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2014-04-16 10:40:00 AM
First, yes. It's not good that 12 year olds are getting pregnant and giving birth. It introduces a variable into her life that can only be a detriment in the overall scheme of things.

That said, once the decision is made that she's going to carry the baby to term, there should be some level of acceptance and forgiveness towards her. Disowning her isn't going to help her, and neither is punishing the baby who is truly innocent and doesn't deserve the anger that many would have for it in this situation.

Ideally, she'd give the baby up for adoption, to be raised by a family that truly wanted a baby. But knowing this is the Mirror, the girl will probably drop out of school, become a chav, and end up finding a way to have 7 more babies by the time she turns 18.
 
2014-04-16 11:08:59 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: That said, once the decision is made that she's going to carry the baby to term, there should be some level of acceptance and forgiveness towards her. Disowning her isn't going to help her, and neither is punishing the baby who is truly innocent and doesn't deserve the anger that many would have for it in this situation.


You can have acceptance and forgiveness.  But being "proud" of her shouldn't be on the table.  The proper term should be disappointment.
 
2014-04-16 11:11:47 AM

BizarreMan: AverageAmericanGuy: That said, once the decision is made that she's going to carry the baby to term, there should be some level of acceptance and forgiveness towards her. Disowning her isn't going to help her, and neither is punishing the baby who is truly innocent and doesn't deserve the anger that many would have for it in this situation.

You can have acceptance and forgiveness.  But being "proud" of her shouldn't be on the table.  The proper term should be disappointment.


The baby isn't going to disappear just because you wish it to. How long should the father hold the grudge against his daughter? Because what you're suggesting is that she will always be a disappointment to him for the rest of his life.

Your point lacks the compassion necessary to live harmoniously in a family.
 
2014-04-16 11:52:13 AM
no it's totally true, i saw it on jerry springer

guys


guys....
 
2014-04-16 11:54:35 AM
Well, is she hot?
 
2014-04-16 11:56:06 AM
Clearly the first time in history a 12 year old had a baby.

/is it ideal? Obviously not, but the world isn't going to end, it's not a big deal
 
2014-04-16 11:57:26 AM
Her mom was 15 when she had her. (27 yr old grand mum). So maybe she learned something at home?
 
2014-04-16 11:58:44 AM
What does Aunt Mom think of this?
 
2014-04-16 11:58:57 AM
Subby just mad that a 13yo has had more sex than subby will ever have.
 
2014-04-16 12:01:13 PM

Semper IvXx: Clearly the first time in history a 12 year old had a baby.

/is it ideal? Obviously not, but the world isn't going to end, it's not a big deal


I agree, I like strippers too.
 
2014-04-16 12:01:35 PM
Well, since he said no one realized she was pregnant until she was 8 months pregnant, what exactly is he supposed to do?

He said he was disappointed in the situation, but that baby is coming no matter what.  Might as well give it a decent chance by loving it and his daughter than kicking them out.  (And supporting it, because you know the new mother can't afford a baby.)
 
2014-04-16 12:04:22 PM

labman: Well, since he said no one realized she was pregnant until she was 8 months pregnant, what exactly is he supposed to do?

He said he was disappointed in the situation, but that baby is coming no matter what.  Might as well give it a decent chance by loving it and his daughter than kicking them out.  (And supporting it, because you know the new mother can't afford a baby.)


This. although I would probably feel like a complete failure as a parent if my child had sex let alone became impregnated and didn't know to get an abortion. Just another reason I an on giving my daughter a vaccine against pregnancy when she starts her period
 
2014-04-16 12:06:13 PM

duke3522: Subby just mad that a 13yo has had more sex than subby will ever have.


I think subby is just subby because subby is more subby than subby.
 
2014-04-16 12:06:19 PM
Their household income doubled when the welfare checks began coming in.
 
2014-04-16 12:06:21 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: BizarreMan: AverageAmericanGuy: That said, once the decision is made that she's going to carry the baby to term, there should be some level of acceptance and forgiveness towards her. Disowning her isn't going to help her, and neither is punishing the baby who is truly innocent and doesn't deserve the anger that many would have for it in this situation.

You can have acceptance and forgiveness.  But being "proud" of her shouldn't be on the table.  The proper term should be disappointment.

The baby isn't going to disappear just because you wish it to. How long should the father hold the grudge against his daughter? Because what you're suggesting is that she will always be a disappointment to him for the rest of his life.

Your point lacks the compassion necessary to live harmoniously in a family.


Yep. You can (and should, if you can) help a member of your family when they have a bad situation (even if they brought it upon themselves), but if you try to bring up their mistakes and faults every chance you get, you will only create an acrimonious atmosphere that makes the whole situation worse for everyone. Especially the baby.
 
