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2014-04-15 04:20:41 PM

ourbigdumbmouth: I'm surprised so many occupy people are calling for the ranchers death.


Well, that would be surprising. Who is genuinely calling for this?
 
2014-04-15 04:28:18 PM

someonelse: ourbigdumbmouth: I'm surprised so many occupy people are calling for the ranchers death.

Well, that would be surprising. Who is genuinely calling for this?


The voices in his head.
 
2014-04-15 04:31:00 PM

Felgraf: Miss Alexandra: Because People in power are Stupid: [fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net image 521x350]

What part of "government OF, BY, and FOR the people" don't people get?

This just cracks me up, people accusing Cliven Bundy of "stealing" from the government...yet don't mind illegal aliens flocking over here and stealing everyone's resources.

I think it's hysterical, people accusing illegal aliens of 'stealing resources' without being able to give concrete examples of what they're 'stealing' (oil?), but ignore and *cheer* for a moocher in plain view, who *ADMITS* he's a moocher, but just doesn't want to pay for what he's taken.


I think it's hysterical that people like you point out that hypocrisy without realizing you're engaging in it. I favor the rule of law. So we should start deporting illegals too, correct?

Wait, you don't want to do that? You just stick up for the law when it's used against someone opposite of you politically?
 
2014-04-15 04:36:09 PM

SpacePirate: So we should start deporting illegals too, correct?


When did we stop?
 
2014-04-15 04:39:46 PM

Eagles409: [img.fark.net image 539x720]


Your blog sucks.
 
2014-04-15 04:43:06 PM

SpacePirate: I think it's hysterical that people like you point out that hypocrisy without realizing you're engaging in it. I favor the rule of law. So we should start deporting illegals too, correct?

Wait, you don't want to do that? You just stick up for the law when it's used against someone opposite of you politically?


We are deporting illegal aliens. Whether or not we should is kind of immaterial to what I was pointing out: She claimed Illegals are 'stealing resources' (which.. they.. aren't, really), while defending someone who is *literally stealing and farking up resources*.

I agree some laws are just and some laws are unjust, but that's also immaterial to the subject at hand, because that's not the bit I focused on. She focused on 'stealing resources' (I pointed out this is kinda just a fantasy, and asked her to name a resource they were stealing).

Furthermore, I also don't believe you should be able to just threaten violence and evade those laws.

It might have worked better if you'd suggested/claimed I was OK with people growing pot on federal land and trying to shoot officers. That's a straw man you could have built that is A) Analogous to the current situation ('Person using federal lands illegally'), and B) A good stereotype for someone you, apparently, consider your 'political opposite'.

Of course, it wouldn't work, because I think people who grow pot on federal land are farking assholes, because they're, among other things, farking up natural parks. But it at least would have been a *BETTER* "LOL U HYPOCRITE" than what you tried.

In short: You are bad at this. (And should feel bad zoidberg.jpg etc etc.)
 
2014-04-15 04:44:50 PM

someonelse: Well, that would be surprising. Who is genuinely calling for this?



Ishkur  for one.  Not sure if he is a OWS person or not.
Dumbass?  Certainly.
 
2014-04-15 04:44:51 PM

SpacePirate: Felgraf: Miss Alexandra: Because People in power are Stupid: [fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net image 521x350]

What part of "government OF, BY, and FOR the people" don't people get?

This just cracks me up, people accusing Cliven Bundy of "stealing" from the government...yet don't mind illegal aliens flocking over here and stealing everyone's resources.

I think it's hysterical, people accusing illegal aliens of 'stealing resources' without being able to give concrete examples of what they're 'stealing' (oil?), but ignore and *cheer* for a moocher in plain view, who *ADMITS* he's a moocher, but just doesn't want to pay for what he's taken.

I think it's hysterical that people like you point out that hypocrisy without realizing you're engaging in it. I favor the rule of law. So we should start deporting illegals too, correct?

Wait, you don't want to do that? You just stick up for the law when it's used against someone opposite of you politically?


