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(MMGM)   The Great Atari Landfill Expedition, intended to dig up thousands of copies of the worst video game ever made, will begin on April 26. This would be a good time to leave New Mexico. Actually, it's always a good time to leave New Mexico   (mmgn.com ) divider line
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2014-04-14 08:08:21 AM  
Sometimes... dead is better.
 
2014-04-14 08:09:38 AM  
I fear they will unearth a great evil which will bring upon the apocalypse.
 
2014-04-14 08:37:24 AM  
They're digging in the wrong place!

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-14 08:44:31 AM  

basemetal: I fear they will unearth a great evil which will bring upon the apocalypse.

G

reat Atari Landfill Expedition = GALE.

Expect extreme weather events when they open the portal to The Nether.
 
2014-04-14 08:59:20 AM  
Are there any copies of Custer's Revenge buried there?
 
2014-04-14 09:27:18 AM  
I miss New Mexico.
 
2014-04-14 09:36:29 AM  
4.images.gametrailers.com

Is this man leading the expedition?
 
2014-04-14 09:46:42 AM  
G reat
E xtra
T errestrial

B urial
E xcavation
N ews
T ournament

I prefer this acronym.
 
2014-04-14 09:49:08 AM  
Because of all the anal probes, amiright subby?
 
2014-04-14 09:49:47 AM  
I was so fired up for ET the video game.  I don't think we played it for more than an hour.  It sucked that bad.  Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.
 
2014-04-14 09:50:16 AM  
As this site is blocked at work, anyone care to share what this is about?
 
2014-04-14 09:50:37 AM  
You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.
 
2014-04-14 09:50:58 AM  
I am pretty sure I had the ET game back in the day. I don't remember it that well other than remembering that falling into the ditch and trying to get out was a gigantic pain.
 
2014-04-14 09:51:48 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

I know what you're thinking! Leave them buried! Sometimes dead is bettah!
 
2014-04-14 09:51:59 AM  

basemetal: I fear they will unearth a great evil which will bring upon the apocalypse.


E.T.?
 
2014-04-14 09:52:42 AM  

garandman1a: As this site is blocked at work, anyone care to share what this is about?


Some guys want to go to NM and dig up the landfill where Atari purportedly buried thousands of copies of the terrible 'E.T. the Extraterrestrial' game.
 
2014-04-14 09:53:16 AM  
*squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.
 
2014-04-14 09:53:43 AM  
I just looked this game up on eBay, looks like it sells for around $5 to $12 and they have not been buried in a landfill. I think it would be easier and less expensive for the people trying to dig these up, just bid on copies on eBay.
 
2014-04-14 09:54:30 AM  
Why? If you want the experience of playing the game, just smash your head into the wall at full speed until you can't anymore. You'll have the general idea.
 
2014-04-14 09:54:40 AM  

jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.


I remember playing it as a little kid on my folks' 2600, and even as a little kid I knew it was bad. A few years ago I ran across an emulator and decided to give it a whirl to see if the first time I played it was just a fluke, maybe my little kid reflexes and problem solving was bad. Turns out, I was a fairly astute kid and the game was just that horrible.
 
2014-04-14 09:54:56 AM  
I feel like playing Combat and bouncing some white shells off walls and killing your tank.
 
2014-04-14 09:56:55 AM  
ageeksblogdotcom1.files.wordpress.com
tread lightly
 
2014-04-14 09:57:13 AM  
The fewer people like subby in NM, the better.

www.naturephotoworks.com
 
2014-04-14 09:57:30 AM  
I didn't think the game was that bad. Once I figured out the symbols and goal, it was fun.
 
2014-04-14 09:58:12 AM  
As a former resident of Albuquerque... you're not missing much.
 
2014-04-14 09:58:34 AM  
Fuel Entertainment needs visibility, Lightbox is a partner with a game to hawk, the "film crew" includes one of the guys who wrote on X-Men 2, they're taking archeologists along (for a modern landfill loaded with what can only be considered trash) -- all this to dig up plastic cartridges of zero value containing a "game" who's ROM has been available on the net for years.

Pass. Watching people play in a landfill doesn't sound like a good time. Corporate-branding festival.
 
2014-04-14 09:58:37 AM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.

I remember playing it as a little kid on my folks' 2600, and even as a little kid I knew it was bad. A few years ago I ran across an emulator and decided to give it a whirl to see if the first time I played it was just a fluke, maybe my little kid reflexes and problem solving was bad. Turns out, I was a fairly astute kid and the game was just that horrible.


Agreed.  It was total crap then, but yet absolutely EVERYONE I knew owned it.  If you had a 2600 in the early 80s, you had this game.
 
2014-04-14 09:59:22 AM  
Eddie Torres?
 
2014-04-14 09:59:43 AM  
This is happening in the town I grew up in, and subby is absolutely right - great place to see in your rear view mirror.
 
2014-04-14 09:59:54 AM  

mechgreg: I am pretty sure I had the ET game back in the day. I don't remember it that well other than remembering that falling into the ditch and trying to get out was a gigantic pain.


The trick was to exit a pit towards the right, or left, or down. If you kept pushing up to exit the pit that way, you'd fall back in. Unfortunately, there was some timing involved. It didn't take much to miss the window.

/   ET was _not_ the worst game ever made. Extreme Paintbrawl and that crap big rig simulator from some years back still share that dishonor.
 
2014-04-14 10:00:27 AM  

jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.


Well when the normal development time for games back then was 6-8 months and you ask for the game to be completed in 45 days, you're gonna have some issues
 
2014-04-14 10:01:12 AM  
 Ok, I don't know why people keep hating on the E.T. game. I don't remember it being that bad. In  fact I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.
 
