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2014-04-15 11:50:19 PM  
Well I for one am relieved that these hardened criminals are off the streets.
 
2014-04-15 11:56:39 PM  
I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.
 
2014-04-16 12:43:05 AM  
And remember: tougher sentences deter crime
 
2014-04-16 03:11:44 AM  
Missouri is a shiat hole and moving away from there was the best thing I ever did.
 
2014-04-16 03:13:23 AM  
What, a taxpayer sponsored vacation to California?
 
2014-04-16 03:20:34 AM  
Of course; marijuana is a dangerous illegal drug.
 
2014-04-16 03:24:57 AM  
Hit for distribution, it sounds like.

/ be careful with your quantities...
 
2014-04-16 03:26:59 AM  
www.francescofrancavilla.com

No matter how dumb you think it is, what would you expect?
 
2014-04-16 03:30:54 AM  
The megabank HSBC gets caught blatantly laundering hundreds of millions of dolalrs for the Sinaloa cartel, one of the most bloody of Mexican drug gangs. No one is even prosecuted.


A sister and brother in Missouri get busted with a few plants. Several years in prison.

Yeah, this is the United States I have come to expect. Different laws for different classes of people.
 
2014-04-16 03:37:50 AM  
Let us not compare it too murder/manslaughter sentences. let us compare it too rape and assault sentences.

I would call a pot grower 'friend' waaaay before I called a rapist or violet person 'friend'.  I would disown a friend who became a rapist but pot grower not so much.
 
2014-04-16 03:38:30 AM  
Judge in question:
img4.wikia.nocookie.net

Seriously hope they get some kind of favorable ruling in appeal, if it can be appealed.
 
2014-04-16 03:39:32 AM  
*violent :p

Have nothing against violet.
 
2014-04-16 03:41:02 AM  

wesmon: The megabank HSBC gets caught blatantly laundering hundreds of millions of dolalrs for the Sinaloa cartel, one of the most bloody of Mexican drug gangs. No one is even prosecuted.


A sister and brother in Missouri get busted with a few plants. Several years in prison.

Yeah, this is the United States I have come to expect. Different laws for different classes of people.


Isn't HSBC British/Scottish?
 
2014-04-16 03:47:11 AM  

Langdon_777: Let us not compare it too murder/manslaughter sentences. let us compare it too rape and assault sentences.

I would call a pot grower 'friend' waaaay before I called a rapist or violet person 'friend'.  I would disown a friend who became a rapist but pot grower not so much.


newsjunkiepost.com
 
2014-04-16 03:50:16 AM  

jshine: wesmon: The megabank HSBC gets caught blatantly laundering hundreds of millions of dolalrs for the Sinaloa cartel, one of the most bloody of Mexican drug gangs. No one is even prosecuted.


A sister and brother in Missouri get busted with a few plants. Several years in prison.

Yeah, this is the United States I have come to expect. Different laws for different classes of people.

Isn't HSBC British/Scottish?


Yes, they are one of the biggest banks in Britain, but their money laundering was in the U.S. and they walked away with a fine and no charges. And I was wrong before, it was billions of dollars not millions.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-02/hsbc-judge-approves-1-9b-dr ug -money-laundering-accord.html

Meanwhile, us serfs go to prison for having a couple marijuana plants.
 
2014-04-16 03:52:02 AM  
Did participate in getting the LLE off of citizen's backs in Columbia, several years ago (`ticket' if caught by city cops).  However, it has always served those I've known, who indulge in such, to place grows ONLY on the properties of elected officials and cops.

State will flip quick, when it does.  And, you can bet, the seed stock will be Roundup-!! Ready...

/don't stray from the I70 corridor, pilgrim
 
2014-04-16 03:58:16 AM  
Terrible. A friend was taken to the cleaners in college. Ratted out for selling by a guy who had run from the police on a motorcycle. You know let off the guy who endangered lives in favor of busting a low level pot dealer. Buddy took it in stride learned from his mistakes. Can't wait for decriminalization at the very least.
 
2014-04-16 03:59:28 AM  
I'm really curious to see what happens with the recent bill to legalize pot in Missouri goes.

Put up to a vote, I think it could actually pass.
 
2014-04-16 04:09:38 AM  
Sounded like the judge was pissed at their lawyer and took it out on them.
 
