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2014-04-15 11:48:19 PM
Guilty as charged
 
2014-04-16 12:04:00 AM
9 of the Top 10 games are all Valve. Coincidence?

And the guy who wrote that has an awful lot of games he hasn't played very much.
 
2014-04-16 12:14:03 AM
Scratch that: ALL of the Top 10 games are Valve. I didn't realize DOTA2 was one of theirs.
 
2014-04-16 12:19:15 AM
How the farking fark is Portal 2 so far from the top? Not only is that one of the best games in YEARS, it seems to be  constantly on sale.
 
2014-04-16 12:21:32 AM
Came here to make sure CIV V was not on the list... leaving unsatisfied
 
2014-04-16 01:19:58 AM

fusillade762: 9 of the Top 10 games are all Valve. Coincidence?

And the guy who wrote that has an awful lot of games he hasn't played very much.


In all fairness, it's easy to get their games on sale or in a bundle pack.  Not that it isn't for other games, but they've certainly made their games pretty available.  Plus their games are the best ;).  Hell, I've re-bought their games on Steam despite playing them on xbox, but only for modding and because you can get package deals.
 
2014-04-16 07:24:33 AM
the first like 7 or so are or were all free at one point
 
2014-04-16 07:29:41 AM
Not even accounting for Indie Royale or Humble Bundle or the like(and if you hunt around, there's quite a few of the like out there), Steam Sales with bundles mean that I've got a game collection in the triple digits on(and off) Steam.

I've got maybe 25% of them actually installed. Of those I've played maybe 75% of them.

And yet. Every damn time there's a sale, or another bundle, it's like, eh, I've got five bucks, and I might play that one puzzle game or strategy/city builder/fantasy RPG some day, why not?

On the one hand, I'm spending less a month than if I reserved/bought a AAA title. On the other hand, my backlog now exceeds my potential natural lifetime, barring winning the lottery and being able to dedicate every waking hour to gaming.

And I know i'm nowhere near the only one with this "problem".
 
2014-04-16 07:30:21 AM
I've bought quite a few older games like Evil Genius that I used to have on disc just to have an updated copy or to replace a scratched up disc, and I'm willing to take the chance on an indie game when it's on sale for a few bucks.  At times it feels like Steam: we don't play games, we collect them.
 
2014-04-16 07:31:49 AM

ElvisThroop: Guilty as charged


I have well over 100 games.

I've played... several
 
2014-04-16 07:32:47 AM
I gave Civ 5 another try after a few threads devolved into its apologists vs the rest of us:  Its better then it was at first but it still pales to the depth of Civ 4 plus its expansions and a community mod.  Now I know the automatic response to that is:  Well buy all the Civ5 expansions and install some mods.  But the problem with that is spending another $80 and finding some mods that actually doesn't exist just to make a game feel like its predecessor isn't my idea of a solid game and its supporting blatant fragmentation of games into costly chunks for the sake of profits.  A real successor would have had all the expansion content from day 1, especially since they so closely mimic the expansions of 4.

I'll likely get the expansions for 5 at some point, but only on a steep discount via steam sale, just like I got 5 itself.  Civ5 is not worth $140 and those piecemeal DLCs to add nations or maps which used to be incorporated into the core expansions is a genuine slap in the face.  They reached too far in this monetizing of their product and I'm not playing along.
 
2014-04-16 07:33:05 AM
also, when you bought the cdkey for halflife (to play counterstrike) you could use the same key for deathmatch classic, riccochet and day of defeat.
 
2014-04-16 07:36:39 AM
Free games and tech demos get added to accounts and maybe not ever downloaded or played. This is Ric Romero reporting from the field, back to you ken.
 
2014-04-16 07:40:21 AM
Steam has a no refund policy. So when you buy a game and it's a piece of shiat, your stuck with it.

I found this out the hard way when I night a flight game for PC and it said it had controller support. Of course they didn't mean "joystick" by controller.

Er...fark you steam.
 
2014-04-16 07:40:59 AM

tripleseven: Steam has a no refund policy. So when you buy a game and it's a piece of shiat, your stuck with it.

I found this out the hard way when I night a flight game for PC and it said it had controller support. Of course they didn't mean "joystick" by controller.