Also, the person you're sticking up for is a geocentrist (So either they're A) A troll and farking around, or B) A crazy person.) Just thought you should know.
 
2014-04-15 04:46:01 PM

someonelse: Eagles409: [img.fark.net image 539x720]

Your blog sucks.


A: I don't have a blog

B: it was a joke, have a sense of humor
 
2014-04-15 04:46:55 PM

Felgraf: We are deporting illegal aliens.


If we feel like it.  Sometimes we don't.  Sometimes we don't arrest pot smokers.
 
2014-04-15 04:48:01 PM

randomjsa:
By the way if liberals really believed in the things they claim to, they would be supporting the Bundy Ranch. but liberals don't actually believe the things they claim to.


Trespassing cows are not an essential part of Liberalism.
 
2014-04-15 04:49:56 PM

HeadLever: Felgraf: We are deporting illegal aliens.

If we feel like it.  Sometimes we don't.  Sometimes we don't arrest pot smokers.


Or Jay walkers, or ticket every person who speeds, or arrest every person that throws an oil container or batteries in the trash....
 
2014-04-15 04:53:55 PM

Lee451: Dwight_Yeast: Lee451: I still say that if Bundy had been growing illegal marijuana on public land Fark would have an apoplectic fit from the self-righteous indignation,

And if he wore hot pants on Tuesdays we'd all be dying our hair purple.  Your point?

Yes, I can see the stoners in here doing just that


Do you think people should be allowed to grow cannabis on public land for profit?
 
2014-04-15 04:55:00 PM

HeadLever: Felgraf: We are deporting illegal aliens.

If we feel like it.  Sometimes we don't.  Sometimes we don't arrest pot smokers.


Exactly. Federal law trumps state law in the case of Marijuana's prohibition. So why bring out the big guns for some idiot cowboy that would rather pay his grazing fees to the state, rather than fed? It's an uneven application of the law and force.

As I said in the last thread however, Bundy is in the wrong. He should fight this in the legal system. Click this link if you're genuinely curious about what's happening to Nevada's ranchers.
 
2014-04-15 04:56:13 PM

doglover:
And, don't forget, it's worked so far. The BLT actually backed off.


And now I'm hungry.
 
2014-04-15 04:57:50 PM

This text is now purple: way south: The question is if he would have not been a terrorist if the fed had not botched both situations. There's no way to prove he wouldn't have found some other grievance to base his attack on.

There's no way to prove he wasn't a vessel of Gozer, either, so long as we're restricting ourselves to unfalsifiable hypotheticals.


 He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms.
 
2014-04-15 04:59:50 PM

HeadLever: someonelse: Well, that would be surprising. Who is genuinely calling for this?


Ishkur  for one.  Not sure if he is a OWS person or not.
Dumbass?  Certainly.


You seem to be ignoring this post he made. I wonder why?
 
2014-04-15 05:08:07 PM

SpacePirate: Click this link if you're genuinely curious about what's happening to Nevada's ranchers.


Oh, I have extended family that ranches and I know these issues all to well.   If you want another story to get your blood boiling on how bad some of these environmental groups can be, you can read this one.

Again, I agree that Bundy here is on the wrong side of the law, and I am hopeful that they can find a way to work things out.  Now with the spotlight on both sides maybe they will be willing to find a way to make an agreement actually work.
 
2014-04-15 05:08:52 PM

reubendaley: No - as a property owner I am fully in favor if holding people accountable for their actions, whether the plaintiff is a private citizen or a governmental entity.

Read my original comment (this is directed at all of the people who responded to my post) and tell me what I wrote that equates to supporting Bundy, not wanting him to pay up or wanting people to get away with fraud or rape. My original point was actually (perhaps too subtly) critical of the government's ineffective handling of this long-standing dispute.

If wiki is accurate that "Bundy was eventually prohibited from grazing his cattle on the land by an order issued in 1998 by the United States District Court for the District of Nevada in United States v. Bundy" then the action that triggered the recent protests should have been taken in 1998.

