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2014-04-15 05:01:33 PM

Danger Avoid Death: My grandmother is currently in an old-folks home because, at 87, she needs full time medical care. The place is full of old people doddering around in wheelchairs and drooling on themselves. It's a nice facility, but still, in any case, not some place I want to end up.

And the problem with adding years to your life through this kind of "healthy eating" is that I'm afraid the years I add will be spent doddering around in a wheelchair and drooling on myself.


That's not how it works. If you smoke, don't exercise and eat crap food, you just get those years earlier. Unless you luck into a massive heart attack.
 
2014-04-15 05:05:26 PM

Hebalo: Danger Avoid Death: My grandmother is currently in an old-folks home because, at 87, she needs full time medical care. The place is full of old people doddering around in wheelchairs and drooling on themselves. It's a nice facility, but still, in any case, not some place I want to end up.

And the problem with adding years to your life through this kind of "healthy eating" is that I'm afraid the years I add will be spent doddering around in a wheelchair and drooling on myself.

How about adding 5 years to your ability to walk on your own, hang out with grandkids etc?


This is why I work out and do my best to eat healthfully/low fat. It's quality of life. I know much of it is up to chance; but I want to do everything I can to have the best quality of life possible right up until the end. If I end up bedridden for 20 years on the way, like someone said a couple posts back, pass the opiates and remote.
 
2014-04-15 05:06:56 PM
I prefer a nice whole grain,  brown or wild rice. But I can't find it in an outer suburb at 5 at night when I have to get home.

All I can find is white rice,  white bread or mock whole grain bread.  You know processed with a few grains.

I hardly use bread anymore prefering to wrap my lunches in Nori.
 
2014-04-15 05:07:47 PM
White bread, white rice, white potatoes
All garbage.
 
2014-04-15 05:17:03 PM
If the end result of your actions is what is expected, how you reach that end result is not wrong it is just different.    People who spout off about the right ways to do things need to learn that there is more than one way to crack an egg.
 
2014-04-15 05:17:33 PM

Pincy: anuran: Dave's Killer Bread. That's all there is to say

Have to agree.  It has ruined me for all other bread.


Me too. My stomach has no tolerance for bleached white flour but I can eat Dave's. Sin Dawg? Deliciousness!
Rainier Organic Bakery has excellent Sasquatch and Ezekial breads.
 
2014-04-15 05:17:48 PM

Smeggy Smurf: That Guy Jeff: I thought the hipsters were all about the "gluten free" garbage now, all pretending to have health issues they don't actually have for attention?

Fark hipsters sideways with a rusty spork.

That said, I'm going to try my hand at making some bread out of the ancient grains after making the flour in a food processor.  I already make my own nut flour and meals for energy bars and cookies.  Making it for bread will just be another day in the kitchen.  As a bonus I, not some nameless exec at BlandFoodInc, will choose exactly what my bread is.


You do realize that you're one millstone away from being a hipster yourself, right? Pray you never grow bored of that food processor...
 
2014-04-15 05:20:34 PM

bikerbob59: bmr68: LazyMedia: Bread makes you fat.

Bread does not make you fat. Being lazy makes you fat.

A pair of sneakers and 30 minutes a day.


If I have to explain it then you're already too fat
 
2014-04-15 05:24:01 PM
Lot's of grains is fine.  White is dandy.

My girlfriend is very allergic to soy.  Just keep the soy out of it is all I'm friggin asking here.

It's damn near impossible these days to find soy free bread, especially hamburger or hot dog buns.

That said, out of necessity, I've gotten pretty damn good at making my own bread, so there's that.
 
2014-04-15 05:24:59 PM

Begoggle: White bread, white rice, white potatoes
All garbage.


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2014-04-15 05:25:39 PM

ZeroPly: Smeggy Smurf: That Guy Jeff: I thought the hipsters were all about the "gluten free" garbage now, all pretending to have health issues they don't actually have for attention?