2014-04-16 12:07:19 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: BizarreMan: AverageAmericanGuy: That said, once the decision is made that she's going to carry the baby to term, there should be some level of acceptance and forgiveness towards her. Disowning her isn't going to help her, and neither is punishing the baby who is truly innocent and doesn't deserve the anger that many would have for it in this situation.

You can have acceptance and forgiveness.  But being "proud" of her shouldn't be on the table.  The proper term should be disappointment.

The baby isn't going to disappear just because you wish it to. How long should the father hold the grudge against his daughter? Because what you're suggesting is that she will always be a disappointment to him for the rest of his life.

Your point lacks the compassion necessary to live harmoniously in a family.


Publicly broadcasting your PRIDE in the situation like it's a good and fortunate thing is not at all the same as simply refusing to hold a grudge...although it seems like dad may have just been overstating his position to defend his daughter from public shaming by the DJ (I'm at work, can't really listen to the clip...)
 
2014-04-16 12:09:03 PM
At least the editors at the Mirror resisted the temptation to refer to the 12-year-old mom as a "hottie."
 
2014-04-16 12:09:06 PM
"...but daddy says I'm the best."
 
2014-04-16 12:10:51 PM

BigNumber12: Well, is she hot?


the 12 year old or the baby?
 
2014-04-16 12:13:17 PM
What the hell do they think this is? The Middle Ages?
 
2014-04-16 12:15:35 PM
...only the jack-knife barber knows what REALLY happened...
 
2014-04-16 12:15:45 PM

Prey4reign: At least the editors at the Mirror resisted the temptation to refer to the 12-year-old mom as a "hottie."


I'm surprised they restrained themselves on saying "baby bump." That term makes me stabby
 
2014-04-16 12:15:49 PM
Poor little baby didn't ask to be born into this stupid family.  Definitely not a "beautiful" thing, low birth rates or not.
 
2014-04-16 12:16:00 PM

ace in your face: labman: Well, since he said no one realized she was pregnant until she was 8 months pregnant, what exactly is he supposed to do?

He said he was disappointed in the situation, but that baby is coming no matter what.  Might as well give it a decent chance by loving it and his daughter than kicking them out.  (And supporting it, because you know the new mother can't afford a baby.)

This. although I would probably feel like a complete failure as a parent if my child had sex let alone became impregnated and didn't know to get an abortion. Just another reason I an on giving my daughter a vaccine against pregnancy when she starts her period


So because proper education would be to difficult for you and your kids, you'll fill her body up with chemicals and let her go out and expose herself to risk of STDs. Give me a break. Another pass the buck parenting decision. You must live in Alabama.
 
2014-04-16 12:19:01 PM
Sad.
 
2014-04-16 12:19:44 PM
This story is baloney. It did not happen. Here is why I am running up the bullshiat flag.

1. A 12 year old girl already had menapse?
2. A 13 year old boy already knows what to do? Many 13 year olds still think girls have cooties.
3. It was printed in a British tabloid. They make up sensational stories all the time
 
2014-04-16 12:22:18 PM
Old enough to bleed...
Or,
Eight to eighty....

Yeah, my adolescent years were not spent learning moral parables.


/dnrtfa
 
2014-04-16 12:24:37 PM

macdaddy357: This story is baloney. It did not happen. Here is why I am running up the bullshiat flag.

1. A 12 year old girl already had menapse?
2. A 13 year old boy already knows what to do? Many 13 year olds still think girls have cooties.
3. It was printed in a British tabloid. They make up sensational stories all the time


1. I got my first period when was 10. 12 is not too young, not by any stretch of the imagination.
2. If a 13-year-old boy can get an erection, he can stick it in something.  He might not understand entirely the ramifications of what he's doing, but since most teenage boys know how to find porn on the Internet, it's highly likely he knew enough to knock the girl up.
3. While I agree The Sun and other similar publications are noted for their telling of tale tales, at this one is plausible.
 
2014-04-16 12:27:30 PM

macdaddy357: 1. A 12 year old girl already had menapse?


I assume you mean "menarche", and 12-13 is the average age for it.
 
2014-04-16 12:29:32 PM
From TFA:
"The world's youngest mum was Lina Medina from Ticrapo, Peru, who gave birth to son Gerardo when she was just five years and seven months "


 . . . I think I'm going to be sick . . .
 
2014-04-16 12:29:48 PM

PreMortem: Old enough to bleed...
Or,
Eight to eighty....

Yeah, my adolescent years were not spent learning moral parables.


/dnrtfa


i62.tinypic.com
 
2014-04-16 12:30:23 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: First, yes. It's not good that 12 year olds are getting pregnant and giving birth. It introduces a variable into her life that can only be a detriment in the overall scheme of things.