I'm ok with people interpreting my comments and presuming to know my stripe, but dayum - give a little thought to the exercise.


Except the government was nice and did not press the issue until later, with another court order aftert he cows expanded even further. Just because they did not force the issue then does not mean they cannot force it now, or even a new court order.
 
2014-04-15 05:09:46 PM

grumpfuff: You seem to be ignoring this post he made. I wonder why?


Because he was called out on his statement and that is about all he could have said without doubling down on teh stoopid?
 
2014-04-15 05:13:26 PM

HeadLever: grumpfuff: You seem to be ignoring this post he made. I wonder why?

Because he was called out on his statement and that is about all he could have said without doubling down on teh stoopid?


You're obviously not familiar with Ishkur. He didn't back down because of your brave and noble efforts.

He backed down because sometimes he wanders into threads and randomly trolls.
 
2014-04-15 05:14:11 PM
lets, at least be honest. This was a comment from one guy, from one militia (or maybe not even), giving his ignorant thoughts. This does not mean he represents the protesters or the militia in or the Bundy family. As much fun as it is to jump on the bandwagon bashing the wingnuts, let us at least be realistic.

Let's take a look at the bigger picture.

First of all, I don't believe for a minute that all this is about an endangered turttle. that is plain old bullocks. I mean really, heavily armed federal agents to protect a turttle that has lived alongside these cattle for well over a century? come on, my 13yr old can come up with better excuses than that!

Second, if this is about BLM land fees, why did it happen now? why wait 20yrs? I know the courts are slow, but not that slow. If I don't pay my taxes you can bet it won't take 20yrs for them to take everything I own.

Third, Senator Reid, I know there have been some theories thrown around accusing him with faulty logic, but why is he throwing his two cents into the ring, claiming "it's not over"? Is he just trying to cause trouble? Doesn't he realize he's not law enforcement, he's not the governer, and it's none of his business?


I don't claim to know what is going on out there, but I sure as fark don't believe the story we are being fed by the media, the government, or the Bundy's/supporters.
 
2014-04-15 05:18:22 PM

Launch Code: America is finally seeing how the obama administration treats citizens. 12 million illegal immigrants in the country, no problem. A rancher letting his cows eat some grass and It's time to send in the troops. It's disgusting how quickly barry will send storm troopers and snipers to harass and threaten American Citizens.
Why do democrats hate hard working Americans so much?


I never realized that watching cows eat and fark was "hard work", but I guess to some people it is?  Since that's the case why do they not think that raising a human child is also "hard work"?
 
2014-04-15 05:29:57 PM

Turbo Cojones: I never realized that watching cows eat and fark was "hard work"


Never been on a ranch I take it?

Appeal to ignorance?
 
2014-04-15 05:32:30 PM

HeadLever: Prank Call of Cthulhu: So what? Ooooh, martyrs, booga-booga. I don't think letting the spoiled little children have their way is a workable solution.

so they need to be killed?


No, ideally they need to be arrested, put on trial, and, if found guilty, punished in accordance with the law.  If that means jailtime, fine, or a fine, great.  And if they're found not guilty, that's okie-dokie, too.

Now, if --- and I repeat, only IF --- they start shooting guns at law-enforcement officers, then appropriate force should be used to prevent LEOs (or innocent bystanders) from getting killed.  And if "appropriate force" means killing them dead, I'm ok with that.  Of course, even then, if there were a way to arrest them without killing them (that did not ultimately mean more deaths), that would obviously be preferable.
 
2014-04-15 05:35:01 PM

realistrabbit: Second, if this is about BLM land fees, why did it happen now? why wait 20yrs? I know the courts are slow, but not that slow. If I don't pay my taxes you can bet it won't take 20yrs for them to take everything I own.


