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(Business Insider)   In today's "Ad disguised as a news article," Volvo shows off its new inflatable child-seat. Wait, that's actually pretty clever   (businessinsider.com) divider line 37
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2014-04-14 03:46:57 PM
Volvo: Keeping you safe and bored since 1927.
 
2014-04-14 03:52:18 PM
What if we don't have inflatable children?
 
2014-04-14 04:06:25 PM

Nogrhi: What if we don't have inflatable children?


You should.  Look at the potential they have!

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Pilot!
 
2014-04-14 04:12:20 PM

blatz514: Nogrhi: What if we don't have inflatable children?

You should.  Look at the potential they have!

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Pilot!


A good career is a different issue, altogether.
 
2014-04-14 04:23:34 PM

Nogrhi: blatz514: Nogrhi: What if we don't have inflatable children?

You should.  Look at the potential they have!

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Pilot!

A good career is a different issue, altogether.


A good career is a different issue
 
2014-04-14 04:27:37 PM
Only works in volvos? Huh?
 
2014-04-14 04:27:39 PM

blatz514: Nogrhi: What if we don't have inflatable children?

You should.  Look at the potential they have!



Pilot!


Yeah, but most just end up being sex toys.
 
2014-04-14 04:31:08 PM
Way back when I was a kid my parents just said "Git in the car!" and I did and I'm still alive today.  Oh, and my parent's loved me more than the car seats I sat in.
 
2014-04-14 04:35:09 PM

gfid: Way back when I was a kid my parents just said "Git in the car!" and I did and I'm still alive today.  Oh, and my parent's loved me more than the car seats I sat in.


You had car seats?

/Get off my lawn!
//Finally....lawn.
 
2014-04-14 04:39:20 PM
Weighs 11 pounds? No one is going to carry one of those around. My entire backpacking setup without food and water is 12 pounds. That's not a casual amount of weight to carry in addition to a diaper bag and purse and a baby. It's not going to cause people to carry the child seat with them. And the 40 second inflate time + installation isn't going to make it any more convenient to switch between cars. The only demographic this could serve is people who want to keep a carseat in the car but only use it occasionally and don't like the space it takes... like maybe grandmothers?

Beyond that it doesn't matter because it will NEVER get the regulatory OK in the US.
 
2014-04-14 04:42:33 PM

That Guy Jeff: Weighs 11 pounds? No one is going to carry one of those around. My entire backpacking setup without food and water is 12 pounds. That's not a casual amount of weight to carry in addition to a diaper bag and purse and a baby. It's not going to cause people to carry the child seat with them. And the 40 second inflate time + installation isn't going to make it any more convenient to switch between cars. The only demographic this could serve is people who want to keep a carseat in the car but only use it occasionally and don't like the space it takes... like maybe grandmothers?

Beyond that it doesn't matter because it will NEVER get the regulatory OK in the US.


Considering who I see driving Volvos, it wouldn't surprise me if they were marketing it for grandmothers.
 
2014-04-14 04:46:56 PM
Does anyone remember that (US) TV show where people would peddle their inventions to judges for funding? The winner was a gyroscoping car seat that was supposed to be the Best Thing EVER.

And it was never seen again.

Sad story actually. A dad lost his baby daughter in a car accident, despite a top of the line car seat. So he made it his life's work, and invested everything he had, to invent a better one. Which, supposedly, he did. Then for whatever reason, it goes nowhere.

Then there was the guy who had a simple but brilliant idea to fill sand bags much easier and faster than the way we've always done it. He lost.
 
2014-04-14 04:47:48 PM
What is with the wireless logo? Is that supposed to mean its battery powered or that for some stupid reason it hooks up to wifi?
 
2014-04-14 04:48:04 PM
WTF? Wireless? Is this a belated April Fool's joke?
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2014-04-14 04:49:50 PM
Why doesn't anyone make integrated car seats anymore? They were great.
 
2014-04-14 04:52:46 PM
Anyone else think of Demolition Man and get hungry for a mini canoli?
 
2014-04-14 04:53:50 PM

That Guy Jeff: Weighs 11 pounds? No one is going to carry one of those around. My entire backpacking setup without food and water is 12 pounds. That's not a casual amount of weight to carry in addition to a diaper bag and purse and a baby. It's not going to cause people to carry the child seat with them. And the 40 second inflate time + installation isn't going to make it any more convenient to switch between cars. The only demographic this could serve is people who want to keep a carseat in the car but only use it occasionally and don't like the space it takes... like maybe grandmothers?

