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(The Wrap)   Sanjay Gupta on deadly Ebola outbreak in Guinea: "There's a possibility of someone getting on a plane who has been exposed but not developed any symptoms"   (thewrap.com ) divider line
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2014-04-16 08:53:23 AM  
Is this guy related to Chirag Gupta, from the "Diary of the Wimpy Kid"??
 
2014-04-16 08:57:09 AM  

Pastor Veal: Is there any reason why blood from an infected person wouldn't be an effective WMD in the hands of terrorists?   I've no idea how carefully they are guarding the bodies/fluids of the infected but if a small amount could be obtained it could easily be transported anywhere in the world and then cultivated and reproduced with relatively simple technologies.  I imagine infecting people could be as easy as driving by crowds of people and hitting them with a super-soaker that has a bit of infected blood added to the water.


Yeah, im less worried about "accidental" exposure than I am about some organized group intentionally super-exposing an operative 2 hours before they step on the airplane, and then flying to South Africa and walking around their airport for a while.

Or, some kind soul handing out spiked "free water" on the airport shuttle. It's all very 12 Monkeys.
 
2014-04-16 09:07:48 AM  

FnkyTwn: Pastor Veal: Is there any reason why blood from an infected person wouldn't be an effective WMD in the hands of terrorists?   I've no idea how carefully they are guarding the bodies/fluids of the infected but if a small amount could be obtained it could easily be transported anywhere in the world and then cultivated and reproduced with relatively simple technologies.  I imagine infecting people could be as easy as driving by crowds of people and hitting them with a super-soaker that has a bit of infected blood added to the water.

Yeah, im less worried about "accidental" exposure than I am about some organized group intentionally super-exposing an operative 2 hours before they step on the airplane, and then flying to South Africa and walking around their airport for a while.

Or, some kind soul handing out spiked "free water" on the airport shuttle. It's all very 12 Monkeys.


History has at least one example of terrorists collecting Ebola for nefarious purposes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo
 
2014-04-16 09:12:47 AM  

Smoking GNU: drjekel_mrhyde: I'm black and would never step foot in Africa or South America.
/I'll leave that up to "I'm going back to the motherland" hyper-pro blacks and the "I want to tour the world" white people.
//Enjoy

Those hyper-pro blacks also necer make it past 3 months here before fleeing back to civilization.

/currently woeking on escaping this continent myself


Yeesh, don't post from your phone. Your spelling is even worse then ...
/ :P
 
2014-04-16 09:15:14 AM  

calbert: dahmers love zombie: My doctorate isn't in medicine, but really, anyone making that moronic of a statement is amazingly silly.

except he didn't say that. subby took a few liberties with the quote.


here's the quote:

"The problem now is that it is in Conakry [capital of Guinea], which is a city of 2 million and has an international airport and the possibility of someone getting on a plane who has been exposed but not developed any symptoms, that's a real concern. It's not likely to happen, but it has been keeping people up at night".

here's the part that subby changed to coax a greenlight:

"The problem now is that it is in Conakry [capital of Guinea], which is a city of 2 million and has an international airport and the possibility of someone getting on a plane who has been exposed but not developed any symptoms, that's a real concern. It's not likely to happen, but it has been keeping people up at night".

that does not mean the same as "there is a possibility". and of course, Dr. Gupta attempts to calm irrational fears by adding, "it's not likely to happen...".

he's talking about how some people will be thinking that, not that HE is thinking that.


Since no one could read the fourth post and are instead happily circlejerking about how bad Sanjay Gupta is, I thought I'd repeat what this guy pointed out so that it can be ignored twice.
 
2014-04-16 09:21:11 AM  

fusillade762: AliceBToklasLives: TommyJReed: Just like it is technically possible a black hole swallowed up MH370.  possible? yes.  Probable?  no.

Ebola infections come from handling infected blood or fluids.  Many of the Infections are primary care providers such as nurses, or Family Members involved in washing and preparing the bodies for funerals.  There are also the economic factors to consider, I would wager that not many of the infected or dead could afford an airline ticket.

Well once the dead start buying airline tickets, I think it's time to panic.

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2014-04-16 09:38:49 AM  

CruJones: BullBearMS: CruJones: BullBearMS: GameSprocket: AverageAmericanGuy: Then again, Jocelyn Elders was also Surgeon General, so it's not like the bar is set especially high.

What did she say that was wrong? If anything, she just seems ahead of her time.

She was honest in a puritanical culture.

She publicly said that teenagers could avoid both pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases by masturbating instead of having unprotected sex.

/The horror.

And we all agree that masturbation is a great replacement for sex, and this will totally work

Yes. Teenagers never masturbate and it's much better that they have unprotected sex instead.

That's the point, they already masturbate, telling them to do it and not have sex is simply naive and stupid.   Telling them to use condoms?  Great idea.


Have we forgotten that under Clinton even the Dems were pushing abstinence?
 
2014-04-16 09:41:02 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If a Boeing 777 can survive what US Airways did to it without infection it can handle something simple like a cattle class full of violently hemhorraging tribesmen


I know, I had the lasagna.
 