Er...fark you steam.


You're. I hate phone posting.
 
2014-04-16 07:47:08 AM

tripleseven: Steam has a no refund policy. So when you buy a game and it's a piece of shiat, your stuck with it.

I found this out the hard way when I night a flight game for PC and it said it had controller support. Of course they didn't mean "joystick" by controller.

Er...fark you steam.


This too, for the most part I've just gone along with it but then X:  Rebirth came along, Egosoft single-handed destroyed a long legacy of excellent 4X space empire building with that one, I went back and forth with a steam rep for almost two months (only because he'd wait a week between each response).  No more preorders over $20 for me, regardless of the title and who developed it.

Getting a little wary of the perpetual 'early access' games too, there's several that have just spun out and died shortly after appearing on steam.
 
2014-04-16 07:47:17 AM

asquian: Not even accounting for Indie Royale or Humble Bundle or the like(and if you hunt around, there's quite a few of the like out there), Steam Sales with bundles mean that I've got a game collection in the triple digits on(and off) Steam.

I've got maybe 25% of them actually installed. Of those I've played maybe 75% of them.

And yet. Every damn time there's a sale, or another bundle, it's like, eh, I've got five bucks, and I might play that one puzzle game or strategy/city builder/fantasy RPG some day, why not?

On the one hand, I'm spending less a month than if I reserved/bought a AAA title. On the other hand, my backlog now exceeds my potential natural lifetime, barring winning the lottery and being able to dedicate every waking hour to gaming.

And I know i'm nowhere near the only one with this "problem".


Yup. There are many of us.

/join uuuuuuuuusssssssssssss
 
2014-04-16 07:50:18 AM

fusillade762: 9 of the Top 10 games are all Valve. Coincidence?

And the guy who wrote that has an awful lot of games he hasn't played very much.


Try page 2 of TFA. The entire point of the article is about how "most owned" is not the same as "most popular".
 
2014-04-16 07:50:55 AM
i've got 152 games in my steam library, i've played 102 of them but i've only finished maybe 25 of them?

BumpInTheNight: I gave Civ 5 another try after a few threads devolved into its apologists vs the rest of us:  Its better then it was at first but it still pales to the depth of Civ 4 plus its expansions and a community mod.  Now I know the automatic response to that is:  Well buy all the Civ5 expansions and install some mods.  But the problem with that is spending another $80 and finding some mods that actually doesn't exist just to make a game feel like its predecessor isn't my idea of a solid game and its supporting blatant fragmentation of games into costly chunks for the sake of profits.  A real successor would have had all the expansion content from day 1, especially since they so closely mimic the expansions of 4.

I'll likely get the expansions for 5 at some point, but only on a steep discount via steam sale, just like I got 5 itself.  Civ5 is not worth $140 and those piecemeal DLCs to add nations or maps which used to be incorporated into the core expansions is a genuine slap in the face.  They reached too far in this monetizing of their product and I'm not playing along.


never spend more than $20 on a computer game
 
2014-04-16 07:57:56 AM

AdamK: never spend more than $20 on a computer game


I usually agree with you, but I will be paying full price for Half Life 3 when it comes out this June.
 
2014-04-16 07:58:44 AM
Yup...

Steam puts out a sale of a bunch of games  under $5, you buy a handful and forget about them.
Then a humble bundle gets released and you drop another $10 on a couple games.
Rinse and repeat
 
2014-04-16 08:03:34 AM

BumpInTheNight: tripleseven: Steam has a no refund policy. So when you buy a game and it's a piece of shiat, your stuck with it.

I found this out the hard way when I night a flight game for PC and it said it had controller support. Of course they didn't mean "joystick" by controller.

Er...fark you steam.

This too, for the most part I've just gone along with it but then X:  Rebirth came along, Egosoft single-handed destroyed a long legacy of excellent 4X space empire building with that one, I went back and forth with a steam rep for almost two months (only because he'd wait a week between each response).  No more preorders over $20 for me, regardless of the title and who developed it.

Getting a little wary of the perpetual 'early access' games too, there's several that have just spun out and died shortly after appearing on steam.


Not steam, but same deal.