2014-04-14 10:01:30 AM  
So prediction:
This is what will cause the Zombie Apocalypse (or the Zombie Uprising/Revolution, if you prefer)
*or*
This is what will piss God off enough to smite us down.  Not gay marriage.  Not abortion.  Not Dancing with the Stars.  This.  This shiat right here.
 
2014-04-14 10:02:38 AM  
Careful not to dig up this guy:
d2nh4f9cbhlobh.cloudfront.net
 
2014-04-14 10:03:57 AM  
Rapmaster2000

I was so fired up for ET the video game. I don't think we played it for more than an hour. It sucked that bad. Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.


Pac-Man for Atari pissed me off, I was expecting something similar to well Pac-Man not what ever the hell they shipped. I actually beat E.T... don't really remember how but I did it.
 
2014-04-14 10:05:23 AM  

gilatrout: The fewer people like subby in NM, the better.


I have several friends that went to St. John's in Santa Fe. Based on everything they've told me, subby needs to troll smarter.
 
2014-04-14 10:06:45 AM  
First thought I had after reading the article was: why werent these things thrown in a chipper to be recycled?
 
2014-04-14 10:07:50 AM  
What's with all the hate for ET?  I loved that game.  I also loved the one where you used the round knob controllers, instead of the joystick, to bounce little clowns on a see-saw to jump up and hit a row of balloons across the top of the screen.  I can still remember the sound it made when bouncing and hitting the balloons.  And my brothers and I loved the Hide and Seek game, where one kid would leave the room while the other controlled a really crappy person-icon through a little house to hide.  I usually picked behind the sofa or under the bed.  That game rocked!
 
2014-04-14 10:07:52 AM  

HypnozombieX: I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.


You never played Adventure?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-14 10:08:06 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Rapmaster2000

I was so fired up for ET the video game. I don't think we played it for more than an hour. It sucked that bad. Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.


Pac-Man for Atari pissed me off, I was expecting something similar to well Pac-Man not what ever the hell they shipped. I actually beat E.T... don't really remember how but I did it.


With a baseball bat, if you had any sense.
 
2014-04-14 10:08:30 AM  
There were a lot of BAD 2600 games. It seemed like there for a while there were a dozen or so companies pumping out games.

I remember some game based on the Porky's movie that was just horrible...

ET was bad for sure but look at Atari Adventure? It's laughable now but back I when it first came out I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

/old
 
2014-04-14 10:09:48 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Rapmaster2000

I was so fired up for ET the video game. I don't think we played it for more than an hour. It sucked that bad. Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.


Pac-Man for Atari pissed me off, I was expecting something similar to well Pac-Man not what ever the hell they shipped. I actually beat E.T... don't really remember how but I did it.


Was it with a hammer or a baseball bat?
 
2014-04-14 10:09:49 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Rapmaster2000

I was so fired up for ET the video game. I don't think we played it for more than an hour. It sucked that bad. Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.


Pac-Man for Atari pissed me off, I was expecting something similar to well Pac-Man not what ever the hell they shipped. I actually beat E.T... don't really remember how but I did it.

Raiders of the Lost Ark

wasn't much better, and that was a highly anticipated game as well.
 
2014-04-14 10:10:03 AM  
Jesus, 5 follow-up headlines in a row. WTF
 
2014-04-14 10:10:58 AM  
www.themonolith.com
 
2014-04-14 10:12:36 AM  
My late friend, Emru Townsend wrote an article for PC World back in 2006 on this subject.   http://www.pcworld.com/article/127579/article.html?page=2

Worth a read.
 
2014-04-14 10:12:53 AM  
Subby's never had a soak in the Jemez, I take it.
 
2014-04-14 10:13:45 AM  

MilesTeg: There were a lot of BAD 2600 games. It seemed like there for a while there were a dozen or so companies pumping out games.

I remember some game based on the Porky's movie that was just horrible...

ET was bad for sure but look at Atari Adventure? It's laughable now but back I when it first came out I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

/old


Yeah, but how many other games were so bad they recalled all copies, dug a hole in the desert, put them in, set fire to them, capped the remains in concrete, had a Catholic priest, a Rabbi, a Muslim cleric, two Native American medicine men, and a Buddhist monk put a holy seal on it to keep the evil contained, back filled over the concrete, and then shot and killed everyone who knew of the location of the burial site?
 
2014-04-14 10:13:55 AM  

Sybarite: They're digging in the wrong place!

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x358]


it belongs in a museum.
 
2014-04-14 10:14:08 AM  

gilatrout: The fewer people like subby in NM, the better.

[www.naturephotoworks.com image 300x210]


Thank you, it needed to be said.
 
2014-04-14 10:14:14 AM  

kling_klang_bed: *squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.


True, but E.T. was one of the games that helped bring about the Video Game Crash of 1983. It was a terrible game that chose an even worse time to drop. Those two ingredients help vault it to the top of terrible video games.
 
2014-04-14 10:15:20 AM  

Caffeine Induced Diarrhea: First thought I had after reading the article was: why werent these things thrown in a chipper to be recycled?


Because it was 1982. Recycling anything basic (newspapers, cans) was barely even a thing in 1982. Recycling plastic cases with electronic components inside? That is only now catching on.

The other lesson, of course, is that gaming consoles and games actually used to be manufactured in the US. The reason they went to this landfill in the first place is because it wasn't far from the manufacturing plant in El Paso.
 
2014-04-14 10:15:43 AM  
Super Cool Story Bro 64 Time!: The largest part of my video game collection is my Atari 2600 game collection (29 games)...the problem? I don't own an Atari 2600!

Dimensio: [4.images.gametrailers.com image 320x180]

Is this man leading the expedition?


