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2014-04-16 08:39:53 AM  
unjust
 
2014-04-16 08:41:16 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use


It's also hard to say they were selling if the cops didn't make any buys.

Land of the Free and all that.
 
2014-04-16 08:43:10 AM  

AgentPothead: Missouri is a shiat hole and moving away from there was the best thing I ever did.


I have friends who moved to Missouri.

They say everyone there calls the state Misery.
 
2014-04-16 08:44:34 AM  

phrawgh: [iruntheinternet.com image 750x500]


i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-16 08:49:27 AM  
You mean zero prison time and a $175 fine like Matthew Broderick got?
 
2014-04-16 08:58:42 AM  

Nidiot: CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.

Only a matter of time before it is no longer illegal anywhere. Just imagine how much jail space that will free up for actual criminals, you know, the sort that actually harm people.


Like prosecutors and lawyers?
More is the pity.
 
2014-04-16 09:07:18 AM  
Good. Two bad people off the streets. Shortened a rifle? Body armor? Drug sales? Of course Fark thinks that is fine, but I do not.
 
2014-04-16 09:13:53 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use.


Probably true, but it depends on how they were growing them. If they had a grow area with a low ceiling, for example, they may have been keeping the flowering plants small and had more as a result. They may also have been growing autoflowers. They also may have had a separate area for reproduction, if they were trying to grow from seeds instead of cloning. And speaking of reproduction, they might have had a bunch of seedlings or clones around as well.
 
2014-04-16 09:21:06 AM  
And this is why DnD should always retain the Lawful Evil alignment.
 
2014-04-16 09:24:34 AM  
Oh no, a babby-killing, heat-seeking, anti-tank 15.75" short barreled rifle. The guy is lucky he didn't get the needle for that!
 
2014-04-16 09:47:47 AM  

nullptr: Oh no, a babby-killing, heat-seeking, anti-tank 15.75" short barreled rifle. The guy is lucky he didn't get the needle for that!


You know it was really 16 inches and they measured it wrong on purpose.  That's why most barrels are at lease a quarter inch over 16.
 
2014-04-16 09:54:23 AM  

AgentPothead: Missouri is a shiat hole and moving away from there was the best thing I ever did.


And by your screen name I believe you are correct.
 
2014-04-16 09:54:42 AM  

RockofAges: Bigdogdaddy: Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use. That probably wouldn't fly even in Washington or Colorado.

SevenizGud: FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?

Whether they thought it was right, they'd probably figure since the law was passed that makes it illegal is OK.  However, our trial court system where you either have to plead guilty or go broke trying to prove yourself innocent, they might have a very big problem with.  Of course, that's just my opinion man...

How many batches of wine are you allowed to have fermenting at once in your home? As far as I know, there's no numerical value attached.

Just saying, the "personal use" issue is a cop out. Either citizens are free to cultivate the herb or not. Any liberty loving individual (hopefully any red blooded American) would be able to identify this as both hypocritical and against the principles of individual freedoms / choice.


There are actually limits to homebrewing/winemaking. I think the federal limit is 100 gallons per year per person for personal use, up to 200 gallons per household. Individual states can also have additional limits.
 
Oak
2014-04-16 10:08:56 AM  
Just keep voting for incumbents, folks.  Everything's fine, and even when it's not, it's the fault of those other peoples' incumbents, not yours.  Yours are great.  Really.
 
2014-04-16 10:54:06 AM  

Oak: Just keep voting for incumbents, folks.  Everything's fine, and even when it's not, it's the fault of those other peoples' incumbents, not yours.  Yours are great.  Really.


As long as they promise to protect the children, I am fine with them doing whatever they deem necessary. Go team!!!
 
2014-04-16 10:55:35 AM  
Breaking the law has consequences?  Holy shiat!  Somebody blog this quick!
 
2014-04-16 11:32:02 AM  

CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.


Working at a resort here in CO, I gotta say, I didn't know how it would do... I had doubts about the whole "Amsterdam of America" thing... but I've met at least a few hundred people, just in my little clothing store, who were quite open about coming here for the weed, and choosing CO over UT or CA mountains just because of the legal pot... the extra weird thing is... it seems to be mostly people in their 40s and 50s who are  just matter-of-fact about it. Either way, revenue for my shop is up, and I welcome anything that draws more customers to the area.

//it was dumb to put people in jail for pot anyways.
///jail is NOT rehab
 
2014-04-16 11:33:19 AM  

JRoo:


Man, I can never tell whether these are supposed to make me want to stay sober or smoke weed. Wild parties? Weird orgies? Unleashed passions? Sounds like a hell of a good time! The half-naked girls just seals the deal...
 
2014-04-16 12:15:01 PM  

RockofAges: dsmith42: RockofAges: Bigdogdaddy: Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use. That probably wouldn't fly even in Washington or Colorado.

SevenizGud: FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?

Whether they thought it was right, they'd probably figure since the law was passed that makes it illegal is OK.  However, our trial court system where you either have to plead guilty or go broke trying to prove yourself innocent, they might have a very big problem with.  Of course, that's just my opinion man...

How many batches of wine are you allowed to have fermenting at once in your home? As far as I know, there's no numerical value attached.

Just saying, the "personal use" issue is a cop out. Either citizens are free to cultivate the herb or not. Any liberty loving individual (hopefully any red blooded American) would be able to identify this as both hypocritical and against the principles of individual freedoms / choice.

