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(Opposing Views)   Huh. Apparently teachers *can't* order older students to attack a 7th grader. Live and learn   (opposingviews.com) divider line 45
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2014-04-15 12:27:12 AM  
Actually it looks like they can.


Radravious Williams

He's the Roman emperor of rad raves.
 
2014-04-15 03:43:19 AM  
Ah, Florida. Putting the "duh" in "dumbass" since 1819.
 
2014-04-15 03:43:28 AM  

fusillade762: Actually it looks like they can.


Radravious Williams

He's the Roman emperor of rad raves.


Or of ravenous radicals...
 
2014-04-15 03:50:48 AM  
So much for a teaching moment.
 
2014-04-15 03:51:45 AM  
The article was pretty vague. If the teacher thought her safety was threatened, then I don't blame her. A lot of kids are thugs. It's hard to say without more details.
 
2014-04-15 03:53:28 AM  
I'm surprised there haven't been criminal charges
 
2014-04-15 03:55:16 AM  
My outrage depends on how much of an asshole the kid is.
 
2014-04-15 03:57:55 AM  
 
2014-04-15 04:07:17 AM  

Abacus9: The article was pretty vague. If the teacher thought her safety was threatened, then I don't blame her. A lot of kids are thugs. It's hard to say without more details.


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2014-04-15 04:16:19 AM  
I love it what they mention that the "entire incident was caught on video" then never show you the farking video.
 
2014-04-15 04:38:10 AM  
It is what it is.
 
2014-04-15 04:44:08 AM  
Yep. It is what it is.
 
2014-04-15 05:07:55 AM  
Sure they can. Older kids seek out opportunities for sanctioned brutality.

When I was a school bus driver, I used to use the threat of violence from older kids to whip younger kids into shape all the time. You have no idea how effective a behavior modification strategy the following is: "Gee, Justin - it sure would be a shame if Rob decided to MAKE you knock it off while I looked the other way for the next ten minutes, wouldn't it?" The threat alone is usually more than enough to fix the problem.

Sometimes kids are just little shiats, and since there's so little school authorities are allowed to do anymore to knock kids back into line, it only makes sense they'd farm it out to other kids. Sometimes you gotta be a pragmatist.

Sounds like this teacher took it too far, is all. A bit of a discreet thumpin' might do some good, but a wholesale beatdown is probably over the top.
 
2014-04-15 05:14:30 AM  
Middle school is the problem. We need to restructure those four years. I would like to take a cohort of twenty fifth graders and for four years rotate them through four specific areas of training: archery, mountaineering, sailing, and farming. Zero classrooms for four years. Then drop them off at the local high school and track their progress. I bet they would crush it.
 
2014-04-15 05:38:10 AM  
I'm going to be hones with you. Yeah, no.
 
2014-04-15 05:39:05 AM  

AMonkey'sUncle: I'm going to be hones with you. Yeah, no.


I can't spill good.
 
2014-04-15 05:40:02 AM  

August11: Middle school is the problem. We need to restructure those four years. I would like to take a cohort of twenty fifth graders and for four years rotate them through four specific areas of training: archery, mountaineering, sailing, and farming. Zero classrooms for four years. Then drop them off at the local high school and track their progress. I bet they would crush it.


What is best in life? Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the cheerleaders.
 
2014-04-15 05:44:39 AM  
A lot of people who never left school between education and employemnt also never left it institutionally or socially.  They're still the chubby kid in the front of the class and they see the world as they did all those years ago.  And that's the reason you noticed that some of your teachers were completely full of sh*t, but couldon't quite figure out why.
 
2014-04-15 05:52:14 AM  

log_jammin: I love it what they mention that the "entire incident was caught on video" then never show you the farking video.


It's in the article, not unedited, but it shows you some.
 
2014-04-15 06:04:58 AM  
angryczeck.com
DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED?!
 
2014-04-15 06:28:18 AM  

MagSeven: It's in the article, not unedited, but it shows you some.


It's there, edited, and with an anchorman standing in front of it for half the time.

I mean how difficult would it be to show us the entire unedited video.
 
2014-04-15 07:03:55 AM  

Abacus9: fusillade762: Actually it looks like they can.


Radravious Williams

He's the Roman emperor of rad raves.

Or of ravenous radicals...


He sounds a notowious cwiminal.
 
2014-04-15 07:40:16 AM  

log_jammin: I love it what they mention that the "entire incident was caught on video" then never show you the farking video.