After seeing the trailer for the movie, I'm glad that I wasn't the only one who thought of that.
 
2014-04-14 10:16:06 AM  
IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.
 
2014-04-14 10:16:36 AM  
Great, now we're gonna have to deal with thousands of copies of Superman for the Atari...
 
2014-04-14 10:16:52 AM  
www.yellowecho.com
 
2014-04-14 10:17:37 AM  
In future news, group of video game nerds digging up old Atari E.T. games accidentally find Jimmy Hoffa. :P
 
2014-04-14 10:18:27 AM  

buzzcut73: Because it was 1982. Recycling anything basic (newspapers, cans) was barely even a thing in 1982. Recycling plastic cases with electronic components inside? That is only now catching on.

The other lesson, of course, is that gaming consoles and games actually used to be manufactured in the US. The reason they went to this landfill in the first place is because it wasn't far from the manufacturing plant in El Paso.


Well, there's also always been issues with recycling anything that's considered intellectual property.
 
2014-04-14 10:19:01 AM  

Solty Dog: I didn't think the game was that bad. Once I figured out the symbols and goal, it was fun.


Same here.  At least that was the opinion of 7-year old me.
 
2014-04-14 10:19:09 AM  

Atomic Jonb: IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.


It was impossible to win.
 
2014-04-14 10:19:37 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I was so fired up for ET the video game.  I don't think we played it for more than an hour.  It sucked that bad.  Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.


Me too.  I wanted desperately to like it.

I kept thinking that I was missing something, doing something wrong.  Then I realized the game just sucked that much.
 
2014-04-14 10:20:22 AM  
I guess I was easy to entertain as a little guy, but I must have played that game for hundreds of hours and enjoyed just about all of it. More than some of the more popular games at the time, even.
 
2014-04-14 10:20:23 AM  

Uzzah: HypnozombieX: I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.

You never played Adventure?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 480x3


Yeah, man.  I found that golden dot that lead to the hidden room way back in the day.  Also it was fun to get eaten by a dragon that was then picked up by the bat.  Good times.
 
2014-04-14 10:21:26 AM  
I never played ET, but if you make a list of really bad video games, the Gameboy port of Mortal Kombat needs to be on there. Glitchy, slow, and just sooooooo frustrating to try to play.
 
2014-04-14 10:21:53 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I was so fired up for ET the video game.  I don't think we played it for more than an hour.  It sucked that bad.  Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.


Isn't there another landfill somewhere with all the Pac-Man cartridges? If I remember right - by the time Pac-Man was about to hit shelves, they were already set to ship Ms. Pac-Man (which is a great 2600 game). So they did the same thing as ET - dumped all the secondary shipments instead of letting them go to retail.
 
2014-04-14 10:22:30 AM  
Mmmmm - Green Chilis.

I'll always love Mew Mexico because they put green chilis on everything....

www.nmgastronome.com
 
2014-04-14 10:24:25 AM  

MilesTeg: There were a lot of BAD 2600 games. It seemed like there for a while there were a dozen or so companies pumping out games.

I remember some game based on the Porky's movie that was just horrible...

ET was bad for sure but look at Atari Adventure? It's laughable now but back I when it first came out I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

/old


The two are hardly comparable.  Adventure did a number of things that were seen for the first time ever in video games, and while laughable compared to games 40 years later it was innovative at the time.  ET was just bad even by the standards of that day.  Not to mention that it nearly crippled the game industry at the time giving the consumer and retailer backlash to the overproduced piece of junk.
 
2014-04-14 10:24:34 AM  

UNC_Samurai: gilatrout: The fewer people like subby in NM, the better.

I have several friends that went to St. John's in Santa Fe. Based on everything they've told me, subby needs to troll smarter.


There are parts of NM (north-central, mostly) that are some of the most gorgeous places in the world.

There are also plenty of lousy places. Pretty much like anywhere else.

On the plus side, Albuquerque PD probably won't be shooting as many people going forward.
 
2014-04-14 10:25:54 AM  

clkeagle: Rapmaster2000: I was so fired up for ET the video game.  I don't think we played it for more than an hour.  It sucked that bad.  Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.

Isn't there another landfill somewhere with all the Pac-Man cartridges? If I remember right - by the time Pac-Man was about to hit shelves, they were already set to ship Ms. Pac-Man (which is a great 2600 game). So they did the same thing as ET - dumped all the secondary shipments instead of letting them go to retail.


If I remember correctly, Atari was so sure that Pacman was going to be a huge hit that they made more game cartridges than the number of consoles that existed to play them. Talk about hubris.
 
2014-04-14 10:26:12 AM  

buzzcut73: Caffeine Induced Diarrhea: First thought I had after reading the article was: why werent these things thrown in a chipper to be recycled?

Because it was 1982. Recycling anything basic (newspapers, cans) was barely even a thing in 1982. Recycling plastic cases with electronic components inside? That is only now catching on.

The other lesson, of course, is that gaming consoles and games actually used to be manufactured in the US. The reason they went to this landfill in the first place is because it wasn't far from the manufacturing plant in El Paso.


I dont get to say this much anymore, but thanks for making me feel young.

/born in '82
 
2014-04-14 10:26:55 AM  
I'm driving over there right now.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-14 10:28:04 AM  

BalugaJoe: Atomic Jonb: IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.

It was impossible to win.


Raiders?? I beat it.

It was, in fact, the first game I used a walkthrough for.
 
2014-04-14 10:28:57 AM  
If they find seven barrelfuls of cash, that'd be cool also.
 
2014-04-14 10:30:35 AM  
The sad part will be when they dig down the cartridges & then cant climb back out of the pit.
 