2014-04-16 04:10:21 AM  

PreMortem: Judge in question:
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Seriously hope they get some kind of favorable ruling in appeal, if it can be appealed.


I don't think you can appeal your own guilty plea.

That judge is an idiot, out to prove a point. Said he was perfectly happy to give them 120 days each until he got pissed off at their lawyer, then took it out on them.

Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. I can't seem to find where the prosecution had to prove its case (missing evidence, no warrant to enter for initial search)... but the defendants certainly had to prove their innocence. Pretty sure that's ass-backwards. The judge and every LEO involved should be fired and barred from having anything to do with anything remotely resembling law enforcement (and that includes rent-a-cop) ever again.
 
Skr
2014-04-16 04:12:04 AM  
Well those 20 plants are enough to kill 100 kids when they inject it. Punishment definitely fits the crime.
 
2014-04-16 04:15:46 AM  

Aigoo: PreMortem: Judge in question:
[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 554x434]

Seriously hope they get some kind of favorable ruling in appeal, if it can be appealed.

I don't think you can appeal your own guilty plea.

That judge is an idiot, out to prove a point. Said he was perfectly happy to give them 120 days each until he got pissed off at their lawyer, then took it out on them.

Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. I can't seem to find where the prosecution had to prove its case (missing evidence, no warrant to enter for initial search)... but the defendants certainly had to prove their innocence. Pretty sure that's ass-backwards. The judge and every LEO involved should be fired and barred from having anything to do with anything remotely resembling law enforcement (and that includes rent-a-cop) ever again.


Sounds like there were a bunch of idiots in that case. It sounded like the lawyer was an idiot for using these 2 people's case for his grandstand against weed criminalization. The two defendants for listening to their idiot lawyer and not taking the plea deal right away when they were offering probation and very little, if any, jail time. And the judge was an idiot for taking his anger for what the lawyer was doing out on the defendants.  Surprisingly the only person that sounds like he wasn't an idiot in this case was the prosecutor.
 
2014-04-16 04:17:36 AM  

Skr: Well those 20 plants are enough to kill 100 kids when they inject it. Punishment definitely fits the crime.


50 kids, if they start doing lines of marijuanas.  But yeah, 100 kids.  Especially with those dirty pot needles.
 
2014-04-16 04:20:23 AM  

CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.


Only a matter of time before it is no longer illegal anywhere. Just imagine how much jail space that will free up for actual criminals, you know, the sort that actually harm people.
 
2014-04-16 04:51:45 AM  
www.marijuanaplanet.us
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-16 05:02:09 AM  
Gave it up a Loooong time ago, when it went up over $20/oz. We used to buy Pounds at $160 split it up. sell 1/2 of them at $20 and smoke the rest of them. When the contact we had jumped the price past $175, we quit. A 6 pack from the corner liquor store was cheaper and less hassle. When us Old guys talk about the Good Old Days, Man! You have no Idea!
 
2014-04-16 05:07:54 AM  
FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?
 
2014-04-16 05:11:02 AM  
So if you kill someone who grows pot while you're driving drunk, you get no prison time at all!
 
2014-04-16 05:14:43 AM  
Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use. That probably wouldn't fly even in Washington or Colorado.

SevenizGud: FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?


Whether they thought it was right, they'd probably figure since the law was passed that makes it illegal is OK.  However, our trial court system where you either have to plead guilty or go broke trying to prove yourself innocent, they might have a very big problem with.  Of course, that's just my opinion man...
 
2014-04-16 05:17:33 AM  
Well then, I won't grow 20 pot plants.
 
2014-04-16 05:22:52 AM  
I think it's time Congress started going after these idiot judges and prosecuting attorneys.

Justice may be blind, but these folks throw stupid and vindictive into it. I guess they would have gotten lighter sentences if they had gone out and killed someone. Now, that's acceptable where having and growing the 'Evil Weed' is not.

Plus every time I read about a prosecutor with over a 98% conviction rate, I wonder how many innocents he managed to slam behind bars.

Not too long back, I read where a District Attorney was fighting DNA tests that said a guy he put away 20 years ago for murder was innocent. He was claiming the results didn't matter, they had the guys confession -- which he gave up after about 24 hours of 'questioning'. He even had a judge with him blocking efforts of the Innocence Project to free the man or get him a new trial.

