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(Talking Points Memo)   Donald Rumsfeld knows there are known tax deductions. These are deductions he knows that he knows. But there are known unknown tax deductions, and he knows he does not know those   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 133
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2014-04-15 10:11:14 PM  
Makes sense. Don't we all know what we know but don't know what we don't know?

/dnrtfa
 
2014-04-15 10:20:25 PM  
Rumsfeld can't do his taxes, yet it is the government's fault? Millions upon millions of Americans can figure out their taxes every year, but this former government official on the secretary level can't figure out his personal taxes? This man who use to run the biggest damn department of the government can't figure out his own taxes, and he blames the government? It's the government's fault?

Has there been some massive change in the tax code since this "man" was a high ranking member of the government?
 
2014-04-15 11:01:19 PM  
Rumsfeld needs to be bound and gagged and dropped off at The Hague.
 
2014-04-15 11:04:34 PM  
FTA: "The former secretary of defense under two presidents writes a letter to the IRS every year calling on the agency to reform the tax code."

The IRS doesn't write the tax code, Congress does.

Farking idiot.
 
2014-04-15 11:07:22 PM  

HawgWild: This man who use to run the biggest damn department of the government can't figure out his own taxes, and he blames the government?


Well, to be fair, he couldn't figure out the Pentagon's accounting while he was there either.
 
2014-04-15 11:13:57 PM  

dr_blasto: Rumsfeld needs to be bound and gagged and dropped off at The Hague.


Gagging a prisoner is cruel.

And he did report directly to the president of the US. A bit of decorum is in order.

Maybe use Evian when you waterboard him, and linen napkins.
 
2014-04-15 11:22:41 PM  

MisterTweak: dr_blasto: Rumsfeld needs to be bound and gagged and dropped off at The Hague.

Gagging a prisoner is cruel.

And he did report directly to the president of the US. A bit of decorum is in order.

Maybe use Evian when you waterboard him, and linen napkins.


Fine. No gag.

Spit hood. His boss should be there next to him.
 
2014-04-15 11:46:46 PM  

HawgWild: Rumsfeld can't do his taxes, yet it is the government's fault? Millions upon millions of Americans can figure out their taxes every year, but this former government official on the secretary level can't figure out his personal taxes? This man who use to run the biggest damn department of the government can't figure out his own taxes, and he blames the government? It's the government's fault?

Has there been some massive change in the tax code since this "man" was a high ranking member of the government?


I guess it's easy to whine about government when you're not part of it anymore.
 
2014-04-16 12:01:09 AM  
Solution: Be poor.
 
2014-04-16 12:21:13 AM  
Good. Throw his ass in prison on the same charges that brought down that other criminal, Al Capone...
 
2014-04-16 12:42:40 AM  
You know nothing, Dick Snow.
 
2014-04-16 12:54:42 AM  

dr_blasto: MisterTweak: dr_blasto: Rumsfeld needs to be bound and gagged and dropped off at The Hague.

Gagging a prisoner is cruel.

And he did report directly to the president of the US. A bit of decorum is in order.

Maybe use Evian when you waterboard him, and linen napkins.

Fine. No gag.

Spit hood. His boss should be there next to him.


You have a deal. (and they say us democrats aren't open to compromise, yeesh!)
 
2014-04-16 01:17:18 AM  
What I like about Rumsfeld is that he doesn't make you think. Is he patting himself on the back for his genius--genius!--handling of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Is he declaring that he's a drooling moron who can't handle the terrifying intellectual feat that is filling out a 1040? Doesn't matter--he's lying either way.

Nice of him to throw his wife under the (short) bus, too.
 
2014-04-16 01:24:27 AM  
"our accountants"
 
2014-04-16 02:08:05 AM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2014-04-16 03:19:04 AM  
"I do hope that at some point in my lifetime, and I am now in my 80s, so there are not many years left....

I also do hope that you don't have many more years left.

Dude sounds like he's losing it.
 
2014-04-16 03:22:21 AM  

dr_blasto: Rumsfeld needs to be bound and gagged and dropped off at The Hague.


With Kissinger.
 
2014-04-16 03:23:21 AM  
Audit him.
 
2014-04-16 03:27:49 AM  
You file your taxes with the forms you have, not the forms you want or wish to have at a later time.
 
2014-04-16 03:33:28 AM  
This moron thinks that he's recently stumbled upon something clever with his known unknown nonsense. Most children have this epistemological awareness. Does he know he sounds like an idiot?
Aside from that, it is not progression that makes the tax system complicated. It is all the exemptions, deductions, credits and loopholes that he takes advantage of that complicate his taxes. Calling for simplification is just rhetoric for a flat tax to further screw the unwealthy.
 
2014-04-16 03:34:30 AM  
Whaddayaknow... After all these years I can finally support something Rumsfield said.

FTFA: "...I am now in my 80s, so there are not many years left..."
 