That said, once the decision is made that she's going to carry the baby to term, there should be some level of acceptance and forgiveness towards her. Disowning her isn't going to help her, and neither is punishing the baby who is truly innocent and doesn't deserve the anger that many would have for it in this situation.

Ideally, she'd give the baby up for adoption, to be raised by a family that truly wanted a baby. But knowing this is the Mirror, the girl will probably drop out of school, become a chav, and end up finding a way to have 7 more babies by the time she turns 18.


Oh, the U.K.'s version of "People of Walmart"?
 
2014-04-16 12:33:27 PM

macdaddy357: This story is baloney. It did not happen. Here is why I am running up the bullshiat flag.

1. A 12 year old girl already had menapse?
2. A 13 year old boy already knows what to do? Many 13 year olds still think girls have cooties.
3. It was printed in a British tabloid. They make up sensational stories all the time


Work the ER at any Charity Hospital in the US and you will see 12 y/o pregnant girls a couple of times a month.

Sadly too common.
 
2014-04-16 12:36:02 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Because what you're suggesting is that she will always be a disappointment to him for the rest of his life.


She probably will be. This is most likely just one of a lifetime of stupid choices.
 
2014-04-16 12:36:26 PM
I hate pikeys.
 
2014-04-16 12:37:18 PM

Loaf's Tray: AverageAmericanGuy: BizarreMan: AverageAmericanGuy: That said, once the decision is made that she's going to carry the baby to term, there should be some level of acceptance and forgiveness towards her. Disowning her isn't going to help her, and neither is punishing the baby who is truly innocent and doesn't deserve the anger that many would have for it in this situation.

You can have acceptance and forgiveness.  But being "proud" of her shouldn't be on the table.  The proper term should be disappointment.

The baby isn't going to disappear just because you wish it to. How long should the father hold the grudge against his daughter? Because what you're suggesting is that she will always be a disappointment to him for the rest of his life.

Your point lacks the compassion necessary to live harmoniously in a family.

Publicly broadcasting your PRIDE in the situation like it's a good and fortunate thing is not at all the same as simply refusing to hold a grudge...although it seems like dad may have just been overstating his position to defend his daughter from public shaming by the DJ (I'm at work, can't really listen to the clip...)


Some of this(or lot of this).  Acceptance and forgiveness is enough to mean, no grudge and we will work on this together, as oppose to the extremes of either shaming and screaming at her for the rest of her life, or announcing to the world how your little girl is the greatest little mum.  Announcing pride, takes it to Mama June level of crazy.  I can see how dad(new grandpa) would want to get the public outcry to quiet down, so they can move on with their lives.  And I do hope little daddy stays with the situation, and not run like a coward.
 
2014-04-16 12:39:11 PM

shifter_: You must live in Alabama.


Surprisingly enough, Alabama isn't the most ass-backwards state in the country.  I know that doesn't fit with your anti-Alabama agenda, but it's a fact.  According to figures from 2010, Washington D.C. had a higher teen pregnancy rate than Alabama, as did several other states.  I think Alabama gets an unfair rap on the whole "you're retarded, you must live in 'Bama" tip.  Most of the people I know from Alabama are college graduates with successful careers.

/doesn't live in Alabama
 
2014-04-16 12:42:49 PM
Greg admitted that he was heartbroken by the situation, insisting that he did not know his daughter was sexually active, aged 11. He said: "It is heartbreaking, but you can't turn back time. You can only go forwards.

"We don't know where it happened. What you're implying is that we knew they were having intercourse in bedrooms. No.

"We cannot keep her wrapped up her whole life. I can't keep a watch on her 24-hours a day, seven days a week. You don't know what has gone on and once the mistake has been made, you just have to support them."


What a poor excuse for a parent. He should have known his daughter was having periods, and should've made sure she was educated about birth control. He's also an idiot for allowing his daughter to spend time with older boys, unsupervised. 11 is MUCH too young for dating.
 
2014-04-16 12:45:17 PM

shifter_: ace in your face: labman: Well, since he said no one realized she was pregnant until she was 8 months pregnant, what exactly is he supposed to do?

He said he was disappointed in the situation, but that baby is coming no matter what.  Might as well give it a decent chance by loving it and his daughter than kicking them out.  (And supporting it, because you know the new mother can't afford a baby.)

This. although I would probably feel like a complete failure as a parent if my child had sex let alone became impregnated and didn't know to get an abortion. Just another reason I an on giving my daughter a vaccine against pregnancy when she starts her period

So because proper education would be to difficult for you and your kids, you'll fill her body up with chemicals and let her go out and expose herself to risk of STDs. Give me a break. Another pass the buck parenting decision. You must live in Alabama.


Ok crazy person, that's exactly what I said. I hope your children are blessed with your reading comprehension.
 
2014-04-16 12:45:55 PM

Farce-Side: shifter_: You must live in Alabama.

