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2014-04-15 03:03:01 PM  
They must not have seen how the first film in the series ended.  :(

/jeebus this is getting out of hand
 
2014-04-15 03:06:07 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: They must not have seen how the first film in the series ended.  :(

/jeebus this is getting out of hand


It ended with the battle of Plataea, which the Greeks won.
 
2014-04-15 03:08:23 PM  
img1.wikia.nocookie.net


40K thread !
 
2014-04-15 03:11:22 PM  
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-04-15 03:15:32 PM  
The movies?

www.planetcalypsoforum.com
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-15 03:20:43 PM  
In those days the mad Emperor of Russia gibbered on his throne in Moscow, while around his vast empire forces gathered and shifted, as if on strings held by his ethereal hands. The hordes of Western Chaos shifted and gathered in return. At last on the plains of southern Europe the cowards showed their face, and the battle was joined.

In the grim darkness of the 21st Century, there is only war.
 
2014-04-15 03:56:56 PM  
Or maybe nothing happened, and CNN just made up something that will boost ratings.  Who's to tell?
 
2014-04-15 04:17:34 PM  

lilbjorn: Or maybe nothing happened, and CNN just made up something that will boost ratings.  Who's to tell?


We'll need to consult the Wolf Blitzer hologram to be sure.
 
2014-04-15 05:17:03 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: lilbjorn: Or maybe nothing happened, and CNN just made up something that will boost ratings.  Who's to tell?

We'll need to consult the Wolf Blitzer hologram to be sure.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2014-04-15 06:00:55 PM  
At what point is obama obliged to return the pease prize?
 
2014-04-15 06:02:25 PM  
I hope they are in the process of getting the spark notes from Finland.
 
2014-04-15 06:02:54 PM  
Worked out pretty well for the guys here -- didn't it??

ticknortribe.com
 
2014-04-15 06:03:00 PM  
Using 300 military personnell to get rid of fat pro-Russian demonstrators that have taken over policemen is reasonable.

The fact that Putin will use this as an excuse to invade and occupy the Ukraine is not.

But the Ukrainian government is doing the right thing. And if Moscow invades, there are US warships in the region with signals and AWACS support. Ukraine may be at a disadvantage militarily, but unless wants to commit suicide and attack US warships, at least the Ukrainian army won't have to worry about fog of war problems as much as the Russians will.
 
2014-04-15 06:03:28 PM  
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2014-04-15 06:04:14 PM  
Maybe they're just tired of playing games and intend on forcing Russia's hand.  Right now, playing the waiting game isn't working for Ukraine.
 
2014-04-15 06:05:28 PM  
I'm sure they won't have a problem just enforcing the border and hassling any invasion by Russia. They don't have to stop the Russians; just being there means they would actively be able to report invasion details to NATO and the UN.

Not that the UN would do anything about it, of course.
 
2014-04-15 06:08:26 PM  
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2014-04-15 06:09:39 PM  
Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.
 
2014-04-15 06:11:33 PM  
Has Ukraine politely asked Russia to stop the shenanigans yet? Morally, I think it's a tough sell to go right into shooty bomby stuff unless you've sent a formal request to the aggressor that they stop aggressing.
 
2014-04-15 06:11:41 PM  
This!  Is!  Kharkiv!

/kinda rhymes
 
2014-04-15 06:13:58 PM  
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/oblig n stuff
 
2014-04-15 06:15:02 PM  
ftfa: "The pro-Russian mayor of Slaviansk claimed Tuesday that a Ukrainian military convoy including troops and armored vehicles had now surrounded the town, Russian state news agency ITAR-Tass reported."

Sounds like an invitation for the russians to come on in and protect them.
 
2014-04-15 06:16:17 PM  

Infernalist: Maybe they're just tired of playing games and intend on forcing Russia's hand.


And maybe they plan to offer a certain chunk of Ukrainian land to the Russians that's north of Kiev by the Belarus border. Perhaps it can be referred to as some sort of "exclusion zone" that's intended as a peace offering and gesture of goodwill.
 
2014-04-15 06:17:23 PM  

One Bad Apple: [img1.wikia.nocookie.net image 640x512]


40K thread !


Hmmm... a Leman Russ tank. How about its big brother? The Banehammer?

wh40k.lexicanum.com
 
2014-04-15 06:17:40 PM  

dj_spanmaster: I'm sure they won't have a problem just enforcing the border and hassling any invasion by Russia. They don't have to stop the Russians; just being there means they would actively be able to report invasion details to NATO and the UN.

Not that the UN would do anything about it, of course.


Sure they would.  they'd send one hell of a nasty-gram.  I bet they'd even use BOLD ALL CAPS FONT TO EMPHASIZE THEIR ANGER

xD
 
2014-04-15 06:17:46 PM  

Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.


Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.
 
2014-04-15 06:19:40 PM  

Brick-House: At what point is obama obliged to return the pease prize?


Didn't he promise to reset relations with Russia in 2009 and forgave them for their invasion of Georgia.

Indeed.

Funny how everyone has forgetting that whole reset part. Almost everyone.
 
2014-04-15 06:23:03 PM  

uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.


Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10
 
2014-04-15 06:26:34 PM  
Only 300 troops?

gonzotown.files.wordpress.com

Stand back, I got this.
 
2014-04-15 06:27:23 PM  
Seriously, just ~300?  They sent what, 2 companies?  I know they have a lot on their minds internally, but couldn't it have been an even battalion at least?

I guess if they don't want to be seen as overbearing from Russia's point of view in the slightest, this might work... but I sure hope there are 5-10x as many actually moving into position, and this is just the public feint that was revealed.

/or CNN is just bonkers, again
 
2014-04-15 06:29:14 PM  

Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10


Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.
 
2014-04-15 06:30:26 PM  

Killer Cars: Infernalist: Maybe they're just tired of playing games and intend on forcing Russia's hand.

And maybe they plan to offer a certain chunk of Ukrainian land to the Russians that's north of Kiev by the Belarus border. Perhaps it can be referred to as some sort of "exclusion zone" that's intended as a peace offering and gesture of goodwill.


What you did there, I see it.

It even has a park too! Fun for whole family!
 
2014-04-15 06:30:42 PM  

doglover: Only 300 troops?



Stand back, I got this.


He looks ill. Is that what this about? Is Putin on his death bed like Hitler at the end of WW2? And now he's just getting desperate for some invadey, conquery, land grabby stuff??
 
2014-04-15 06:35:40 PM  

uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.


And what woudl you do? Start WWIII?
 
2014-04-15 06:35:40 PM  

uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.