Fark hipsters sideways with a rusty spork.

That said, I'm going to try my hand at making some bread out of the ancient grains after making the flour in a food processor.  I already make my own nut flour and meals for energy bars and cookies.  Making it for bread will just be another day in the kitchen.  As a bonus I, not some nameless exec at BlandFoodInc, will choose exactly what my bread is.

You do realize that you're one millstone away from being a hipster yourself, right? Pray you never grow bored of that food processor...


Yes, rebellion against societal norms is solely the realm of hipsters.  Jesus you farkers are ignorant of history.
 
2014-04-15 05:33:55 PM

Smeggy Smurf: ZeroPly: Smeggy Smurf: That Guy Jeff: I thought the hipsters were all about the "gluten free" garbage now, all pretending to have health issues they don't actually have for attention?

Fark hipsters sideways with a rusty spork.

That said, I'm going to try my hand at making some bread out of the ancient grains after making the flour in a food processor.  I already make my own nut flour and meals for energy bars and cookies.  Making it for bread will just be another day in the kitchen.  As a bonus I, not some nameless exec at BlandFoodInc, will choose exactly what my bread is.

You do realize that you're one millstone away from being a hipster yourself, right? Pray you never grow bored of that food processor...

Yes, rebellion against societal norms is solely the realm of hipsters.  Jesus you farkers are ignorant of history.


Some people have to put labels on things or categorize them in order to understand them. Idiots.

You mentioned nut flour; I make mine for gravy and curries - delicious.
 
2014-04-15 05:34:05 PM

LazyMedia: bikerbob59: bmr68: LazyMedia: Bread makes you fat.

Bread does not make you fat. Being lazy makes you fat.

A pair of sneakers and 30 minutes a day.

OK, I'm waiting.  And then what?

Then you get plantar fasciitis.



Only if you don't run barefoot.
 
2014-04-15 05:41:04 PM

JoieD'Zen: Some people have to put labels on things or categorize them in order to understand them. Idiots.


If we didn't put labels on things or categorize them, everything would be filed under "miscellaneous". Just sayin'.
 
2014-04-15 05:44:46 PM
If you have some kind of issue, just stay away from it. It worked growing up, and if some of the sickly kids didn't make it, so be it. If you or one of your kids has a problem eating some stuff, the marketplace will make the determination, and the price point, too.  rowing up, we used to have a friend that grew a lot of her own stuff, and she seemed fine. Granted, this was in the '70s, things have changed since then.
If you're gonna complain about it, the world doesn't owe you a living,just move on, take your therapy critter and hit the curb.
 
2014-04-15 05:54:13 PM

Pincy: anuran: Dave's Killer Bread. That's all there is to say

Have to agree.  It has ruined me for all other bread.


This and this.
 
2014-04-15 06:06:42 PM
Some unethical bread makers simply add caramel food coloring to white bread, and label it "wheat bread", so it looks somewhat like whole wheat bread.

Dave's Killer bread is great, but can't match real German bread.  I've never found it in the states.
 
2014-04-15 07:02:06 PM

JoieD'Zen: Pincy: anuran: Dave's Killer Bread. That's all there is to say

Have to agree.  It has ruined me for all other bread.

Me too. My stomach has no tolerance for bleached white flour but I can eat Dave's. Sin Dawg? Deliciousness!
Rainier Organic Bakery has excellent Sasquatch and Ezekial breads.


It's a shame that it costs $23 bucks to get 2 loafs shipped to NC.
 
2014-04-15 07:44:56 PM
The article references Great Harvest Bread Company's Dakota bread. I love that stuff and buy it (or their honey whole wheat) all the time. I'm actually not big into "artisanal" breads, but the stuff from Great Harvest is a whole different deal. The bread is very dense but soft. In my opinion it's too dense for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, but it's amazing for toast, grilled cheese, dipping into soups, or for many gourmet style sandwiches. It's not good for everything, but it's very good for a lot of things.