Basically, he was covering his arse, since the inevitable multi-million dollar lawsuit against the city would not look good on his record.

Throwing those kids in prison was a serious miscarriage of justice. Both the Judge and the Prosecutor need to be brought before the disciplinary Committee of the Bar. As much as I hate lawyers, their disciplinary committee tends to be harsh on those who take too many liberties.
 
2014-04-16 05:54:11 AM  
It's a far greater violation of ethics to unjustly deprive someone of liberty, i.e. the judge and arresting officers should be in jail.
 
2014-04-16 05:55:57 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use. That probably wouldn't fly even in Washington or Colorado.


Especially when you also have a bunch of weapons, body armor, and a sales ledger with large amounts moving around in your condo.
 
2014-04-16 05:57:38 AM  
That condo looks like a house to me.
 
2014-04-16 06:12:04 AM  

TomD9938: Hit for distribution, it sounds like.


Well, you'd be drunk too, if you were running someone over for distributing. Wait...
 
2014-04-16 06:20:50 AM  
Ha!  Joke's on you judge.  You have to pay for their incarceration out of your property taxes.
 
2014-04-16 06:30:26 AM  
iruntheinternet.com
 
2014-04-16 06:33:52 AM  
Where does the short barreled rifle violation come in. That should be another 10 years of federal prison. Set aside the weed part, I thought fark was all about throwing the book at gun law offenders.
And so much for the guy's promising gunsmith career, since he's never allowed to touch a gun again.
 
2014-04-16 07:27:10 AM  
I had a friend who killed someone dui. He got one year.

(This was about a decade ago)

Around the same time, a kid in the local trailer park got multiple years for just a few potted plants spotted during a domestic disturbance.

I dont remember, but I'm sure he also got caught with other society-destroying kingpin stuff like a few zip lock bags and a shiatty metal bowl.
 
2014-04-16 07:28:05 AM  

Nidiot: CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.

Only a matter of time before it is no longer illegal anywhere. Just imagine how much jail space that will free up for actual criminals, you know, the sort that actually harm people.


Bankers??
 
2014-04-16 07:57:10 AM  
Remember.

Weed is worse than murder.
 
2014-04-16 07:57:52 AM  

wesmon: The megabank HSBC gets caught blatantly laundering hundreds of millions of dolalrs for the Sinaloa cartel, one of the most bloody of Mexican drug gangs. No one is even prosecuted.


A sister and brother in Missouri get busted with a few plants. Several years in prison.

Yeah, this is the United States I have come to expect. Different laws for different classes of people.


Matt Taibbi gave a great interview yesterday that brought out this point:

MATT TAIBBI: So, HSBC, again, this is one of the world's largest banks. It's Europe's largest bank. And a few years ago, they got caught, swept up for a variety of offenses, money-laundering offenses. But one of them involved admitting that they had laundered $850 million for a pair-for two drug cartels, one in Mexico and one in South America, and including the notorious Sinaloa drug cartel in Mexico that is suspected in thousands of murders.

And in that case, they paid a fine; they paid a $1.9 billion fine. And some of the executives had to defer their bonuses for a period of five years-not give them up, defer them. But there were no individual consequences for any of the executives. Nobody had to pull money out of their own pockets, and nobody did a single day in jail in that case.

And that, to me, was an incredibly striking case. I ran that very day to the courthouse here in New York, and I asked around to the public defenders, you know, "What's the dumbest drug case you had today?" And I found somebody who had been thrown in Rikers for 47 days for having a joint in his pocket.
 
2014-04-16 08:02:45 AM  
Nobody has posted yet bout the bullsh*t premise used to enter their apartment and the p.o.s snitch maintenance guy? Farkers, I am disappointed!
I seldom smoke weed but refuse to live in any of these backward ass states with such ridiculous penalties.
 
2014-04-16 08:05:01 AM  
Protip:
when the prosecutor offers to recommend a lighter sentence for a plea bargain, tell him to go fark himself. Demand a reduction in charges in return for a guilty plea. Otherwise the prosecutor has sold you something that he can't actually guarantee - once it goes to the judge, the judge can do whatever the fark he wants to and you have little to no recourse for appeal.
 
2014-04-16 08:13:36 AM  
Every one of the sick farks who were involved in sending these people to jail should be ashamed of themselves.  They won't be, of course.
 