Notthisshiatagain.jpg

We already know that you think that President Obama can't do anything right. In this case, what do you suggest? War with Russia? If we step in, that's what will happen. The USA has so little capital when it comes to international support, due to recent events. So we are stuck appeasing a bit, it seems to me anyway.
 
2014-04-15 06:38:57 PM  
I've seen better miracles. So long as they continue to roll 6's, they should be ok...
 
2014-04-15 06:39:34 PM  
SlothB77
Brick-House
uber humper

All in the same thread! It's like a House-of-Tards

Of course the important story is this:
Ukraine government forces repelled an attack Tuesday by about 30 gunmen at an airport.

Seems the Russians were trying to pull a "Crimea."
That only works once.

And UN observers on their way to eastern Ukraine finally.
This time it isn't going to go Putin's way, and without a land bridge to the Crimea, it will all have been for nothing.

Poor Putin. He should have offered Ukraine a $50Billion trade deal instead of the messily $15Billion. Too late now.
 
2014-04-15 06:39:36 PM  

tylerdurden217: uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.

Notthisshiatagain.jpg

We already know that you think that President Obama can't do anything right. In this case, what do you suggest? War with Russia? If we step in, that's what will happen. The USA has so little capital when it comes to international support, due to recent events. So we are stuck appeasing a bit, it seems to me anyway.


He's a troll. I mean, look at that handle: Uberhumper.


img.fark.net
 
2014-04-15 06:41:03 PM  

Felgraf: uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.

And what woudl you do? Start WWIII?


Doing nothing will start WWIII. Early action prevents a worse outcome later.  How do you handle a bully? Let him grow?

But Obama can't do it.  A real leader could threaten Putin and Putin would consider.  Obama threatens, and Putin knows it means nothing.
 
2014-04-15 06:42:57 PM  

Wessoman: tylerdurden217: uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.

Notthisshiatagain.jpg

We already know that you think that President Obama can't do anything right. In this case, what do you suggest? War with Russia? If we step in, that's what will happen. The USA has so little capital when it comes to international support, due to recent events. So we are stuck appeasing a bit, it seems to me anyway.

He's a troll. I mean, look at that handle: Uberhumper.


[img.fark.net image 376x290]


You're the one who takes their farking too seriously, not me.
 
2014-04-15 06:43:51 PM  
 
2014-04-15 06:46:43 PM  

grumpfuff: Pete?


Dinner crew
 
2014-04-15 06:47:49 PM  
Ah, I see the Putin Fan Boys are out in force.

Well, I don't know that I'd call them Putin Fan Boys so much as Anything But Obama.
 
2014-04-15 06:48:02 PM  

uber humper: Doing nothing will start WWIII. Early action prevents a worse outcome later. How do you handle a bully? Let him grow?

But Obama can't do it. A real leader could threaten Putin and Putin would consider. Obama threatens, and Putin knows it means nothing.


Threaten Putin? Most of the US public (Including you) couldn't locate Ukraine on the map, much less send their sons to fight and die for it. Especially since we are weary and weak from fighting over a decade in a meaningless war in Iraq, also under the auspices of "Showing strength". So no.

What Obama is doing is very smart. Keep diplomatic channels open, while quietly moving military assets to the region.
 
2014-04-15 06:48:06 PM  
Fark: ur a troll no you are no you no you I said it first I can haz cheeseburger strawman.
 
2014-04-15 06:48:47 PM  

uber humper: Doing nothing will start WWIII. Early action prevents a worse outcome later.  How do you handle a bully? Let him grow?

But Obama can't do it.  A real leader could threaten Putin and Putin would consider.  Obama threatens, and Putin knows it means nothing.


Like when Bush did nothing when Putin invaded Georgia.

We're actually still recovering from WWIII.
 
2014-04-15 06:49:24 PM  
Wow.  Lot of trolls in this thread.  If I put them all on ignore, there would be about 9 posts to read.

I do like the new talking point about how Obama was personally leading the "invasion" of the ranch in Nevada.

Distort and distribute.  GOP plan A.
 
2014-04-15 06:51:43 PM  

Wessoman: uber humper: Doing nothing will start WWIII. Early action prevents a worse outcome later. How do you handle a bully? Let him grow?

But Obama can't do it. A real leader could threaten Putin and Putin would consider. Obama threatens, and Putin knows it means nothing.

Threaten Putin? Most of the US public (Including you) couldn't locate Ukraine on the map, much less send their sons to fight and die for it. Especially since we are weary and weak from fighting over a decade in a meaningless war in Iraq, also under the auspices of "Showing strength". So no.

What Obama is doing is very smart. Keep diplomatic channels open, while quietly moving military assets to the region.


I gotta block you. Too many personal insults. I guess when I took a shot at Obama it was too personal for you
 
2014-04-15 06:53:33 PM  

uber humper: Felgraf: uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.

And what woudl you do? Start WWIII?

Doing nothing will start WWIII. Early action prevents a worse outcome later.  How do you handle a bully? Let him grow?

But Obama can't do it.  A real leader could threaten Putin and Putin would consider.  Obama threatens, and Putin knows it means nothing.


You still didn't answer the question. Threaten Putin with what? What would you do?
 
2014-04-15 06:54:47 PM  

chuggernaught: Wow.  Lot of trolls in this thread.  If I put them all on ignore, there would be about 9 posts to read.

I do like the new talking point about how Obama was personally leading the "invasion" of the ranch in Nevada.

Distort and distribute.  GOP plan A.


A little tongue in cheek that people took too seriously.
 
2014-04-15 06:56:06 PM  

chuggernaught: Wow.  Lot of trolls in this thread.  If I put them all on ignore, there would be about 9 posts to read.

I do like the new talking point about how Obama was personally leading the "invasion" of the ranch in Nevada.

Distort and distribute.  GOP plan A.


Wow, I never thought I'd say this, but jumping on Putin's dong is all the GOP has left. Especially since Putin kinda took over and brutalized a nation on Bushie's watch.

I guess GOP shills dream of living under a facist state. You want "strong leadership", guys? Go to Russia. Feel free to live there. After all, you guys will blend right in. Chubby guys in camo with Kalishnikovs who take over government buildings? That's right up your alley, yo.
 
2014-04-15 06:57:17 PM  
Nice! Now we have an "I unfriend you" too! Good vittles.
 
2014-04-15 06:57:50 PM  

uber humper: Worked out pretty well for the guys here -- didn't it??

[ticknortribe.com image 850x564]


You mean the 3 Amigos?

/"sew like the wind"
 
2014-04-15 06:58:15 PM  

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: uber humper: Felgraf: uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.