2014-04-14 10:30:39 AM  
Dig them.out of a landfill.... why? Do they expect them to still work?
 
2014-04-14 10:31:07 AM  

myrrh: UNC_Samurai: gilatrout: The fewer people like subby in NM, the better.

I have several friends that went to St. John's in Santa Fe. Based on everything they've told me, subby needs to troll smarter.

There are parts of NM (north-central, mostly) that are some of the most gorgeous places in the world.

There are also plenty of lousy places. Pretty much like anywhere else.

On the plus side, Albuquerque PD probably won't be shooting as many people going forward.


And if they do, there's a really good Witness Protection program in Albuquerque.
 
2014-04-14 10:31:09 AM  
I have a Game.con handheld game on the shelf in the closet.  Within that evil device is the worst game ever made: "Batman and Robin".

s.uvlist.net
oh.
oh.
oh.
eh.
oh.
 
2014-04-14 10:31:36 AM  
Why are they bothering to dig this up?   The cartriges are not particulary valuable, as danteman195  pointed out.

 Is the whole point to make a documentary movie about digging in a landfill for something with the dubious distinction of being the worst ever? Or is there something more nefarios going on?
 
2014-04-14 10:33:13 AM  
I think you could make a better documentary out of how 'E.T.' was the biggest thing in 1982 and now all we remember is a crappy Atari 2600 game and awkward pictures with Michael Jackson.
 
2014-04-14 10:33:25 AM  

Uzzah: HypnozombieX: I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.

You never played Adventure?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 480x315]


Sadly no.
Although it was circled in the catalog.
 
2014-04-14 10:34:38 AM  
I didn't own it and don't remember ever playing it. This was my game for a long time
i232.photobucket.com
and I was the by God master of it too.
 
2014-04-14 10:36:01 AM  
yves0010


Random Anonymous Blackmail: Rapmaster2000

I was so fired up for ET the video game. I don't think we played it for more than an hour. It sucked that bad. Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.


Pac-Man for Atari pissed me off, I was expecting something similar to well Pac-Man not what ever the hell they shipped. I actually beat E.T... don't really remember how but I did it.


Was it with a hammer or a baseball bat?


I was 8.. .I didn't know any better.
 
2014-04-14 10:36:18 AM  

AxL sANe: Mmmmm - Green Chilis.

I'll always love Mew Mexico because they put green chilis on everything....

[www.nmgastronome.com image 444x261]


5 Star in Taos?
 
2014-04-14 10:37:37 AM  
Too late.
sciencefiction.com
 
2014-04-14 10:38:06 AM  
Everyone hates ET, but then there's this guy, who learned how to hack Atari code and then tried to fix the gameplay problems as a challenge.
 
2014-04-14 10:38:17 AM  

Carousel Beast: BalugaJoe: Atomic Jonb: IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.

It was impossible to win.

Raiders?? I beat it.

It was, in fact, the first game I used a walkthrough for.



Yep.  Beat Raisers and E.T.
 
2014-04-14 10:38:40 AM  
i.crackedcdn.com

It's booting up!!!!
 
2014-04-14 10:38:50 AM  
You mad bro?

www.toplessrobot.com
 
2014-04-14 10:38:54 AM  

Dimensio: [4.images.gametrailers.com image 320x180]

Is this man leading the expedition?


I dunno, I hope so.  Its such a weird story with such a legend behind it, you'd think someone would make a movie about it!
 
2014-04-14 10:38:56 AM  
 
2014-04-14 10:39:06 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Why are they bothering to dig this up?   The cartriges are not particulary valuable, as danteman195  pointed out.


It's about seeing game history. It can be nicely woven with the Crash in the 1980s and how something can become infamous. It's interesting and ranks up there with finding a cheap Nintendo World Championship cart or Genesis version of Tetris.
 
2014-04-14 10:41:32 AM  
Why?
 
2014-04-14 10:42:57 AM  
s3.amazonaws.com

In the author's case, "the worst game I've ever played, so it only applies to my opinion and is not a universal standard"

E.T. was bad, but there are worse.  MUCH worse.
 
2014-04-14 10:43:07 AM  
ET and Raiders of the Lost Ark were not bad games. The adventure/RPG games of today are direct descendants. ET got a bad rap because it was rushed and was at the limits of what the 2600 could do. The games showing up in arcades were far beyond it.

I still have fond memories of playing and beating Raiders. Timing the parachute openings around that branch to get into the opening of the cliff was an actual accomplishment.
 
2014-04-14 10:43:59 AM  

theorellior: Everyone hates ET, but then there's this guy, who learned how to hack Atari code and then tried to fix the gameplay problems as a challenge.


Came here to say this.  There's just a few tweaks that make it the game it should have been.

Also, yes, Pac Man for the 2600 sucked terribly, but Ms. Pac Man on the 2600 more than made up for it and was a thing of wonder and beauty.
 
2014-04-14 10:44:30 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Why are they bothering to dig this up?   The cartriges are not particulary valuable, as danteman195  pointed out.

 Is the whole point to make a documentary movie about digging in a landfill for something with the dubious distinction of being the worst ever? Or is there something more nefarios going on?


To burn them a second time and then BURY THEM DEEPER.
 
2014-04-14 10:44:58 AM  

Sybarite: They're digging in the wrong place!

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x358]


That was a crappy game, too.
 
2014-04-14 10:45:04 AM  

FatherChaos: [s3.amazonaws.com image 200x200]

In the author's case, "the worst game I've ever played, so it only applies to my opinion and is not a universal standard"

E.T. was bad, but there are worse.  MUCH worse.


Historically, it's considered the worst game ever made. Sure, you can argue games like Superman 64 or Sonic 2006....but it's a solid pick that's been on the list for decades.
 
