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(CNN)   Eight capitalists who are doing it wrong   (money.cnn.com ) divider line
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2014-04-15 10:34:17 AM  
AOL is still around ?!?  Wow.
 
2014-04-15 10:43:16 AM  
You're confusing "capitalist" with "parasite", subby.

A common enough mistake.
 
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2014-04-15 11:37:25 AM  
No, they are still making plenty, it's just the ups and downs of the stock market.
 
2014-04-15 12:18:33 PM  

J.Shelby: AOL is still around ?!?  Wow.


Anyone have any idea how AOL is making money?
 
2014-04-15 12:24:23 PM  

monoski: J.Shelby: AOL is still around ?!?  Wow.

Anyone have any idea how AOL is making money?


people like my mother, who are paying both for AOL and for regular internet services :P
 
2014-04-15 12:52:06 PM  
Most CEOs don't have any earned income.

It's all capital gains.
 
2014-04-15 01:01:59 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: monoski: J.Shelby: AOL is still around ?!?  Wow.

Anyone have any idea how AOL is making money?

people like my mother, who are paying both for AOL and for regular internet services :P


My dad does the same thing.  No idea why.  Chat rooms?
 
2014-04-15 01:08:00 PM  

monoski: J.Shelby: AOL is still around ?!?  Wow.

Anyone have any idea how AOL is making money?


They own a bunch of websites, such as the Huffington Post.  They also have a on-line ad network, plus the remains of their ISP services.
 
2014-04-15 01:17:37 PM  

monoski: J.Shelby: AOL is still around ?!?  Wow.

Anyone have any idea how AOL is making money?


AOL's got a number of online properties in addition to their internet service. Their media group includes things like HuffPost, TechCrunch, and Engadget; they've also got stuff like Moviefone and MapQuest and a pretty large-scale video network from the 5min acquisition. Running ads against all of this content is pretty lucrative.
 
2014-04-15 01:32:52 PM  

monoski: J.Shelby: AOL is still around ?!?  Wow.

Anyone have any idea how AOL is making money?


The same way twitter and facebook do.  I have no idea.  Ads can't pay for that much.
 
2014-04-15 02:04:40 PM  
Watson saw his compensation slashed by 9% to $20.2 million in 2013, which resulted from an 18% drop in his stock-based compensation, which totaled $5.8 million. His salary, meanwhile, inched up 6% to $1.8 million.

In April, Watson received $15 million in performance shares and stock that Chevron (CVX, Fortune 500) did not count as part of his 2013 compensation.


OMG how is this poor man going to survive?
 
2014-04-15 02:53:33 PM  

Ishkur: Most CEOs don't have any earned income.

It's all capital gains.


That would change if the tax rates on earned income and the capital gains flipped.
 
2014-04-15 02:58:39 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: monoski: J.Shelby: AOL is still around ?!?  Wow.

Anyone have any idea how AOL is making money?

people like my mother, who are paying both for AOL and for regular internet services :P


Not really.  That's been a sunsetting service for years, dropping off rapidly.  Most of their money comes from advertising sales and media services.  Subscription services (which includes their software licenses) is less than 29% of their revenue, and has been rapidly dropping.  It's less than half of what it was in 2009.

Surprisingly, they've actually been growing for 4 years, now that they've changed business models.  Probably time to rebrand, though.  The "AOL" name is going to be synonymous with mailed CDs and an anciently slow online services for the rest of time.
 
2014-04-15 03:16:15 PM  

stuhayes2010: monoski: J.Shelby: AOL is still around ?!?  Wow.

Anyone have any idea how AOL is making money?

The same way twitter and facebook do.  I have no idea.  Ads can't pay for that much.


Online advertising is a multibillion-dollar business; ads pay for much, especially at scale. Companies like Facebook or Google make almost all (> 95%) of their revenue from advertising. If/when Twitter turns profitable, it will be due to advertising, as well.
 
2014-04-15 03:22:24 PM  

stuhayes2010: The same way twitter and facebook do. I have no idea. Ads can't pay for that much.


Their annual report lists it out pretty clearly.  Over 1.6 billion dollars (70%) of their 2013 revenue is advertising.
 
2014-04-15 11:48:35 PM  
World's tiny violin...
 
2014-04-15 11:52:09 PM  
Watson saw his compensation slashed by 9% to $20.2 million in 2013, which resulted from an 18% drop in his stock-based compensation, which totaled $5.8 million. His salary, meanwhile, inched up 6% to $1.8 million.

So 9% is SLASHED! but a 6% (which is still twice as much as inflation) is inched.

So he runs the company poorly enough that the stocks drop, but still gets a raise in his salary. I guess it's good to be the CEO.
 
2014-04-16 06:43:47 PM  
i will never understand the disparity.

did any of these assholes work 1000 times harder than anybody else at the company?


/if i was a shareholder, first thing i'd vote out is exec bonuses
 
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