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(MMGM)   The Great Atari Landfill Expedition, intended to dig up thousands of copies of the worst video game ever made, will begin on April 26. This would be a good time to leave New Mexico. Actually, it's always a good time to leave New Mexico   (mmgn.com) divider line 51
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2014-04-14 10:26:55 AM  
5 votes:
I'm driving over there right now.


i.imgur.com
2014-04-14 10:07:52 AM  
4 votes:

HypnozombieX: I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.


You never played Adventure?

upload.wikimedia.org
2014-04-14 09:57:13 AM  
4 votes:
The fewer people like subby in NM, the better.

www.naturephotoworks.com
2014-04-14 09:50:37 AM  
4 votes:
You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.
2014-04-14 08:08:21 AM  
4 votes:
Sometimes... dead is better.
2014-04-14 11:39:12 AM  
3 votes:
Little CSB-

When I was younger, I played the ET game a bit as it was one of the games that was handy.  At one point, I did something and instead of the flower coming back to life, it turned into a Yar from Yar's Revenge and flew off the screen.  I was mystified.  I could never replicate it no matter how hard I tried (I was about 10 at the time).  After years of consideration, I figured I just imagined it.  Every once in a while when the internet would mention this game, I would do a search, but to no avail.  It became a phantom of my childhood.  Until about 8 months ago.

Turns out that was an easter egg in the game that no one ever reported on and there were instructions of how to make it happen again.

I feel like that chapter of my life can close now.
2014-04-14 10:38:06 AM  
3 votes:
Everyone hates ET, but then there's this guy, who learned how to hack Atari code and then tried to fix the gameplay problems as a challenge.
2014-04-14 10:16:52 AM  
3 votes:
www.yellowecho.com
2014-04-14 08:59:20 AM  
3 votes:
Are there any copies of Custer's Revenge buried there?
2014-04-14 08:37:24 AM  
3 votes:
They're digging in the wrong place!

24.media.tumblr.com
2014-04-14 12:33:03 PM  
2 votes:

Kinetic King: Gotta admit that the best. game. ever. for me was the Roller Coaster Tycoon series.  I actually won $3985 in contest money designing a coaster for RCT3.  Right now, the only game I really play anymore is the Platinum Edition of RCT3 which makes up for the glitches in the first version of RCT3 and is easily the apotheosis of the RCT series.  It's nearly a decade old, but still kicks the heck out of Farmville.

That won't be for long; I just ordered the complete Civilization IV package (with the 3 add-ons) off of Amazon and should be getting it around the time I return from Germany.  The only thing that sucks about the Civ series is that they kick my ass on all but the easiest settings, but the mind-blowing depth of the game keeps luring me back.

The SimCity series, up until the disastrous release of Sim V, was also a big favorite of mine.  I also loved SSG's Warlords series and wish they would work on a Vista machine.  Finally, it's a good thing I didn't discover Minecraft until too late or else I'd probably be addicted to it...


My favorite game of all time:

cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com

In my opinion it was amazing, for it's time.
2014-04-14 11:35:40 AM  
2 votes:

kling_klang_bed: *squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.


TAKE THAT BACK!!!

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
2014-04-14 11:11:17 AM  
2 votes:
There's also the fixed version of ET, which solves the pixel perfect collision detection as well as a host of other issues:

http://www.neocomputer.org/projects/et/
2014-04-14 10:00:27 AM  
2 votes:

jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.


Well when the normal development time for games back then was 6-8 months and you ask for the game to be completed in 45 days, you're gonna have some issues
2014-04-14 09:59:22 AM  
2 votes:
Eddie Torres?
2014-04-14 09:58:34 AM  
2 votes:
Fuel Entertainment needs visibility, Lightbox is a partner with a game to hawk, the "film crew" includes one of the guys who wrote on X-Men 2, they're taking archeologists along (for a modern landfill loaded with what can only be considered trash) -- all this to dig up plastic cartridges of zero value containing a "game" who's ROM has been available on the net for years.

Pass. Watching people play in a landfill doesn't sound like a good time. Corporate-branding festival.
2014-04-14 09:54:40 AM  
2 votes:

jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.