2014-04-14 10:45:43 AM  
well....
 
2014-04-14 10:46:59 AM  
Why? Terrible as it is it's available on emulator for free and who wants a broken game cartridge that's been buried in a landfill for 30 years?
 
2014-04-14 10:47:10 AM  
I'm pretty sure they somehow managed to make more copies of ET than there were Atari consoles in existence. That probably didn't help.
 
2014-04-14 10:47:53 AM  

jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.


Sooo true.  It was the first video game I ever played that was a total, utter disappointment.  Christ it sucked.
 
2014-04-14 10:50:36 AM  
Came for AVGN references, leaving satisifed.
 
2014-04-14 10:52:48 AM  
Subby's obviously never been to New Mexico. Really pretty landscapes you will not find anywhere else.
 
2014-04-14 10:53:50 AM  
I'd like to hear the phone call where they pitched this to the game developer.

ms: 'hey! We are working on this exciting project we hoped you would want to be involved with.'

game dev:'oh really? Well what is it'.

ms:'well we were sitting around talking about games and the topic of the worst game ever came up. It was really a short discussion, out of millions of crap games that abortion of code your queefed out in the 80's was the obvious pick. I mean just wow was that horrible. So we talked more and decided to do a documentary about it. We were hoping you'd let us film you and you could tell us a bit about just how you managed to make something so awful'.

game dev:'umm... ok I guess. You want to send a crew to my office or you going to fly me to washington or what?'

ms:'oh no. This is the best part. you remember how you guys farked up so hard on this that you had to bury thousands of carts in some crap hole landfill in the middle of the new mexico desert? We are going to dig those farkers up. Get some construction shoes and a shovel, maybe a mask too its probably pretty stinky there!'

game dev:'sigh'
 
2014-04-14 10:55:23 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Why are they bothering to dig this up?   The cartriges are not particulary valuable, as danteman195  pointed out.

 Is the whole point to make a documentary movie about digging in a landfill for something with the dubious distinction of being the worst ever? Or is there something more nefarios going on?


Well... the cartridges were just a front.

And when he had opened the seventh seal obsolete game cartridges, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
 
2014-04-14 10:55:36 AM  

Aar1012: Historically, it's considered the worst game ever made. Sure, you can argue games like Superman 64 or Sonic 2006....but it's a solid pick that's been on the list for decades.


And again...

No one has made a game that is was so bad they had to bury it in the desert, have the hole capped with concrete, and then have the site sealed and blessed by holy men from eight different faiths in order to seal away its evil for all of time.

We've put in less effort to do away with vampires or demons.
 
2014-04-14 10:56:16 AM  

FatherChaos: [s3.amazonaws.com image 200x200]

In the author's case, "the worst game I've ever played, so it only applies to my opinion and is not a universal standard"

E.T. was bad, but there are worse.  MUCH worse.


http://www.enviro-bear.com/
 
2014-04-14 10:57:38 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Rapmaster2000

I was so fired up for ET the video game. I don't think we played it for more than an hour. It sucked that bad. Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.


Pac-Man for Atari pissed me off, I was expecting something similar to well Pac-Man not what ever the hell they shipped. I actually beat E.T... don't really remember how but I did it.


You used a bat, usually
 
2014-04-14 10:58:00 AM  

chitlenz: jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.

Sooo true.  It was the first video game I ever played that was a total, utter disappointment.  Christ it sucked.


This is what's weird. I mean that game sucked so hard, but everyone with a 2600 had a copy of It. The reasons it lost so much money actually had nothing to do with the insanely bad gameplay
 
2014-04-14 10:58:42 AM  

scottydoesntknow: kling_klang_bed: *squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.

True, but E.T. was one of the games that helped bring about the Video Game Crash of 1983. It was a terrible game that chose an even worse time to drop. Those two ingredients help vault it to the top of terrible video games.


Plus it cost so much to make (due to licensing) that they would have had to sell more cartridges than there were consoles to break even. The whole thing was a major fiasco.
 
2014-04-14 10:59:29 AM  
I had that game when I was a kid. I still remember the looped sound of ET walk and the sound it made (for whatever reason) when ET raised his neck. It really was a crappy game.
 
2014-04-14 10:59:39 AM  

FatherChaos: [s3.amazonaws.com image 200x200]

In the author's case, "the worst game I've ever played, so it only applies to my opinion and is not a universal standard"

E.T. was bad, but there are worse.  MUCH worse.


No, the author is stating fact.  It is literally the worst game ever.

Your opinion doesn't change the fact of the matter.
 
2014-04-14 11:01:19 AM  
I remember playing it, didn't seem too bad.  I'm thinking many people just didn't understand the game play or how to read the objectives (which admittedly took some figuring out in the days of no internet).
One question though: When you beat it at the end, what the hell was that mouth thing that would open and closing while making that weird ass noise?
 
2014-04-14 11:01:45 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Plus it cost so much to make (due to licensing) that they would have had to sell more cartridges than there were consoles to break even. The whole thing was a major fiasco.


Something of an object lesson on the hubris and overreach that comes at the peak of a bubble or fad.
 
2014-04-14 11:03:17 AM  
Yours truly played that game for like a minute on my friend Troy's Atari back in the early '90s.

He was a "rocker", I was a nerd.  We didn't agree on everything, but we agreed that E.T. should be thrown away, but his dad would have kicked his ass for that because it cost money to buy, which kind of makes sense, but I do know his dad did not play it.

I remember grabbing the cartridge from among two dozen other, better games. At first I was so happy, then my buddy gave me this face: :\ "Nah, man...it suuuuuuuucks. Let's listen to Anthrax" I'm sure those were his exact words.
 