It sounds crazy, but if I have my kids eat something on a slice of bread from Great Harvest, they'll calm down and be better behaved than if I give them some other kind of bread/snack/etc. And for me it gives me sustained energy for hours. Not trying to be snooty -- everyone has different tastes -- but I love the stuff from Great Harvest. Glad to see them getting some good press!
 
2014-04-15 07:51:27 PM

Phil Clinton: Pincy: anuran: Dave's Killer Bread. That's all there is to say

Have to agree.  It has ruined me for all other bread.

This and this.


I bought my first loaf last week, I never thought  spending five dollars on a loaf of bread would be such a value.  This is seriously good stuff.
 
2014-04-15 08:26:29 PM
Arnolds or aunt millies imo.
 
2014-04-15 08:31:13 PM

LazyMedia: jshine: What exactly does "steel cut" oats mean?  Are oats that are cut with a steel blade somehow healthier than if the blade were made of -- say -- titanium?  ...and wouldn't steel be the default material to make industrial cutting equipment out of anyway, given that it's far cheaper than almost any other competing material?

Steel cut oats are different from rolled oats. That's your choices. Rolled oats cook really fast (that's what Americans think of when they think oatmeal). Steel cut oats take much longer to cook; that's what Scottish porridge is made from. Very different texture.

/I've tried steel cut oats; not enough better than regular rolled oats to justify the extra time.


I only eat obsidian cut oats. It's the Mayan way, and the resulting gas gives me more power over my Aztec enemies.
 
2014-04-15 08:43:33 PM

WordyGrrl: LazyMedia: jshine: What exactly does "steel cut" oats mean?  Are oats that are cut with a steel blade somehow healthier than if the blade were made of -- say -- titanium?  ...and wouldn't steel be the default material to make industrial cutting equipment out of anyway, given that it's far cheaper than almost any other competing material?

Steel cut oats are different from rolled oats. That's your choices. Rolled oats cook really fast (that's what Americans think of when they think oatmeal). Steel cut oats take much longer to cook; that's what Scottish porridge is made from. Very different texture.

/I've tried steel cut oats; not enough better than regular rolled oats to justify the extra time.

I only eat obsidian cut oats. It's the Mayan way, and the resulting gas gives me more power over my Aztec enemies.


Not to mention, when you eat oatmeal cut with dragonglass, your farts will kill white walkers.
 
2014-04-16 02:13:59 AM

tfudtuckerpucker: Some unethical bread makers simply add caramel food coloring to white bread, and label it "wheat bread", so it looks somewhat like whole wheat bread.



My view is: if you can flatten an entire loaf to 1/2" thick by pressing on it, it's not real bread.

I have such a weakness for carbs (bread, beer, pasta, etc) that I really need to curb, so the more rustic the bread, the better off I am.

/Have to give a shout-out to Le Bus as their multi-grain tastes good and can actually be used for sandwiches
//not the best bread I've ever had, but the best I can get with little effort.
 
2014-04-16 08:46:06 AM

give me doughnuts: I'm 7th level vegan.
I don't eat food that casts a shadow.

But go ahead and enjoy your bread, murderer.


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2014-04-16 10:14:34 AM
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2014-04-16 10:21:37 AM

CJHardin: JoieD'Zen: Pincy: anuran: Dave's Killer Bread. That's all there is to say

Have to agree.  It has ruined me for all other bread.

Me too. My stomach has no tolerance for bleached white flour but I can eat Dave's. Sin Dawg? Deliciousness!
Rainier Organic Bakery has excellent Sasquatch and Ezekial breads.

It's a shame that it costs $23 bucks to get 2 loafs shipped to NC.


What part of NC are you in? There are some killer bakeries in most reasonably sized cities.

In Durham, 9th Street Bakery, Loaf, and the Farmer's Market have some amazing selections.
 
2014-04-16 12:54:53 PM

Pangea: CJHardin: JoieD'Zen: Pincy: anuran: Dave's Killer Bread. That's all there is to say

Have to agree.  It has ruined me for all other bread.

