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2014-04-15 11:45:39 AM  

wraithmare: jshine: AspectRatio: m00: This is how WWII started.

No, no it isn't.

You're right -- WWII started when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

The Germans?

<cue>


Yes, Zee Germans.

Make sure you don't blow your own bollocks off.

/5 minutes Turkish
 
2014-04-15 11:45:45 AM  

MindStalker: cheyanne9: [www.bookwormroom.com image 599x799]

I don't get this argument. You have state sheriffs insisting that federally owned land is state land and people protesting their state right to use that land as they see fit.  If the state wants the land it can farking buy it from the federal government (well I guess the feds have to be willing to sell), but its land legally owned by the feds and has always been owned by the feds. This is only states rights as far as the right of states to annex federal property, which they don't have.


It is about the contract between lessor and lessee. Its not the turtle.
Lessor was not performing as per BLM agreement so the lessee got upset and didn't pay the BLM fees and it took many years to reach this boiling point.
Someone wants to use the land for something other than grazing.
 
2014-04-15 11:46:45 AM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: This must create almost as big of a farklib boner as Israel being overtaken by Syria


aren't you supposed to be salivating over Putin?
 
2014-04-15 11:49:17 AM  

youmightberight: spawn73: youmightberight: Now would be a good time to pull the A-10's out of mothballs.

Surely you are trolling.

Your response is to attack and kill, uh someone, in a country that doesn't concern USA, and furthermore could shot those farking A-10s down if they so pleased.


Or is it just that Ukrainian tank stuck in the mud you want to strafe?

Not trolling - Putin needs to keep his hands out of the cookie jar and him sending his guys in without insignia to act as "protestors" is complete bullshiat. The fact that you seem to be giving him a pass for his COMPLETELY OBVIOUS SHENANIGANS  is frankly disturbing to me. As for it not concerning us yes it does. Lines on a map may just be lines but they CLEARLY delineate the rule of one group from that of another. How would you like it if Canada decided to say - annex Alaska - I mean it's in their backyard and it's not that big of a change anyway right? Oh who cares that they sent soldiers in without insignia as pretense Canada is a nuclear armed country and we don't want a war with them so just give them what they want.

This is essentially what we are telling Ukraine - But wait there's more. We basically told these people that if they gave up their nukes we would respect their national boundaries. Now this isn't a promise to come to their aid and defense but guess what. Russia isn't going to stop once they have all of Ukraine.

So you shoot up the unmarked guys so this shiat stops before you have to really go to war.


yeah you're a fool now to give up nuclear weapons
 
2014-04-15 11:49:28 AM  

MooseBayou: youmightberight: Now would be a good time to pull the A-10's out of mothballs.

The ugliest, most intimidating airplane ever built.
[static4.businessinsider.com image 850x637]
Don't make us use this.  You will regret it.


Those are awesome.  Less of a plane, more of a Gatling gun with wings.
 
2014-04-15 11:49:40 AM  

youmightberight: How would you like it if Canada decided to say - annex Alaska - I mean it's in their backyard and it's not that big of a change anyway right?


What if Russia decided it wanted Alaska *BACK*?
 
2014-04-15 11:50:47 AM  

Tatterdemalian: Today: "Meh, it's just the Ukraine. Not worth starting a nuclear war over."
Tomorrow: "Meh, it's just Eastern Europe. Not worth starting a nuclear war over."
Eventually: "Meh, it's just one more unexplained nuclear detonantion in US flyover country. Not worth starting a nuclear war over."

/are good men doing nothing really still good?


Even if Russia takes the Ukraine, they can't expand a whole lot further without hitting new NATO nations like Poland. If anything, Putin is acting out of fear of the EU and NATO encroaching past the old Eastern Block and into the old Soviet Union, which is why he made his move when he did. The revolution in the Ukraine forced his hand, and he had to act to keep the Ukraine from slipping over to the West. If anything, his recent actions show how weak Russia has become, barely able to exert power over their own region without resorting to force.