2014-04-16 08:16:05 AM  
But remember, according to the police legalizing pot won't affect the incaceration rate.
 
2014-04-16 08:21:15 AM  
Land of the Free™
 
2014-04-16 08:24:15 AM  

mcnguyen: Every one of the sick farks who were involved in sending these people to jail should be ashamed of themselves.  They won't be, of course.




Ashamed? They should be the ones in jail.
This madness of using the law to do things that go beyond all common sense is tearing the nation apart by ruining our society and economy. It's hurting millions of people over what is merely another addiction problem.
Thousands are dying over a plant.
Yet we keep giving these people more power instead of running them out the building like the prohibitionists they are.
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with us...
 
2014-04-16 08:37:07 AM  

SevenizGud: I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity


To avoid rank hypocrisy you would have to give yourself a decade in the gas chamber.
 
2014-04-16 08:38:33 AM  

wesmon: The megabank HSBC gets caught blatantly laundering hundreds of millions of dolalrs for the Sinaloa cartel, one of the most bloody of Mexican drug gangs. No one is even prosecuted.


A sister and brother in Missouri get busted with a few plants. Several years in prison.

Yeah, this is the United States I have come to expect. Different laws for different classes of people.


^ This.  Drug laws are for little people.
 
2014-04-16 08:39:53 AM  
unjust
 
2014-04-16 08:41:16 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use


It's also hard to say they were selling if the cops didn't make any buys.

Land of the Free and all that.
 
2014-04-16 08:43:10 AM  

AgentPothead: Missouri is a shiat hole and moving away from there was the best thing I ever did.


I have friends who moved to Missouri.

They say everyone there calls the state Misery.
 
2014-04-16 08:44:34 AM  

phrawgh: [iruntheinternet.com image 750x500]


i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-16 08:49:27 AM  
You mean zero prison time and a $175 fine like Matthew Broderick got?
 
2014-04-16 08:58:42 AM  

Nidiot: CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.

Only a matter of time before it is no longer illegal anywhere. Just imagine how much jail space that will free up for actual criminals, you know, the sort that actually harm people.


Like prosecutors and lawyers?
More is the pity.
 
2014-04-16 09:07:18 AM  
Good. Two bad people off the streets. Shortened a rifle? Body armor? Drug sales? Of course Fark thinks that is fine, but I do not.
 
2014-04-16 09:13:53 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use.


Probably true, but it depends on how they were growing them. If they had a grow area with a low ceiling, for example, they may have been keeping the flowering plants small and had more as a result. They may also have been growing autoflowers. They also may have had a separate area for reproduction, if they were trying to grow from seeds instead of cloning. And speaking of reproduction, they might have had a bunch of seedlings or clones around as well.
 
2014-04-16 09:21:06 AM  
And this is why DnD should always retain the Lawful Evil alignment.
 
2014-04-16 09:24:34 AM  
Oh no, a babby-killing, heat-seeking, anti-tank 15.75" short barreled rifle. The guy is lucky he didn't get the needle for that!
 
2014-04-16 09:47:47 AM  

nullptr: Oh no, a babby-killing, heat-seeking, anti-tank 15.75" short barreled rifle. The guy is lucky he didn't get the needle for that!


You know it was really 16 inches and they measured it wrong on purpose.  That's why most barrels are at lease a quarter inch over 16.
 
2014-04-16 09:54:23 AM  

AgentPothead: Missouri is a shiat hole and moving away from there was the best thing I ever did.


And by your screen name I believe you are correct.
 
2014-04-16 09:54:42 AM  

RockofAges: Bigdogdaddy: Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use. That probably wouldn't fly even in Washington or Colorado.

SevenizGud: FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?

Whether they thought it was right, they'd probably figure since the law was passed that makes it illegal is OK.  However, our trial court system where you either have to plead guilty or go broke trying to prove yourself innocent, they might have a very big problem with.  Of course, that's just my opinion man...

How many batches of wine are you allowed to have fermenting at once in your home? As far as I know, there's no numerical value attached.

Just saying, the "personal use" issue is a cop out. Either citizens are free to cultivate the herb or not. Any liberty loving individual (hopefully any red blooded American) would be able to identify this as both hypocritical and against the principles of individual freedoms / choice.


