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(Guardian)   Local billionaires think it's wrong that there are people who sleep in cars in Silicon Valley because they are homeless, and want to improve their quality of life   (theguardian.com) divider line 433
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2014-04-16 10:23:26 AM
If you live in a car but have no job, Silicon Valley really isn't the place for you.

Unless you can marry a millionaire VC, that is.
 
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2014-04-16 10:28:08 AM
First Debtors prison and now anti-vagrancy laws.  I guess we'll bring back segregation next.
 
2014-04-16 10:33:06 AM
That'll teach em
 
2014-04-16 10:39:41 AM
They urinate in there!
 
2014-04-16 10:56:44 AM
They might just use the car as a toilet and move on.
 
2014-04-16 11:03:44 AM
I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.
 
2014-04-16 11:12:37 AM
Can't we just set up the homeless in work-based communal housing? I believe work will set them free. This place looks legit:

graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2014-04-16 11:17:49 AM
Keep pushing and the homeless will just do home invasions on these rich people and live there as long as they can stand the smell of the rotting corpses of the previous occupants.
 
2014-04-16 11:26:03 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.


So rather than solving the problem, let's just make sure we don't have to ever see it.
 
2014-04-16 11:27:02 AM
If you can afford a car you're not poor.
 
2014-04-16 11:32:55 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.


Not sure if serious.
 
2014-04-16 11:36:01 AM

nekom: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.

So rather than solving the problem, let's just make sure we don't have to ever see it.


A homeless person is never really going to be able to afford an apartment in Silicon Valley, no matter how much the city hands out.

It's more humane to send them on to a lower rent area where they have an actual shot at getting off the street.
 
2014-04-16 11:54:00 AM
I don't understand. Why don't these homeless people just sleep in their parents guest homes?
 
2014-04-16 12:06:08 PM

Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.


Ok thanks for that brilliant insight.

I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to own a car and eat than pay rent AND own a car and eat
 
2014-04-16 12:12:48 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.


Well, we should certainly restrict the rights of other human beings so the children of others don't feel momentarily uncomfortable.
 
2014-04-16 12:17:00 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.


You are missing a good teaching moment here.  You can use the homeless as examples of what happen if you pursue degrees in the liberal arts.  Scare the little womprats into STEM.
 
2014-04-16 12:18:24 PM

Methadone Girls: Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.

Ok thanks for that brilliant insight.

I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to own a car and eat than pay rent AND own a car and eat


Depends on the car, and how often it needs repaired.

/former BMW owner
 
2014-04-16 12:19:24 PM

jwa007: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.

You are missing a good teaching moment here.  You can use the homeless as examples of what happen if you pursue degrees in the liberal arts.  Scare the little womprats into STEM.


Which won't bemuch help if we keep importing people who can be pressured to accept artificially low wages since their visa is tied to their employment (Which is BS, since it gives an employer INSANE extra leverage that they do not have over an american citizen).
 
2014-04-16 12:20:47 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: A homeless person is never really going to be able to afford an apartment in Silicon Valley


Exactly! Why don't these people just drive their cars to their vacation homes in Marin? Honestly, they are just being lazy?
 
2014-04-16 12:21:21 PM
Go be poor somewhere else.

www.wildwomanfundraising.com
 
2014-04-16 12:21:40 PM

SurfaceTension: Methadone Girls: Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.

Ok thanks for that brilliant insight.

I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to own a car and eat than pay rent AND own a car and eat

Depends on the car, and how often it needs repaired.

/former BMW owner


I didn't realize they were sleeping in beemers. Carry on then.

/They're so not sleeping in beemers
 
2014-04-16 12:22:10 PM

Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.


Only if it has a tape deck...with a Creedence tape.
 
2014-04-16 12:22:18 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: nekom: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.

So rather than solving the problem, let's just make sure we don't have to ever see it.

A homeless person is never really going to be able to afford an apartment in Silicon Valley, no matter how much the city hands out.

It's more humane to send them on to a lower rent area where they have an actual shot at getting off the street.


"I was walking behind this guy on the street; homeless dude comes up and asks him for some money. The guy goes, 'Why'ntcha get a job ya BUM?!' People always say that to homeless guys like it's so easy. This homeless guy was wearing his underwear outside his pants. OUTSIDE his pants. I'm guessing his resume ain't all up-to-date. I'm predicting some problems during the interview process. I'm pretty sure even McDonalds has a 'underwear goes inside the pants' policy."

// "Not that they enforce it really strictly, but technically, I'm sure it's on the books."
 
2014-04-16 12:22:29 PM
images.amcnetworks.com

Understand their plight.
 
2014-04-16 12:22:33 PM
I usually expect one of two things from a Fark headline:

1. The headline should make me laugh; or
2. The headline should succinctly disclose the gist of an article I'm too lazy to click on and read.

Subby's headline did neither.
 
2014-04-16 12:22:46 PM
Why don't they just move their cars to a 24-hour Walmart?  Walmart parking lots are very accommodating of people sleeping in cars.

/I'm 100% serious, it's an option
 
2014-04-16 12:23:49 PM
Build them a parking garage?
 
2014-04-16 12:23:50 PM
Moraga was all about having galas to raise money for bum shelters..
until someone suggested building it near them..
then they went berzerk
 
2014-04-16 12:24:04 PM

jwa007: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.

You are missing a good teaching moment here.  You can use the homeless as examples of what happen if you pursue degrees in the liberal arts.  Scare the little womprats into STEM.