Putin has been swinging his dick around a lot lately, but it really says more about his own insecurities than it does our weakness.
 
2014-04-15 11:51:06 AM  

youmightberight: spawn73: youmightberight: Now would be a good time to pull the A-10's out of mothballs.

Surely you are trolling.

Your response is to attack and kill, uh someone, in a country that doesn't concern USA, and furthermore could shot those farking A-10s down if they so pleased.


Or is it just that Ukrainian tank stuck in the mud you want to strafe?

Not trolling - Putin needs to keep his hands out of the cookie jar and him sending his guys in without insignia to act as "protestors" is complete bullshiat. The fact that you seem to be giving him a pass for his COMPLETELY OBVIOUS SHENANIGANS  is frankly disturbing to me. As for it not concerning us yes it does. Lines on a map may just be lines but they CLEARLY delineate the rule of one group from that of another. How would you like it if Canada decided to say - annex Alaska - I mean it's in their backyard and it's not that big of a change anyway right? Oh who cares that they sent soldiers in without insignia as pretense Canada is a nuclear armed country and we don't want a war with them so just give them what they want.

This is essentially what we are telling Ukraine - But wait there's more. We basically told these people that if they gave up their nukes we would respect their national boundaries. Now this isn't a promise to come to their aid and defense but guess what. Russia isn't going to stop once they have all of Ukraine.

So you shoot up the unmarked guys so this shiat stops before you have to really go to war.


Ukraine got a really bum deal. Maybe they're regretting ever so slightly that they tore up that EU brokered peace deal.

So, yeah, they're still going bankrupt. The upcomming election is even more a farce. It easier to mention who isn't running around acting like dickheads now.

How about this, the A-10 has no place there. The Ukraine doesn't even have a legitimate government to ask for such an assitance. And you'd probably not know who to shoot at anyway.

Economic aid, monitor that election, see of you can help Germany supply them with enough gas. You know, non-kneejerk reactions that'll blow up in your face?
 
2014-04-15 11:52:16 AM  

spawn73: dukeblue219: spawn73: WWII was basicly Europe

... and the Middle East, and North Africa, and SE Asia, and India, China, Japan, Australia...

That's a good point. Whatever Japan had going with China, and partly USA had very little to do with Europe.

Untill Japan started attacking all the Dutch and English colonies of course. But still.


Japan attacked European interests in the Pacific prior to attacking Pearl Harbor.
 
2014-04-15 11:54:51 AM  

sufferpuppet: MooseBayou: youmightberight: Now would be a good time to pull the A-10's out of mothballs.

The ugliest, most intimidating airplane ever built.
[static4.businessinsider.com image 850x637]
Don't make us use this.  You will regret it.

Those are awesome.  Less of a plane, more of a Gatling gun with wings.


The only problem with them is the fact that they basically require one hundred percent air superiority to be usable
 
2014-04-15 11:55:30 AM  

cheyanne9: MindStalker: cheyanne9: [www.bookwormroom.com image 599x799]

I don't get this argument. You have state sheriffs insisting that federally owned land is state land and people protesting their state right to use that land as they see fit.  If the state wants the land it can farking buy it from the federal government (well I guess the feds have to be willing to sell), but its land legally owned by the feds and has always been owned by the feds. This is only states rights as far as the right of states to annex federal property, which they don't have.

It is about the contract between lessor and lessee. Its not the turtle.
Lessor was not performing as per BLM agreement so the lessee got upset and didn't pay the BLM fees and it took many years to reach this boiling point.
Someone wants to use the land for something other than grazing.


Part of the problem is that the government wanted to knock back his cattle herd from 1,000 to 150.

Imagine if the government said to you "Hey, you can't work 40 hours a week anymore, you can only work 6 hours a week. At the same hourly rate.  With no compensation".

That's what started the whole thing.

/He should have payed the fees *AND* continued to graze as before.
 
