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(National Review)   The National Review has decided that Cliven Bundy is a super callous, fragile rancher, hexed by seditious notions   (nationalreview.com) divider line 410
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2014-04-16 07:54:48 AM  
...what in the chocolate covered f*ck is this asshattery?

He has been in violation of the law for 20 years. This isn't about Obama, but about a pattern of dodging grazing fees and more, and tying up the courts with what amounts to business practices that use public resources that he refuses to pay for, unlike his competition, that he is more than happy to game. Worse, he's put folks in danger with a situation that put folks in danger looking to defend his asshattery. He's not a hero. He's not a Brave Pioneer. He's a moocher who wants folks to approve of his idiocy, because...reasons. And he's going to wind up getting boned in the courts, most probably arrested, and fleeced for his asshattery, and destruction of public property, and when the bill comes due, he's going to wail about he's the victim for his own damn stupidity.

NRO has really gone in the tank for idiots...
 
2014-04-16 08:11:47 AM  

hubiestubert: ...what in the chocolate covered f*ck is this asshattery?

He has been in violation of the law for 20 years. This isn't about Obama, but about a pattern of dodging grazing fees and more, and tying up the courts with what amounts to business practices that use public resources that he refuses to pay for, unlike his competition, that he is more than happy to game. Worse, he's put folks in danger with a situation that put folks in danger looking to defend his asshattery. He's not a hero. He's not a Brave Pioneer. He's a moocher who wants folks to approve of his idiocy, because...reasons. And he's going to wind up getting boned in the courts, most probably arrested, and fleeced for his asshattery, and destruction of public property, and when the bill comes due, he's going to wail about he's the victim for his own damn stupidity.

NRO has really gone in the tank for idiots...


They were at some point not in the tank for idiots?
 
2014-04-16 08:13:46 AM  
www.rawstory.com

bout three inches of dick in this entire picture

and it's all hard
 
2014-04-16 08:14:22 AM  
yeah i got my desert camo spanx top on
 
2014-04-16 08:15:20 AM  
Is subby trying to get all Mary Poppinsy with that headline?

This Bundy thing is going to get worse, much worse, with all the groups taking sides.
 
2014-04-16 08:19:00 AM  
...it is the government that exists at the sufferance of the people, including such irascible ones as Mr. Bundy, not the other way around.

...a little sedition is an excellent thing.



Now I'm curious what this author's opinion of the Occupy movement was. Or of those anarchists who smash windows when there's a G8 meeting in town.
 
2014-04-16 08:20:04 AM  
...a little sedition is an excellent thing.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-16 08:21:25 AM  
hubiestubert:

He has been in violation of the law for 20 years. This isn't about Obama, but about a pattern of dodging grazing fees and more, and tying up the courts with what amounts to business practices that use public resources that he refuses to pay for, unlike his competition, that he is more than happy to game. Worse, he's put folks in danger with a situation that put folks in danger looking to defend his asshattery. He's not a hero. He's not a Brave Pioneer. He's a moocher who wants folks to approve of his idiocy, because...reasons. And he's going to wind up getting boned in the courts, most probably arrested, and fleeced for his asshattery, and destruction of public property, and when the bill comes due, he's going to wail about he's the victim for his own damn stupidity.

It's not welfare when they get it.
 
2014-04-16 08:23:11 AM  

Jackson Herring: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

bout three inches of dick in this entire picture

and it's all hard


Is that loser in the plaid pajamas actually carrying a gun?

How does he not realize it clashes horribly with his outfit?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-16 08:23:16 AM  
JoieD'Zen:

This Bundy thing is going to get worse, much worse, with all the groups taking sides.

Yes, it's going to encourage other whack-jobs if he is perceived as getting away with it.
 
2014-04-16 08:26:49 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Jackson Herring: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

bout three inches of dick in this entire picture

and it's all hard

Is that loser in the plaid pajamas actually carrying a gun?

How does he not realize it clashes horribly with his outfit?


i wonder what rob dyrdek on the right there is packing
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-16 08:27:40 AM  

Jackson Herring: ...a little sedition is an excellent thing.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 477x600]


I'm sure that illegal welfare queens who threaten to kill people if they can't suckle from the public teat is exactly what John Adams had in mind, and he wasn't referring about the situation with Britain at all.
 
2014-04-16 08:28:30 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Jackson Herring: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

bout three inches of dick in this entire picture

and it's all hard

Is that loser in the plaid pajamas actually carrying a gun?

How does he not realize it clashes horribly with his outfit?


Manly men embrace the clashing of plaids.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-16 08:31:54 AM  

Jackson Herring: Marcus Aurelius: Jackson Herring: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

bout three inches of dick in this entire picture
...


A nine millimeter.
 
