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2014-04-16 08:52:07 AM  
RTFA...*whew*

I thought Lionel Hutz set up practice in Texas.
 
2014-04-16 09:15:12 AM  
Well, that's more reasonable than I expected.
 
2014-04-16 09:19:46 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Well, that's more reasonable than I expected.


After the Cliven Bundy thing, I was afraid this 'silly acts of civil disobedience' thing had gone too far.
 
2014-04-16 10:10:44 AM  

Diogenes: RTFA...*whew*

I thought Lionel Hutz set up practice in Texas.


Sadly, not in some time.

RIP Try McClure
 
2014-04-16 10:10:50 AM  
Can't wait to see "Exhibit A".
 
2014-04-16 10:11:04 AM  
I thought it was going to be a female lawyer in a skirt
 
2014-04-16 10:11:30 AM  
www.gjel.com
 
2014-04-16 10:12:37 AM  

zarker: I thought it was going to be a female lawyer in a skirt


I was hoping it was going to be a female lawyer without one.
 
2014-04-16 10:13:40 AM  

zarker: I thought it was going to be a female lawyer in a skirt


Oddly, it would be the opposite, i.e., judges getting bent out of shape because female lawyers were wearing pants instead of a skirt.  Back in the day, when I practiced law in rural Arkansas, there were a few judges that actually told female lawyers to wear a long skirt, not pants.
 
2014-04-16 10:15:23 AM  

reillan: zarker: I thought it was going to be a female lawyer in a skirt

I was hoping it was going to be a female lawyer without one.


I'm just thankful nobody got kilt.
 
2014-04-16 10:15:35 AM  
I was hoping kilt .....

/ que groundskeeper Willie.
 
2014-04-16 10:15:53 AM  
Not to be all legal, would not this fall under ADA (albeit temporary) and reasonable accommodation?
 
2014-04-16 10:16:26 AM  
Wow that judge is a biatch.  He seemed to have a reasonable case for wearing shorts.
 
2014-04-16 10:16:29 AM  
One pig knows that feel.

www.toonbarn.com
 
2014-04-16 10:18:44 AM  

TNel: Wow that judge is a biatch.  He seemed to have a reasonable case for wearing shorts.


And it would seem he'd have a decent case for being on temporary disability.  And he's trying to show up for work and represent his clients.

Biatch indeed.
 
2014-04-16 10:19:38 AM  
Dude. You're a lawyer. Go hire a tailor and have him or her make you some nice pants that work with your prosthetic. I could make you a nice couple of pairs of dress slacks for a reasonable price that would function as formal wear. just sew a long fastener in the back or side of the gimp leg. (Gimp, for the record, is a trim used by us upholsterers) And no one will even know they are modified pants. I can make them out of that tacky khaki crap you are so fond of, too, but I wouldn't recommend it for court.

Clean yourself up, you farkface. You're a pro, act like one and look like one.
 
2014-04-16 10:20:17 AM  
Your honor, if I can't smoke and swear I'm farked
 
2014-04-16 10:20:37 AM  
Maybe he should wear a skirt, see if she tries to bar him from her courtroom for that.
 
2014-04-16 10:20:54 AM  

JohnCarter: Not to be all legal, would not this fall under ADA (albeit temporary) and reasonable accommodation?


It would. But there are smarter alternatives.
he can write off the cost of the alterations, too.
he should know that.
 
2014-04-16 10:23:18 AM  
It's Texas. She should just be glad he isn't wearing jorts.
 
2014-04-16 10:23:18 AM  

JohnCarter: Not to be all legal, would not this fall under ADA (albeit temporary) and reasonable accommodation?


Yes it would.
 
2014-04-16 10:24:29 AM  

Gunboat: zarker: I thought it was going to be a female lawyer in a skirt


Oddly, it would be the opposite, i.e., judges getting bent out of shape because female lawyers were wearing pants instead of a skirt.  Back in the day, when I practiced law in rural Arkansas, there were a few judges that actually told female lawyers to wear a long skirt, not pants.


Dead on.  The guy that just retired from the bench the next county over was famous for that.  Old coot.  My guess is this Judge heard some of that early in her career and is just getting back at "the man" now that she's wearing the robe.

And most times you really don't want to know what the Judge is wearing under the robe.
 
2014-04-16 10:25:34 AM  

vudukungfu: JohnCarter: Not to be all legal, would not this fall under ADA (albeit temporary) and reasonable accommodation?

It would. But there are smarter alternatives.
he can write off the cost of the alterations, too.
he should know that.


Bespoke pants are expensive, take some time to make, and are, as a practical matter, entirely unnecessary. Forcing people who are disabled to go out of their way and to bear the cost of accommodations themselves is exactly what the reasonable accommodations part of the ADA was intended to address.
 