Beyond that it doesn't matter because it will NEVER get the regulatory OK in the US.


Um, to get regulatory approval they just have to put it through the normal tests. It being inflatable isn't an instant fail.
 
2014-04-14 05:05:38 PM

That Guy Jeff: Weighs 11 pounds? No one is going to carry one of those around. My entire backpacking setup without food and water is 12 pounds. That's not a casual amount of weight to carry in addition to a diaper bag and purse and a baby. It's not going to cause people to carry the child seat with them. And the 40 second inflate time + installation isn't going to make it any more convenient to switch between cars. The only demographic this could serve is people who want to keep a carseat in the car but only use it occasionally and don't like the space it takes... like maybe grandmothers?

Beyond that it doesn't matter because it will NEVER get the regulatory OK in the US.


Did you even read the article?  I'd love to have a front-facing version of  these for my kids for when we travel by plane, for the rental car.
 
2014-04-14 05:06:36 PM

namegoeshere: Why doesn't anyone make integrated car seats anymore? They were great.


Yes, Volvo does (well, boosters), and they are awesome.

That Guy Jeff: Weighs 11 pounds? No one is going to carry one of those around. My entire backpacking setup without food and water is 12 pounds. That's not a casual amount of weight to carry in addition to a diaper bag and purse and a baby. It's not going to cause people to carry the child seat with them. And the 40 second inflate time + installation isn't going to make it any more convenient to switch between cars. The only demographic this could serve is people who want to keep a carseat in the car but only use it occasionally and don't like the space it takes... like maybe grandmothers?

Beyond that it doesn't matter because it will NEVER get the regulatory OK in the US.


To move it between cars, you don't deflate it. It's going to be a LOT easier to move at 11 lbs, and without ridged edges when you're bouncing it around in a crowded garage.

Why would they have cause to carry a child seat with them? In TFA, they mention that this makes it easier to bring on a plane, and it will, regardless of your back-country tendencies. Flying with a baby is a stress, and this invention will make a big difference for these traveling families.

Pray tell, how do you know that it will "NEVER" get the regulatory regulatory OK in the US? If it passes the tests, it gets the stamp. It will likely be more ridged than many of the Wal-Mart seats out there now.

Chuck Wagon: What is with the wireless logo? Is that supposed to mean its battery powered or that for some stupid reason it hooks up to wifi?


If the pump is malfunctioning, and the pressure is low, it can let the Volvo know, so the driver sees a message. Do you use cars?
 
2014-04-14 05:10:48 PM
We used to use these for airline trips on vacation.  Actually worked pretty good.

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2014-04-14 05:14:17 PM

waterrockets: Chuck Wagon: What is with the wireless logo? Is that supposed to mean its battery powered or that for some stupid reason it hooks up to wifi?


If the pump is malfunctioning, and the pressure is low, it can let the Volvo know, so the driver sees a message. Do you use cars?



That seems stupidly complicated. If the pump is broken, have it sound an alarm.
 
2014-04-14 05:21:28 PM

Chuck Wagon: waterrockets: Chuck Wagon: What is with the wireless logo? Is that supposed to mean its battery powered or that for some stupid reason it hooks up to wifi?


If the pump is malfunctioning, and the pressure is low, it can let the Volvo know, so the driver sees a message. Do you use cars?


That seems stupidly complicated. If the pump is broken, have it sound an alarm.


Sound an alarm when? If it's all the time (until dismissed/acknowledged), then it's going to run down its battery or the car's battery (assuming it has an option to plug in?). That's certainly an option, but the BOM on a wifi chipset is less than $2.

Besides, after assembling a crib, most dads will be all set for other complicated setup around the house.
 
2014-04-14 05:34:15 PM

namegoeshere: Why doesn't anyone make integrated car seats anymore? They were great.


Volvo still offers them, actually.
 
2014-04-14 05:46:28 PM
Does it come with an ejection button?
 
2014-04-14 06:06:34 PM

Greek: namegoeshere: Why doesn't anyone make integrated car seats anymore? They were great.

Volvo still offers them, actually.