And what woudl you do? Start WWIII?

Doing nothing will start WWIII. Early action prevents a worse outcome later.  How do you handle a bully? Let him grow?

But Obama can't do it.  A real leader could threaten Putin and Putin would consider.  Obama threatens, and Putin knows it means nothing.

You still didn't answer the question. Threaten Putin with what? What would you do?


Me. I would say that I would put up a no fly zone and bomb air fields if Putin were to invade. Putin wouldn't do it. He couldn't handle the repercussions (Russian domestic, and militarily). That would stop his march and probably get him kicked out of the Kremlin.


What's better? He's not gonna listen to diplomacy. He has Europe by the balls.
 
2014-04-15 06:59:02 PM  
Wow, this thread got stupid right quick.
 
2014-04-15 06:59:53 PM  

uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.


For real! What we really need is another privileged son of the aristocracy who spent half of his adult life in a drunken stupor, or maybe another actor who plays a convincing football player. Quick, can anyone check to see if the owner of the Astros is available?
 
2014-04-15 07:00:58 PM  

Wessoman: chuggernaught: Wow.  Lot of trolls in this thread.  If I put them all on ignore, there would be about 9 posts to read.

I do like the new talking point about how Obama was personally leading the "invasion" of the ranch in Nevada.

Distort and distribute.  GOP plan A.

Wow, I never thought I'd say this, but jumping on Putin's dong is all the GOP has left. Especially since Putin kinda took over and brutalized a nation on Bushie's watch.

I guess GOP shills dream of living under a facist state. You want "strong leadership", guys? Go to Russia. Feel free to live there. After all, you guys will blend right in. Chubby guys in camo with Kalishnikovs who take over government buildings? That's right up your alley, yo.


Not to mention the outlawing of gay "propaganda" and the fact that employers can force their employees to pray and fire them if they don't. Bonus: they're the right color!
 
2014-04-15 07:01:46 PM  
 
2014-04-15 07:06:57 PM  

uber humper: Recent Russian ICBM test:  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/15/russia-test-fires-icb m -amid-tension-over-ukraine/

Such a test is not unusual - Russia just last month test-fired an ICBM - but it comes amid heightened tensions with the West after the country's recent invasion of Crimea.
...
Prior to launching the missile, Russia issued notifications in compliance with the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, Col. Warren said.
 ...
"It's important to I think for me to assure the American people that we were watching [the launch] and that we immediately assessed that there is no threat," Col. Warren said.



OH NOES! PANIC!!!!!!
 
2014-04-15 07:08:25 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: shiat is totally hitting the fan this time, guys. THE WORLD IS ENDING but first can you click on our other articles?
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I've got stock in Vault-Tech Corporation, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2014-04-15 07:08:38 PM  

Wessoman: uber humper: Doing nothing will start WWIII. Early action prevents a worse outcome later. How do you handle a bully? Let him grow?

But Obama can't do it. A real leader could threaten Putin and Putin would consider. Obama threatens, and Putin knows it means nothing.

Threaten Putin? Most of the US public (Including you) couldn't locate Ukraine on the map, much less send their sons to fight and die for it. Especially since we are weary and weak from fighting over a decade in a meaningless war in Iraq, also under the auspices of "Showing strength". So no.

What Obama is doing is very smart. Keep diplomatic channels open, while quietly moving military assets to the region.


Plus the escalating sanctions. Russia's Finance Minister was saying today that their economy is in a pretty bad way. We're not doing sanctions because we're weak, but because that's where they are weak.

/Putin's daring us to punch him in the gut.
//We're going to kick him in the balls instead.
 
2014-04-15 07:09:22 PM  

grumpfuff: uber humper: Recent Russian ICBM test:  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/15/russia-test-fires-icb m -amid-tension-over-ukraine/

Such a test is not unusual - Russia just last month test-fired an ICBM - but it comes amid heightened tensions with the West after the country's recent invasion of Crimea.
...
Prior to launching the missile, Russia issued notifications in compliance with the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, Col. Warren said.
 ...
"It's important to I think for me to assure the American people that we were watching [the launch] and that we immediately assessed that there is no threat," Col. Warren said.


OH NOES! PANIC!!!!!!


I'm not panicking.  Just offering evidence of Russia's unwillingness to work in the diplomatic channels.
 
2014-04-15 07:09:49 PM  

tylerdurden217: He looks ill. Is that what this about? Is Putin on his death bed like Hitler at the end of WW2? And now he's just getting desperate for some invadey, conquery, land grabby stuff??


Don't you think he looks.....tired?
 
2014-04-15 07:12:21 PM  

uber humper: grumpfuff: uber humper: Recent Russian ICBM test:  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/15/russia-test-fires-icb m -amid-tension-over-ukraine/

Such a test is not unusual - Russia just last month test-fired an ICBM - but it comes amid heightened tensions with the West after the country's recent invasion of Crimea.
...
Prior to launching the missile, Russia issued notifications in compliance with the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, Col. Warren said.
 ...
"It's important to I think for me to assure the American people that we were watching [the launch] and that we immediately assessed that there is no threat," Col. Warren said.


OH NOES! PANIC!!!!!!

I'm not panicking.  Just offering evidence of Russia's unwillingness to work in the diplomatic channels.


So, them doing something in compliance with existing treaties is proof of unwillingness to work in diplomatic channels?
 
2014-04-15 07:12:26 PM  

uber humper: Me. I would say that I would put up a no fly zone and bomb air fields if Putin were to invade. Putin wouldn't do it. He couldn't handle the repercussions (Russian domestic, and militarily). That would stop his march and probably get him kicked out of the Kremlin.


What's better? He's not gonna listen to diplomacy. He has Europe by the balls.


You're right. NEver before has someone tried a military attack on russia. As we know, they fold immediately every time.
 
2014-04-15 07:14:11 PM  
Приходьте і отримаєте.
 
2014-04-15 07:15:39 PM  

washington-babylon: One Bad Apple: [img1.wikia.nocookie.net image 640x512]


40K thread !

Hmmm... a Leman Russ tank. How about its big brother? The Banehammer?

[wh40k.lexicanum.com image 800x414]


Somehow I read that as "The Banhammer" and thought that the moderators were going to get embroiled.
 
2014-04-15 07:15:52 PM  

grumpfuff: uber humper: grumpfuff: uber humper: Recent Russian ICBM test:  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/15/russia-test-fires-icb m -amid-tension-over-ukraine/

Such a test is not unusual - Russia just last month test-fired an ICBM - but it comes amid heightened tensions with the West after the country's recent invasion of Crimea.
...
Prior to launching the missile, Russia issued notifications in compliance with the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, Col. Warren said.
 ...
"It's important to I think for me to assure the American people that we were watching [the launch] and that we immediately assessed that there is no threat," Col. Warren said.