I remember playing it as a little kid on my folks' 2600, and even as a little kid I knew it was bad. A few years ago I ran across an emulator and decided to give it a whirl to see if the first time I played it was just a fluke, maybe my little kid reflexes and problem solving was bad. Turns out, I was a fairly astute kid and the game was just that horrible.
2014-04-14 09:44:45 PM  
1 votes:

MylesHeartVodak: No, Raiders of the Lost Ark was simply Haunted House with different sprites.


?
www.theultimategamer.com
www.mobygames.com

Seems legit.

Loan Starr: When I was in 5th grade in 1982 I got an Intellivision for Christmas (still probably the best gift I ever received) and I was the hit of the neighborhood. Space Battle, Space Armada, Astro Smash, Utopia, Night Stalker, Micro Surgeon, Armor Battle, Pitfall, you name it. I loved those games. Then in 1984 my friend got a Coleco Vision and we all sat around playing Pole Position nonstop and forgot about the previous consoles.


Pole Position was never released for Colecovision.  The Intellivsion nor the Coleco ever replaced the 2600 because they never had wide adoption.  Intellivsion sold 3 million consoles, Coleco 2.  2600?  30 million.
2014-04-14 07:38:35 PM  
1 votes:

yukichigai: sendtodave: FatherChaos: [s3.amazonaws.com image 200x200]

In the author's case, "the worst game I've ever played, so it only applies to my opinion and is not a universal standard"

E.T. was bad, but there are worse.  MUCH worse.

No, the author is stating fact.  It is literally the worst game ever.

Your opinion doesn't change the fact of the matter.

http://www.somethingawful.com/game-reviews/

Even a casual glance through that list brings out several which are astronomically worse than E.T., completely lacking plot, gameplay, win conditions, on and on and on.


I am going to repeat what I said again, because it is WHY E.T. and Pac Man get mentioned in this way.....

What makes E.T. (and the 2600 Pac Man) get some of the brunt of being the "Worst Ever" is not that they were the absolute "worst", but, they had EXTREMELY high expectations and debuts, and were tied to the biggest movie of all time at the time, and the biggest arcade game at the time.

Yeah, a bunch of 3rd rate developers put out much crappier games than E.T. and Pac Man... but, not many people bought them, and they didn't get that much attention at the time.   E.T. and Pac Man had HUGE spotlights on their debut's, and they did not deliver on the hype of the releases.  Which was proven by Ms. Pac Man for 2600.... if that had been the Pac Man release (minus the Ms Pac additions), that would have been a much better reception.   E.T.'s issues was mostly gameplay issues with how it was coded, vs. the overly crude display issues with Pac Man.

As far as comparing it to "worst games of 2007", that is hard to even compare.... and nobody is really trying to compare them.   E.T. and Pac Man were just really bad "major" releases of the early 80s, that led to what is termed the "Video Game Crash of 1983", and they are fairly reflected in that way in video game history.   Just like anything, putting "Worst video game ever game" on something is going to be subjective, just like "Best baseball player" ever, or "Worst movie ever".
2014-04-14 04:43:43 PM  
1 votes:

gweilo8888: Kinetic King: Would you believe I spend more time appearing on TV than watching it?  This is Minuta Slavy, the Russian version of America's Got Talent...

[www.lunatim.com image 850x637]

Would you believe you just went down even further in my estimation for having anything to do with the creation of the vapid drivel that is "reality" TV in any country?

/"talent", indeed


Would you believe that I gave a TED talk last year, helped create a game--Stick Storm--that was sold in stores across Europe and America, and don't really give three hoots about what you think of reality TV or my career?  I did nothing to provoke you into making the personal attacks you've made on me--you're not suffering from 'genius envy'* are you?

*Forgive me, Sigmund Freud.

And for you more positive folks out there, here's another geeky thing I do when I'm not making stick bombs, watching old Buster Keaton comedies, dating the women in my artists' co-op, or playing on the local underwater hockey team (it's co-ed, BTW).  Yes, I create mazes.  Enjoy!

www.lunatim.com
2014-04-14 03:15:40 PM  
1 votes:

gweilo8888: Kinetic King: No, it's just that I probably don't waste as much time on Fark or watching TV as you do.

Whatever you'd like us to believe.