I should have really thought long and hard before dropping 100+ dollars for the preorder premium BF4.

For the first two months the game was practically unplayable for multiplayer. Not to mention my team had a server for three months at 70 bucks a month.

EA should have reimbursed us for subsidizing that shiatpile.

We just stopped renting a server.
 
2014-04-16 08:22:13 AM
Ricochet is on the list.

Ricochet.

Seriously...

I start that game up every 3 months or so to see if anyone is still playing.  There are, in fact, between 2 and 5 people online playing ricochet at any given time.

#13 - in downloads maybe.
 
2014-04-16 08:23:35 AM
A lot of those unplayed ones are parts of package sales or add-on components for games that people may not need/want but were packaged with a game they play.  I see a  lot of Counterstrike-related stuff on that list.  I bought a Counterstrike bundle years ago to play with a roommate.  It came with half a dozen (or more) extra items that I never used.

Not that I don't have some unused games that I purchased but if it's $20 to buy a game and $40 for the company's entire catalog, I'll buy the catalog.
 
2014-04-16 08:25:01 AM

MurphyMurphy: ElvisThroop: Guilty as charged

I have well over 100 games.

I've played... several


I didnt know I had an alt on here.

I mostly play TF2 and KSP, though Banished has been taking a lot of my time lately.
 
2014-04-16 08:25:44 AM
ts1.mm.bing.net
 
2014-04-16 08:26:02 AM
First world problems...
 
2014-04-16 08:30:05 AM

BumpInTheNight: I gave Civ 5 another try after a few threads devolved into its apologists vs the rest of us:  Its better then it was at first but it still pales to the depth of Civ 4 plus its expansions and a community mod.  Now I know the automatic response to that is:  Well buy all the Civ5 expansions and install some mods.  But the problem with that is spending another $80 and finding some mods that actually doesn't exist just to make a game feel like its predecessor isn't my idea of a solid game and its supporting blatant fragmentation of games into costly chunks for the sake of profits.  A real successor would have had all the expansion content from day 1, especially since they so closely mimic the expansions of 4.

I'll likely get the expansions for 5 at some point, but only on a steep discount via steam sale, just like I got 5 itself.  Civ5 is not worth $140 and those piecemeal DLCs to add nations or maps which used to be incorporated into the core expansions is a genuine slap in the face.  They reached too far in this monetizing of their product and I'm not playing along.


Or just wait for the spiritual successor to SMAC.  That's the month I finally buy a new computer.
 
2014-04-16 08:31:42 AM

Farkbadger: Came here to make sure CIV V was not on the list... leaving unsatisfied


It is an oft-repeated lie that Civ V is bought but not played. This graph shows that.


Also a lie, that Civ V sucks. Try it with the x-pacs. It's better than BtS.
 
2014-04-16 08:32:32 AM

asquian: Not even accounting for Indie Royale or Humble Bundle or the like(and if you hunt around, there's quite a few of the like out there), Steam Sales with bundles mean that I've got a game collection in the triple digits on(and off) Steam.

I've got maybe 25% of them actually installed. Of those I've played maybe 75% of them.

And yet. Every damn time there's a sale, or another bundle, it's like, eh, I've got five bucks, and I might play that one puzzle game or strategy/city builder/fantasy RPG some day, why not?

On the one hand, I'm spending less a month than if I reserved/bought a AAA title. On the other hand, my backlog now exceeds my potential natural lifetime, barring winning the lottery and being able to dedicate every waking hour to gaming.

And I know i'm nowhere near the only one with this "problem".


Yep, this is me as well. When a game that looks fairly interesting is on sale for $2, that's less than I spend on coffee in a day. I only have to play it once for about 10 minutes to make it worthwhile... and then there are always those little gems that you get for $2 and turn out to be something you enjoy enough to spend hours playing, which makes up for all the ones you only spend 10 minutes on anyway.

I do try to eventually get around to installing and at least trying every game. I was on the ball with that for quite a while, but lately haven't had the time or patience.
 
2014-04-16 08:33:38 AM

NeedlesslyCanadian: How the farking fark is Portal 2 so far from the top? Not only is that one of the best games in YEARS, it seems to be  constantly on sale.