2014-04-16 09:46:20 AM  
You could also say the same for any STD.
 
2014-04-16 09:51:31 AM  
HawgWild:

Tom Hardy was a terrible Bane. He's about 5'7" and they didn't even bother making him look much bigger in the film... Like they did with Gandalf maybe.

When he beat Batman's ass that seemed to be a result of Batman being old and busted.
 
2014-04-16 09:57:00 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Mr. Coffee Nerves: If a Boeing 777 can survive what US Airways did to it without infection it can handle something simple like a cattle class full of violently hemhorraging tribesmen

I know, I had the lasagna.


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2014-04-16 10:22:35 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I'm black and would never step foot in Africa or South America.
/I'll leave that up to "I'm going back to the motherland" hyper-pro blacks and the "I want to tour the world" white people.
//Enjoy


It shows how greedy the European explorers and colonists were.  They must have been dying like flies, and still more kept coming.  The native Africans had to have developed some immunity to these diseases, the Europeans had zip. Then, you have the various parasites in the water supplies, etc.  I'm surprised that they lasted a month.  I think I would have tried something else to get rich.
 
2014-04-16 10:32:49 AM  

Pastor Veal: Is there any reason why blood from an infected person wouldn't be an effective WMD in the hands of terrorists?   I've no idea how carefully they are guarding the bodies/fluids of the infected but if a small amount could be obtained it could easily be transported anywhere in the world and then cultivated and reproduced with relatively simple technologies.  I imagine infecting people could be as easy as driving by crowds of people and hitting them with a super-soaker that has a bit of infected blood added to the water.


Not so easily. The primary weakness of bio weapons is the threat to the operators and friendly.
 
2014-04-16 10:45:28 AM  

OhioKnight: docmattic: lohphat: Ebola is not an airborne virus, it requires direct contact.

But let's not mention that and cause a blind panic anyway.

Not entirely correct. Although direct contact is the principal method of transmission, Ebola and many of the hemorrhagic fever viruses can be spread by aerosolization as well:
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/abroad/pdf/vhf-interim-guidance.pdf

/on the upside, the same document says that transmission has never been found to happen from people before they develop symptoms (i.e. fever).
//yikes

The book "The Hot Zone" chronicled an incident where one of Ebola's cousins got loose in an Arlington VA research facility -- and just for giggles, there is solid evidence of pure airborne transmission (through filtered air) in that incident (which only involved Apes).

But the reason you don't have to fear Ebola is because it's too "hot" -- its symptoms show and kill so quickly that it can't really "outbreak" -- Marburg too.  What would really be scary would be a slower, less-fatal version of Ebola or Marburg.


Had to read the "The Hot Zone" in my freshman year of high school, and now I want to read it again.  I wonder where my copy is?  The first chapter about the guy showing all the symptoms on the plane is disgustingly awesome.
 
2014-04-16 10:46:16 AM  
Sanjay Gupta on deadly Ebola outbreak in Guinea: "There's a possibility of someone getting on a plane who has been exposed but not developed any symptoms"

And then what?  Does the plane just sit on the runway or what the hell happens next?  Don't stop there muther flucker!
 
2014-04-16 10:48:17 AM  

BullBearMS: CruJones: BullBearMS: CruJones: BullBearMS: GameSprocket: AverageAmericanGuy: Then again, Jocelyn Elders was also Surgeon General, so it's not like the bar is set especially high.

What did she say that was wrong? If anything, she just seems ahead of her time.

She was honest in a puritanical culture.

She publicly said that teenagers could avoid both pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases by masturbating instead of having unprotected sex.

/The horror.

And we all agree that masturbation is a great replacement for sex, and this will totally work

Yes. Teenagers never masturbate and it's much better that they have unprotected sex instead.

That's the point, they already masturbate, telling them to do it and not have sex is simply naive and stupid.   Telling them to use condoms?  Great idea.

Have we forgotten that under Clinton even the Dems were pushing abstinence?


What do political parties have to do with anything?  It's stupid regardless of who is pushing it
 
2014-04-16 11:05:35 AM  

Nocrash: Pastor Veal: Is there any reason why blood from an infected person wouldn't be an effective WMD in the hands of terrorists?   I've no idea how carefully they are guarding the bodies/fluids of the infected but if a small amount could be obtained it could easily be transported anywhere in the world and then cultivated and reproduced with relatively simple technologies.  I imagine infecting people could be as easy as driving by crowds of people and hitting them with a super-soaker that has a bit of infected blood added to the water.

Not so easily. The primary weakness of bio weapons is the threat to the operators and friendly.


That would certainly be a concern to a normal person but I wouldn't think they'd be much of a deterrent to the sort of people who are willing to kill themselves in order to take out others.
 
2014-04-16 11:21:38 AM  
Is the "Obvious" tag home sick with some mysterious ailment?

Does anyone really trust Guinea's screening to be 100% effective?  All it takes is one infected person with a couple hundred extra dollars for bribes.  The result could be a planeload of infected passengers landing in a major western city near you.
 