Would you believe I spend more time appearing on TV than watching it?  This is Minuta Slavy, the Russian version of America's Got Talent...

www.lunatim.com
2014-04-14 12:40:37 PM  
1 votes:
When I was a kid I lived next door to Ed Rotberg for awhile. He was one of the Atari coin op guys, pretty instrumental player. Wrote most of Battlezone, which was an amazing game for the time period, he had the arcade version in his study.

http://www.dadgum.com/halcyon/BOOK/ROTBERG.HTM

He was a pretty cool guy, huge Cubs fan. He got me interested in gaming and in computer. I am a Unix Sysadmin today. I wish I had known then what I know now, would have spent more time chatting him up and less asking how to make a ninja in Wizardry on his Macintosh.
2014-04-14 12:39:59 PM  
1 votes:

SuperChuck: I don't understand how Pac Man can be a letdown. It's about as simple as a game can get. What was wrong with it?


Bad colors, flickery sprites, it looked nothing like the arcade game, and the noise PacMan made wasn't "wokka-wokka-wokka-woo-woo-woo", it was like someone was strumming a really big rubber band. Total fail from a look-n-feel standpoint.
2014-04-14 12:16:59 PM  
1 votes:

Burr: Yeah, good thing modern video game budgets are so small and sensible. Wouldn't want that whole crash to happen again....


If people ever managed to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors, crashes would still happen but they would be from external shocks not from hubris and overreach.
2014-04-14 11:45:18 AM  
1 votes:
Maybe they'll find the hidden dot and gold key

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2014-04-14 11:33:48 AM  
1 votes:

incrdbil: I played the heck out of Star Raiders, River Raid, and worked so darn hard to get that perfect Pitfall score, so I could take a picture of the screen and mail it in to Activision to be a part of the Pitfall Harry club.

Then I got my Commodore 64......


River Raid was one of the best games produced by a third party manufacturer back then.  We played the hell out of that game back in the summer of '85.  Of course, that was *after* we'd been playing ball and riding bikes outside all day.

Back then, video games were strictly to be played when it was too dark to be outside (or we didn't want to mess around in the dark); the weather outside was bad (snow, rain); or you were sick.  And those rules weren't laid down by the parents.
2014-04-14 11:23:46 AM  
1 votes:

Ghastly: Gary-L: TheDirtyNacho: Lately I've been learning a bit about programming the 2600 and other systems of that era like the NES, and it amazes me, given their primitive capabilities, that anyone could make a game from them, much less a good one.

All in all, it's all done with ones and zeroes.

Believe it or not I programmed a few demos for the Atari 2600 back in the day. It was a really neat machine to program for. 128 bytes of RAM, 4K ROM. You had to be really tight with your code. No video RAM so you programmed the video in real time scanline by scanline.

/wsync



There were some impressive pieces of hacking that went into those games.  I can't fault the programmers, IIRC the guy that wrote ET had about 2 weeks to do it.
2014-04-14 11:19:29 AM  
1 votes:

Gary-L: TheDirtyNacho: Lately I've been learning a bit about programming the 2600 and other systems of that era like the NES, and it amazes me, given their primitive capabilities, that anyone could make a game from them, much less a good one.

All in all, it's all done with ones and zeroes.


Believe it or not I programmed a few demos for the Atari 2600 back in the day. It was a really neat machine to program for. 128 bytes of RAM, 4K ROM. You had to be really tight with your code. No video RAM so you programmed the video in real time scanline by scanline.

/wsync
2014-04-14 11:18:07 AM  
1 votes:

NickelP: game dev:'umm... ok I guess. You want to send a crew to my office or you going to fly me to washington or what?'


From interviews it sounds like he's proud of what he was able to accomplish with the game given the extremely limited time given to create it.  No one really blames that guy since most of the issues, like time given for development, marketing, over production, etc, were entirely not his fault.  I'd bet he finds the whole thing amusing by this point and probably just as curious if the landfill even exists.
2014-04-14 11:11:27 AM  
1 votes:
Will Geraldo be there?
2014-04-14 11:06:00 AM  
1 votes:

sendtodave: FatherChaos: [s3.amazonaws.com image 200x200]

In the author's case, "the worst game I've ever played, so it only applies to my opinion and is not a universal standard"

E.T. was bad, but there are worse.  MUCH worse.