2014-04-16 08:39:22 AM  

JoieD'Zen: Is subby trying to get all Mary Poppinsy with that headline?


Or it was a mockery of the old "dad" joke about how Gandhi was a supercallousfragilemystichexedbyhalitosis
 
2014-04-16 08:42:18 AM  
This is whole situation leaves me speechless.  All I can say is the Right Wing Noise Machine certainly isn't discriminating or picky when selecting their heroes.

How disgusting.
 
2014-04-16 08:55:21 AM  
Well I've been looking for a different take on this story, because throughout the versions I've read in regular news it seems like Bundy turned a political disagreement into a decades-long squatting scam.  So I did what I pretty much never do and clicked a NRO link.  From that:
1. I see that even the NRO thinks Cliven Bundy is a nutcase
2. The civil disobedience is still disobedience argument does apply well
3. The author's point suffers on three fronts, IMHO
    a.  Cliven Bundy has been skipping his grazing fees in a for-profit business, not as part of some grand civil-rights measure; comparing him to Washington is sorta iffy and Ghandi is right out.
    b.  The passage "Surely not every inch of that 87 percent of Nevada under the absentee-landlordship of the federal government is critical to the national interest. Perhaps Mr. Bundy would like to buy some land where he can graze his cattle." assumes that BLM is in fact absent in its duties, and that Bundy has shown any inclination to pay for anything in a long, long time.

But I will give Mr. Williamson credit for not lobbing an all-out derp storm.
 
2014-04-16 09:01:07 AM  

factoryconnection: 2. The civil disobedience is still disobedience argument does apply well


Civil disobedience usually doesn't include pointing guns at your "oppressors", either. A few weeks ago, you could call it civil disobedience, but now it's just a minor rebellion.
 
2014-04-16 09:02:51 AM  
That headline is really quite atrocious.

/Really?  I'm the first one?
 
2014-04-16 09:03:18 AM  

hubiestubert: ...what in the chocolate covered f*ck is this asshattery?

He has been in violation of the law for 20 years. This isn't about Obama, but about a pattern of dodging grazing fees and more, and tying up the courts with what amounts to business practices that use public resources that he refuses to pay for, unlike his competition, that he is more than happy to game. Worse, he's put folks in danger with a situation that put folks in danger looking to defend his asshattery. He's not a hero. He's not a Brave Pioneer. He's a moocher who wants folks to approve of his idiocy, because...reasons. And he's going to wind up getting boned in the courts, most probably arrested, and fleeced for his asshattery, and destruction of public property, and when the bill comes due, he's going to wail about he's the victim for his own damn stupidity.

NRO has really gone in the tank for idiots...


Add to that his is the only ranch in the area that has been able to stay in business, likely due to to the fact that he's been ignoring the $50,000 a year in grazing fees and they weren't.
 
2014-04-16 09:03:43 AM  

factoryconnection: But I will give Mr. Williamson credit for not lobbing an all-out derp storm.


You have a higher pain threshold than I do.  I started to mentally bail out at Gandhi, but totally gave up in anguish after:

But not all dissidents are content to submit to what we, in the Age of Obama, still insist on quaintly calling "the rule of law."
 
2014-04-16 09:04:04 AM  

Jackson Herring: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

bout three inches of dick in this entire picture

and it's all hard


*TWEET*

Markley's Law violation.  Fifteen yard penalty and automatic loss of argument.
 
2014-04-16 09:04:16 AM  

ginandbacon: hubiestubert: ...what in the chocolate covered f*ck is this asshattery?

He has been in violation of the law for 20 years. This isn't about Obama, but about a pattern of dodging grazing fees and more, and tying up the courts with what amounts to business practices that use public resources that he refuses to pay for, unlike his competition, that he is more than happy to game. Worse, he's put folks in danger with a situation that put folks in danger looking to defend his asshattery. He's not a hero. He's not a Brave Pioneer. He's a moocher who wants folks to approve of his idiocy, because...reasons. And he's going to wind up getting boned in the courts, most probably arrested, and fleeced for his asshattery, and destruction of public property, and when the bill comes due, he's going to wail about he's the victim for his own damn stupidity.

NRO has really gone in the tank for idiots...

They were at some point not in the tank for idiots?


The National Review, in its print version, has some journalistic standards, but Gottverdammt, the website is just a nominally spellchecked hive of DERP...
 
2014-04-16 09:06:19 AM  

Diogenes: But not all dissidents are content to submit to what we, in the Age of Obama, still insist on quaintly calling "the rule of law."


That was a tough, dry pill to swallow, but I persevered.
 
2014-04-16 09:11:25 AM  
"Of course the law is against Cliven Bundy. How could it be otherwise? The law was against Mohandas Gandhi, too,  "

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-16 09:15:08 AM  
img.fark.net
Drew Brees has really let himself go.
 