There are actually limits to homebrewing/winemaking. I think the federal limit is 100 gallons per year per person for personal use, up to 200 gallons per household. Individual states can also have additional limits.

Interesting. Another reason Canada is more than USA's hat. No such limit here.


It's all about the revenue.  That's why you can't make moonshine without a thousand regulations and barriers to entry.  It's so easy that a lot of people actually would.
 
2014-04-16 01:06:02 PM  
I think the REAL story here is a 36 year old woman is living with her 34 year old brother.  I'll bet they were using the Devil's Weed to fuel their incest-filled orgies!  I'll bet if they dig up the yard they'll find  more evidence of debauchery.
 
2014-04-16 01:24:32 PM  
Actually, I just went out and read about this.  These two screwed up (and their lawyer is a moron).  They were offered a 120 day jail sentence and probation, but turned it down.  Their lawyer convinced them to plead guilty and waive trial.  Oops.  The brother got an extra 7 years for possession of an illegal firearm.  They had a ledger showing sales, paraphernalia, bullet-proof vests, weapons, etc.  This wasn't just a couple of crazy kids growing some pot for fun.  While I am all for legalization, right now it isn't.  The sister will probably only serve 2 to 3 year and the brother 4 to 5.  Tony Baretta - "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".
 
2014-04-16 01:47:05 PM  
This piece of sewage drove away and left her victim to die. She served 180 days in jail.

http://www.kvue.com/news/local/Nestande-to-be-released-from-jail-Fri da y-224560321.html
 
2014-04-16 01:59:52 PM  
I like that "Minimum Trolling" is a thing
 
2014-04-16 02:03:18 PM  
Unless your a rich kid from Texas. Then you get sent to county club rehab. At taxpayer expense.
 
2014-04-16 02:18:32 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Nidiot: CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.

Only a matter of time before it is no longer illegal anywhere. Just imagine how much jail space that will free up for actual criminals, you know, the sort that actually harm people.

Bankers??


www.cinemablend.com

/hot like the hellfire and damnation these bankers deserve
 
2014-04-16 03:54:43 PM  

SevenizGud: FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?


Nope.
http://www.denverpost.com/homegarden/ci_24782729/growing-your-own-mar i juana-colorado-legal-doesnt-mean">http://www.denverpost.com/homegarde n/ci_24782729/growing-your-own-mari juana-colorado-legal-doesnt-mean
"Amendment 64 allows home cultivation of marijuana, up to six plants per adult."
"Even in jurisdictions that don't allow retail marijuana shops, it's legal to grow your own on your own property, within the specifications of Amendment 64."

The conflict between state & federal law is still getting kicked around of course, but there's no real reason for the feds to challenge it. Cases where state law gets stomped on by federal is usually when there's a constitutional issue with the state's law.
 
2014-04-16 04:59:01 PM  

CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.

Just like Obama and Holder.
 
2014-04-16 05:23:25 PM  
Pappy always said, "Don't piss off the police".

Applies double for judges.
 
2014-04-16 07:39:24 PM  

Syrrh: SevenizGud: FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?

Nope.
http://www.denverpost.com/homegarden/ci_24782729/growing-your-own-mar i juana-colorado-legal-doesnt-mean">http://www.denverpost.com/homegarde n/ci_24782729/growing-your-own-mari juana-colorado-legal-doesnt-mean
"Amendment 64 allows home cultivation of marijuana, up to six plants per adult."
"Even in jurisdictions that don't allow retail marijuana shops, it's legal to grow your own on your own property, within the specifications of Amendment 64."

The conflict between state & federal law is still getting kicked around of course, but there's no real reason for the feds to challenge it. Cases where state law gets stomped on by federal is usually when there's a constitutional issue with the state's law.


Federal law always trumps state law because of the supremacy clause. It's why states rights is a joke. States have rights the same way Dilbert is an empowered employee. Aka, the right to make choices over trivial things the Feds can't be bothered to make laws over.

Not to mention the ever broadening scope of commerce clause.
 
2014-04-16 09:58:08 PM  
That's seriously messed up that their lives are ruined while someone doing the same thing in my state just makes money and spends it on goods and services.

This is America, Americans should and need to DEMAND FULL cannabis amnesty for all 50 states and territories.    What's right is right. Why should they suffer? Fark, (and I mean that in every way) it's plain stupid and cruel, especially cruel, that anyone in the other 48 (behind the times) states would be subjected to such despicable treatment in a so-called free country.

We need full cannabis/marijuanahash/hemp amnesty or else we're not being honest.

I appreciate living in a state that enjoys special rulings, but the federal government, or at least the State of Missouri needs to look deep into its heart, and ask itself: "Is this what we want to be known for? Is this the course of action that truly benefits society? "

Stories like these are horror shows.

Let them go, or don't call yourself Americans.

/sympathy puff
 
2014-04-17 09:37:45 AM  
Perhaps they should...........
stuffpoint.com
 
2014-04-17 09:40:33 AM  

ChoNeko: Perhaps they should...........
[stuffpoint.com image 700x393]


Please cite any success with this bullzhit.
 
2014-04-17 09:47:32 AM  
We all make choices, they chose to break the law.
I have a little less than zero sympathy for them.

(Don't like the law? change it, Don't break it)
 
2014-04-17 03:25:31 PM  

RockofAges: It's called Civil Disobedience

I got no problem with Civil Disobedience, but part of Civil Disobedience

 is being ready and willing to be the Martir and accept the consequences that follow until the change happens.

I suspect these two are not ready.
 
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