2014-04-15 11:55:32 AM  

AdamK: youmightberight: spawn73: youmightberight: Now would be a good time to pull the A-10's out of mothballs.

Surely you are trolling.

Your response is to attack and kill, uh someone, in a country that doesn't concern USA, and furthermore could shot those farking A-10s down if they so pleased.


Or is it just that Ukrainian tank stuck in the mud you want to strafe?

Not trolling - Putin needs to keep his hands out of the cookie jar and him sending his guys in without insignia to act as "protestors" is complete bullshiat. The fact that you seem to be giving him a pass for his COMPLETELY OBVIOUS SHENANIGANS  is frankly disturbing to me. As for it not concerning us yes it does. Lines on a map may just be lines but they CLEARLY delineate the rule of one group from that of another. How would you like it if Canada decided to say - annex Alaska - I mean it's in their backyard and it's not that big of a change anyway right? Oh who cares that they sent soldiers in without insignia as pretense Canada is a nuclear armed country and we don't want a war with them so just give them what they want.

This is essentially what we are telling Ukraine - But wait there's more. We basically told these people that if they gave up their nukes we would respect their national boundaries. Now this isn't a promise to come to their aid and defense but guess what. Russia isn't going to stop once they have all of Ukraine.

So you shoot up the unmarked guys so this shiat stops before you have to really go to war.

yeah you're a fool now to give up nuclear weapons


Iraq gave up nuclear program, invaded by west.
Libya gave up nuclear program, overthrown by west.
Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons, abandoned by west presently being partitioned by east.

Errr... I guess South Africa turned out OK?

/hope Iran is taking notes
 
2014-04-15 11:55:51 AM  
m8.i.pbase.com
 
2014-04-15 11:59:39 AM  

MooseBayou: youmightberight: Now would be a good time to pull the A-10's out of mothballs.

The ugliest, most intimidating airplane ever built.
[static4.businessinsider.com image 850x637]
Don't make us use this.  You will regret it.


That plane is a sublime work of art.
 
2014-04-15 12:00:06 PM  
stream1.gifsoup.com
 
2014-04-15 12:02:01 PM  
It is my opinion that while Russians use the separatists for all they can, they will not invade as long as only firearms-armed separatists will die. There is no indication in Russian news, those I have access to, that they are ramping up the propaganda for actual invasion.

It is also my opinion that the armed guys there are either from Crimea (Aksyonov's thugs? Very possibly. Aksyonov is a bully and an idiot, he just could do something so monumentally stupid) or hireling of local oligarchs who are aligned with Russia (Rinat Akhmetov is one of those, is seems his money support separatists.)

We know that there were groups of hirelings in Crimea, including Serbians, of course Russians of all kinds, and so on. All of them traveled there in hopes of actual fighting, which they didn't get. Right now, they are not needed in Crimea; so they are probably bored and seek somebody who will pay them to do what they like best: cause troubles. There is no lack of those willing to pay...

I don't believe any single one of them is actually Russian soldier of spetsnaz; there is no point in using such people when there are plenty of "blackwater" type hirelings available, with perfect deniability, for whom not a single tear will be spent by anyone.
 
2014-04-15 12:02:29 PM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: This must create almost as big of a farklib boner as Israel being overtaken by Syria




www.lobshots.com
 
2014-04-15 12:04:14 PM  
Russian forces spotted in Eastern Ukraine.

I've only seen that one source, so take it with a grain of salt, I guess.
 
2014-04-15 12:05:07 PM  
Question - if Russian soldiers are captured (without identifying insignia) on Ukrainian soil, what would they be considered under Article 5 of the Geneva Convention - POWs, unlawful combatants, or spies / saboteurs?
 