I'd guess it's because, and this is just my opinion mind you, it really wasn't that good.  People were just clamoring to play it so they could be one of the first to discover what the next "The cake is a lie" meme would be.  It also only took a few hours to beat, and has next to zero re-playability, unless you play user-created content.
 
2014-04-16 08:33:50 AM

M Sinistrari: I've bought quite a few older games like Evil Genius that I used to have on disc just to have an updated copy or to replace a scratched up disc, and I'm willing to take the chance on an indie game when it's on sale for a few bucks.  At times it feels like Steam: we don't play games, we collect them.


I have that problem with GOG.  I have originals of Dungeon Keeper I and II, Baldurs Gate 2, Theme Hospital, Alpha Centauri, and Planescape: Torment.  But when they come on sale, I can't say NO to paying $1-$2 to have a virtual copy and my disks can stay in storage unmolested, and If I want to play them I don't have to worry about compatibility issues.

I do need another copy of Evil Genius though...
 
2014-04-16 08:41:12 AM
I tried Team Fortress 2 once, but no one was playing. It was just me and one other guy running around.  I guess times have changed, that was back when The Orange Box first came out.
 
2014-04-16 08:41:19 AM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: NeedlesslyCanadian: How the farking fark is Portal 2 so far from the top? Not only is that one of the best games in YEARS, it seems to be  constantly on sale.

I'd guess it's because, and this is just my opinion mind you, it really wasn't that good.  People were just clamoring to play it so they could be one of the first to discover what the next "The cake is a lie" meme would be.  It also only took a few hours to beat, and has next to zero re-playability, unless you play user-created content.


Look for the only patch of white wall that will take a portal. Shoot it. Repeat. Congratulations, you've beat Portal 2.

/If there's one thing this list shows, it's that people still play single player. Look a the median time played for COD, then look at mean time played. Then look at the average time played per game type.
 
2014-04-16 08:47:34 AM

stuhayes2010: I tried Team Fortress 2 once, but no one was playing. It was just me and one other guy running around.  I guess times have changed, that was back when The Orange Box first came out.


The SourceOP servers are generally ALWAYS busy, and full of good quality players.  Their two 2Fort servers are fun as hell with 16 on 16.
 
2014-04-16 08:49:58 AM
I've been playing Airmech for over a year... before it make it on Steam... free game until you want fancier stuff....

It's the only online game I've played, and the appeal was my love for Robotech/Macross.

I enjoy that it's simple to learn, easy to play, you CAN use a controller with it, and the games can quick and simple.

It's still in Beta, but it's already been through a lot of development.

At one point I installed Steam, but since I already have so much going on with my machine 24/7, I didn't like having another background thing running all the time.
 
2014-04-16 08:50:38 AM
Day of Defeat, wow, that takes me back. A montage of shovel-related video game deaths just played in my head.
 
2014-04-16 08:57:33 AM

fusillade762: 9 of the Top 10 games are all Valve. Coincidence?

And the guy who wrote that has an awful lot of games he hasn't played very much.


Well, yes, he is a Steam user.

/Steam sales, Humble Bundles, etc. are a cruel mistress
//owns 249 games
///played maybe 80 of them at all
 
2014-04-16 09:00:57 AM
I have no idea what Dota 2 was and just found out that its a free to play game. I have over 90 games on steam. I must've played about 40 of them. I must've completed 15 of them.

Then I have another 25 games on Origin, most came from that C&C ultimate pack with 17 games. I must've played 10 of them, completed 3.

And then Im sure I have a bunch of keys I bought on amazon that I haven't redeemed yet.

Dont get me started on my bluray collection..
 
2014-04-16 09:12:07 AM
The one game that sticks out in the hours played is CS:CZ.  Really?  I can see picking it up as a bundle but people actually play that?  114 million hours played and this is after hours being recorded.... 8 years after release?  More hours played than L4D.
 