2014-04-16 03:35:14 AM  
*Rumsfeld
 
2014-04-16 03:36:21 AM  
Here's hoping he chokes on a cherry without Father Cornelius to pat him on the back.
 
2014-04-16 03:47:22 AM  
If I ever become rich and famous, I am going to flagrantly cheat on my taxes, but I'll file on April 15 at 11:59 PM after making a public statement like this.  That way, I get to instantly declare martyrdom if the government comes after me for my incredibly obvious crimes.

/Alternatively, if they don't, then I get to play the Warren Buffett card and say I'm proof that the system isn't working.
//Either way, the only loser is the American people.  But not me personally, so that's fine then.
 
2014-04-16 03:52:21 AM  
This is a conservative country. That means it protects its own.
 
2014-04-16 03:54:22 AM  
"The forms are so complicated"

I think this says more about Donald Rumsfeld than it does about the tax code.
 
2014-04-16 03:54:32 AM  

HawgWild: Rumsfeld can't do his taxes, yet it is the government's fault? Millions upon millions of Americans can figure out their taxes every year, but this former government official on the secretary level can't figure out his personal taxes? This man who use to run the biggest damn department of the government can't figure out his own taxes, and he blames the government? It's the government's fault?

Has there been some massive change in the tax code since this "man" was a high ranking member of the government?


You have to remember, he did a farking horrible job running the DoD as well.  Completely failing to understand things he's responsible for is a key trait of Donald "liberators" Rumsfeld.
 
2014-04-16 04:13:17 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: You file your taxes with the forms you have, not the forms you want or wish to have at a later time.


I lol'd.
 
2014-04-16 04:17:16 AM  
IRS forms are designed to be usable for Every. Single. Taxpayer. in the entire United States.  In just a few pages for the standard return, they somehow allow all of us, with our infinitely variable incomes, lifestyles and professions, to report our financial history for an entire year.

I double-dog dare Rumsfeld, and any other "hurr durr simplify da tax forms" intellectual, to condense and simplify a 1040 and still have it applicable to all those with income in a nation of 330,000,000 individuals.

PS Donald Rumsfeld is a war criminal
 
2014-04-16 04:27:32 AM  
great. Now he's going to stop working and get on welfare, just because it's so complicated to be rich.

Thanks Obama.
 
2014-04-16 04:39:54 AM  
If Rove was Bush's brain, then Cheney was his conscience...

...and Rumsfeld was his hubris.
 
2014-04-16 04:41:30 AM  
That man should be hanging from a lamp post, not getting media attention.
 
2014-04-16 04:43:16 AM  
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/it was an unknown unknown!
 
2014-04-16 04:52:37 AM  

red5ish: That man should be hanging from a lamp post, not getting media attention.


I don't know. I wouldn't mind seeing what lamp post he was hung from getting some media attention.
 
2014-04-16 05:04:13 AM  
Hey, they are just lucky he doesn't think there are WMD at the IRS building in Washinton DC or the whole shebang would have been blown up back in 2001.

Or, he could just go to H&R block like I did.
 
2014-04-16 05:06:30 AM  
He also wrote a letter to a general complaining about the US going to war.
 
2014-04-16 05:21:34 AM  

Sgt Otter: FTA: "The former secretary of defense under two presidents writes a letter to the IRS every year calling on the agency to reform the tax code."

The IRS doesn't write the tax code, Congress does.

Farking idiot.


So much this.  I see this all the time from Republicans and some Democrats.  Everyone complains about tax rates and how bad the tax code is so they lash out at the IRS without realizing they have very little to do with any of it.  They are just the enforcement arm of the tax code.  Nothing more, nothing less.  It's like blaming your local PD for your mandator 10 yr sentence for drug possession.  They didn't write that law and they can't change it.  People need to start writing their damn congressman/woman over this crap.
 
2014-04-16 05:22:20 AM  
Let me guess, does he want to simplify it in such a way that the rich pay less? If only he could afford the services of an accountant...
 
2014-04-16 05:41:51 AM  
Errol Morris had to go and poke this bear. Now he is out of retirement and vying for attention again.
 
2014-04-16 05:44:57 AM  

Wyalt Derp: Let me guess, does he want to simplify it in such a way that the rich pay less? If only he could afford the services of an accountant...


Perhaps an accountant would see where his money really came from, and he can't have that..  (guessing)
 
2014-04-16 05:55:53 AM  
Back in the early days of the Iraq invasion preparation, my BIL installed a laptop on his desk so he could see this Internet thing where so much criticism was flying around.

People at that level don't look at email either. They are quite insulated from the goings on we regular guys deal with every day.
 
2014-04-16 06:07:17 AM  

edmo: Back in the early days of the Iraq invasion preparation, my BIL installed a laptop on his desk so he could see this Internet thing where so much criticism was flying around.

People at that level don't look at email either. They are quite insulated from the goings on we regular guys deal with every day.


Well that would make sense in 1991.