1. They're not taxes. They're land use fees. Totally different animal.
2. It took them 20 years because he's been stalling them in local, state, and federal court. The seizure order came after he disobeyed a federal appeals court order to stop using the land.

realistrabbit: Third, Senator Reid, I know there have been some theories thrown around accusing him with faulty logic, but why is he throwing his two cents into the ring, claiming "it's not over"? Is he just trying to cause trouble? Doesn't he realize he's not law enforcement, he's not the governer, and it's none of his business?


The Senator Reid conspiracy theory has been debunked numerous times on FARK and elsewhere. He is, however, a senator from Nevada, and thus a representative of that state.
 
2014-04-15 05:42:32 PM

grumpfuff: JohnnyC: jntaylor63: What amazes me on this is all of the local and national GOP support this guy was getting.  This man is a deadbeat and DOES NOT PAY HIS taxes.  Isn't this guy a moocher?  A taker?

All is forgiven if you claim to support the GOP. You're only on the shiat list if you don't vote Republican.

What amuses me is since he's a sovereign citizen type, it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't vote Republican. I bet he'd be pulling this same shiat if an R was president.


I suspect he votes Tea Party where he can and Republican where he can't. Doesn't matter either way really. Considering the Tea Party is a subset of the Republican party, there isn't a lot of difference.
 
2014-04-15 05:55:02 PM

grumpfuff: HeadLever: grumpfuff: You seem to be ignoring this post he made. I wonder why?

Because he was called out on his statement and that is about all he could have said without doubling down on teh stoopid?

You're obviously not familiar with Ishkur. He didn't back down because of your brave and noble efforts.

He backed down because sometimes he wanders into threads and randomly trolls.



Also, the crucifixions that he called for were from Stephen King's novel The Stand.
 
2014-04-15 06:01:48 PM

realistrabbit: lets, at least be honest. This was a comment from one guy, from one militia (or maybe not even), giving his ignorant thoughts. This does not mean he represents the protesters or the militia in or the Bundy family. As much fun as it is to jump on the bandwagon bashing the wingnuts, let us at least be realistic.

Let's take a look at the bigger picture.

First of all, I don't believe for a minute that all this is about an endangered turttle. that is plain old bullocks. I mean really, heavily armed federal agents to protect a turttle that has lived alongside these cattle for well over a century? come on, my 13yr old can come up with better excuses than that!

Second, if this is about BLM land fees, why did it happen now? why wait 20yrs? I know the courts are slow, but not that slow. If I don't pay my taxes you can bet it won't take 20yrs for them to take everything I own.

Third, Senator Reid, I know there have been some theories thrown around accusing him with faulty logic, but why is he throwing his two cents into the ring, claiming "it's not over"? Is he just trying to cause trouble? Doesn't he realize he's not law enforcement, he's not the governer, and it's none of his business?


I don't claim to know what is going on out there, but I sure as fark don't believe the story we are being fed by the media, the government, or the Bundy's/supporters.

I've noticed a very real correlation between those who uncritically accept looney conspiracy theories, and people who don't seem to understand the difference between a turtle and a tortoise. The words are not synonyms.
 
2014-04-15 06:21:29 PM

Dansker: randomjsa:
By the way if liberals really believed in the things they claim to, they would be supporting the Bundy Ranch. but liberals don't actually believe the things they claim to.

Trespassing cows are not an essential part of Liberalism.


Oh, bullshiat. The Green Party plank #5:
"...we respect the right of cows to roam freely, for hamburger and steak know no boundaries."

Deal with it libbo.
 
2014-04-15 06:28:02 PM
realistrabbit:
Third, Senator Reid, I know there have been some theories thrown around accusing him with faulty logic, but why is he throwing his two cents into the ring, claiming "it's not over"? Is he just trying to cause trouble? Doesn't he realize he's not law enforcement, he's not the governer, and it's none of his business?

So, the Republican senator should stay out of it as well, correct?  They are the representatives to the Federal government from the state of Nevada.  I don't see why he would consider what happens on federal land in his state to be 'none of his business'.
 