2014-04-14 11:03:35 AM  
On another note, anyone remember a 2600 game that was in space?  Like you had a couple fleets and you had to fly around and destroy an invading alien force?  I seem to recall the cool thing about it was that you could position and move your ships, but then when combat started the view shifted to first person from the fighters.

Anyone remember that, or am I having a bad 80's flashback??
 
2014-04-14 11:06:00 AM  

sendtodave: FatherChaos: [s3.amazonaws.com image 200x200]

In the author's case, "the worst game I've ever played, so it only applies to my opinion and is not a universal standard"

E.T. was bad, but there are worse.  MUCH worse.

No, the author is stating fact.  It is literally the worst game ever.

Your opinion doesn't change the fact of the matter.


Seriously, the thing helped create the Video Game Crash of 1983. The only other game that really is credited to that? Pac-Man for the Atari 2600
 
2014-04-14 11:07:06 AM  
ET was definitely the worst 2400 game I played.  Predator was the worst NES game.
 
2014-04-14 11:07:29 AM  

Uzzah: HypnozombieX: I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.

You never played Adventure?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 480x315]


Superman was another one.
 
2014-04-14 11:07:38 AM  

FatherChaos: [s3.amazonaws.com image 200x200]

In the author's case, "the worst game I've ever played, so it only applies to my opinion and is not a universal standard"

E.T. was bad, but there are worse.  MUCH worse.


This is true..... I think what makes E.T. (and the 2600 Pac Man) get some of the brunt of being the "Worst Ever" is not that they were the absolute "worst", but, they had EXTREMELY high expectations and debuts, and were tied to the biggest movie of all time at the time, and the biggest arcade game at the time.

Yeah, a bunch of 3rd rate developers put out much crappier games than E.T. and Pac Man... but, not many people bought them, and they didn't get that much attention at the time.   E.T. and Pac Man had HUGE spotlights on their debut's, and they did not  .  Which was proven by Ms. Pac Man for 2600.... if that had been pac man (minus the Ms Pac additions), that would have been a much better reception.   E.T.'s issues was mostly gameplay over display issues.
 
2014-04-14 11:08:06 AM  
scottydoesntknow: kling_klang_bed: *squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.

True, but E.T. was one of the games that helped bring about the Video Game Crash of 1983. It was a terrible game that chose an even worse time to drop. Those two ingredients help vault it to the top of terrible video games.


Never heard of that crash, but remember I was 2 years old at that time. :-p
 
2014-04-14 11:09:49 AM  

dletter: E.T. and Pac Man had HUGE spotlights on their debut's, and they did not


Meant to say... they did not deliver of the expectations of being big projects.
 
2014-04-14 11:10:00 AM  
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood
 
2014-04-14 11:10:15 AM  
The Atari version of ET was probably still more playable than Pong.  Pong cost well over $100 in 1976 dollars and got boring in about 20 minutes.  Imagine 40x60 pixels at the most and in black and white--not monochrome--but literally black and white.

Still, it was a computing monster compared to the TS 80 me and my brother had--imagine a computer with 2k of memory...
 
2014-04-14 11:11:01 AM  

corn-bread: On another note, anyone remember a 2600 game that was in space?  Like you had a couple fleets and you had to fly around and destroy an invading alien force?  I seem to recall the cool thing about it was that you could position and move your ships, but then when combat started the view shifted to first person from the fighters.

Anyone remember that, or am I having a bad 80's flashback??


Sounds like Star Raiders to me.
 
2014-04-14 11:11:02 AM  

chitlenz: http://www.enviro-bear.com/



...dafuq?!
 
2014-04-14 11:11:17 AM  
There's also the fixed version of ET, which solves the pixel perfect collision detection as well as a host of other issues:

http://www.neocomputer.org/projects/et/
 
2014-04-14 11:11:27 AM  
Will Geraldo be there?
 
2014-04-14 11:11:29 AM  
Who knows, in a thousand years, even you may be worth something!
 
2014-04-14 11:11:45 AM  
Pac man was a bad game but Raiders was a WTF am I playing game. I can't remember E.T. I don't think we had that one.
 
2014-04-14 11:11:52 AM  

ZenMechanic: My late friend, Emru Townsend wrote an article for PC World back in 2006 on this subject.   http://www.pcworld.com/article/127579/article.html?page=2

Worth a read.



Wow, 1 degree of separation. Emru & I worked together at the same newsweekly (he was the technology reporter), and he helped me get my start in tech writing.
His passing broke my heart.
 
2014-04-14 11:12:03 AM  
Lately I've been learning a bit about programming the 2600 and other systems of that era like the NES, and it amazes me, given their primitive capabilities, that anyone could make a game from them, much less a good one.
 
2014-04-14 11:12:20 AM  

jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.


The whole falling into a whole to find parts for the phone thingy and then having to mash that little orange button on the controller down to extent E.T.s neck in order to float up out of the hole, only to reach the top and not hit the exact pixel needed to escape the hole, and ET falls all the way back down to the bottom of the hole was frustrating. It could take as much as an hour to figure out where that farking narrow opening was and hit it just right to get out of the god dam hole.

So, yeah ET was POS even by the 80's standards.
 
2014-04-14 11:12:47 AM  

corn-bread: On another note, anyone remember a 2600 game that was in space?  Like you had a couple fleets and you had to fly around and destroy an invading alien force?  I seem to recall the cool thing about it was that you could position and move your ships, but then when combat started the view shifted to first person from the fighters.

Anyone remember that, or am I having a bad 80's flashback??


Star Raiders?   had a keypad you used?
 