Surprisingly enough, Alabama isn't the most ass-backwards state in the country.  I know that doesn't fit with your anti-Alabama agenda, but it's a fact.  According to figures from 2010, Washington D.C. had a higher teen pregnancy rate than Alabama, as did several other states.  I think Alabama gets an unfair rap on the whole "you're retarded, you must live in 'Bama" tip.  Most of the people I know from Alabama are college graduates with successful careers.

/doesn't live in Alabama


I did see one of them up here yesterday.  They had 'Roll Tide' displayed across the back glass of his Chevy truck.
 
2014-04-16 12:46:35 PM
So Maury is calling these people right now for DNA testing....
 
2014-04-16 12:46:50 PM

BigNumber12: Well, is she hot?



This is what I'd like to know.
 
2014-04-16 12:49:18 PM

LoneCraneFullMoon: BigNumber12: Well, is she hot?


This is what I'd like to know.


Hot enough for a 12 year old boy.  Then again, at that age it doesn't take much.
 
2014-04-16 12:49:25 PM

Lorelle: Greg admitted that he was heartbroken by the situation, insisting that he did not know his daughter was sexually active, aged 11. He said: "It is heartbreaking, but you can't turn back time. You can only go forwards.

"We don't know where it happened. What you're implying is that we knew they were having intercourse in bedrooms. No.

"We cannot keep her wrapped up her whole life. I can't keep a watch on her 24-hours a day, seven days a week. You don't know what has gone on and once the mistake has been made, you just have to support them."

What a poor excuse for a parent. He should have known his daughter was having periods, and should've made sure she was educated about birth control. He's also an idiot for allowing his daughter to spend time with older boys, unsupervised. 11 is MUCH too young for dating.


He was thinking of her as an investment. The more kids she squeezes out the better the welfare check. Dad is an idiot. Daughter is a tramp. The baby will be ruined by them. Wait 14 years and it will mom/dad also. They ain't nothing but trash.
 
2014-04-16 12:49:28 PM

lack of warmth: Farce-Side: shifter_: You must live in Alabama.

Surprisingly enough, Alabama isn't the most ass-backwards state in the country.  I know that doesn't fit with your anti-Alabama agenda, but it's a fact.  According to figures from 2010, Washington D.C. had a higher teen pregnancy rate than Alabama, as did several other states.  I think Alabama gets an unfair rap on the whole "you're retarded, you must live in 'Bama" tip.  Most of the people I know from Alabama are college graduates with successful careers.

/doesn't live in Alabama

I did see one of them up here yesterday.  They had 'Roll Tide' displayed across the back glass of his Chevy truck.


That doesn't necessarily mean they're from Alabama.  That just means they celebrate sub standard education, and quite possibly, band-wagon jumping.
 
2014-04-16 12:52:11 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: First, yes. It's not good that 12 year olds are getting pregnant and giving birth. It introduces a variable into her life that can only be a detriment in the overall scheme of things.

That said, once the decision is made that she's going to carry the baby to term, there should be some level of acceptance and forgiveness towards her. Disowning her isn't going to help her, and neither is punishing the baby who is truly innocent and doesn't deserve the anger that many would have for it in this situation.

Ideally, she'd give the baby up for adoption, to be raised by a family that truly wanted a baby. But knowing this is the Mirror, the girl will probably drop out of school, become a chav, and end up finding a way to have 7 more babies by the time she turns 18.


Well what if the kid is the anti-christ? What then? Not so innocent now, is it smart guy?
 
2014-04-16 12:52:43 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: But knowing this is the Mirror


... the whole thing is fake and your post is irrelevant.
 
2014-04-16 12:54:44 PM

macdaddy357: This story is baloney. It did not happen. Here is why I am running up the bullshiat flag.

1. A 12 year old girl already had menapse?
2. A 13 year old boy already knows what to do? Many 13 year olds still think girls have cooties.
3. It was printed in a British tabloid. They make up sensational stories all the time


Are you a 6 year old, or do you just not understand biology?
 
2014-04-16 12:56:54 PM

Another Government Employee: macdaddy357: This story is baloney. It did not happen. Here is why I am running up the bullshiat flag.

1. A 12 year old girl already had menapse?
2. A 13 year old boy already knows what to do? Many 13 year olds still think girls have cooties.
3. It was printed in a British tabloid. They make up sensational stories all the time

Work the ER at any Charity Hospital in the US and you will see 12 y/o pregnant girls a couple of times a month.

Sadly too common


That's horrific; I would become desensitized after a while and start looking at humans as merely stupid livestock.
 
2014-04-16 12:58:51 PM
Proud of her bravery maybe? Proud she didn't kill* it?
*subject to opinion

/17 and pregnant
//my dad is proud of me
///I'm pissed at him for it
 
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