2014-04-15 06:34:01 PM

dr_blasto: Dansker: randomjsa:
By the way if liberals really believed in the things they claim to, they would be supporting the Bundy Ranch. but liberals don't actually believe the things they claim to.

Trespassing cows are not an essential part of Liberalism.

Oh, bullshiat. The Green Party plank #5:
"...we respect the right of cows to roam freely, for hamburger and steak know no boundaries."

Deal with it libbo.


Touche.
Mmm... plank steak!
 
2014-04-15 06:39:55 PM

HeadLever: Turbo Cojones: I never realized that watching cows eat and fark was "hard work"

Never been on a ranch I take it?

Appeal to ignorance?


Just how many hooks do you have in your mouth at this point?
 
2014-04-15 07:30:33 PM

Brick-House: You libs really ought to read a little history and see that the founding fathers wanted a Federal Government with LIMITED POWERS leaving matters like this to the states.


All you're missing is "Study it out"
 
2014-04-15 07:44:29 PM

SpacePirate: So we should start deporting illegals too, correct?


Stop lying.
 
2014-04-15 07:46:15 PM

realistrabbit: I don't claim to know what is going on out there, but I sure as fark don't believe the story we are being fed by the media, the government, or the Bundy's/supporters.


...so, basically, you know absolutely nothing about this case. Good to know.
 
2014-04-15 08:12:53 PM

hardinparamedic: realistrabbit: Second, if this is about BLM land fees, why did it happen now? why wait 20yrs? I know the courts are slow, but not that slow. If I don't pay my taxes you can bet it won't take 20yrs for them to take everything I own.

1. They're not taxes. They're land use fees. Totally different animal.
2. It took them 20 years because he's been stalling them in local, state, and federal court. The seizure order came after he disobeyed a federal appeals court order to stop using the land.

realistrabbit: Third, Senator Reid, I know there have been some theories thrown around accusing him with faulty logic, but why is he throwing his two cents into the ring, claiming "it's not over"? Is he just trying to cause trouble? Doesn't he realize he's not law enforcement, he's not the governer, and it's none of his business?

The Senator Reid conspiracy theory has been debunked numerous times on FARK and elsewhere. He is, however, a senator from Nevada, and thus a representative of that state.


I know they are different, I was just making the point that as slow as the courts are, they aren't that slow.

And as I pointed out, I know the Reid theory has been debunked, and I know he is a rep from NV, but that is beside the point. He is a Senator, not a governor, not a judge, not even blm or law enforcement. So where does he get the authority to claim it's not over when everyone else said it was? It has nothing to do with him and he legally has no say in it. It just sounds to me like he was trying to play off his being named in the conspiracy theory to stir up more trouble. Being in his position as long as he has, he knows good and well the power of suggestion.
 
2014-04-15 08:33:03 PM

realistrabbit: I know they are different, I was just making the point that as slow as the courts are, they aren't that slow.


They are if someone continues to file legal motions and delays. Federal appellate court cases can literally last decades if they aren't politically expedient to handle. And it hasn't gotten better since 2008, when the Republican Party started trying to block as many court appointments as possible to fill vacancies in the federal judiciary.

realistrabbit: So where does he get the authority to claim it's not over when everyone else said it was? It has nothing to do with him and he legally has no say in it. It just sounds to me like he was trying to play off his being named in the conspiracy theory to stir up more trouble.


The incident, AFAIK, is occurring in is congressional district, and he was named as a party involved in this early on by Alex Jones, which the media then ran with.
 
2014-04-15 08:34:16 PM

realistrabbit: He is a Senator, not a governor, not a judge, not even blm or law enforcement. So where does he get the authority to claim it's not over when everyone else said it was?


Who else has said it was over?  I don't think his statement was one of authority and he never claimed or led anyone to believe it was.  Is a Senator not allowed to speak about the activities of the government in the state he represents?

You really are stretching here.   I guess state reps should not comment on federal immigration laws and actions, right?
 