2014-04-14 11:14:12 AM  

TheDirtyNacho: Lately I've been learning a bit about programming the 2600 and other systems of that era like the NES, and it amazes me, given their primitive capabilities, that anyone could make a game from them, much less a good one.


All in all, it's all done with ones and zeroes.
 
2014-04-14 11:14:19 AM  

HypnozombieX: Ok, I don't know why people keep hating on the E.T. game. I don't remember it being that bad. In  fact I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.


Not true. Pit Fall had an end. No really, if you played for like two hours on one game you eventually hit the end of Pit Fall.
 
2014-04-14 11:14:53 AM  
I think subterranean expeditions in New Mexico have at least a ten percent chance of initiating a Resonance Cascade.

wiki.blackmesasource.com
 
2014-04-14 11:16:27 AM  

Uzzah: HypnozombieX: I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.

You never played Adventure?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 480x315]


Or Haunted House which was basically the same game.
 
2014-04-14 11:18:07 AM  

NickelP: game dev:'umm... ok I guess. You want to send a crew to my office or you going to fly me to washington or what?'


From interviews it sounds like he's proud of what he was able to accomplish with the game given the extremely limited time given to create it.  No one really blames that guy since most of the issues, like time given for development, marketing, over production, etc, were entirely not his fault.  I'd bet he finds the whole thing amusing by this point and probably just as curious if the landfill even exists.
 
2014-04-14 11:18:34 AM  

kling_klang_bed: scottydoesntknow: kling_klang_bed: *squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.

True, but E.T. was one of the games that helped bring about the Video Game Crash of 1983. It was a terrible game that chose an even worse time to drop. Those two ingredients help vault it to the top of terrible video games.

Never heard of that crash, but remember I was 2 years old at that time. :-p


Meh, everybody goes on and on about the great Video Game Crash, but it really only affected over extended companies. It didn't really affect PC title developers and a short while later along came the NES.
 
2014-04-14 11:19:29 AM  

Gary-L: TheDirtyNacho: Lately I've been learning a bit about programming the 2600 and other systems of that era like the NES, and it amazes me, given their primitive capabilities, that anyone could make a game from them, much less a good one.

All in all, it's all done with ones and zeroes.


Believe it or not I programmed a few demos for the Atari 2600 back in the day. It was a really neat machine to program for. 128 bytes of RAM, 4K ROM. You had to be really tight with your code. No video RAM so you programmed the video in real time scanline by scanline.

/wsync
 
2014-04-14 11:19:37 AM  
static.giantbomb.com
SORRY, BUT YOUR CARTRIDGES ARE IN ANOTHER LANDFILL
 
2014-04-14 11:23:16 AM  

CruJones: I feel like playing Combat and bouncing some white shells off walls and killing your tank.


Combat
Target FUn
Target Fun
Laser Blast
Demon Attack
Frogger

good times, good times
 
2014-04-14 11:23:46 AM  

Ghastly: Gary-L: TheDirtyNacho: Lately I've been learning a bit about programming the 2600 and other systems of that era like the NES, and it amazes me, given their primitive capabilities, that anyone could make a game from them, much less a good one.

All in all, it's all done with ones and zeroes.

Believe it or not I programmed a few demos for the Atari 2600 back in the day. It was a really neat machine to program for. 128 bytes of RAM, 4K ROM. You had to be really tight with your code. No video RAM so you programmed the video in real time scanline by scanline.

/wsync



There were some impressive pieces of hacking that went into those games.  I can't fault the programmers, IIRC the guy that wrote ET had about 2 weeks to do it.
 
2014-04-14 11:23:55 AM  

shineyviper: Also, yes, Pac Man for the 2600 sucked terribly, but Ms. Pac Man on the 2600 more than made up for it and was a thing of wonder and beauty.


I will always remember that my older brother and I would both pitch in to cover half the cost of Atari carts.  A few days before Pac-Man came out I did something and got grounded which meant I couldn't play video games.  It came out and after playing it for twenty minutes my brother turned it off and declared it was garbage and I wasn't missing anything.

It wasn't until two weeks later that i got to find out for myself.

I never got to the redemption part of Ms. Pac-Man.

Pac-Man was so terrible I think it essentially was the last console game I played until the PlayStation.
 
2014-04-14 11:24:09 AM  
April 26 is my birthday. I got ET for my birthday when I was a wee pup. The expedition begins on my birthday this year. I can't help some sort of circle is complete.
 
2014-04-14 11:25:04 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: Meh, everybody goes on and on about the great Video Game Crash, but it really only affected over extended companies. It didn't really affect PC title developers and a short while later along came the NES.


The marketing for the NES had to change because of the crash. They had to market it to distribution companies as a toy and not a gaming console. It's why there is R.O.B. the Robot and it's an Entertainment System. It's why Nintendo had the Seal of Approval - Sure they handed it out like candy but they used it as a means of preventing over saturation
 
2014-04-14 11:25:14 AM  

clkeagle: Rapmaster2000: I was so fired up for ET the video game.  I don't think we played it for more than an hour.  It sucked that bad.  Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.

Isn't there another landfill somewhere with all the Pac-Man cartridges? If I remember right - by the time Pac-Man was about to hit shelves, they were already set to ship Ms. Pac-Man (which is a great 2600 game). So they did the same thing as ET - dumped all the secondary shipments instead of letting them go to retail.


2600 Pac-Man shipped in early 1982. Ms. Pac-Man in early 1983 (roughly a year later).

The Ms. Pac-Man port was actually decent for the 2600.
 
2014-04-14 11:26:40 AM  

Mentat: ET was definitely the worst 2400 game I played.


It was so bad, it downgraded the hardware itself by 8%.
 
