don't feel momentarily uncomfortable.
2014-04-16 12:06:08 PM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.


Ok thanks for that brilliant insight.

I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to own a car and eat than pay rent AND own a car and eat
2014-04-16 11:27:02 AM  
1 votes:
If you can afford a car you're not poor.
2014-04-16 10:56:44 AM  
1 votes:
They might just use the car as a toilet and move on.
2014-04-16 10:39:41 AM  
1 votes:
They urinate in there!
 
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