The full video is here
 
2014-04-15 07:57:36 AM  
You can't order them but perhaps you can entise them with the promise of sex.
 
2014-04-15 07:58:19 AM  
football coaches order player on player "discipline" all the time, why can't teachers?
 
2014-04-15 08:07:01 AM  
They can order them.  Whether or not the students responds is all a matter of training.
 
2014-04-15 08:32:32 AM  
I take it the lesson here is to administer your beatdowns in person.
 
2014-04-15 09:00:43 AM  

Pumpernickel bread: football coaches order player on player "discipline" all the time, why can't teachers?


"We're not the team...we're the equipment!  *They're* the team (points at executives)!"
"What you have just witnessed is one player using mental intimidation to psych out another."
"Now *that's* concentration, Elliot!"
"You can take your scholarship and shove it up your ass with a red hot poker!"
"You wanna have a good time, well go ahead & laugh it up!  But you'll do it on somebody else's football team!"
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

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2014-04-15 09:07:05 AM  

Brick-House: You can't order them but perhaps you can entise them with the promise of sex.


I don't think any teenage male is that horny.
 
2014-04-15 09:14:06 AM  

thepeterd: log_jammin: I love it what they mention that the "entire incident was caught on video" then never show you the farking video.

The full video is here


thank you
 
2014-04-15 09:23:50 AM  

Devolving_Spud: Abacus9: fusillade762: Actually it looks like they can.


Radravious Williams

He's the Roman emperor of rad raves.

Or of ravenous radicals...

He sounds a notowious cwiminal.


We haven't got him, sir.
 
2014-04-15 09:51:33 AM  

thepeterd: log_jammin: I love it what they mention that the "entire incident was caught on video" then never show you the farking video.

The full video is here


Can anyone look at that video and think public middle school is anything but a prison without guards?
 
2014-04-15 10:25:51 AM  

sniderman: [angryczeck.com image 288x288]
DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED?!


Came for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2014-04-15 10:44:37 AM  
 
2014-04-15 11:05:33 AM  

DanZero: Non OV Link


officer, gentleman, you etc
 
2014-04-15 11:41:05 AM  

Devolving_Spud: Abacus9: fusillade762: Actually it looks like they can.


Radravious Williams

He's the Roman emperor of rad raves.

Or of ravenous radicals...

He sounds a notowious cwiminal.


Welease....Wadwavious!
 
2014-04-15 11:41:38 AM  
Middle school is a terrible time for people. I had to prepare my autistic mentee for middle school through victim avoidance training. You literally help them survive the terrible with the same classes they offer prisoners.
 
2014-04-15 11:48:01 AM  
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Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon... you know, cause I've worked in a lot of schools, and I tell you, people do that all the time.
 
2014-04-15 11:48:35 AM  
The stupid in here is approaching hilarious levels.
 
2014-04-15 12:49:39 PM  

thepeterd: log_jammin: I love it what they mention that the "entire incident was caught on video" then never show you the farking video.

The full video is here


It even has a time code on it, and those are very difficult to fake.
 
2014-04-15 12:57:04 PM  

Abacus9: The article was pretty vague. If the teacher thought her safety was threatened, then I don't blame her. A lot of kids are thugs. It's hard to say without more details.


It is not hard to say. You don't prevent violence with pre-preemptive violence, especially in a school, and most especially as a teacher.

Personally, I am surprised the board acted so swiftly in firing her stupid ass. Hope she can find another career, because she's ruined this one.
 
2014-04-15 01:18:47 PM  
Considering my own son has had dealings with her a time or two, I'm not surprised at this...

Her answer, when my son was being bullied by a much bigger kid was "Well, he doesn't like anyone"... Like that made it all better, since the kid was notorious for bullying a lot of kids since he'd been held back a few years, so he was quite a bit bigger than his classmates and they refused to do anything to the kid...

Why yes, I did the "grumpycat - Good.jpg" when I read about this...
 
2014-04-15 01:23:54 PM  
Ender
 
2014-04-15 02:05:31 PM  
Damn autoload videos. It's about as bad as Huffington post after AOL took over.
 
2014-04-16 10:54:43 AM  

bniath: It even has a time code on it, and those are very difficult to fake.


For the benefit of the court, would you please explain "time code"?

/came for the Few Good Men reference
//leaving, etc.
 
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