OH NOES! PANIC!!!!!!

I'm not panicking.  Just offering evidence of Russia's unwillingness to work in the diplomatic channels.

So, them doing something in compliance with existing treaties is proof of unwillingness to work in diplomatic channels?


I didn't say they broke the law/treaty. It's about their reason for doing so.


Anyway, you have have a good night. I gotta run. I'll see you soon when Russia invades UA's east.

/humper out
 
2014-04-15 07:16:17 PM  
VODAK FOR THE VODAK GOD!
 
2014-04-15 07:17:10 PM  

uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.


media3.giphy.com
 
2014-04-15 07:17:13 PM  

Felgraf: uber humper: Me. I would say that I would put up a no fly zone and bomb air fields if Putin were to invade. Putin wouldn't do it. He couldn't handle the repercussions (Russian domestic, and militarily). That would stop his march and probably get him kicked out of the Kremlin.


What's better? He's not gonna listen to diplomacy. He has Europe by the balls.

You're right. NEver before has someone tried a military attack on russia. As we know, they fold immediately every time.


If done correctly, by the right leader, there would be no invasion. Putin would fold.

/gotta run.
 
2014-04-15 07:20:37 PM  

uber humper: grumpfuff: uber humper: grumpfuff: uber humper: Recent Russian ICBM test:  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/15/russia-test-fires-icb m -amid-tension-over-ukraine/

Such a test is not unusual - Russia just last month test-fired an ICBM - but it comes amid heightened tensions with the West after the country's recent invasion of Crimea.
...
Prior to launching the missile, Russia issued notifications in compliance with the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, Col. Warren said.
 ...
"It's important to I think for me to assure the American people that we were watching [the launch] and that we immediately assessed that there is no threat," Col. Warren said.


OH NOES! PANIC!!!!!!

I'm not panicking.  Just offering evidence of Russia's unwillingness to work in the diplomatic channels.

So, them doing something in compliance with existing treaties is proof of unwillingness to work in diplomatic channels?

I didn't say they broke the law/treaty. It's about their reason for doing so.


Anyway, you have have a good night. I gotta run. I'll see you soon when Russia invades UA's east.

/humper out


United Airlines? Under Armor? University of Alabama?


And if you think the Russians are actually gonna invade the US, you are a silly, silly person.
 
2014-04-15 07:20:47 PM  

uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Doing nothing will start WWIII. Early action prevents a worse outcome later. How do you handle a bully? Let him grow?

But Obama can't do it. A real leader could threaten Putin and Putin would consider. Obama threatens, and Putin knows it means nothing.

Threaten Putin? Most of the US public (Including you) couldn't locate Ukraine on the map, much less send their sons to fight and die for it. Especially since we are weary and weak from fighting over a decade in a meaningless war in Iraq, also under the auspices of "Showing strength". So no.

What Obama is doing is very smart. Keep diplomatic channels open, while quietly moving military assets to the region.

I gotta block you. Too many personal insults. I guess when I took a shot at Obama it was too personal for you


Dude, seriously, I hope that was a joke.  That was about the most polite and personal-insult-free response you're likely to get in a month of Farking.

/cue "Thatsthejoke.jpg" I hope
 
2014-04-15 07:21:31 PM  

FarkingStan: I've seen better miracles. So long as they continue to roll 6's, they should be ok...


Putin just doesn't want Europe to get those extra 5 armies per turn.
 
2014-04-15 07:25:57 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: tylerdurden217: He looks ill. Is that what this about? Is Putin on his death bed like Hitler at the end of WW2? And now he's just getting desperate for some invadey, conquery, land grabby stuff??

Don't you think he looks.....tired?


doctoraday.files.wordpress.com

Approves.
 
2014-04-15 07:39:41 PM  
WTF are they supposed to do? Another country invades you. Do you whimper and acquiesce? F*ck no.  Слава Україні!
 
2014-04-15 07:40:27 PM  

ZAZ: In those days the mad Emperor of Russia gibbered on his throne in Moscow, while around his vast empire forces gathered and shifted, as if on strings held by his ethereal hands. The hordes of Western Chaos shifted and gathered in return. At last on the plains of southern Europe the cowards showed their face, and the battle was joined.

In the grim darkness of the 21st Century, there is only war.


Although it could be argued that Putin is a mad emperor. There is speculation that he is actually insane.
 
2014-04-15 07:43:18 PM  

ciberido: uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Doing nothing will start WWIII. Early action prevents a worse outcome later. How do you handle a bully? Let him grow?

But Obama can't do it. A real leader could threaten Putin and Putin would consider. Obama threatens, and Putin knows it means nothing.

Threaten Putin? Most of the US public (Including you) couldn't locate Ukraine on the map, much less send their sons to fight and die for it. Especially since we are weary and weak from fighting over a decade in a meaningless war in Iraq, also under the auspices of "Showing strength". So no.

What Obama is doing is very smart. Keep diplomatic channels open, while quietly moving military assets to the region.

I gotta block you. Too many personal insults. I guess when I took a shot at Obama it was too personal for you

Dude, seriously, I hope that was a joke.  That was about the most polite and personal-insult-free response you're likely to get in a month of Farking.

/cue "Thatsthejoke.jpg" I hope


Funny, he runs off screaming while at criticizing President Obama for being "Too weak". I know the GOP shills love to project, but this is ridiculous.

TommyDeuce: Plus the escalating sanctions. Russia's Finance Minister was saying today that their economy is in a pretty bad way. We're not doing sanctions because we're weak, but because that's where they are weak.

/Putin's daring us to punch him in the gut.
//We're going to kick him in the balls instead.


What's funny is that now Germany is giving the Ukraine oil, so all of Putin's economic measures against Ukraine and Europe don't matter.

fusillade762: Not to mention the outlawing of gay "propaganda" and the fact that employers can force their employees to pray and fire them if they don't. Bonus: they're the right color!


I'll tell you, if Russia stopped playing Hockey and replaced it with American Football, Russia would be a Facist Neocon dream state, complete with secret police, no middle class, collapsing economy, killing muslims, and no sun for all that pasty white skin.
 
2014-04-15 07:43:37 PM  

Wessoman: Using 300 military personnell to get rid of fat pro-Russian demonstrators that have taken over policemen is reasonable.

The fact that Putin will use this as an excuse to invade and occupy the Ukraine is not.