2014-04-15 12:06:50 PM  

cheyanne9: MindStalker: cheyanne9: [www.bookwormroom.com image 599x799]

I don't get this argument. You have state sheriffs insisting that federally owned land is state land and people protesting their state right to use that land as they see fit.  If the state wants the land it can farking buy it from the federal government (well I guess the feds have to be willing to sell), but its land legally owned by the feds and has always been owned by the feds. This is only states rights as far as the right of states to annex federal property, which they don't have.

It is about the contract between lessor and lessee. Its not the turtle.
Lessor was not performing as per BLM agreement so the lessee got upset and didn't pay the BLM fees and it took many years to reach this boiling point.
Someone wants to use the land for something other than grazing.


What? There is no contract per say. Its rather simple. BLM manages the land and attempts to keep it fertile. If you want your animals to graze on BLM managed land you pay a fee.
Guy was grazing his animals on BLM land, and stated that BLM wasn't properly managing his animals for him (They aren't supposed to manage YOUR animals for you, that's your job), and insist upon grazing for free.
Yeah, I kinda get the locals are upset that they want to put up windfarms on the land or whatever.
Why do these people think that property rights are sacrosanct, except when its federal property.
 
2014-04-15 12:07:22 PM  

MindStalker: cheyanne9: [www.bookwormroom.com image 599x799]

I don't get this argument. You have state sheriffs insisting that federally owned land is state land and people protesting their state right to use that land as they see fit.  If the state wants the land it can farking buy it from the federal government (well I guess the feds have to be willing to sell), but its land legally owned by the feds and has always been owned by the feds. This is only states rights as far as the right of states to annex federal property, which they don't have.


How do you get this confused about the thread you're posting in?
 
2014-04-15 12:09:22 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Let's see. Now is the time where we

1. raise taxes

2. institute a draft

Oh wait. That model is outdated.

Nowadays, I think the model is

1. cut taxes on the wealthy

2. pay trillions to military contractors

3. force military volunteers to live in near poverty and serve multiple 15 month combat tours with little or no time off between tours

/You know, if you live on the right side of the tracks and know the right people, war can be a real money-maker.


Here's a better model. Females have achieved greater access to all sectors of the military. Let's end the descrimination of requiring only MALES to register for selective service.
 
2014-04-15 12:11:36 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: I know if I were a global power, I'd definitely let a ragtag bunch of highly visible ethnic gunmen represent my nation on the world stage, leading to a war that suits the interests of outsiders.


Umm, that's exactly what happened in Crimea  though, otherwise I might agree with you.
 
2014-04-15 12:15:01 PM  

dittybopper: youmightberight: How would you like it if Canada decided to say - annex Alaska - I mean it's in their backyard and it's not that big of a change anyway right?

What if Russia decided it wanted Alaska *BACK*?


Joke's on them. We already took the gold, oil, and useful timber. All that's left is the cold and the misery.
 
2014-04-15 12:16:13 PM  

chuggernaught: spawn73: dukeblue219: spawn73: WWII was basicly Europe

... and the Middle East, and North Africa, and SE Asia, and India, China, Japan, Australia...

That's a good point. Whatever Japan had going with China, and partly USA had very little to do with Europe.

Untill Japan started attacking all the Dutch and English colonies of course. But still.

Japan attacked European interests in the Pacific prior to attacking Pearl Harbor.


I did not know that. I guess I always just thought of Japans attacks on Singapore and Dutch East India as from when that first occured. But I could see Japan attacking Vichy France's Indochina first.
 
2014-04-15 12:17:52 PM  

youmightberight: Not trolling - Putin needs to keep his hands out of the cookie jar and him sending his guys in without insignia to act as "protestors" is complete bullshiat. The fact that you seem to be giving him a pass for his COMPLETELY OBVIOUS SHENANIGANS  is frankly disturbing to me. As for it not concerning us yes it does. Lines on a map may just be lines but they CLEARLY delineate the rule of one group from that of another. How would you like it if Canada decided to say - annex Alaska - I mean it's in their backyard and it's not that big of a change anyway right? Oh who cares that they sent soldiers in without insignia as pretense Canada is a nuclear armed country and we don't want a war with them so just give them what they want.