There are actually limits to homebrewing/winemaking. I think the federal limit is 100 gallons per year per person for personal use, up to 200 gallons per household. Individual states can also have additional limits.
 
Oak
2014-04-16 10:08:56 AM  
Just keep voting for incumbents, folks.  Everything's fine, and even when it's not, it's the fault of those other peoples' incumbents, not yours.  Yours are great.  Really.
 
2014-04-16 10:54:06 AM  

Oak: Just keep voting for incumbents, folks.  Everything's fine, and even when it's not, it's the fault of those other peoples' incumbents, not yours.  Yours are great.  Really.


As long as they promise to protect the children, I am fine with them doing whatever they deem necessary. Go team!!!
 
2014-04-16 10:55:35 AM  
Breaking the law has consequences?  Holy shiat!  Somebody blog this quick!
 
2014-04-16 11:32:02 AM  

CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.


Working at a resort here in CO, I gotta say, I didn't know how it would do... I had doubts about the whole "Amsterdam of America" thing... but I've met at least a few hundred people, just in my little clothing store, who were quite open about coming here for the weed, and choosing CO over UT or CA mountains just because of the legal pot... the extra weird thing is... it seems to be mostly people in their 40s and 50s who are  just matter-of-fact about it. Either way, revenue for my shop is up, and I welcome anything that draws more customers to the area.

//it was dumb to put people in jail for pot anyways.
///jail is NOT rehab
 
2014-04-16 11:33:19 AM  

JRoo:


Man, I can never tell whether these are supposed to make me want to stay sober or smoke weed. Wild parties? Weird orgies? Unleashed passions? Sounds like a hell of a good time! The half-naked girls just seals the deal...
 
2014-04-16 12:15:01 PM  

RockofAges: dsmith42: RockofAges: Bigdogdaddy: Hard to claim 20 pot plants is for personal use. That probably wouldn't fly even in Washington or Colorado.

SevenizGud: FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?

Whether they thought it was right, they'd probably figure since the law was passed that makes it illegal is OK.  However, our trial court system where you either have to plead guilty or go broke trying to prove yourself innocent, they might have a very big problem with.  Of course, that's just my opinion man...

How many batches of wine are you allowed to have fermenting at once in your home? As far as I know, there's no numerical value attached.

Just saying, the "personal use" issue is a cop out. Either citizens are free to cultivate the herb or not. Any liberty loving individual (hopefully any red blooded American) would be able to identify this as both hypocritical and against the principles of individual freedoms / choice.

There are actually limits to homebrewing/winemaking. I think the federal limit is 100 gallons per year per person for personal use, up to 200 gallons per household. Individual states can also have additional limits.

Interesting. Another reason Canada is more than USA's hat. No such limit here.


It's all about the revenue.  That's why you can't make moonshine without a thousand regulations and barriers to entry.  It's so easy that a lot of people actually would.
 
2014-04-16 01:06:02 PM  
I think the REAL story here is a 36 year old woman is living with her 34 year old brother.  I'll bet they were using the Devil's Weed to fuel their incest-filled orgies!  I'll bet if they dig up the yard they'll find  more evidence of debauchery.
 
2014-04-16 01:24:32 PM  
Actually, I just went out and read about this.  These two screwed up (and their lawyer is a moron).  They were offered a 120 day jail sentence and probation, but turned it down.  Their lawyer convinced them to plead guilty and waive trial.  Oops.  The brother got an extra 7 years for possession of an illegal firearm.  They had a ledger showing sales, paraphernalia, bullet-proof vests, weapons, etc.  This wasn't just a couple of crazy kids growing some pot for fun.  While I am all for legalization, right now it isn't.  The sister will probably only serve 2 to 3 year and the brother 4 to 5.  Tony Baretta - "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".
 
2014-04-16 01:47:05 PM  
This piece of sewage drove away and left her victim to die. She served 180 days in jail.

http://www.kvue.com/news/local/Nestande-to-be-released-from-jail-Fri da y-224560321.html
 
2014-04-16 01:59:52 PM  
I like that "Minimum Trolling" is a thing
 
2014-04-16 02:03:18 PM  
Unless your a rich kid from Texas. Then you get sent to county club rehab. At taxpayer expense.
 
2014-04-16 02:18:32 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Nidiot: CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.

