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(SpaceX)   While NASA and the Russians continue to squabble over their space programs, SpaceX is ready to launch another resupply mission to the ISS. Launch window is set for 4:58pm EDT today   (spacex.com) divider line 45
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2014-04-14 12:10:06 PM  
Sweeeeeet. Love me some live stream rocket ship goodness!
 
2014-04-14 01:30:55 PM  
I'm still jonsing for the Falcon Heavy launch (I might be able to be on-site for the test) and for the first time they try a manned capsule launch to the ISS (which will basically mean that Russia's out of a contract).

It'll be interesting to see if they can actually "land" the first stage in a controlled descent.
 
2014-04-14 02:13:00 PM  
Anyone know where good viewing is. I don't even know nor does the link say where its being launched from?
 
2014-04-14 02:15:40 PM  

obenchainr: I'm still jonsing for the Falcon Heavy launch (I might be able to be on-site for the test) and for the first time they try a manned capsule launch to the ISS (which will basically mean that Russia's out of a contract).

It'll be interesting to see if they can actually "land" the first stage in a controlled descent.




Russia should never have had a contract.
It was born of politics, it will continue to live because of politics, and even dirt cheap flights from the US won't kill it. They'll sooner shelf every running program than mess with that deal.
Short of a shooting war, NASA will continue dumping money on soyuz and Russia will allow it.

/NASAs return to flight has been put off till the twenty twenties.
/just watch them screw up the Spacex deal. It's going to happen.
 
2014-04-14 02:18:19 PM  

MindStalker: Anyone know where good viewing is. I don't even know nor does the link say where its being launched from?


Pad 40 at KSC. I'm planning to view the live stream because I'm in MN, but I'd love to be somewhere you could watch in person.
 
2014-04-14 02:24:12 PM  

SewerSquirrels: MindStalker: Anyone know where good viewing is. I don't even know nor does the link say where its being launched from?

Pad 40 at KSC. I'm planning to view the live stream because I'm in MN, but I'd love to be somewhere you could watch in person.


Kerbal Space Centre has that many pads?
 
2014-04-14 02:24:38 PM  

way south: Russia should never have had a contract.


I really can't see why not. Had we kept throwing away money on maintaining our old shuttle fleet our projected date for replacement would be even farther out. Unless congress starts raining money on NASA (which they might do with the cold war heating up again) it was their only budgetary solution.
 
2014-04-14 02:28:27 PM  

way south: Russia should never have had a contract.
It was born of politics, it will continue to live because of politics, and even dirt cheap flights from the US won't kill it. They'll sooner shelf every running program than mess with that deal.
Short of a shooting war, NASA will continue dumping money on soyuz and Russia will allow it.

/NASAs return to flight has been put off till the twenty twenties.
/just watch them screw up the Spacex deal. It's going to happen.


Um no. It was born of pragmatism. We had no other way of getting our astronauts to the ISS and the shuttle (which was a design that needed to be retired) was considerably more expensive than even the Russians were extorting us for per seat. That and congress was not willing to give NASA the coin to build their own crew lifter.

It was a contract born out of necessity & it will die the moment that necessity is gone.
 
2014-04-14 02:36:54 PM  

the_sidewinder: SewerSquirrels:Pad 40 at KSC. I'm planning to view the live stream because I'm in MN, but I'd love to be somewhere you could watch in person.

Kerbal Space Centre has that many pads?


Nope, just the one (and 39 smoldering craters).
 
2014-04-14 02:53:19 PM  

the_sidewinder: SewerSquirrels: MindStalker: Anyone know where good viewing is. I don't even know nor does the link say where its being launched from?

Pad 40 at KSC. I'm planning to view the live stream because I'm in MN, but I'd love to be somewhere you could watch in person.

Kerbal Space Centre has that many pads?


One for each of Cpl.D's booster stages.
 
2014-04-14 03:03:48 PM  

obenchainr: It'll be interesting to see if they can actually "land" the first stage in a controlled descent.


Well, if today goes well, they'll do a controlled descent into the ocean; hopefully with the legs extended. If they recover an intact first stage at all, that'll be a huge step closer to re-useability; landing on land would just be icing on the cake. I mean, they don't strictly need to load it with more fuel just so it can fly back to land, but there are more than a few benefits to not having the whole assembly get a salt water bath. I'll definitely be a bit less productive at work today.
 
2014-04-14 03:06:25 PM  
A launch window is a gap between two times when a spacecraft can be launched, not a single moment in time, subby.
 
2014-04-14 03:10:04 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: A launch window is a gap between two times when a spacecraft can be launched, not a single moment in time, subby.


Isn't a minute a window of 60 seconds?

/not subby
//not curr
 
2014-04-14 03:12:18 PM  

SewerSquirrels: way south: Russia should never have had a contract.
It was born of politics, it will continue to live because of politics, and even dirt cheap flights from the US won't kill it. They'll sooner shelf every running program than mess with that deal.
Short of a shooting war, NASA will continue dumping money on soyuz and Russia will allow it.