2014-04-15 09:48:32 PM

Ex-Texan: Do it russian style. Send in some Comanches, pick up the militia member parts with tweezers. The parts you can find, anyway. Make no apologies, move on.  Send that schmuck a bill from the gubmint if for anything else, being a grandstaning asshole.
Hope they have a BBQ, and chat=rge him, serving cattle the BLM took from him.


Why?  Why NOT wait and arrest him later?  It's been 20 years, you think 20 more days is unacceptable?  Or do you just like the idea of killing derpy people that much?  Let me warn you, if we try to kill every derper on the planet, even the combined US Armed Forces will run out of ammunition eventually.
 
2014-04-15 10:31:10 PM

IlGreven: SpacePirate: So we should start deporting illegals too, correct?

Stop lying.


Am I?

FTFA:
"Homeland Security Secretary  acknowledged Tuesday that his department's deportation numbers are now mostly made up of illegal immigrants caught at the border, not just those from the interior, which means they can't be compared one-to-one with deportations under President Bush or other prior administrations."
 
2014-04-15 10:49:04 PM

patrick767: Baz744:
Sorry to rain on your anti-America propaganda, but "free speech zones" are erected to protect First Amendment rights in situations where the potential for violence calls for heavy law enforcement to preserve order.

Riiight. You are literally the first person I have ever seen defend the "free speech zones". It's funny how sometimes these free speech zones are many blocks away from the actual event. It conveniently puts protesters in a place where the vast majority of attendees and especially the media covering the event won't see or hear them unless they go well out of their way.


Well, if it helps, I agree with Baz744, and I gave a longer explanation of why in an earlier Fark thread, so now  you know of two people who defend the "free speech zones."  I'm not delighted with them, but they are a necessary evil.  As for what else you said, I agree with you that they can be, and are, abused for the convenience of the government.  But getting rid of them altogether would be throwing out the baby with the bathwater, as the saying goes.  Better instead to have regulations that require them to be big enough, and close enough, so that government agencies can't abuse them the way you describe.
 
2014-04-15 10:52:36 PM

jndisharif: Came to see what happens when anti-law enforcement, damn-the-man Farkers realize have to defend their savior's law enforcement apparatus. Left amused.


Well, since you're evidently making it all up in your head anyway, I guess it's just as well you've dreamed up a scenario that amuses you.
 
2014-04-15 10:55:28 PM

SpacePirate: HeadLever: Felgraf: We are deporting illegal aliens.

If we feel like it.  Sometimes we don't.  Sometimes we don't arrest pot smokers.

Exactly. Federal law trumps state law in the case of Marijuana's prohibition. So why bring out the big guns for some idiot cowboy that would rather pay his grazing fees to the state, rather than fed? It's an uneven application of the law and force.

As I said in the last thread however, Bundy is in the wrong. He should fight this in the legal system. Click this link if you're genuinely curious about what's happening to Nevada's ranchers.


If he was truly trying to pay his grazing fees to the state, has he been sending those fees to the state for 20 years? Because if not, I call B.S.
 
2014-04-15 11:01:43 PM

Felgraf: SpacePirate: I think it's hysterical that people like you point out that hypocrisy without realizing you're engaging in it. I favor the rule of law. So we should start deporting illegals too, correct?

Wait, you don't want to do that? You just stick up for the law when it's used against someone opposite of you politically?

We are deporting illegal aliens. Whether or not we should is kind of immaterial to what I was pointing out: She claimed Illegals are 'stealing resources' (which.. they.. aren't, really), while defending someone who is *literally stealing and farking up resources*.

I agree some laws are just and some laws are unjust, but that's also immaterial to the subject at hand, because that's not the bit I focused on. She focused on 'stealing resources' (I pointed out this is kinda just a fantasy, and asked her to name a resource they were stealing).


It's sometimes stated that illegal immigrants are "stealing our jobs."  I'm not saying that I think this assertion is true, but if we are being asked, in general, what resources illegal immigrants are stealing, I suppose "jobs" count as a resource.