We would respond, but we wouldn't expect that Brazil or China would feel obligated to help us. Since, y'know, they have no interests in Alaska.

The ramifications of an open armed conflict between the two largest, most powerful military entities in the history of the world kind of need to be justified by the greater ramifications of not having the conflict.
 
2014-04-15 12:18:31 PM  

cheyanne9: MindStalker: cheyanne9: [www.bookwormroom.com image 599x799]

I don't get this argument. You have state sheriffs insisting that federally owned land is state land and people protesting their state right to use that land as they see fit.  If the state wants the land it can farking buy it from the federal government (well I guess the feds have to be willing to sell), but its land legally owned by the feds and has always been owned by the feds. This is only states rights as far as the right of states to annex federal property, which they don't have.

It is about the contract between lessor and lessee. Its not the turtle.
Lessor was not performing as per BLM agreement so the lessee got upset and didn't pay the BLM fees and it took many years to reach this boiling point.
Someone wants to use the land for something other than grazing.


At least keep your idiocy confined to the proper thread.
 
2014-04-15 12:21:04 PM  

MooseBayou: Poot beer: jshine: AspectRatio: m00: This is how WWII started.

No, no it isn't.

You're right -- WWII started when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

I thought it was when the Maine was bombed in the Gulf of Tonka or something.

Hertz' hostile takeover of Alamo?  Remember?


And that's why we went to war against the Avis Powers.
 
2014-04-15 12:21:38 PM  

dukeblue219: spawn73: WWII was basicly Europe

... and the Middle East, and North Africa, and SE Asia, and India, China, Japan, Australia...


There's the US, and then there's everywhere else - half and half.  Europe is a small part of that everywhere-else bit - it's basicly Europe, some oil refineries on some sand somewhere, and a place with lots of manufacturing plants.  At this point Europe is like our tiny, old, senile grandparent whom we still love even when he's babbling inanely - thank G-d for nursing homes, amirite?  Yeah, so it wasn't really a "World War" until we joined it.  It was basicly Europe or whatever.
 
2014-04-15 12:21:50 PM  
Russia is a dieing country. Check out their birth rates and economic conditions.

This is a distraction for the masses so Putin will look good while avoiding the real problems. It's a short term win for him but a long term loss. Massive amounts of foreign investment is already fleeing the country.


Also here is a US vs Russia military comparison if your interested.
 
2014-04-15 12:21:54 PM  

Cletus from Canuckistan: Question - if Russian soldiers are captured (without identifying insignia) on Ukrainian soil, what would they be considered under Article 5 of the Geneva Convention - POWs, unlawful combatants, or spies / saboteurs?


I've been thinking about that.

Technically the insignia doesn't have to be a Russian flag.  It could be just about anything, really.  Take a look at this photo:

www.blogcdn.com

They all appear to have a red and yellow ribbon on their uniforms.  That would be enough to trigger the "having a fixed distinctive sign recognisable at a distance" requirement.
 
2014-04-15 12:22:47 PM  

DrBenway: MooseBayou: Poot beer: jshine: AspectRatio: m00: This is how WWII started.

No, no it isn't.

You're right -- WWII started when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

I thought it was when the Maine was bombed in the Gulf of Tonka or something.

Hertz' hostile takeover of Alamo?  Remember?

And that's why we went to war against the Avis Powers.


Because they assassinated the Archie Duke Bunker?
 
2014-04-15 12:24:23 PM  

bobothemagnificent: [img.fark.net image 750x574]
We'll just send them Chuck.


I think he's a bit worn out.

ll-media.tmz.com
 
2014-04-15 12:25:48 PM  
spawn73:
Japan attacked European interests in the Pacific prior to attacking Pearl Harbor.

I did not know that. I guess I always just thought of Japans attacks on Singapore and Dutch East India as from when that first occured. But I could see Japan attacking Vichy France's Indochina first.