2014-04-16 09:15:18 AM  

factoryconnection: Well I've been looking for a different take on this story, because throughout the versions I've read in regular news it seems like Bundy turned a political disagreement into a decades-long squatting scam.  So I did what I pretty much never do and clicked a NRO link.  From that:
1. I see that even the NRO thinks Cliven Bundy is a nutcase
2. The civil disobedience is still disobedience argument does apply well
3. The author's point suffers on three fronts, IMHO
    a.  Cliven Bundy has been skipping his grazing fees in a for-profit business, not as part of some grand civil-rights measure; comparing him to Washington is sorta iffy and Ghandi is right out.
    b.  The passage "Surely not every inch of that 87 percent of Nevada under the absentee-landlordship of the federal government is critical to the national interest. Perhaps Mr. Bundy would like to buy some land where he can graze his cattle." assumes that BLM is in fact absent in its duties, and that Bundy has shown any inclination to pay for anything in a long, long time.

But I will give Mr. Williamson credit for not lobbing an all-out derp storm.


The funny thing is: Bundy's land was acquired from the government in the first place--let's all thank James K. Polk for securing the Utah Territory for that. That no good gub'mint gave him the land in the first place. And the huge swaths of Federal land that is STILL part of Nevada? NOT purchased and doled out, but held because no one f*cking wanted it. Bundy is looking to use public resources, and the complaints against his use range back fair far. This entire case hinges on a moocher wanting to continue what he sees as an entitlement, and how DARE you sirrah, call him a welfare case! He has land! He has property! And he's still unwilling to pay the grazing fees to compete fairly. He pretty much illustrates exactly what is wrong with this country and our economics at this point. Public cost, private profit, at ALL costs...
 
2014-04-16 09:16:06 AM  

hubiestubert: ...what in the chocolate covered f*ck is this asshattery?

He has been in violation of the law for 20 years. This isn't about Obama, but about a pattern of dodging grazing fees and more, and tying up the courts with what amounts to business practices that use public resources that he refuses to pay for, unlike his competition, that he is more than happy to game. Worse, he's put folks in danger with a situation that put folks in danger looking to defend his asshattery. He's not a hero. He's not a Brave Pioneer. He's a moocher who wants folks to approve of his idiocy, because...reasons. And he's going to wind up getting boned in the courts, most probably arrested, and fleeced for his asshattery, and destruction of public property, and when the bill comes due, he's going to wail about he's the victim for his own damn stupidity.

NRO has really gone in the tank for idiots...


The magazine founded by the psychotic racist asshat? The pro-apartheid rag?
 
2014-04-16 09:22:20 AM  

dittybopper: Jackson Herring: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

bout three inches of dick in this entire picture

and it's all hard

*TWEET*

Markley's Law violation.  Fifteen yard penalty and automatic loss of argument.


*TWEET*

Improper use of Markley's Law violation, penis size not related to the guns, but the people holding them.

Reset from last down.
 
2014-04-16 09:22:50 AM  

JoieD'Zen: Is subby trying to get all Mary Poppinsy with that headline?

This Bundy thing is going to get worse, much worse, with all the groups taking sides.


Which is why the feds backed down last week. They're goin to hit this guy hard with red tape and beaurocratic nightmares. An arena where his guns will do him zero good.
 
2014-04-16 09:23:24 AM  

Rapmaster2000: [img.fark.net image 615x345]
Drew Brees has really let himself go.


It's an interesting melange of hick, dress up tough guy, and douche.  Give the guy on the right an Affliction shirt and it would be perfect.
 
2014-04-16 09:25:28 AM  
If the Air Force ever really developed that "gay bomb", this would be a hell of a place to try it out
 
2014-04-16 09:28:34 AM  
which one of those brave spanx-wearing patriots are you, ditty
 
2014-04-16 09:29:30 AM  

dittybopper: That headline is really quite atrocious.

/Really?  I'm the first one?


Maybe a spoonful of sugar will help.
 
2014-04-16 09:32:18 AM  

BunkoSquad: If the Air Force ever really developed that "gay bomb", this would be a hell of a place to try it out


I like 'em big and stupid.  I'd be willing to go and measure the effectiveness.
 
2014-04-16 09:33:51 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Jackson Herring: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

bout three inches of dick in this entire picture

and it's all hard

Is that loser in the plaid pajamas actually carrying a gun?

How does he not realize it clashes horribly with his outfit?


Pajamas, gun and giant neck tattoo.

The three keys to success.
 
2014-04-16 09:33:51 AM  

BunkoSquad: If the Air Force ever really developed that "gay bomb", this would be a hell of a place to try it out


I'd be willing to bet $20 at least one or two bro-jobs happened after the crowds dispersed.
 