It would then be up to her, however, to demonstrate that they actually ARE stealing jobs from US citizens.
 
2014-04-15 11:04:04 PM

grumpfuff: someonelse: ourbigdumbmouth: I'm surprised so many occupy people are calling for the ranchers death.

Well, that would be surprising. Who is genuinely calling for this?

The voices in his head.



http://www.fark.com/comments/8220706/90308286#c90308286
DrDeildel:
// because that's what they are - terrorists - plain and simple
// part of me wants the Feds to lay waste to the place, Waco-style, just to make the point that laws mean things even if you own a Second Amendment "solution"
// another part wants them to die the slow death of preponderating court decisions and loss of assets - peaceful resolution



http://www.fark.com/comments/8220706/90310228#c90310228
partisan222:
/screw this jackass. Pump him and all his well-armed terrorists full of drone missiles
 
2014-04-15 11:07:44 PM

Dansker: doglover:
And, don't forget, it's worked so far. The BLT actually backed off.

And now I'm hungry.


MLTs are better, especially where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe.  They're so perky, I love that.
 
2014-04-15 11:21:15 PM

HeadLever: SpacePirate: Click this link if you're genuinely curious about what's happening to Nevada's ranchers.

Oh, I have extended family that ranches and I know these issues all to well.   If you want another story to get your blood boiling on how bad some of these environmental groups can be, you can read this one.


You're right about one thing.  That article did get my blood boiling.  Just not at the rangers.  At that asshat Chilton, and the writer who penned that rambling drek, and at you for wasting my time.  To hell with the lot of you.  And I want back the 10 minutes I wasted until I got to the actual point on buried on page 5.

Somebody needs to fire that writer and explain as they're escorting him to the door that he was hired to write news articles, not detective fiction.
 
2014-04-15 11:23:20 PM

ourbigdumbmouth: grumpfuff: someonelse: ourbigdumbmouth: I'm surprised so many occupy people are calling for the ranchers death.

Well, that would be surprising. Who is genuinely calling for this?

The voices in his head.


http://www.fark.com/comments/8220706/90308286#c90308286
DrDeildel:
// because that's what they are - terrorists - plain and simple
// part of me wants the Feds to lay waste to the place, Waco-style, just to make the point that laws mean things even if you own a Second Amendment "solution"
// another part wants them to die the slow death of preponderating court decisions and loss of assets - peaceful resolution


http://www.fark.com/comments/8220706/90310228#c90310228
partisan222:
/screw this jackass. Pump him and all his well-armed terrorists full of drone missiles


So, you're going to argue that "So many occupy people" = "two people on Fark" ?
 
2014-04-15 11:29:09 PM

Repo Man: realistrabbit: lets, at least be honest. This was a comment from one guy, from one militia (or maybe not even), giving his ignorant thoughts. This does not mean he represents the protesters or the militia in or the Bundy family. As much fun as it is to jump on the bandwagon bashing the wingnuts, let us at least be realistic.

Let's take a look at the bigger picture.

First of all, I don't believe for a minute that all this is about an endangered turttle. that is plain old bullocks. I mean really, heavily armed federal agents to protect a turttle that has lived alongside these cattle for well over a century? come on, my 13yr old can come up with better excuses than that!

Second, if this is about BLM land fees, why did it happen now? why wait 20yrs? I know the courts are slow, but not that slow. If I don't pay my taxes you can bet it won't take 20yrs for them to take everything I own.

Third, Senator Reid, I know there have been some theories thrown around accusing him with faulty logic, but why is he throwing his two cents into the ring, claiming "it's not over"? Is he just trying to cause trouble? Doesn't he realize he's not law enforcement, he's not the governer, and it's none of his business?


I don't claim to know what is going on out there, but I sure as fark don't believe the story we are being fed by the media, the government, or the Bundy's/supporters.
I've noticed a very real correlation between those who uncritically accept looney conspiracy theories, and people who don't seem to understand the difference between a turtle and a tortoise. The words are not synonyms.


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