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2014-04-15 11:50:19 PM
Well I for one am relieved that these hardened criminals are off the streets.
 
2014-04-15 11:56:39 PM
I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.
 
2014-04-16 12:43:05 AM
And remember: tougher sentences deter crime
 
2014-04-16 03:11:44 AM
Missouri is a shiat hole and moving away from there was the best thing I ever did.
 
2014-04-16 03:13:23 AM
What, a taxpayer sponsored vacation to California?
 
2014-04-16 03:20:34 AM
Of course; marijuana is a dangerous illegal drug.
 
2014-04-16 03:24:57 AM
Hit for distribution, it sounds like.

/ be careful with your quantities...
 
2014-04-16 03:26:59 AM
www.francescofrancavilla.com

No matter how dumb you think it is, what would you expect?
 
2014-04-16 03:30:54 AM
The megabank HSBC gets caught blatantly laundering hundreds of millions of dolalrs for the Sinaloa cartel, one of the most bloody of Mexican drug gangs. No one is even prosecuted.


A sister and brother in Missouri get busted with a few plants. Several years in prison.

Yeah, this is the United States I have come to expect. Different laws for different classes of people.
 
2014-04-16 03:37:50 AM
Let us not compare it too murder/manslaughter sentences. let us compare it too rape and assault sentences.

I would call a pot grower 'friend' waaaay before I called a rapist or violet person 'friend'.  I would disown a friend who became a rapist but pot grower not so much.
 
2014-04-16 03:38:30 AM
Judge in question:
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Seriously hope they get some kind of favorable ruling in appeal, if it can be appealed.
 
2014-04-16 03:39:32 AM
*violent :p

Have nothing against violet.
 
2014-04-16 03:41:02 AM

wesmon: The megabank HSBC gets caught blatantly laundering hundreds of millions of dolalrs for the Sinaloa cartel, one of the most bloody of Mexican drug gangs. No one is even prosecuted.


A sister and brother in Missouri get busted with a few plants. Several years in prison.

Yeah, this is the United States I have come to expect. Different laws for different classes of people.


Isn't HSBC British/Scottish?
 
2014-04-16 03:47:11 AM

Langdon_777: Let us not compare it too murder/manslaughter sentences. let us compare it too rape and assault sentences.

I would call a pot grower 'friend' waaaay before I called a rapist or violet person 'friend'.  I would disown a friend who became a rapist but pot grower not so much.


newsjunkiepost.com
 
2014-04-16 03:50:16 AM

jshine: wesmon: The megabank HSBC gets caught blatantly laundering hundreds of millions of dolalrs for the Sinaloa cartel, one of the most bloody of Mexican drug gangs. No one is even prosecuted.


A sister and brother in Missouri get busted with a few plants. Several years in prison.

Yeah, this is the United States I have come to expect. Different laws for different classes of people.

Isn't HSBC British/Scottish?


Yes, they are one of the biggest banks in Britain, but their money laundering was in the U.S. and they walked away with a fine and no charges. And I was wrong before, it was billions of dollars not millions.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-02/hsbc-judge-approves-1-9b-dr ug -money-laundering-accord.html

Meanwhile, us serfs go to prison for having a couple marijuana plants.
 
2014-04-16 03:52:02 AM
Did participate in getting the LLE off of citizen's backs in Columbia, several years ago (`ticket' if caught by city cops).  However, it has always served those I've known, who indulge in such, to place grows ONLY on the properties of elected officials and cops.

State will flip quick, when it does.  And, you can bet, the seed stock will be Roundup-!! Ready...

/don't stray from the I70 corridor, pilgrim
 
2014-04-16 03:58:16 AM
Terrible. A friend was taken to the cleaners in college. Ratted out for selling by a guy who had run from the police on a motorcycle. You know let off the guy who endangered lives in favor of busting a low level pot dealer. Buddy took it in stride learned from his mistakes. Can't wait for decriminalization at the very least.
 
2014-04-16 03:59:28 AM
I'm really curious to see what happens with the recent bill to legalize pot in Missouri goes.

Put up to a vote, I think it could actually pass.
 
2014-04-16 04:09:38 AM
Sounded like the judge was pissed at their lawyer and took it out on them.
 
2014-04-16 04:10:21 AM

PreMortem: Judge in question:
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Seriously hope they get some kind of favorable ruling in appeal, if it can be appealed.


I don't think you can appeal your own guilty plea.

That judge is an idiot, out to prove a point. Said he was perfectly happy to give them 120 days each until he got pissed off at their lawyer, then took it out on them.

Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. I can't seem to find where the prosecution had to prove its case (missing evidence, no warrant to enter for initial search)... but the defendants certainly had to prove their innocence. Pretty sure that's ass-backwards. The judge and every LEO involved should be fired and barred from having anything to do with anything remotely resembling law enforcement (and that includes rent-a-cop) ever again.
 
Skr
2014-04-16 04:12:04 AM
Well those 20 plants are enough to kill 100 kids when they inject it. Punishment definitely fits the crime.
 
2014-04-16 04:15:46 AM

Aigoo: PreMortem: Judge in question:
[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 554x434]

Seriously hope they get some kind of favorable ruling in appeal, if it can be appealed.

I don't think you can appeal your own guilty plea.

That judge is an idiot, out to prove a point. Said he was perfectly happy to give them 120 days each until he got pissed off at their lawyer, then took it out on them.

Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. I can't seem to find where the prosecution had to prove its case (missing evidence, no warrant to enter for initial search)... but the defendants certainly had to prove their innocence. Pretty sure that's ass-backwards. The judge and every LEO involved should be fired and barred from having anything to do with anything remotely resembling law enforcement (and that includes rent-a-cop) ever again.


Sounds like there were a bunch of idiots in that case. It sounded like the lawyer was an idiot for using these 2 people's case for his grandstand against weed criminalization. The two defendants for listening to their idiot lawyer and not taking the plea deal right away when they were offering probation and very little, if any, jail time. And the judge was an idiot for taking his anger for what the lawyer was doing out on the defendants.  Surprisingly the only person that sounds like he wasn't an idiot in this case was the prosecutor.
 
2014-04-16 04:17:36 AM

Skr: Well those 20 plants are enough to kill 100 kids when they inject it. Punishment definitely fits the crime.


50 kids, if they start doing lines of marijuanas.  But yeah, 100 kids.  Especially with those dirty pot needles.
 
2014-04-16 04:20:23 AM

CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.


Only a matter of time before it is no longer illegal anywhere. Just imagine how much jail space that will free up for actual criminals, you know, the sort that actually harm people.
 
2014-04-16 04:51:45 AM
www.marijuanaplanet.us
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2014-04-16 05:02:09 AM
Gave it up a Loooong time ago, when it went up over $20/oz. We used to buy Pounds at $160 split it up. sell 1/2 of them at $20 and smoke the rest of them. When the contact we had jumped the price past $175, we quit. A 6 pack from the corner liquor store was cheaper and less hassle. When us Old guys talk about the Good Old Days, Man! You have no Idea!
 
2014-04-16 05:07:54 AM
FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?
 
2014-04-16 05:11:02 AM
So if you kill someone who grows pot while you're driving drunk, you get no prison time at all!
 
2014-04-16 05:14:43 AM
Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use. That probably wouldn't fly even in Washington or Colorado.

SevenizGud: FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?


Whether they thought it was right, they'd probably figure since the law was passed that makes it illegal is OK.  However, our trial court system where you either have to plead guilty or go broke trying to prove yourself innocent, they might have a very big problem with.  Of course, that's just my opinion man...
 
2014-04-16 05:17:33 AM
Well then, I won't grow 20 pot plants.
 
2014-04-16 05:22:52 AM
I think it's time Congress started going after these idiot judges and prosecuting attorneys.

Justice may be blind, but these folks throw stupid and vindictive into it. I guess they would have gotten lighter sentences if they had gone out and killed someone. Now, that's acceptable where having and growing the 'Evil Weed' is not.

Plus every time I read about a prosecutor with over a 98% conviction rate, I wonder how many innocents he managed to slam behind bars.

Not too long back, I read where a District Attorney was fighting DNA tests that said a guy he put away 20 years ago for murder was innocent. He was claiming the results didn't matter, they had the guys confession -- which he gave up after about 24 hours of 'questioning'. He even had a judge with him blocking efforts of the Innocence Project to free the man or get him a new trial.

Basically, he was covering his arse, since the inevitable multi-million dollar lawsuit against the city would not look good on his record.

Throwing those kids in prison was a serious miscarriage of justice. Both the Judge and the Prosecutor need to be brought before the disciplinary Committee of the Bar. As much as I hate lawyers, their disciplinary committee tends to be harsh on those who take too many liberties.
 
2014-04-16 05:54:11 AM
It's a far greater violation of ethics to unjustly deprive someone of liberty, i.e. the judge and arresting officers should be in jail.
 
2014-04-16 05:55:57 AM

Bigdogdaddy: Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use. That probably wouldn't fly even in Washington or Colorado.


Especially when you also have a bunch of weapons, body armor, and a sales ledger with large amounts moving around in your condo.
 
2014-04-16 05:57:38 AM
That condo looks like a house to me.
 
2014-04-16 06:12:04 AM

TomD9938: Hit for distribution, it sounds like.