/NASAs return to flight has been put off till the twenty twenties.
/just watch them screw up the Spacex deal. It's going to happen.

Um no. It was born of pragmatism. We had no other way of getting our astronauts to the ISS and the shuttle (which was a design that needed to be retired) was considerably more expensive than even the Russians were extorting us for per seat. That and congress was not willing to give NASA the coin to build their own crew lifter.

It was a contract born out of necessity & it will die the moment that necessity is gone.


A necessity created by politics never disappears.  Not without something drastic happening in the mean time.

The shuttle program never achieved its initial goal of cheap and/or regular access to space, thereby outliving the meaning of its existence for every day of its thirty years.   It continued because of politics.  Its replacements were cancelled (or proposed and never funded, same difference) due to politics.
We damn well knew we had to build better spacecraft, and we knew that NASA needed a new direction, but a constant shift in political demands is what's lead to us no longer having a ship or plan of our own making.

Its not for want of money or talent, just a pure lack of direction on what to do with the high frontier that's been enabling corrupt bureaucrats to fill the void with cost-plus contracts.

...And now they've found something space is good for: Half assed political outreach.
NASA has always been a political tool instead of a scientific one, and right now its needed to keep up the appearance of goodwill between nations.
Letting money fall into a hopeless void of big rocket development and retreating deadlines, while sending men to orbit with Russian assistance, is great politics.


Everyone wins.

/Well, everyone except those of us who expected we'd be going places and doing things.
 
2014-04-14 03:16:25 PM  
WOOOOT...  1 HOUR PEOPLE... 1 HOUR!!!!!

I repeat:

WOOOOOT!
 
2014-04-14 03:20:13 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: A launch window is a gap between two times when a spacecraft can be launched, not a single moment in time, subby.


True. Perhaps subby should have gone for the common "launch peep hole" or the ubiquitous "launch glory hole" instead of "launch window". If you don't launch at the right moment, your never going to get off.
 
2014-04-14 03:20:53 PM  
Now if they lose the capsule CNN might talk about it, otherwise is NASA TV showing the launch?
 
2014-04-14 03:24:06 PM  
Keep going.
Keep doing it good.

The more you do it...the more they'll use it.

Then, we'll be ready for blast-off without the friggin' govt interfering.
 
2014-04-14 03:26:58 PM  
NASA might not show it. It makes SpaceX look good and NASA bad.
 
2014-04-14 03:29:35 PM  

Maul555: WOOOOT...  1 HOUR PEOPLE... 1 HOUR!!!!!

I repeat:

WOOOOOT!


What the heck time zone do you live in?? Twilight? Launch isn't for another 1 1/2 hours.
 
2014-04-14 03:32:51 PM  
They're sending up the M16s and a china lake in case shiat gets real.
 
2014-04-14 03:40:12 PM  

Flt209er: Well, if today goes well, they'll do a controlled descent into the ocean; hopefully with the legs extended. If they recover an intact first stage at all, that'll be a huge step closer to re-useability; landing on land would just be icing on the cake. I mean, they don't strictly need to load it with more fuel just so it can fly back to land, but there are more than a few benefits to not having the whole assembly get a salt water bath. I'll definitely be a bit less productive at work today.


Their eventual goal is to be able to have two launches within 24 hours (IIRC) with the same equipment.  To that end, a salt-water bath is a little counter-productive :)

Either way, it's fun watching big things go *woosh* in controlled ways.
 
2014-04-14 03:55:52 PM  
And it just got scrubbed.
 
2014-04-14 03:58:58 PM  
The Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon spacecraft are targeted to launch on April 14 at 4:58 pm EDT from SpaceX's Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. Watch here LIVE beginning at 4:20 pm EDT!

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-14 03:59:14 PM  

overlord_mike: And it just got scrubbed.


Doh! Helium leak :/
 
2014-04-14 04:00:14 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Helium leak


They need to learn how to tie better knots in the balloons.
 
2014-04-14 04:09:22 PM  

markie_farkie: ReverendJynxed: Helium leak

They need to learn how to tie better knots in the balloons.


As if there's not enough Helium already floating about in space. What a bunch of nancies.
 
2014-04-14 04:11:05 PM  
 

way south: Everyone wins.

/Well, everyone except those of us who expected we'd be going places and doing things.


I'd agree with some of that, but political out reach isn't as motivating as political self preservation. That $70 million per Soyuz seat isn't going to any congress critters voting district. SpaceX employs people in Hawthorn, CA, Cape Canaveral, FL, Vandenberg AFB, CA, Stennis, MS, McGregor, TX, not to mention D.C. (and probably soon to be Brownsville, TX). They have suppliers in 47 states according to their website. What's more politically motivating than that?

SpaceX (and COTS) has shot a giant hole in the cost+ paradigm in terms of launch vehicles and spacecraft. JWST should be the final nail in the cost+ coffin, although I doubt it will be considering that no one seems to be paying attention.

Currently SpaceX needs NASA, but at some point NASA will just be another customer & not a very significant one considering their ever shrinking budget.
 