But the Ukrainian government is doing the right thing. And if Moscow invades, there are US warships in the region with signals and AWACS support. Ukraine may be at a disadvantage militarily, but unless wants to commit suicide and attack US warships, at least the Ukrainian army won't have to worry about fog of war problems as much as the Russians will.


In that scenario we all might have to worry but not for long. If the US intervenes and Putin realises that Russia is going to suffer a humiliating defeat who knows what he might do. He might let the nukes fly.
 
2014-04-15 07:44:53 PM  

ciberido: washington-babylon: One Bad Apple: [img1.wikia.nocookie.net image 640x512]


40K thread !

Hmmm... a Leman Russ tank. How about its big brother? The Banehammer?

[wh40k.lexicanum.com image 800x414]

Somehow I read that as "The Banhammer" and thought that the moderators were going to get embroiled.


Nice. I did the same thing when I was looking for it. Had me a brief moment of "Wha-?" before the "Oh" set in. That tank is cool, but it is hardly the best DoW 40k  superweapon-vehicle. I would have to reserve that honor for the Necron Monolith. That thing is just... wrong.

img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-04-15 07:50:51 PM  
Yeah, having looked into things a bit closer, this is all about to blow up in Russia's face if they continue.  The EU and NATO has spent the last few weeks/months wisely.
 
2014-04-15 07:51:42 PM  

kg2095: In that scenario we all might have to worry but not for long. If the US intervenes and Putin realises that Russia is going to suffer a humiliating defeat who knows what he might do. He might let the nukes fly.


Nope. Bottom line is that the US is in no way eager to threaten Russia. If Putin is beaten in the Ukraine and wants to go for the Nuclear option, he effectively unites the world against him. Either his own generals put a bullet in his head long before the orders to launch are executed, or Russia simply ends as a nation.

Remember, Russia doesn't exactly have many allies. Georgia would love to get revenge. Japan would like the Kuril islands back. China wouldn't mind a little territorial expansion. The Chechens will start a new round of bombing. Truth is, If Russia goes full retard, there are a lot people that would love to go full retard back at Russia.
 
2014-04-15 08:15:26 PM  

uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.


Lolwut?
 
2014-04-15 08:18:34 PM  

washington-babylon:


Nice. I did the same thing when I was looking for it. Had me a brief moment of "Wha-?" before the "Oh" set in. That tank is cool, but it is hardly the best DoW 40k  superweapon-vehicle. I would have to reserve that honor for the Necron Monolith. That thing is just... wrong.

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x610]



i60.photobucket.com


It just needs some flowers
 
2014-04-15 08:29:58 PM  
I dont see why everyone is freaking out... its probably to reinforce the border to stop small groups of Spetsnaz  "Protesters" from crossing the border.
 
2014-04-15 08:46:45 PM  
Just say fark it and get it on.  The human race could stand a nice purging anyhow.
 
2014-04-15 08:47:57 PM  

uber humper: Me. I would say that I would put up a no fly zone and bomb air fields if Putin were to invade. Putin wouldn't do it. He couldn't handle the repercussions (Russian domestic, and militarily). That would stop his march and probably get him kicked out of the Kremlin.


Wow, someone advocating war with absolutely no sense of Russian domestic politics. I'd say he's more of an FSB than GOP shill- no one could be that ignorant of how popular Putin is right now inside Russia... or how difficult US military ops would be without European support (which Germany, France and UK are absolutely not giving).

/TDY to Kiev in a few weeks
 
2014-04-15 09:21:37 PM  

ciberido: The Stealth Hippopotamus: tylerdurden217: He looks ill. Is that what this about? Is Putin on his death bed like Hitler at the end of WW2? And now he's just getting desperate for some invadey, conquery, land grabby stuff??

Don't you think he looks.....tired?

[doctoraday.files.wordpress.com image 850x477]

Approves.

Well since I was quoting him I'd hope he would approve
 
2014-04-15 09:24:19 PM  
And FYI:

What the CIA was doing in Kiev this weekend.

Tymoshenko willing to give up Eastern Ukraine if it means avoiding open war with Russia.

/US is trying to help, but Americans bleating on about threatening Russia should consider that even Ukrainians aren't fighting to save Ukraine. Their own Princess Leia has thrown in the towel.
 
2014-04-15 09:29:34 PM  

grumpfuff: Ah, I see the Putin Fan Boys are out in force.

Well, I don't know that I'd call them Putin Fan Boys so much as Anything But Obama.


These are the kids in the theatre who got pissed when Maverick flipped off the MiG
 
2014-04-15 09:29:50 PM  

T-Servo: And FYI:

What the CIA was doing in Kiev this weekend.

Tymoshenko willing to give up Eastern Ukraine if it means avoiding open war with Russia.

/US is trying to help, but Americans bleating on about threatening Russia should consider that even Ukrainians aren't fighting to save Ukraine. Their own Princess Leia has thrown in the towel.


Yeah, I'm going to put a lot of faith into that Live Journal blog.  lol wtf are 'you' smoking?
 
2014-04-15 09:35:29 PM  

One Bad Apple: washington-babylon:


Nice. I did the same thing when I was looking for it. Had me a brief moment of "Wha-?" before the "Oh" set in. That tank is cool, but it is hardly the best DoW 40k  superweapon-vehicle. I would have to reserve that honor for the Necron Monolith. That thing is just... wrong.

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x610]


[i60.photobucket.com image 800x600]


It just needs some flowers


There's guy out there with like $3000 of My Little Pony themed Space Marines.

Each vehicle is a different character with themed troops. That guy should fight the guy who made this one.
 
2014-04-15 09:38:02 PM  

Infernalist: Yeah, I'm going to put a lot of faith into that Live Journal blog. lol wtf are 'you' smoking?


It as an extension of these comments. Apologies if I can't find an English source agreeable to you.

Admittedly, at other times she calls for citizen brigades of resistance fighters, but she doesn't seem to trust the Ukrainian military itself.
 
2014-04-15 09:38:50 PM  

Wessoman: fusillade762: Not to mention the outlawing of gay "propaganda" and the fact that employers can force their employees to pray and fire them if they don't. Bonus: they're the right color!


I'll tell you, if Russia stopped playing Hockey and replaced it with American Football, Russia would be a Facist Neocon dream state, complete with secret police, no middle class, collapsing economy, killing muslims, and no sun for all that pasty white skin.



Not necessarily.  I mean, if Catholics aren't "proper" Christians, then why would a right-wing fundamentalist Christian accept the Russian Orthodox church?
 