Well, you'd be drunk too, if you were running someone over for distributing. Wait...
 
2014-04-16 06:20:50 AM
Ha!  Joke's on you judge.  You have to pay for their incarceration out of your property taxes.
 
2014-04-16 06:30:26 AM
iruntheinternet.com
 
2014-04-16 06:33:52 AM
Where does the short barreled rifle violation come in. That should be another 10 years of federal prison. Set aside the weed part, I thought fark was all about throwing the book at gun law offenders.
And so much for the guy's promising gunsmith career, since he's never allowed to touch a gun again.
 
2014-04-16 07:27:10 AM
I had a friend who killed someone dui. He got one year.

(This was about a decade ago)

Around the same time, a kid in the local trailer park got multiple years for just a few potted plants spotted during a domestic disturbance.

I dont remember, but I'm sure he also got caught with other society-destroying kingpin stuff like a few zip lock bags and a shiatty metal bowl.
 
2014-04-16 07:28:05 AM

Nidiot: CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.

Only a matter of time before it is no longer illegal anywhere. Just imagine how much jail space that will free up for actual criminals, you know, the sort that actually harm people.


Bankers??
 
2014-04-16 07:57:10 AM
Remember.

Weed is worse than murder.
 
2014-04-16 07:57:52 AM

wesmon: The megabank HSBC gets caught blatantly laundering hundreds of millions of dolalrs for the Sinaloa cartel, one of the most bloody of Mexican drug gangs. No one is even prosecuted.


A sister and brother in Missouri get busted with a few plants. Several years in prison.

Yeah, this is the United States I have come to expect. Different laws for different classes of people.


Matt Taibbi gave a great interview yesterday that brought out this point:

MATT TAIBBI: So, HSBC, again, this is one of the world's largest banks. It's Europe's largest bank. And a few years ago, they got caught, swept up for a variety of offenses, money-laundering offenses. But one of them involved admitting that they had laundered $850 million for a pair-for two drug cartels, one in Mexico and one in South America, and including the notorious Sinaloa drug cartel in Mexico that is suspected in thousands of murders.

And in that case, they paid a fine; they paid a $1.9 billion fine. And some of the executives had to defer their bonuses for a period of five years-not give them up, defer them. But there were no individual consequences for any of the executives. Nobody had to pull money out of their own pockets, and nobody did a single day in jail in that case.

And that, to me, was an incredibly striking case. I ran that very day to the courthouse here in New York, and I asked around to the public defenders, you know, "What's the dumbest drug case you had today?" And I found somebody who had been thrown in Rikers for 47 days for having a joint in his pocket.
 
2014-04-16 08:02:45 AM
Nobody has posted yet bout the bullsh*t premise used to enter their apartment and the p.o.s snitch maintenance guy? Farkers, I am disappointed!
I seldom smoke weed but refuse to live in any of these backward ass states with such ridiculous penalties.
 
2014-04-16 08:05:01 AM
Protip:
when the prosecutor offers to recommend a lighter sentence for a plea bargain, tell him to go fark himself. Demand a reduction in charges in return for a guilty plea. Otherwise the prosecutor has sold you something that he can't actually guarantee - once it goes to the judge, the judge can do whatever the fark he wants to and you have little to no recourse for appeal.
 
2014-04-16 08:13:36 AM
Every one of the sick farks who were involved in sending these people to jail should be ashamed of themselves.  They won't be, of course.
 
2014-04-16 08:16:05 AM
But remember, according to the police legalizing pot won't affect the incaceration rate.
 
2014-04-16 08:21:15 AM
Land of the Free™
 
2014-04-16 08:24:15 AM

mcnguyen: Every one of the sick farks who were involved in sending these people to jail should be ashamed of themselves.  They won't be, of course.




Ashamed? They should be the ones in jail.
This madness of using the law to do things that go beyond all common sense is tearing the nation apart by ruining our society and economy. It's hurting millions of people over what is merely another addiction problem.
Thousands are dying over a plant.
Yet we keep giving these people more power instead of running them out the building like the prohibitionists they are.
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with us...
 
2014-04-16 08:37:07 AM

SevenizGud: I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity


To avoid rank hypocrisy you would have to give yourself a decade in the gas chamber.
 
2014-04-16 08:38:33 AM

wesmon: The megabank HSBC gets caught blatantly laundering hundreds of millions of dolalrs for the Sinaloa cartel, one of the most bloody of Mexican drug gangs. No one is even prosecuted.


A sister and brother in Missouri get busted with a few plants. Several years in prison.

Yeah, this is the United States I have come to expect. Different laws for different classes of people.


^ This.  Drug laws are for little people.
 
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