Oh you meant the second one didn't you. I had someone think that their computer and internet had to be turned on all the time to receive email, you know like the phone. I had to explain it in terms of a "messaging service".
 
2014-04-16 06:17:31 AM  

Sgt Otter: FTA: "The former secretary of defense under two presidents writes a letter to the IRS every year calling on the agency to reform the tax code."

The IRS doesn't write the tax code, Congress does.

Farking idiot.


Well yeah, but writing a letter to your congressmen is so third grade.  Grandstanding to the IRS is much more attention whorish.
 
2014-04-16 06:25:50 AM  
Rumsfeld's accountant advised him to send in at least $600,000, but he felt that $100,000 would be sufficient. 
 
In all seriousness, is there anything that scumbag is good at?  At least Dubya turned out to be a halfway competent painter.
 
2014-04-16 06:33:37 AM  

El Pachuco: IRS forms are designed to be usable for Every. Single. Taxpayer. in the entire United States.  In just a few pages for the standard return, they somehow allow all of us, with our infinitely variable incomes, lifestyles and professions, to report our financial history for an entire year.

I double-dog dare Rumsfeld, and any other "hurr durr simplify da tax forms" intellectual, to condense and simplify a 1040 and still have it applicable to all those with income in a nation of 330,000,000 individuals.

PS Donald Rumsfeld is a war criminal



Rumsfeld is an all-around reptile, but on this point he isn't wrong.

Even if the forms were minimally complicated as things stand (they are not), they are more complicated than they would be under a less absurd tax code. That complicated forms are primarily the result of a complex code doesn't mean the forms aren't complicated.


5 star chef of tv dinners: Sgt Otter: FTA: "The former secretary of defense under two presidents writes a letter to the IRS every year calling on the agency to reform the tax code."

The IRS doesn't write the tax code, Congress does.

Farking idiot.

So much this.  I see this all the time from Republicans and some Democrats.  Everyone complains about tax rates and how bad the tax code is so they lash out at the IRS without realizing they have very little to do with any of it.  They are just the enforcement arm of the tax code.  Nothing more, nothing less.  It's like blaming your local PD for your mandator 10 yr sentence for drug possession.  They didn't write that law and they can't change it.  People need to start writing their damn congressman/woman over this crap.



Except TPM is mischaracterising the letter, and he isn't asking the IRS to change the code. He is telling the IRS, to whom he and his wife are required to certify that their tax return is accurate, that neither of them can in reality determine whether it is accurate. With a little grandstanding thrown in about wishing the "US government" would change the code, because he's planning to post it to farking twitter.


Alphax: Wyalt Derp: Let me guess, does he want to simplify it in such a way that the rich pay less? If only he could afford the services of an accountant...

Perhaps an accountant would see where his money really came from, and he can't have that..  (guessing)


He says he hired accountants. He is pointing out that he has no idea whether they actually got it right.


/that "known unknowns" business is probably the most sensible statement he has ever made
 
2014-04-16 06:44:29 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Except TPM is mischaracterising the letter, and he isn't asking the IRS to change the code. He is telling the IRS, to whom he and his wife are required to certify that their tax return is accurate, that neither of them can in reality determine whether it is accurate. With a little grandstanding thrown in about wishing the "US go ...


Oh, I concede that point.  His statement could be taken out of context or he meant something else. Plus that is a power that the IRS does have so it's a solid request.  However, my point still remains in a sense.  WAY to many people have this belief that the IRS is the end all/be all when it comes to the tax code and writes/changes it all themselves.  Odds are, you, me and probably everyone else in this thread has met people like this.
 
2014-04-16 06:47:09 AM  
Okay, I'm just going to come out and ask it... Why is this asshole in so many headlines these days? He can't possibly be contemplating a bid for office.

Is he planning to run a SuperPAC during the upcoming seasons, or trying to get a permanent job on Fox News or something?
 
2014-04-16 06:49:49 AM  
I love how all the members of the Bush Administration have been coming out the woodwork to offer their advice on the topics of the day...

If you're still listening to these shiat merchants and nodding in agreement, you're part of the farking problem.
 
2014-04-16 06:51:13 AM  

clkeagle: Okay, I'm just going to come out and ask it... Why is this asshole in so many headlines these days? He can't possibly be contemplating a bid for office.


I think there's a new book out about him... I don't know if it paints him in a positive light or not, but maybe he's trying to run a little counter PR?
 
2014-04-16 06:53:32 AM  

keylock71: clkeagle: Okay, I'm just going to come out and ask it... Why is this asshole in so many headlines these days? He can't possibly be contemplating a bid for office.

I think there's a new book out about him... I don't know if it paints him in a positive light or not, but maybe he's trying to run a little counter PR?


There's a documentary film on him, already out on iTunes.  It's noted that unlike the generals running the war in Vietnam, Rumsfeld still seems unable to admit that there was anything the least bit wrong with what he did.
 
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