2014-04-16 09:37:00 AM  
Of course the law is against Cliven Bundy. How could it be otherwise? The law was against Mohandas Gandhi, too, when he was tried for sedition

BWAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
 
2014-04-16 09:37:23 AM  

Rapmaster2000: [img.fark.net image 615x345]
Drew Brees has really let himself go.


Must be why he's packin' now. No longer able to take care of himself without major assistance.
 
2014-04-16 09:37:50 AM  

xanadian: dittybopper: That headline is really quite atrocious.

/Really?  I'm the first one?

Maybe a spoonful of sugar will help.


angam.ang.univie.ac.at

A poonful of sugar helps the men go down, in the most delightful way....
 
2014-04-16 09:38:20 AM  

incendi: factoryconnection: 2. The civil disobedience is still disobedience argument does apply well

Civil disobedience usually doesn't include pointing guns at your "oppressors", either. A few weeks ago, you could call it civil disobedience, but now it's just a minor rebellion.


Yeah, THAT.
 
2014-04-16 09:38:42 AM  
The telling part was how he DEMANDED that the local Sheriff disarm all of the Parks Service agents and hand them over to him personally, as if he was going to build his own Iron Throne out of them or something.

Ever notice that these types who yowl the loudest saying that Obama is a tyrant are the types who want to be the ones doing the tyrantin'?

Bunch of petulant, arrogant man-children!
 
2014-04-16 09:40:06 AM  

Rapmaster2000: [img.fark.net image 615x345]
Drew Brees has really let himself go.


"I've got this standoff to go to, but there's the BBQ later....how do I dress for both?"
 
2014-04-16 09:41:09 AM  

xanadian: dittybopper: That headline is really quite atrocious.

/Really?  I'm the first one?

Maybe a spoonful of sugar will help.


I laughed.

/I love to laugh. Loud and long and clear.
 
2014-04-16 09:41:11 AM  

TV's Vinnie: The telling part was how he DEMANDED that the local Sheriff disarm all of the Parks Service agents


Guess he doesn't believe in the 2nd amendment.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-16 09:41:57 AM  
hubiestubert:

The funny thing is: Bundy's land was acquired from the government in the first place--let's all thank James K. Polk for securing the Utah Territory for that. That no good gub'mint gave him the land in the first place. And the huge swaths of Federal land that is STILL part of Nevada? NOT purchased and doled out, but held because no one f*cking wanted it. Bundy is looking to use public resources, and the complaints against his use range back fair far. This entire case hinges on a moocher wanting to continue what he sees as an entitlement, and how DARE you sirrah, call him a welfare case! He has land! He has property! And he's still unwilling to pay the grazing fees to compete fairly. He pretty much illustrates exactly what is wrong with this country and our economics at this point. Public cost, private profit, at ALL costs...

Did he buy it or did his ancestors get welfare land under the homestead act?  He said that he cattle had been grazing there since 1870 or so, so that would be about the right time.
 
2014-04-16 09:42:16 AM  

TV's Vinnie: The telling part was how he DEMANDED that the local Sheriff disarm all of the Parks Service agents and hand them over to him personally, as if he was going to build his own Iron Throne out of them or something.

Ever notice that these types who yowl the loudest saying that Obama is a tyrant are the types who want to be the ones doing the tyrantin'?

Bunch of petulant, arrogant man-children!


We should call that the Arpaio Effect.
 
2014-04-16 09:42:29 AM  
This about sums things up, and particularly why the tone and tenor of comments here are so utterly predictable and boring:

Is government our servant, or is it our master? The Left has long ago answered that question to the satisfaction of its partisans, who are happy to be serfs so long as their birth control is subsidized. But the Right always struggles with that question, as it must.
 
2014-04-16 09:42:31 AM  
The NRO correctly compares Cliven and his armed FREEDOM posse to Mohandas Gandhi.

Yes. Mohandas Gandhi.
 
2014-04-16 09:42:41 AM  

Diogenes: Rapmaster2000: [img.fark.net image 615x345]
Drew Brees has really let himself go.

It's an interesting melange of hick, dress up tough guy, and douche.  Give the guy on the right an Affliction shirt and it would be perfect.


I was thinking that this assemblage would be more like the cowboy looking guy, and less like the four guys in the back who look like they should be wandering into Pawn Stars to unload their 1993 Kawasaki Ninja.

That dude on the right epitomizes the Riverside/Suburban LA/Phoenix/Vegas look.  What's up with that?  How did that become the style of about 10 million dudes in the Southwest.

Of course, I can't say too much.  I live in the Southeast and this is how about 10 million of us dress and cut our hair.
31.media.tumblr.com
/as a midwesterner, this is not a style of haircut I would/could wear
//it's very southern
 
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