2014-04-16 09:15:23 AM
HeartBurnKid:
/Steam sales, Humble Bundles, etc. are a cruel mistress
//owns 249 games
///played maybe 80 of them at all


Yeah, I've missed like 4 humblebundles evar. I've picked up more than a few indieroyale/gala bundles too.
Mostly I just see them as a chance to donate a coffee's cost to EFF/child's play and the free games are just a bonus "thank you" from them the developers. Just like I never wear my fund-raiser tshirts/bracelets/ect, I pretty much never play the games (but only because I don't have the time)

/437 games in my library today
/haven't yet activated the last 2 or 3 bundles I got.
 
2014-04-16 09:18:37 AM

ThatGuyOverThere: HeartBurnKid:
/Steam sales, Humble Bundles, etc. are a cruel mistress
//owns 249 games
///played maybe 80 of them at all

Yeah, I've missed like 4 humblebundles evar. I've picked up more than a few indieroyale/gala bundles too.
Mostly I just see them as a chance to donate a coffee's cost to EFF/child's play and the free games are just a bonus "thank you" from them the developers. Just like I never wear my fund-raiser tshirts/bracelets/ect, I pretty much never play the games (but only because I don't have the time)

/437 games in my library today
/haven't yet activated the last 2 or 3 bundles I got.


Does that 437  inlcude the 20 licenses of the 3 or 4 humble bundle darlings that get offered with about half of all bundles?
 
2014-04-16 09:19:31 AM

Saiga410: The one game that sticks out in the hours played is CS:CZ.  Really?  I can see picking it up as a bundle but people actually play that?  114 million hours played and this is after hours being recorded.... 8 years after release?  More hours played than L4D.


I still play it quite a lot - but not the stock game. I have the throwback mod which lets you play both sides on old 1.6 maps, including user-created favorites. The graphics may be better in CS:GO but the hitboxes are all wrong to me. Of course, that could be the fact that I've been playing 1.6 since it came out...
 
2014-04-16 09:21:53 AM
Nice use of data. Bet Valve tweaks thingd to make replication hard
 
2014-04-16 09:29:11 AM
And then, to make things even worse, I have a wish list. On Steam. Yes, tell me when this game or that goes on sale. Because I have a problem.
 
2014-04-16 09:30:59 AM

vonmatrices: Ricochet is on the list.

Ricochet.

Seriously...



like I said earlier.  Everyone who bought Halflife got ricochet, day of defeat, and deathmatch classic.  It's like putting the same game on there 4 times.
 
2014-04-16 09:32:32 AM
How is this surprising?

1.They have massive sales at Christmas and other occasions, so people buy games and don't get a chance to play for months. I must have bought 20 games in December but haven't had a chance to play most.

2. Bundle packages mean you might get a few games you don't want with the games you do.

3. Fee games. They gave away free copies of L4D2 this Christmas for example.

4. Cheap. With massive discounts I can afford to spend $2 and try out an iffy game.
 
2014-04-16 09:33:12 AM
Man, that was a near perfect pareto match on that last chart.  This suggests that steam might actually not give any games extra assistance over others.
 
2014-04-16 09:36:55 AM
For the steam user, I find this link indispensable:

http://steamdb.info/sales/

It's a list of all the games on sale on steam at the moment, with % savings, how long they are on sale for, and if they are a top seller.  New steam sales start daily at 1pm EDT.

/you're welcome.
 
2014-04-16 09:38:46 AM

asquian: Not even accounting for Indie Royale or Humble Bundle or the like(and if you hunt around, there's quite a few of the like out there), Steam Sales with bundles mean that I've got a game collection in the triple digits on(and off) Steam.

I've got maybe 25% of them actually installed. Of those I've played maybe 75% of them.

And yet. Every damn time there's a sale, or another bundle, it's like, eh, I've got five bucks, and I might play that one puzzle game or strategy/city builder/fantasy RPG some day, why not?

On the one hand, I'm spending less a month than if I reserved/bought a AAA title. On the other hand, my backlog now exceeds my potential natural lifetime, barring winning the lottery and being able to dedicate every waking hour to gaming.

And I know i'm nowhere near the only one with this "problem".


As of January of this year I have ceased purchasing games until I clear my current "backlog" (with an exception for one Nintendo 3DS game purchased for play during an out-of-town excursion).

I am currently working through a game released in 1991.

With my current rate of play I may actually clear the list by 2020, though that is not guaranteed.
 
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