They sort of did. Japan did launch attacks on French and Dutch colonies, but only after both countries had become puppets of ally Germany.

France was actually fighting a war in Vietnam against the Vietnamese and the Chinese. China was a mess from 1930-1950.
 
2014-04-15 12:26:17 PM  
I do give Russia props for the logistics of their infiltrators' uniforms. They can't just have their army strip off their insignia and stroll in. There's gotta be someone in charge of mishmashing all the different clothing and tactical outfitting so it appears that it is a people's uprising, and not rank-and-file soldiers taking over the facilities.
 
2014-04-15 12:29:05 PM  

Grahor: It is my opinion that while Russians use the separatists for all they can, they will not invade as long as only firearms-armed separatists will die. There is no indication in Russian news, those I have access to, that they are ramping up the propaganda for actual invasion.

It is also my opinion that the armed guys there are either from Crimea (Aksyonov's thugs? Very possibly. Aksyonov is a bully and an idiot, he just could do something so monumentally stupid) or hireling of local oligarchs who are aligned with Russia (Rinat Akhmetov is one of those, is seems his money support separatists.)

We know that there were groups of hirelings in Crimea, including Serbians, of course Russians of all kinds, and so on. All of them traveled there in hopes of actual fighting, which they didn't get. Right now, they are not needed in Crimea; so they are probably bored and seek somebody who will pay them to do what they like best: cause troubles. There is no lack of those willing to pay...

I don't believe any single one of them is actually Russian soldier of spetsnaz; there is no point in using such people when there are plenty of "blackwater" type hirelings available, with perfect deniability, for whom not a single tear will be spent by anyone.


Yeah, wake me up when the tanks roll through Kharkov.  Pootie was pi*ssed when his Ukrainian puppet was forced to cut and run and he's just `shaping' the compliance of the `new' gov. in Kiev without Dioxin, this time .  I'd be curry combing for speculations on the energy market that look more like sure things from the time Yanukovych  went wheels down in Moscow.  It's not like Ukraine doesn't owe $7 billion, they can't pay, for Russian gas already sucked up (maybe pootie thinks he can get EU/IMF/US to settle that debt - or else...).
Anyway, it's all kabuki theater unless some tyro farks up - Pootie's got the whole `hydraulic despot' gig going for him (ala Frank Herbert -oil/gas=spice).  When the Germans commit to new reactors - then the shiat's getting serious:

sites.uci.edu
 
2014-04-15 12:32:58 PM  
No need for bloodshed.  Diplomacy and appeasement is the answer, perhaps a nice pact can be made.
Let's divide Ukraine evenly between Russia and  Poland and avoid this bloodshed!
Let's hold this meeting in a private London residence and the Ukrainians need not have any input in this affair.
 
2014-04-15 12:33:02 PM  
Outlaw country!! WOOOOOO
 
2014-04-15 12:34:41 PM  

Cletus from Canuckistan: Question - if Russian soldiers are captured (without identifying insignia) on Ukrainian soil, what would they be considered under Article 5 of the Geneva Convention - POWs, unlawful combatants, or spies / saboteurs?


They are not lawful combatants. You should be able to get away with executing them as spies.
 
2014-04-15 12:35:56 PM  
Ned Stark:

Iraq gave up nuclear program but still was starting shiat and blocking inspections, repeatedly skirting if not outright violating the terms of the ceasefire and had attempted to assassinate a former president, invaded by west.
Libya gave up nuclear program, overthrown by west after the Arab Spring in several countries encouraged locals to rise up against the leadership.
Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons, abandoned by west presently being partitioned by east.

Errr... I guess South Africa turned out OK?

/hope Iran is taking notes


I suspect Iran is looking to NK as a model, not Ukraine.
 
2014-04-15 12:37:15 PM  

svanmeter: TheShavingofOccam123: Let's see. Now is the time where we

1. raise taxes

2. institute a draft

Oh wait. That model is outdated.