Only a matter of time before it is no longer illegal anywhere. Just imagine how much jail space that will free up for actual criminals, you know, the sort that actually harm people.

Bankers??


www.cinemablend.com

/hot like the hellfire and damnation these bankers deserve
 
2014-04-16 03:54:43 PM  

SevenizGud: FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?


Nope.
http://www.denverpost.com/homegarden/ci_24782729/growing-your-own-mar i juana-colorado-legal-doesnt-mean">http://www.denverpost.com/homegarde n/ci_24782729/growing-your-own-mari juana-colorado-legal-doesnt-mean
"Amendment 64 allows home cultivation of marijuana, up to six plants per adult."
"Even in jurisdictions that don't allow retail marijuana shops, it's legal to grow your own on your own property, within the specifications of Amendment 64."

The conflict between state & federal law is still getting kicked around of course, but there's no real reason for the feds to challenge it. Cases where state law gets stomped on by federal is usually when there's a constitutional issue with the state's law.
 
2014-04-16 04:59:01 PM  

CruiserTwelve: I keep forgetting that cannabis is still illegal in most places.

Just like Obama and Holder.
 
2014-04-16 05:23:25 PM  
Pappy always said, "Don't piss off the police".

Applies double for judges.
 
2014-04-16 07:39:24 PM  

Syrrh: SevenizGud: FTFA:
The DePriests spent two years and tens of thousands of dollars fighting their case before deciding to plead guilty. Proceeding to trial would have cost another $4,000, Natalie said, and "we were broke."

Stopped. Reading. There.

If I am the judge in this case, then I give them 15 years for aggravated stupidity, and to separate them from society so that the stupid doesn't rub off on innocent citizens of the community.

In other news, it really is against federal law to grow a weed on your own property for your own use, even when it is legal in your state. Think about that for a second. What do you imagine the framers of our Constitution would think of that? Land of the free? Really?

Nope.
http://www.denverpost.com/homegarden/ci_24782729/growing-your-own-mar i juana-colorado-legal-doesnt-mean">http://www.denverpost.com/homegarde n/ci_24782729/growing-your-own-mari juana-colorado-legal-doesnt-mean
"Amendment 64 allows home cultivation of marijuana, up to six plants per adult."
"Even in jurisdictions that don't allow retail marijuana shops, it's legal to grow your own on your own property, within the specifications of Amendment 64."

The conflict between state & federal law is still getting kicked around of course, but there's no real reason for the feds to challenge it. Cases where state law gets stomped on by federal is usually when there's a constitutional issue with the state's law.


Federal law always trumps state law because of the supremacy clause. It's why states rights is a joke. States have rights the same way Dilbert is an empowered employee. Aka, the right to make choices over trivial things the Feds can't be bothered to make laws over.

Not to mention the ever broadening scope of commerce clause.
 
2014-04-16 09:58:08 PM  
That's seriously messed up that their lives are ruined while someone doing the same thing in my state just makes money and spends it on goods and services.

This is America, Americans should and need to DEMAND FULL cannabis amnesty for all 50 states and territories.    What's right is right. Why should they suffer? Fark, (and I mean that in every way) it's plain stupid and cruel, especially cruel, that anyone in the other 48 (behind the times) states would be subjected to such despicable treatment in a so-called free country.

We need full cannabis/marijuanahash/hemp amnesty or else we're not being honest.

I appreciate living in a state that enjoys special rulings, but the federal government, or at least the State of Missouri needs to look deep into its heart, and ask itself: "Is this what we want to be known for? Is this the course of action that truly benefits society? "

Stories like these are horror shows.

Let them go, or don't call yourself Americans.

/sympathy puff
 
2014-04-17 09:37:45 AM  
Perhaps they should...........
stuffpoint.com
 
2014-04-17 09:40:33 AM  

ChoNeko: Perhaps they should...........
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Please cite any success with this bullzhit.
 
2014-04-17 09:47:32 AM  
We all make choices, they chose to break the law.
I have a little less than zero sympathy for them.

(Don't like the law? change it, Don't break it)
 
2014-04-17 03:25:31 PM  

RockofAges: It's called Civil Disobedience

I got no problem with Civil Disobedience, but part of Civil Disobedience

 is being ready and willing to be the Martir and accept the consequences that follow until the change happens.

I suspect these two are not ready.
 
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