I'm working with a guy who has his degree in Mechanical Engineering. He has years of experience under his belt, a hard worker, very friendly guy with a good professional attitude. He just got this job after being unemployed for almost a year. A year of constantly hitting the pavement looking for work. I have my dumb little BS in History but I've never been unemployed with this degree. Never. And now we have this nice job that pays well but ya know, we both get paid the same and neither of us is using our degrees here.
 
2014-04-16 12:24:40 PM
Hmmm.

I wonder how many of the car dwellers work there?
 
2014-04-16 12:25:08 PM
i59.tinypic.com

Keep it up you greedy f*cking pigs.
 
2014-04-16 12:25:42 PM

Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.


Especially if you have a refrigerator in it.
 
2014-04-16 12:26:41 PM
Err BA in history that is. Meh.
 
2014-04-16 12:26:45 PM
Just invent an "appartment" that people can live in for free. It would probably only take a Hack Day or two.
 
2014-04-16 12:26:51 PM

UberDave: Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.

Only if it has a tape deck...with a Creedence tape.


They don't want to be stuck in Lodi again.
 
2014-04-16 12:27:21 PM

jwa007: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.

You are missing a good teaching moment here.  You can use the homeless as examples of what happen if you pursue degrees in the liberal arts.   Scare the little womprats into STEM.



You know the U.S. already graduates more STEM graduates than we have jobs for, right?

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/03/inquiring-minds-ethan -p erlstein-postdocalypse?fb_action_ids=692395314158529&fb_action_types=o g.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

Quote:
"You've probably heard the claim that the United States needs to produce  morescientists, like Perlstein, to remain competitive with up-and-coming science powerhouses like India and China. It is a familiar litany whenever we hear laments about American science and its disturbing habit of resting on its laurels. But what you rarely hear in this argument is the fact that we don't have nearly enough jobs to put to work the scientists we currently have. "U.S. higher education produces far more science and engineering graduates annually than there are S&E job openings," writes Harvard researcher  , "the only disagreement is whether it is 100 percent or 200 percent more.""
 
2014-04-16 12:27:50 PM
Didn't read the article (like any good farker) but saw the picture of skid row and was like, "I've been there."  It was interesting (not quite the right word) to see the disparity between homeless living on the street and the next street over is where the $$ lives and they passed an ordinance (law?) that no one can sleep on the streets past x street.  Sad all the way around. :(
 
2014-04-16 12:28:04 PM
Diogenes

If you can afford a car you're not poor.


You obviously haven't looks at rent/home prices in Silicon Valley.
 
2014-04-16 12:28:09 PM
Why don't they pass a law that rich people can punch a poor person, but only if they give that $100 to another rich person?

It's that kind of circulation that will make our economy strong again.
 
2014-04-16 12:29:33 PM

Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.


You don't have to own a car to sleep in one.
 
2014-04-16 12:29:35 PM
 
2014-04-16 12:30:04 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.



img.fark.net
 
2014-04-16 12:30:34 PM
I'm no billionaire and I don't want people sleeping in cars in front of my house.

Having said that, I continually see the same "stranded" family in my town panhandling.  Their "stranded" sign is so old it has folds in it.  I see plenty of people giving them money and I'm pretty sure they aren't actually stranded.

RumsfeldsReplacement: Why don't they just move their cars to a 24-hour Walmart?  Walmart parking lots are very accommodating of people sleeping in cars.

/I'm 100% serious, it's an option


This.
 
2014-04-16 12:31:46 PM
I hear that California is super cool to the homeless. Especially the city of Santa Monica.

Am I to believe this is not true now? What about Redwood? Or Del Ray?
 
2014-04-16 12:31:46 PM

Diogenes: If you can afford a car you're not poor.


Put a lot of thought into that statement, eh?
 
2014-04-16 12:32:30 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: nekom: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I don't see this as a 1% problem. Homeless people on the street just bother the us 95% ers that have to walk our kids to school because the pan handlers creep the kids out.

So rather than solving the problem, let's just make sure we don't have to ever see it.

A homeless person is never really going to be able to afford an apartment in Silicon Valley, no matter how much the city hands out.

It's more humane to send them on to a lower rent area where they have an actual shot at getting off the street.

You know who else thought an unpopular minority should be relocated?

Its really so seldom someone actually says something dumb enough to legitimately earn a proper Godwin.....
 
2014-04-16 12:33:08 PM

bdub77: Can't we just set up the homeless in work-based communal housing? I believe work will set them free. This place looks legit:

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x330]


Wait wait... Arby's makes fries now?
 
2014-04-16 12:34:32 PM
Stay out of Eugene please.

Attempt no landing here, the goodwill has dried up, and the citizenry are tired of the homeless and the homeless advocates trying to get the city to lift the camping ban in public parks.

I feel for the homeless, and hope they can utilize the many public and private programs we have available to get back on their feet.  The chronic homeless, they have help available if they can actually decide to use it.  Not sure if that is possible for some of the ones with the really bad mental issues, but what can be done for them within the bounds of the law?

I'm actually for what Utah is doing being implemented in Oregon, but I doubt I'd have many supporters.
 
2014-04-16 12:34:37 PM
1. There will always be unsympathetic douchebags, not the real case.
2. The "anti-homeless" laws being passed are pushed by people profiting from control, misery, and incarceration in a for-profit jail system, still can't believe this issue isn't even discussed especially when we hold the WORLD'S largest inmate population.
3. People are myopic cretins, NIMBY.
 
2014-04-16 12:35:46 PM
Dear filthy rich idiots,

Start returning some of your pelf back into the economy at someplace besides Neiman Marcus and people wont have to live in their cars.


Economies  *  are  *  wealth redistribution, you doltish twats.


Grow up and let some of the other kids play.  They ain't gonna put it in the casket.  No, seriously.  They ain't.
 
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