If I ran the zoo, they'd be standard. Nobody listens to me, though. : (
 
2014-04-14 06:11:21 PM
Inflatable child seats existed before this and for what it is it doesn't exactly pack down into significantly less space.
 
2014-04-14 06:17:31 PM
Inflate it with hydrogen.

"Parent loses grip! Child seen floating in car seat at 11000 ft!"
"Police shoot down and kill child in flying car seat! 'He was coming right at us!', 'He had a gun shaped rattle!" , say police!
 
2014-04-14 07:34:50 PM
which is just a concept for the moment

which is just a concept for the moment

which is just a concept for the moment
 
2014-04-14 08:48:47 PM

mr_fulano: which is just a concept for the moment

which is just a concept for the moment

which is just a concept for the moment


This was.
 
2014-04-14 10:05:05 PM
We bought an inflatable car seat for a plane trip to Miami 20 years ago.  It worked fine until it sprang a leak almost immediately.  Pump had to run continuously for it to stay up.  We got our money back.

A better working version would get my money these days, if I had children the right age.  Perfect for travel!
 
2014-04-14 10:55:48 PM
Let me guess, all the "it won't work" comments are from single childless Farkers and the more positive notes come from parents...

A child changes your outlook on many things
 
2014-04-15 10:19:21 AM
I totally believe this works.

Mainly because I know that:

1) The safety requirements for child car seats have not been upgraded in a very long time.

2)  Modern safety belts and seats HAVE been upgraded fairly consistently.

3) At least one study claimed that if you write 'car seat' on a standard piece of paper, put it under the 5 year old sized child dummy in a modern car with modern safety belt, then your 'car seat' will now successfully pass the legally required tests for car seats.

So I totally believe that an inflatable one will work.
 
2014-04-15 10:39:45 AM
So who do you sue when it pops during a crash, the straps go slack and your kid rockets into the back of your head.
 
2014-04-15 11:06:23 AM

TheOriginalEd: So who do you sue when it pops during a crash, the straps go slack and your kid rockets into the back of your head.


Who are you, CNN? Way to extrapolate and bank on fear with no foundation.

PVC boat fabric has the same tensile strength as the ICP plastic used in most children's car seats, and there should be no problem engineering 10 lbs of this stuff to withstand the forces and impacts in a highway crash with a baby in tow. If you're talking about a foreign object puncture, well it's just as likely that the baby will be punctured as well, but the fabric is much tougher against a sharp edge. A puncture big enough for rapid deflation is going to be a serious accident with a car seat in the center of the vehicle where it belongs. I'd be interested in any actual scenarios where an infant crash test dummy didn't receive fatal injury forces b/c of an ICP seat but did with an approved PVC inflatable.
 
2014-04-15 12:09:15 PM

eurotrash: Let me guess, all the "it won't work" comments are from single childless Farkers and the more positive notes come from parents...

A child changes your outlook on many things


As a parent of a 20-month-old, this post is relevant to my interests.  However, from the pictures, it looks like it's still about 60% of its inflated size when in the backpack, and unlike carrier seats, it's completely useless outside of the car.  I can see this as useful for flying and very occasional use by aunts, uncles and grandparents who have lots of money, but not really for us day to day car seat users.
 
2014-04-15 12:55:07 PM
Deflatable children that would be stuffed into the glovebox for the trip would be better.
 
2014-04-15 01:16:22 PM

Sir_Farkalot: eurotrash: Let me guess, all the "it won't work" comments are from single childless Farkers and the more positive notes come from parents...

A child changes your outlook on many things

As a parent of a 20-month-old, this post is relevant to my interests.  However, from the pictures, it looks like it's still about 60% of its inflated size when in the backpack, and unlike carrier seats, it's completely useless outside of the car.  I can see this as useful for flying and very occasional use by aunts, uncles and grandparents who have lots of money, but not really for us day to day car seat users.


Maybe 60% height, but about 50% width, and 25% of the depth. Measured volume would be much less than 60% of original.

That's neither here nor there though. The point is how big the pack is compared to other rear-facing seats. You don't need to check it as luggage if you're not using it on the plane. If you are using it on a plane, deflating for use in the plane would still be easier for the parents during boarding, and especially so for a mother traveling alone with the baby. Just inflate in place. Deflate when you arrive, then reinflate in the rental or in Grandma's car.
 
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