2014-04-14 04:22:53 PM  

obenchainr: Their eventual goal is to be able to have two launches within 24 hours (IIRC) with the same equipment. To that end, a salt-water bath is a little counter-productive :)


Very. 24 hour turnaround, even for just the first stage, is pretty ambitious. I'll still keep my fingers crossed for them, though. Hopefully my doc appointment on Friday won't cause me to miss the launch.
 
2014-04-14 04:23:08 PM  
Well this is disappointing although we should be used to it now.

CRS-3 delayed from April 6, Sept. 30, Nov. 11, Dec. 9, Jan. 15, Feb. 11, Feb. 22, March 1, March 16, March 30 & April 14. I for one can't hold my breath for over a year.
 
2014-04-14 04:34:31 PM  
way south:/NASAs return to flight has been put off till the twenty twenties.
/just watch them screw up the Spacex deal. It's going to happen.


If you were an American company that wanted to get a hold of NASA's assets and to practically seize the technology and access to space from the government, you would also lobby for the feds to give Russia a contract. It is guaranteed to fail, and you could bring your corporate solution to the fore. The public would think you were showing tehcnological and scientific advancement, rather than theft through a shell game at their expense. Also, the moon landing was faked. Grassy knoll.
 
2014-04-14 04:35:40 PM  

SewerSquirrels: Maul555: WOOOOT...  1 HOUR PEOPLE... 1 HOUR!!!!!

I repeat:

WOOOOOT!

What the heck time zone do you live in?? Twilight? Launch isn't for another 1 1/2 hours.


it was the countdown to the broadcast
 
2014-04-14 04:50:01 PM  
Bennie Crabtree:  Also, the moon landing was faked. Grassy knoll.

The moon landing was faked on the grassy knoll? Of Course!! Everybody was off looking for John Hinkley Jr. (who was off looking for Jodie Foster presumably). Nobody would have noticed! It's perfect.

That shell game stuff is just crazy talk though. You really should get back on your meds. They help me sleep at night.
 
2014-04-14 05:40:28 PM  

SewerSquirrels: Bennie Crabtree:  Also, the moon landing was faked. Grassy knoll.

The moon landing was faked on the grassy knoll? Of Course!! Everybody was off looking for John Hinkley Jr. (who was off looking for Jodie Foster presumably). Nobody would have noticed! It's perfect.

That shell game stuff is just crazy talk though. You really should get back on your meds. They help me sleep at night.


I once bought a pipe at the glass knoll in austin tx... true story...

/still have it 11 years later
 
2014-04-14 05:41:04 PM  
***glassy* knoll

/preview is my friend
 
2014-04-14 06:42:18 PM  
Won't mean a damn lick of a difference if the ISS can't get that computer back online.
 
2014-04-14 06:45:04 PM  
I must applaud the mods for posting a link to a live event before it happened, instead of after. Too bad it didn't happen. The live stream, I mean. The launch was beautiful. Too bad you guys missed it!
 
2014-04-14 08:20:02 PM  

vharshyde: Won't mean a damn lick of a difference if the ISS can't get that computer back online.


If you mean the backup MDM that has failed, a backup computer does make a damn lick of difference on the ISS, but not enough to make or break the CRS-3 mission. Turns out that backup computers aren't considered critical.
 
2014-04-14 08:52:53 PM  
Silly rabbits, SpaceX never launches on the first try.
 
2014-04-14 10:56:15 PM  

Drunk Astronaut: Silly rabbits, SpaceX never launches on the first try.


Delays are preferred to catastrophic failures for SpaceX and their launch partners (and their insurance companies).
 
2014-04-14 11:25:34 PM  
So...

i.imgur.com

Kerbal thread?
 
2014-04-14 11:35:40 PM  
Lemme see if I got this right....

War breaks out in Crimea. NASA collects a bunch of ragged misfits, maybe a gas fitter, a clown and a librarian (ultra hot - I'm thinking Jessica something)...the band of brothers and Uncle Sam reveal a "secret space shuttle", the possibly psychotic leader manages a latch on the ISS and we take it down....
 
2014-04-15 12:06:13 AM  

Cpl.D: So...

[i.imgur.com image 640x400]

Kerbal thread?


No. Save it until next week, or next month. I'd prefer my mind being blown all at once seeing you play with the new XL rockets then have it slowly and painfully decay through slow exposure to your ships' epicness, and your monuments to what I yearn to do but cannot.

/actually, you probably already use larger parts through mods. still...
 
2014-04-15 12:21:42 AM  
New Farkin User Name:/actually, you probably already use larger parts through mods. still...

Only mods I've ever used were kethane and engineer.  None currently.  Just stock.
 
2014-04-15 06:28:12 PM  

Cpl.D: New Farkin User Name:/actually, you probably already use larger parts through mods. still...

Only mods I've ever used were kethane and engineer.  None currently.  Just stock.


I just went for FAR. Suddenly, the atmosphere is a quick thing to deal with for a very short time and I can focus on making my rockets look and fly more awesome. It is nice to do away with the slow ride to 10k meters before I can really punch it.
 
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