No, the author is stating fact.  It is literally the worst game ever.

Your opinion doesn't change the fact of the matter.


Seriously, the thing helped create the Video Game Crash of 1983. The only other game that really is credited to that? Pac-Man for the Atari 2600
2014-04-14 10:47:53 AM  
1 votes:

jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.


Sooo true.  It was the first video game I ever played that was a total, utter disappointment.  Christ it sucked.
2014-04-14 10:36:18 AM  
1 votes:

AxL sANe: Mmmmm - Green Chilis.

I'll always love Mew Mexico because they put green chilis on everything....

[www.nmgastronome.com image 444x261]


5 Star in Taos?
2014-04-14 10:30:35 AM  
1 votes:
The sad part will be when they dig down the cartridges & then cant climb back out of the pit.
2014-04-14 10:22:30 AM  
1 votes:
Mmmmm - Green Chilis.

I'll always love Mew Mexico because they put green chilis on everything....

www.nmgastronome.com
2014-04-14 10:16:36 AM  
1 votes:
Great, now we're gonna have to deal with thousands of copies of Superman for the Atari...
2014-04-14 10:16:06 AM  
1 votes:
IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.
2014-04-14 10:15:20 AM  
1 votes:

Caffeine Induced Diarrhea: First thought I had after reading the article was: why werent these things thrown in a chipper to be recycled?


Because it was 1982. Recycling anything basic (newspapers, cans) was barely even a thing in 1982. Recycling plastic cases with electronic components inside? That is only now catching on.

The other lesson, of course, is that gaming consoles and games actually used to be manufactured in the US. The reason they went to this landfill in the first place is because it wasn't far from the manufacturing plant in El Paso.
2014-04-14 10:14:08 AM  
1 votes:

gilatrout: The fewer people like subby in NM, the better.

[www.naturephotoworks.com image 300x210]


Thank you, it needed to be said.
2014-04-14 10:12:53 AM  
1 votes:
Subby's never had a soak in the Jemez, I take it.
2014-04-14 10:06:45 AM  
1 votes:
First thought I had after reading the article was: why werent these things thrown in a chipper to be recycled?
2014-04-14 10:01:12 AM  
1 votes:
 Ok, I don't know why people keep hating on the E.T. game. I don't remember it being that bad. In  fact I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.
2014-04-14 09:59:43 AM  
1 votes:
This is happening in the town I grew up in, and subby is absolutely right - great place to see in your rear view mirror.
2014-04-14 09:58:37 AM  
1 votes:

Noticeably F.A.T.: jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.

I remember playing it as a little kid on my folks' 2600, and even as a little kid I knew it was bad. A few years ago I ran across an emulator and decided to give it a whirl to see if the first time I played it was just a fluke, maybe my little kid reflexes and problem solving was bad. Turns out, I was a fairly astute kid and the game was just that horrible.


Agreed.  It was total crap then, but yet absolutely EVERYONE I knew owned it.  If you had a 2600 in the early 80s, you had this game.
2014-04-14 09:57:30 AM  
1 votes:
I didn't think the game was that bad. Once I figured out the symbols and goal, it was fun.
2014-04-14 09:53:43 AM  
1 votes:
I just looked this game up on eBay, looks like it sells for around $5 to $12 and they have not been buried in a landfill. I think it would be easier and less expensive for the people trying to dig these up, just bid on copies on eBay.
2014-04-14 09:51:48 AM  
1 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com

I know what you're thinking! Leave them buried! Sometimes dead is bettah!
2014-04-14 09:50:58 AM  
1 votes:
I am pretty sure I had the ET game back in the day. I don't remember it that well other than remembering that falling into the ditch and trying to get out was a gigantic pain.
2014-04-14 09:46:42 AM  
1 votes:
G reat
E xtra
T errestrial

B urial
E xcavation
N ews
T ournament

I prefer this acronym.
2014-04-14 09:36:29 AM  
1 votes:
4.images.gametrailers.com

Is this man leading the expedition?
2014-04-14 08:09:38 AM  
1 votes:
I fear they will unearth a great evil which will bring upon the apocalypse.
 
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