2014-04-15 09:42:15 PM  

One Bad Apple: washington-babylon:


Nice. I did the same thing when I was looking for it. Had me a brief moment of "Wha-?" before the "Oh" set in. That tank is cool, but it is hardly the best DoW 40k  superweapon-vehicle. I would have to reserve that honor for the Necron Monolith. That thing is just... wrong.

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x610]


[i60.photobucket.com image 800x600]


It just needs some flowers


Damn. Now you have got me wondering what a pony Necron looks like.
 
2014-04-15 09:45:41 PM  

uber humper: Worked out pretty well for the guys here -- didn't it??

[ticknortribe.com image 850x564]


On one hand they killed everyone except for like 3 people at the Alamo.

On the other hand, Texas is not a part of Mexico today.

Non-Texans may not appreciate that, but fark them.

I'm on Ukraine's side in this fight and if they want to fight to the death, I'll fight side by side with them.  I mean I'll watch the news and hope somebody stabs Putin in the face.
 
2014-04-15 09:48:19 PM  

uber humper: purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: uber humper: Felgraf: uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.

And what woudl you do? Start WWIII?

Doing nothing will start WWIII. Early action prevents a worse outcome later.  How do you handle a bully? Let him grow?

But Obama can't do it.  A real leader could threaten Putin and Putin would consider.  Obama threatens, and Putin knows it means nothing.

You still didn't answer the question. Threaten Putin with what? What would you do?

Me. I would say that I would put up a no fly zone and bomb air fields if Putin were to invade. Putin wouldn't do it. He couldn't handle the repercussions (Russian domestic, and militarily). That would stop his march and probably get him kicked out of the Kremlin.


What's better? He's not gonna listen to diplomacy. He has Europe by the balls.


Bomb Ukrainian air fields or air fields in Russia itself? Also, how would you enforce a no-fly zone over the Ukraine, when the ground forces are quite likely to be able to be armed and trained with anti-aircraft weapons?
 
2014-04-15 09:52:59 PM  

washington-babylon:

Damn. Now you have got me wondering what a pony Necron looks like.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-15 09:53:28 PM  

washington-babylon: ciberido: washington-babylon: One Bad Apple: [img1.wikia.nocookie.net image 640x512]


40K thread !

Hmmm... a Leman Russ tank. How about its big brother? The Banehammer?

[wh40k.lexicanum.com image 800x414]

Somehow I read that as "The Banhammer" and thought that the moderators were going to get embroiled.

Nice. I did the same thing when I was looking for it. Had me a brief moment of "Wha-?" before the "Oh" set in. That tank is cool, but it is hardly the best DoW 40k  superweapon-vehicle. I would have to reserve that honor for the Necron Monolith. That thing is just... wrong.

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x610]


I must be coming down with dyslexia today, because I swear I read that as "Neo-con Monolith."

I seriously need to get my glasses updated.
 
2014-04-15 09:54:42 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: ciberido: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Don't you think he looks.....tired?

[doctoraday.files.wordpress.com image 850x477]

Approves.
Well since I was quoting him I'd hope he would approve


Fair enough.
 
2014-04-15 10:01:52 PM  
This is madness!
 
2014-04-15 10:11:07 PM  

washington-babylon: One Bad Apple: [img1.wikia.nocookie.net image 640x512]


40K thread !

Hmmm... a Leman Russ tank. How about its big brother? The Banehammer?

[wh40k.lexicanum.com image 800x414]


That monstrosity represents everything that is wrong with Games Workshop in this decade.
 
2014-04-15 10:20:02 PM  
Putin laughs and spreads his wings, oh Lord yeah
 
2014-04-15 10:32:56 PM  

svanmeter: Putin laughs and spreads his wings, oh Lord yeah


Wow, you worship Putin.

That's pretty sad.
 
2014-04-15 10:40:12 PM  

grumpfuff: svanmeter: Putin laughs and spreads his wings, oh Lord yeah

Wow, you worship Putin.

That's pretty sad.


What?

No,  That's a line from "War Pigs" by Black Sabaath, with 'Satan' replaced with 'Putin.'

"
Generals gathered in their masses,
just like witches at black masses.
Evil minds that plot destruction,
sorcerers of death's construction.
In the fields the bodies burning,
as the war machine keeps turning.
Death and hatred to mankind,
poisoning their brainwashed minds...Oh lord yeah!


Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor
Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait `till their judgement day comes, yeah!


Now in darkness, world stops turning,
as you hear the bodies burning.
No more war pigs of the power,
hand of god has struck the hour.
Day of judgement, god is calling,
on their knees the war pigs crawling.
Begging mercy for their sins,
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings...Oh lord, yeah!"
 
2014-04-15 10:50:05 PM  

zamboni: This is madness!


Madness?  This!  IS!  U-KRAINE!  *kicks zamboni into an open well*
 
2014-04-15 10:53:41 PM  

Felgraf: grumpfuff: svanmeter: Putin laughs and spreads his wings, oh Lord yeah

Wow, you worship Putin.

That's pretty sad.

What?

No,  That's a line from "War Pigs" by Black Sabaath, with 'Satan' replaced with 'Putin.'

"
Generals gathered in their masses,
just like witches at black masses.
Evil minds that plot destruction,
sorcerers of death's construction.
In the fields the bodies burning,
as the war machine keeps turning.
Death and hatred to mankind,
poisoning their brainwashed minds...Oh lord yeah!


Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor
Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait `till their judgement day comes, yeah!


Now in darkness, world stops turning,
as you hear the bodies burning.
No more war pigs of the power,
hand of god has struck the hour.
Day of judgement, god is calling,
on their knees the war pigs crawling.
Begging mercy for their sins,
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings...Oh lord, yeah!"


...considering I love that song, I would like to voluntarily step forward and say that I am a farking dumbass for missing that one.
 
2014-04-15 10:54:42 PM  

One Bad Apple: washington-babylon:

Damn. Now you have got me wondering what a pony Necron looks like.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 640x640]


We need to make an addendum for rule 34.

/The Flesh is Weak!
//New Ogryns drop this week.
///The hobby is getting stupidly expensive as the models are getting amazingly good.
 
2014-04-15 11:04:13 PM  

One Bad Apple: washington-babylon:

Damn. Now you have got me wondering what a pony Necron looks like.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 640x640]


s3.roosterteeth.com
1.bp.blogspot.com

And now we know.
 
2014-04-15 11:04:36 PM  

ciberido: zamboni: This is madness!

Madness?  This!  IS!  U-KRAINE!  *kicks zamboni into an open well*


Well, thanks a pantload, mate.
 
2014-04-15 11:08:28 PM  
ITS A TRAP!
 