2014-04-16 10:26:45 AM  
Let's just agree that they're both assholes and move on.

Judge, you're being a biatch.  He has a medical condition that makes it impractical to wear pants.

Law talking guy, you're a douche.  You say you can't put on long pants without help.  Bullshiat.  If you can put on shorts without help, you can put on pants without help.  They go on the same way.  When I catch you in an obvious lie, I don't believe  anything you say.  Long pants would interfere with your medical device.  That's all you need to say.  You don't need to make shiat up.
 
2014-04-16 10:26:47 AM  
Would the lawyer's name happen to be Wakko Warner?
 
2014-04-16 10:27:25 AM  

zarker: I thought it was going to be a female lawyer in a skirt


I thought it was gonna be a male lawyer in a skirt.
 
2014-04-16 10:27:35 AM  

zarker: I thought it was going to be a female lawyer in a skirt


He may have faired better if he had wore a skirt.  Since, shorts has such a stigma attached to them, even though this weekend, little boys will be running around looking for eggs in suits and short pants.

/ maybe if he wore socks with little garters, she may have laughed to hard to be mad at him.
 
2014-04-16 10:27:43 AM  
l.yimg.com

"I have tubes that come out of my leg that make it prohibitive to wear [pants]. This connects to my ice machine...that is a way of taking down the swelling in my leg. I'm also incapable of putting on long pants by myself."

Tubes in his legs? Wearing an ice machine? Damn, he must really need the money: I'd want to stay home until I could my Spiderman jammies on.
 
2014-04-16 10:27:59 AM  
Not wearing pants right now, so......
 
2014-04-16 10:28:25 AM  

zarker: I thought it was going to be a female lawyer in a skirt


Same.
 
2014-04-16 10:29:11 AM  

TNel: Wow that judge is a biatch.  He seemed to have a reasonable case for wearing shorts.


This. He's right, the judge is wrong.

/lawyer
 
2014-04-16 10:29:29 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Well, that's more reasonable than I expected.


When I was in the Navy,  if someone had a condition that required a soft shoe on one foot they would still be required to were a uniform shoe on the other.  I expect a knee brace would require cuting away one pant leg.   Because of Uniform Regulations.

It wouldn't be outragiously unreasonable for the judge to requier the same.  Because of courtroom decorum.

Did you notice in the pic that he's wearing dress shoes but no socks?  WTF?
 
2014-04-16 10:31:50 AM  

cptjeff: Bespoke pants are expensive,


Seam ripper $8

Sew on Velcro is available at the dollar store

Buy some nice pants, and look sharp for work.

I know a one legged girl that works on her foot all day at a Duncan Donuts, and wears skin tight jeans over her prosthetic. You would never know unless you caught her with her pants off.
 
2014-04-16 10:32:34 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Did you notice in the pic that he's wearing dress shoes but no socks?  WTF?


If you couldn't bend your right leg at the knee would you go with no socks or one sock?  At least he's consistent.
 
2014-04-16 10:32:35 AM  
Impeach the judge under violations of the Ada.

Or maybe a personal lawsuit would better handle the situation.
 
2014-04-16 10:32:46 AM  
i1.ytimg.com
maybe he had just been playing pool ?
 
2014-04-16 10:32:48 AM  
Under the circumstances, the shorts should be allowed. His failure to wear socks with loafers, on the other hand, should be punishable by death.
 
2014-04-16 10:33:15 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Did you notice in the pic that he's wearing dress shoes but no socks?  WTF?


Exactly. He's a schmuck.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have accommodations, but that's not excuse for not pulling up your fly, etc.
 
2014-04-16 10:34:20 AM  

jtown: Let's just agree that they're both assholes and move on.

Judge, you're being a biatch.  He has a medical condition that makes it impractical to wear pants.

Law talking guy, you're a douche.  You say you can't put on long pants without help.  Bullshiat.  If you can put on shorts without help, you can put on pants without help.  They go on the same way.  When I catch you in an obvious lie, I don't believe  anything you say.   Long pants would interfere with your medical device.  That's all you need to say.  You don't need to make shiat up.


He appears to have had ACL surgery. The brace on his knee is water-jacketed and cold water, fed by tubes from a portable reservoir, is circulated through it in order to control the swelling. Putting on pants with this device wold be considerable more difficult than shorts considering you need to connect the tubes.
 
2014-04-16 10:34:57 AM  

vudukungfu: cptjeff: Bespoke pants are expensive,

Seam ripper $8

Sew on Velcro is available at the dollar store

Buy some nice pants, and look sharp for work.