Me too. My stomach has no tolerance for bleached white flour but I can eat Dave's. Sin Dawg? Deliciousness!
Rainier Organic Bakery has excellent Sasquatch and Ezekial breads.

It's a shame that it costs $23 bucks to get 2 loafs shipped to NC.

What part of NC are you in? There are some killer bakeries in most reasonably sized cities.

In Durham, 9th Street Bakery, Loaf, and the Farmer's Market have some amazing selections.


I'm in Marshall, outside of Asheville.  We have bakeries in the area that are great but they are hit and miss on my requirements.  My girlfriend is allergic to soy and it seems that a lot of bakers just can't keep themselves from using vegetable oil (soy oil) or soy flour or protein.  It's a pain in the ass to find decent bread and almost impossible to find decent hamburger or hot dog buns that are sans soy.

The craft bakeries are USUALLY better but there are a lot of people who just don't quite understand soy allergies.  I get a lot of "Oh, I'm on a gluten free diet as well" and "We don't use soy in our bread, just good 'ol wholesome vegetable oil".

I'll have to try out that place in Raleigh when I'm down again though.
 
2014-04-16 12:56:26 PM

Pangea: [cdn1.viewpoints.com image 300x300]


For instance, although I like that bread, it contains lots of soy, so it's yet another no-go for the gf.  :-(
 
2014-04-16 01:02:55 PM

CJHardin: Pangea: [cdn1.viewpoints.com image 300x300]

For instance, although I like that bread, it contains lots of soy, so it's yet another no-go for the gf.  :-(


http://www.walmart.com/ip/Pepperidge-Farm-Whole-Grain-Small-Slice-Br ea d-14-Oz/10452839

I know that my needs are different than most, but looking at the above ingredients makes me slightly irritated.

Great bread only requires flour, yeast, egg, salt, and beer (or water).  Just sayin.
 
2014-04-16 01:47:35 PM

jshine: What exactly does "steel cut" oats mean?  Are oats that are cut with a steel blade somehow healthier than if the blade were made of -- say -- titanium?  ...and wouldn't steel be the default material to make industrial cutting equipment out of anyway, given that it's far cheaper than almost any other competing material?


Maybe saying saying "cut" might suggest it was cut with an inferior grain.  Perhaps cutting with iron equipment squashes rather than slices the grains.  Perhaps it was originally a term used for marketing or suggesting higher quality.  In any case, there is a distinct difference.  From Wikipedia:

Steel-cut oats are whole grain groats (the inner portion of the oat kernel) which have been cut into pieces. They are commonly used in Scotland and Ireland to make porridge, whereas rolled oats are used in England, other English-speaking countries, and Scandinavia.
Steel-cut oats take longer to cook than instant or rolled oats due to their minimal processing, typically 15-30 minutes (less, if pre-soaked). The flavor of the cooked oats is described as being nuttier than other types of oats, and they are also chewier.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel-cut_oats
 
2014-04-16 06:57:54 PM

Danger Avoid Death: WordyGrrl: LazyMedia: jshine: What exactly does "steel cut" oats mean?  Are oats that are cut with a steel blade somehow healthier than if the blade were made of -- say -- titanium?  ...and wouldn't steel be the default material to make industrial cutting equipment out of anyway, given that it's far cheaper than almost any other competing material?

Steel cut oats are different from rolled oats. That's your choices. Rolled oats cook really fast (that's what Americans think of when they think oatmeal). Steel cut oats take much longer to cook; that's what Scottish porridge is made from. Very different texture.

/I've tried steel cut oats; not enough better than regular rolled oats to justify the extra time.

I only eat obsidian cut oats. It's the Mayan way, and the resulting gas gives me more power over my Aztec enemies.

Not to mention, when you eat oatmeal cut with dragonglass, your farts will kill white walkers.


And that's very important these days, what with winter coming and all.
 
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