2014-04-15 11:13:02 PM  

Wessoman: Using 300 military personnell to get rid of fat pro-Russian demonstrators that have taken over policemen is reasonable.

The fact that Putin will use this as an excuse to invade and occupy the Ukraine is not.


I bet I can scroll down, and see someone suggest A-10s.

/Russia isn't going to invade Ukraine, it's just commenters who considers everything a nail when all they have a hammer.
 
2014-04-15 11:17:53 PM  

uber humper: purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: uber humper: Felgraf: uber humper: Wessoman: uber humper: Brick-House: Meanwhile, Obama shows that two can play that game as he prepares to reinvade a Nevada ranch.

Meh, Obama can't stand up against a rancher, much less Putin.

But he is good at surveiling law abiding citizens.

Should have gone with "0bama". But nice spelling error. 4/10

Yea I missed an "L".  Holy fark.

But my point stands.  Obama is in over his head. Community organizer, yea he's qualified to give out free legal advice. President of the US and leader of the free world, not qualified. He's good at whipping up followers to a frenzy, but is he a true leader? no.  He never takes responsibility.

And what woudl you do? Start WWIII?

Doing nothing will start WWIII. Early action prevents a worse outcome later.  How do you handle a bully? Let him grow?

But Obama can't do it.  A real leader could threaten Putin and Putin would consider.  Obama threatens, and Putin knows it means nothing.

You still didn't answer the question. Threaten Putin with what? What would you do?

Me. I would say that I would put up a no fly zone and bomb air fields if Putin were to invade. Putin wouldn't do it. He couldn't handle the repercussions (Russian domestic, and militarily). That would stop his march and probably get him kicked out of the Kremlin.


What's better? He's not gonna listen to diplomacy. He has Europe by the balls.


You're going to bomb Ukraines airfields? Don't they have enough problems already?

Because you sure as hell didn't just suggest bombing Russia, that would be right up there with the A-10 guys.
 
2014-04-15 11:24:56 PM  

uber humper: Me. I would say that I would put up a no fly zone and bomb air fields if Putin were to invade. Putin wouldn't do it. He couldn't handle the repercussions (Russian domestic, and militarily). That would stop his march and probably get him kicked out of the Kremlin.


Put down the Call of Duty game controller, pick up any reading material about the Russian air force, Russian air defense systems, and, oh, the Russian nuclear arsenal, and proceed to whack yourself in the head with it until you realize how dangerously stupid an idea this is.
 
2014-04-15 11:46:35 PM  
Wow, 6posters make up almost this entire thread.  I don't even see the hardcore ones.  The seconds are really taking up the slack.
 
2014-04-15 11:59:16 PM  

spawn73: I bet I can scroll down, and see someone suggest A-10s.

/Russia isn't going to invade Ukraine, it's just commenters who considers everything a nail when all they have a hammer.


What's with all this A-10 nonsense? Am I missing something?
 
2014-04-16 12:42:38 AM  

One Bad Apple: washington-babylon:

Damn. Now you have got me wondering what a pony Necron looks like.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 640x640]


Yep, definitely as scary as I imagined. Almost as much as the fact that somebody answered that question already.
 
2014-04-16 12:53:19 AM  

Wessoman: spawn73: I bet I can scroll down, and see someone suggest A-10s.

/Russia isn't going to invade Ukraine, it's just commenters who considers everything a nail when all they have a hammer.

What's with all this A-10 nonsense? Am I missing something?


Several people have said something either directly or indirectly that its time to bring out the A-10 from mothball. Well, in other threads about Ukraine anyway, repeatedly.
 
2014-04-16 01:43:06 AM  
Putin is shocked, SHOCKED that this might happen.

Oh wait no he isn't. Carry on.
 
2014-04-16 03:04:30 AM  
Ukraine constantly reinforces Eastern borders, as also puts the troops in key positions in the East, where they can be able to react quickly, if there would be any orders for them. People, equipment, ammunition are going east one step at a time (because Ukraine doesn't have either trained troops or money/resources to mount any large-scale operation). It's not just 300 people, for heavens sake.

Other parts of article are also written on exactly the same level we've came to expect from CNN. Atrocious.
 
2014-04-16 04:41:03 AM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cxRGD4w0PA

Pro-Russian separatists in Kramatorsk captured 6 armored vehicles of Ukraine army. The people of the city surrounded the vehicles, refusing to let them move forward or back. Army of Ukraine refused to open fire at population. A bit later armed separatists came, after a bit of discussion with Ukrainian army, without any actual shots fired, Ukrainian army surrendered and left their BTRs, or agreed to disarm and move BTRs away; actual information is sparse, but the video at least shows armored vehicles surrounded by locals and separatists in control.

It's pretty hard to use army against separatists when separatists are supported by local population. You just can't shoot the people.
 
2014-04-16 06:41:18 AM  

Grahor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cxRGD4w0PA

Pro-Russian separatists in Kramatorsk captured 6 armored vehicles of Ukraine army. The people of the city surrounded the vehicles, refusing to let them move forward or back. Army of Ukraine refused to open fire at population. A bit later armed separatists came, after a bit of discussion with Ukrainian army, without any actual shots fired, Ukrainian army surrendered and left their BTRs, or agreed to disarm and move BTRs away; actual information is sparse, but the video at least shows armored vehicles surrounded by locals and separatists in control.

It's pretty hard to use army against separatists when separatists are supported by local population. You just can't shoot the people.


God Dammit so much!

SOME of the Ukrainian people are really pissing me off...  They would rather stop their own army who refuses to hurt them, disarm them, and go running back to russian supporters that are rioting, taking over police stations, roughing up people and threatening media.  fark these clowns.
 
2014-04-16 09:01:32 AM  

One Bad Apple: washington-babylon:


Nice. I did the same thing when I was looking for it. Had me a brief moment of "Wha-?" before the "Oh" set in. That tank is cool, but it is hardly the best DoW 40k  superweapon-vehicle. I would have to reserve that honor for the Necron Monolith. That thing is just... wrong.

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It just needs some flowers


Slaanesh-affiliated Necrons? Fark that noise (heh).

Instant morale test failure vs tank shock.
 
2014-04-16 09:35:51 AM  
Grahor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cxRGD4w0PA

Pro-Russian separatists in Kramatorsk captured 6 armored vehicles of Ukraine army. The people of the city surrounded the vehicles, refusing to let them move forward or back. Army of Ukraine refused to open fire at population. A bit later armed separatists came, after a bit of discussion with Ukrainian army, without any actual shots fired, Ukrainian army surrendered and left their BTRs, or agreed to disarm and move BTRs away; actual information is sparse, but the video at least shows armored vehicles surrounded by locals and separatists in control.