GBB
2014-04-16 11:27:13 AM  
www.thelmagazine.com
"oh shait"
 
2014-04-16 11:31:20 AM  

HawgWild: [s2.quickmeme.com image 408x416]


He was a good man but dumber than a sack of tulips and so we gather today to honor him in this hour bereavement for his passing.
 
2014-04-16 11:37:41 AM  
AverageAmericanGuy: "That it was hyperbolic and sensationalist."

What he *said* was hyperbolic and sensationalist?  Or what subby quoted out of context?

"It's not likely to happen" isn't typically a hallmark of hyperbole and sensationalism.
 
2014-04-16 11:39:50 AM  
meh, the world is overcrowded anyway...
 
2014-04-16 12:14:09 PM  
It's conceivable that a healthcare worker may make enough to get a flight, but hopefully they would be smart enough to wait and quarantine themselves or something.
 
2014-04-16 12:18:40 PM  

2KanZam: meh, the world is overcrowded anyway...


So, you're "checking yourself out" what day this week, to help solve the problem?
 
2014-04-16 12:56:12 PM  
"The problem now is that it is in Conakry [capital of Guinea], which is a city of 2 million and has an international airport and the possibility of someone getting on a plane who has been exposed but not developed any symptoms, that's a real concern. It's not likely to happen, but it has been keeping people up at night". 

All it takes is one crazy person to buy a ticket to Hong Kong, and local becomes global
 
2014-04-16 12:58:51 PM  
Worse case senario?

Someone is a carrier, asymptomatic but still infected.  They come back and work at a Chipotle or some such place that sees 100's or mabe 1,000's of people in a western country.  They return with the need to pay for thier expensive "third-world-experience" and have to work hard and long hours to catch up, al the while sweating into the pico de gallo as they chop away in the back room.

They infect many people who then infect many many more.  Aaaaaand pandemic.

This is not likely by any definition but it is entirely possible.

Case in point: don't eat at Chipotle until this calms down, it will be hard but the wait will make it taste even better than before, if that is even possible.
 
2014-04-16 02:22:37 PM  
Kumar been hitting the weed a bit more lately?
 
2014-04-16 03:30:24 PM  

OhioKnight: The book "The Hot Zone" chronicled an incident where one of Ebola's cousins got loose in an Arlington VA research facility


Reston, actually -- hence the strain, Ebola Reston.
 
2014-04-16 04:24:00 PM  

kicksmile: Worse case senario?


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-04-16 06:29:15 PM  

dahmers love zombie: My doctorate isn't in medicine, but really, anyone making that moronic of a statement is amazingly silly.  Yes, if you begin showing symptoms during the flifht, and vomit blood all over every single pax, then they quarantine the plane.  Problem solved.


It's not silly, it's stupidly obvious. Anyone in the infected area can be "exposed" to the virus. We're all exposed to diseases every day but we usually don't contract them. So yes, it's highly possible that someone could be exposed, show no symptoms, then get on a plane, then be showing symptoms by the time they land.
 
2014-04-16 07:42:24 PM  
Despite his background, Sanjay Gupta is as (un)believable as Dr. Oz.  Give us some news when you're selling something, or touting your newest book.
 
2014-04-16 09:50:13 PM  

TommyJReed: Just like it is technically possible a black hole swallowed up MH370.  possible? yes.  Probable?  no.

Ebola infections come from handling infected blood or fluids.  Many of the Infections are primary care providers such as nurses, or Family Members involved in washing and preparing the bodies for funerals.  There are also the economic factors to consider, I would wager that not many of the infected or dead could afford an airline ticket.


dahmers love zombie: My doctorate isn't in medicine, but really, anyone making that moronic of a statement is amazingly silly.  Yes, if you begin showing symptoms during the flifht, and vomit blood all over every single pax, then they quarantine the plane.  Problem solved.


Cantankerous Gnome: Had to read the "The Hot Zone" in my freshman year of high school, and now I want to read it again. I wonder where my copy is? The first chapter about the guy showing all the symptoms on the plane is disgustingly awesome.


Let's reflect on this a little further. A dude goes into a Kenyan cave one day around New Years1980, and starts getting sick a week later. He begins to look like the walking dead, but the local hospital doesn't know what's wrong with him. So they decide he needs to go to Nairobi, and they put him in a taxi to the airport. During a flight aboard a Kenya Airways turboprop, his body starts to get serious about liquifying and he starts to vomit blood. He does make it to Nairobi, and manages to catch another taxi to the hospital. Even though he now looks like like one of those Nazis at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, he still has to wait in the emergency room for a doctor. He pitches over onto the floor and begins to bleed prolifically out of every orifice, at which point the nurses and doctors decide that maybe he does need help. He finally dies later that night while in a coma in intensive care. He had the Marburg virus, just one of several hemorrhagic fever cousins of Ebola.

Unfortunately, reality does seem to thrive on exhibiting inconceivable behavior.
 
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