I know a one legged girl that works on her foot all day at a Duncan Donuts, and wears skin tight jeans over her prosthetic. You would never know unless you caught her with her pants off.


static.fjcdn.com
 
2014-04-16 10:35:28 AM  
I wonder what would have happened if he had bothered to contact the court prior to the hearing for guidance with his "issue"?
 
2014-04-16 10:35:52 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Relatively Obscure: Well, that's more reasonable than I expected.

When I was in the Navy,  if someone had a condition that required a soft shoe on one foot they would still be required to were a uniform shoe on the other.  I expect a knee brace would require cuting away one pant leg.   Because of Uniform Regulations.

It wouldn't be outragiously unreasonable for the judge to requier the same.  Because of courtroom decorum.

Did you notice in the pic that he's wearing dress shoes but no socks?  WTF?


I did, but I didn't find it weird.
 
2014-04-16 10:38:00 AM  
 It's the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) - it's black letter law."

And you want to make this about discrimination?  Only a lawyer that didn't have a case would come up with this ploy.  At least he is working for his client.
 
2014-04-16 10:38:31 AM  
From the looks of it, thats a cold cuff, the same kind I had when I had arthroscopic surgery on my knees.  Its basically a wrap-around bag and brace, and those two hoses at the top are quick-connects for this little cooler thing you bring with you, filled with icewater.  You fill the cuff with cold water, it keeps the swelling down.  When the water gets warm, you re-attach to the cuff and exchange the water.  I wore mine over my pants.
 
2014-04-16 10:38:35 AM  
What a pantsless lawyer may look like:

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-16 10:39:02 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: When I was in the Navy, if someone had a condition that required a soft shoe on one foot they would still be required to were a uniform shoe on the other. I expect a knee brace would require cuting away one pant leg. Because of Uniform Regulations.

It wouldn't be outragiously unreasonable for the judge to requier the same. Because of courtroom decorum.

Did you notice in the pic that he's wearing dress shoes but no socks? WTF?


And you think the judge would be ok with one pant leg cutoff into shorts and the other being all the way down?  Wow please let me stop laughing first.

How do you think he's going to get the socks on if he can't bend his leg?  Would you also be fine with one sock on and one sock off?  Jesus he would look stupid as hell and would get thrown out of court.

BTW those are not dress shoes.
 
2014-04-16 10:39:34 AM  

Hack Patooey: From the looks of it, thats a cold cuff, the same kind I had when I had arthroscopic surgery on my knees.  Its basically a wrap-around bag and brace, and those two hoses at the top are quick-connects for this little cooler thing you bring with you, filled with icewater.  You fill the cuff with cold water, it keeps the swelling down.  When the water gets warm, you re-attach to the cuff and exchange the water.  I wore mine over my pants.


Meaning, he doesnt have tubes coming 'out of his knee'.
 
2014-04-16 10:40:02 AM  

vudukungfu: cptjeff: Bespoke pants are expensive,

Seam ripper $8

Sew on Velcro is available at the dollar store

Buy some nice pants, and look sharp for work.

I know a one legged girl that works on her foot all day at a Duncan Donuts, and wears skin tight jeans over her prosthetic. You would never know unless you caught her with her pants off.


But who would want to do that for a temporary condition to suit pants that likely cost more than $100.  Suit pants aren't cheap, but if this was a permanent situation for him, I would be on board.  This is only a few weeks thing.

/I am wondering why you went through the trouble of catching her without pants.
//is it csb, or a perv story?
 
2014-04-16 10:40:38 AM  

vudukungfu: cptjeff: Bespoke pants are expensive,

Seam ripper $8

Sew on Velcro is available at the dollar store

Buy some nice pants, and look sharp for work.

I know a one legged girl that works on her foot all day at a Duncan Donuts, and wears skin tight jeans over her prosthetic. You would never know unless you caught her with her pants off.


You know Peg?
 
2014-04-16 10:40:50 AM  

vudukungfu: Dude. You're a lawyer. Go hire a tailor and have him or her make you some nice pants that work with your prosthetic. I could make you a nice couple of pairs of dress slacks for a reasonable price that would function as formal wear. just sew a long fastener in the back or side of the gimp leg. (Gimp, for the record, is a trim used by us upholsterers) And no one will even know they are modified pants. I can make them out of that tacky khaki crap you are so fond of, too, but I wouldn't recommend it for court.

Clean yourself up, you farkface. You're a pro, act like one and look like one.


Only retards opt for permanent solutions for temporary problems. He's probably only going to need the brace for a few weeks, and during that time he may only have limited court appearances. Smart people wouldn't waste the money. Plus the article doesn't detail the circumstances of the hearing but the dude is a criminal attorney so it's is possible he had booked himself off to recover from surgery but an established client needed him and he opted to appear in court regardless of his personal medical condition.
 
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