It's pretty hard to use army against separatists when separatists are supported by local population. You just can't shoot the people.


Actually, you can but there are understood and legal methods of riot control that should be used to disperse, detain and arrest folks who are demonstrating, attempting to foment sedition and anarchy.  It won't win the hearts and minds of folks, but it would probably allow the Unkrainian Government to identify perpetrators.  There is a theory that many of the separatists are Russian soldiers who have infiltrated.  If some unidenitified and unidentifiable persons are detained and found to be Russians, I would think that would be hard for the Putin administration to explain away.  "Hey, we heard noises and we wandered over the border to see what was going on?"  Once that particular ruse is exposed as false, especially if more than 1 or 2 Russian military folks are detained, he could either double down on his gambit and actually invade (removing all doubt) or pull back.  He would be exposed and prodded to take a course of action.

There are tactics that the Ukrainian military can take to lawfully protect themselves, advance and put some space between themselves and agitators.  They should be prepared for the tactics used by the separatists and act accordingly.
 
2014-04-16 09:38:34 AM  
Agh. Unkrainian.  Spelling things correctly helps.....spelling is fundamental....
 
2014-04-16 10:28:51 AM  
From http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27045534 -

Ukrainian troops have entered the eastern town of Kramatorsk a day after an operation began to recapture areas seized by anti-government separatists.

But the Ukrainian defence ministry says six armoured personnel carriers were captured by pro-Russian militants.



Excellent work there, gentlemen.
 
2014-04-16 11:23:20 AM  

ciberido: I must be coming down with dyslexia today, because I swear I read that as "Neo-con Monolith."


You aren't alone.

Godforbid.
 
2014-04-16 11:24:04 AM  
And through it all, the Ukrainian space Barbie chick is STILL totally oblivious. Hell, send her to the front lines before she gets that chance to move here to the States like she's been talking about!
 
2014-04-16 11:28:47 AM  

Grahor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cxRGD4w0PA


What the hell, that thing looks tiny, like something I'd give my daughter to play with.
 
2014-04-16 11:45:28 AM  

Grahor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cxRGD4w0PA

Pro-Russian separatists in Kramatorsk captured 6 armored vehicles of Ukraine army. The people of the city surrounded the vehicles, refusing to let them move forward or back. Army of Ukraine refused to open fire at population. A bit later armed separatists came, after a bit of discussion with Ukrainian army, without any actual shots fired, Ukrainian army surrendered and left their BTRs, or agreed to disarm and move BTRs away; actual information is sparse, but the video at least shows armored vehicles surrounded by locals and separatists in control.



I don't  suppose you have a link to an actual article demonstratig the truth of what you say, do you?
 
2014-04-16 11:47:39 AM  

ciberido: Grahor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cxRGD4w0PA

Pro-Russian separatists in Kramatorsk captured 6 armored vehicles of Ukraine army. The people of the city surrounded the vehicles, refusing to let them move forward or back. Army of Ukraine refused to open fire at population. A bit later armed separatists came, after a bit of discussion with Ukrainian army, without any actual shots fired, Ukrainian army surrendered and left their BTRs, or agreed to disarm and move BTRs away; actual information is sparse, but the video at least shows armored vehicles surrounded by locals and separatists in control.


I don't  suppose you have a link to an actual article demonstratig the truth of what you say, do you?


Check mine above.
 
2014-04-16 01:53:58 PM  

ciberido: I don't  suppose you have a link to an actual article demonstratig the truth of what you say, do you?


I have posted an actual freakin video, no? Any English-speaking article would be some days behind. But here it is:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27045534

I've actually dismissed the information that some part of Ukraine's own army switched sides, because I have no independent confirmation for it, but here it is, right in the article:

"A soldier guarding one of the carriers told Reuters he was a member of Ukraine's 25th airborne brigade from Dnipropetrovsk, a city also in eastern Ukraine.
He said the soldiers had had no food for four days until local people fed them.
"All the soldiers and the officers are here," he said. "We are all boys who won't shoot our own people.""

There are plenty of videos right now where separatists drive captured vehicles - check the one here:  http://tsn.ua/politika/ukrayinsku-bronetehniku-na-donbasi-zahoplyuval i -separatisti-z-krimu-345694.html

This is a Ukrainian-language article from very pro-West-Ukrainian source, with their own journalists, so it's unlikely that it will be influenced by Russian propaganda, no? They say that one of the separatists said that their unit is called "Crimea", however, no other identifying information was offered.

The armored vehicles themselves are driven, by the words of the separatists, by actual Ukrainian Army soldiers-drivers, who switched sides and went to separatists. He (separatist) says that they (Ukrainian Army currently in the vehicles) weren't fed for days, tired and dirty, and now locals bring them food and stuff. He (separatist) says that they "just talked" to the Ukrainian Army, and that they've decided to switch sides.

All that I wrote here is based on the video - by the pro-Ukrainian TSN network - and what is said in it.
 
2014-04-16 06:30:45 PM  

BigNumber12: ciberido: Grahor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cxRGD4w0PA

Pro-Russian separatists in Kramatorsk captured 6 armored vehicles of Ukraine army. The people of the city surrounded the vehicles, refusing to let them move forward or back. Army of Ukraine refused to open fire at population. A bit later armed separatists came, after a bit of discussion with Ukrainian army, without any actual shots fired, Ukrainian army surrendered and left their BTRs, or agreed to disarm and move BTRs away; actual information is sparse, but the video at least shows armored vehicles surrounded by locals and separatists in control.


I don't  suppose you have a link to an actual article demonstratig the truth of what you say, do you?

Check mine above.


Thank you.

My concern is whose side the Ukrainian people are actually on, both in Crimea and now in these other eastern parts of Ukraine.  If they genuinely want to leave Ukraine and become either part of Russia or an entirely independent nation, my inclination would be to let them.  If, on the other hand, only a few locals really like Russia all that much and the false IMPRESSION of a popular uprising is being crafted by Russian astroturfing, then I would be more than happy to see the Russians expelled by force.

Grahor, while he may be a very honest and honorable person, clearly has a pro-Russia agenda and so I tend to be very skeptical of anything he says in these threads.  Thus my desire to get as unbiased and accurate information on the issue as I can.
 
2014-04-16 06:32:43 PM  

Grahor: ciberido: I don't  suppose you have a link to an actual article demonstratig the truth of what you say, do you?

I have posted an actual freakin video, no?


I'm afraid that such a video means very little, quite apart from the problem that I do not speak the language.
 
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