Nowadays, I think the model is

1. cut taxes on the wealthy

2. pay trillions to military contractors

3. force military volunteers to live in near poverty and serve multiple 15 month combat tours with little or no time off between tours

/You know, if you live on the right side of the tracks and know the right people, war can be a real money-maker.

Here's a better model. Females have achieved greater access to all sectors of the military. Let's end the descrimination of requiring only MALES to register for selective service.


I think Congress and the POTUS authorized the use of female troops in combat quite a while ago. Whether they are now all eligible for military service via the draft I have no idea. If they aren't now, they will be whenever the draft is reinstituted.
 
2014-04-15 12:38:06 PM  
Ukrainian tanks on the move as "pro-Russian" gunmen dig in. The fecal matter has hit the whirling blades of doom rotating oscillator, everyone

There...converted to actual military parlance for Subitard, who is clearly nothing but an internet ninja and military wannabe.
 
2014-04-15 12:40:10 PM  

lifeboat:


Awesome!
 
2014-04-15 12:40:26 PM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: This must create almost as big of a farklib boner as Israel being overtaken by Syria


Most Farklibs hate armed conflicts. At least get your strawmen right.
 
2014-04-15 12:40:33 PM  

Pincy: IamKaiserSoze!!!: This must create almost as big of a farklib boner as Israel being overtaken by Syria

I'm pretty sure all the boners being created are on the Conservatives who have man crushes on Putin.


I am a conservative and I think Putin is a dick.

I do have a boner though. Your mom is graciously taking care of it right now...
 
2014-04-15 12:41:12 PM  

wraithmare: jshine: AspectRatio: m00: This is how WWII started.

No, no it isn't.

You're right -- WWII started when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

The Germans?


Oh come on people! Be precise. It was the EAST Germans that bombed Pearl Harbor. Farkin' Commies!
The West Germans were the good guys. They held the line against North Korea.
 
2014-04-15 12:41:53 PM  

dittybopper: TheShavingofOccam123: MG Smedley Butler won two Medals of Honor.

Means he had big brass balls.  Doesn't mean he was 100% *RIGHT*.  You know who else had medals of honor?

Vice Presidential candidate who was barely there James Stockdale.

Racist/Fascist Charles Lindbergh.

Just because you happen to be brave, doesn't make you infallible, or right about all things.


You might have a point if that was what made Butler right about things. The Medal of Honor is just a calling card.
 
2014-04-15 12:43:02 PM  

Egoy3k: I'm not sure I'd call this guy a 'protestor' maybe militiaman or rebel or soldier but not really a protestor.

[www.ctvnews.ca image 850x552]


balaclava tsar-photobomba.
 
2014-04-15 12:48:00 PM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: This must create almost as big of a farklib boner as Israel being overtaken by Syria


what? Putin is the hero of the right. They're fawning all over him over at Fox News. he's such a manly man.
 
2014-04-15 12:50:21 PM  

rwhamann: youmightberight: Not trolling - Putin needs to keep his hands out of the cookie jar and him sending his guys in without insignia to act as "protestors" is complete bullshiat. The fact that you seem to be giving him a pass for his COMPLETELY OBVIOUS SHENANIGANS  is frankly disturbing to me. As for it not concerning us yes it does. Lines on a map may just be lines but they CLEARLY delineate the rule of one group from that of another. How would you like it if Canada decided to say - annex Alaska - I mean it's in their backyard and it's not that big of a change anyway right? Oh who cares that they sent soldiers in without insignia as pretense Canada is a nuclear armed country and we don't want a war with them so just give them what they want.

We would respond, but we wouldn't expect that Brazil or China would feel obligated to help us. Since, y'know, they have no interests in Alaska.

The ramifications of an open armed conflict between the two largest, most powerful military entities in the history of the world kind of need to be justified by the greater ramifications of not having the conflict.


Absolutely, Mister Chamberlain.

/Just being snarky, not serious
 
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