2014-04-14 11:27:24 AM  
I played the heck out of Star Raiders, River Raid, and worked so darn hard to get that perfect Pitfall score, so I could take a picture of the screen and mail it in to Activision to be a part of the Pitfall Harry club.

Then I got my Commodore 64......
 
2014-04-14 11:27:38 AM  
I feel left out every time this comes up. I was barely born when this game came out, and it's such a part of the history of shiattiness.

That's it, I'm going. I'm helping with the dig. Do I need my own shovel?
 
2014-04-14 11:27:52 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Run... Run far away.
 
2014-04-14 11:28:09 AM  
TheDirtyNacho:
There were some impressive pieces of hacking that went into those games.  I can't fault the programmers, IIRC the guy that wrote ET had about 2 weeks to do it.

There really were.  With bank switching they could get way more data crammed in there than originally designed for.  Pretty sure the NES used that as well.  Go back and play the original super Mario then play 3, hard to believe they both ran on the same hardware.
 
2014-04-14 11:30:37 AM  

UNC_Samurai: gilatrout: The fewer people like subby in NM, the better.

I have several friends that went to St. John's in Santa Fe. Based on everything they've told me, subby needs to troll smarter.


My parents got wind in the early 1990s that a buddy and mine were going to Mexico for spring break.  So my mother got my dad to plan a trip that included Santa Fe, on our way to Aspen to ski.

Santa Fe still stands out as one of the most poseurish/new age/hipster/fake places I have ever been.
 
2014-04-14 11:30:37 AM  

peterthx: clkeagle: Isn't there another landfill somewhere with all the Pac-Man cartridges? If I remember right - by the time Pac-Man was about to hit shelves, they were already set to ship Ms. Pac-Man (which is a great 2600 game). So they did the same thing as ET - dumped all the secondary shipments instead of letting them go to retail.

2600 Pac-Man shipped in early 1982. Ms. Pac-Man in early 1983 (roughly a year later).
The Ms. Pac-Man port was actually decent for the 2600.


Fair enough. I'm probably just mixing up parts of the ET and Pac-Man histories.
 
2014-04-14 11:31:07 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: Meh, everybody goes on and on about the great Video Game Crash, but it really only affected over extended companies. It didn't really affect PC title developers and a short while later along came the NES


It shifted the majority and dominance of video game development to Japan, killed a lot of publishers and developers in the US, and certainly hurt PC title developers who were also making console games.  People go on about it because it completely changed the landscape of video game development and publishing.
 
2014-04-14 11:31:09 AM  
Even though the 2600 version of Pac Man was a disappointing turd of a game, I still ended up mastering it and could flip the score--1,000,000 points IIRC.  Even played it on an old B&W TV.  Yes, my childhood was that dull...
 
2014-04-14 11:31:26 AM  

clkeagle: corn-bread: On another note, anyone remember a 2600 game that was in space?  Like you had a couple fleets and you had to fly around and destroy an invading alien force?  I seem to recall the cool thing about it was that you could position and move your ships, but then when combat started the view shifted to first person from the fighters.

Anyone remember that, or am I having a bad 80's flashback??

Sounds like Star Raiders to me.



Wow.  You know what, I believe that was it!
Thanks!
 
2014-04-14 11:31:52 AM  
www.atariage.com

Played the shait out of this as a kid.  Dragonstomper not shown.
 
2014-04-14 11:32:17 AM  

MycroftHolmes: CruJones: I feel like playing Combat and bouncing some white shells off walls and killing your tank.


Combat was awesome, considering it was the 'free' game that game with the console. Invisible bouncing tanks!
 
2014-04-14 11:33:48 AM  

incrdbil: I played the heck out of Star Raiders, River Raid, and worked so darn hard to get that perfect Pitfall score, so I could take a picture of the screen and mail it in to Activision to be a part of the Pitfall Harry club.

Then I got my Commodore 64......


River Raid was one of the best games produced by a third party manufacturer back then.  We played the hell out of that game back in the summer of '85.  Of course, that was *after* we'd been playing ball and riding bikes outside all day.

Back then, video games were strictly to be played when it was too dark to be outside (or we didn't want to mess around in the dark); the weather outside was bad (snow, rain); or you were sick.  And those rules weren't laid down by the parents.
 
2014-04-14 11:34:39 AM  

rillettes: ZenMechanic: My late friend, Emru Townsend wrote an article for PC World back in 2006 on this subject.   http://www.pcworld.com/article/127579/article.html?page=2

Worth a read.


Wow, 1 degree of separation. Emru & I worked together at the same newsweekly (he was the technology reporter), and he helped me get my start in tech writing.
His passing broke my heart.


He was a high school friend of mine and he passed away about two weeks before my father did.  It was not a good November, 2008.
 
2014-04-14 11:35:40 AM  

kling_klang_bed: *squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.


TAKE THAT BACK!!!

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2014-04-14 11:36:34 AM  
Was it worse than Back to the Future 3 or Boy and His Blob for NES?
 
2014-04-14 11:37:19 AM  

MooseUpNorth: The trick was to exit a pit towards the right, or left, or down.


So the game was so bad, that the way to get out of a hole was to keep digging?
 
2014-04-14 11:37:25 AM  

Atomic Jonb: IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.


I actually enjoyed the challenge of the Indiana Jones game and beat it multiple times unlike E.T. which was pure suck.
 
2014-04-14 11:38:14 AM  
Speaking of obscure games, am I the only one here who played this?:

www.titaniumstudios.com

Dungeons of Draggoth on my TRS-80, good times!
 
2014-04-14 11:39:12 AM  
Little CSB-

When I was younger, I played the ET game a bit as it was one of the games that was handy.  At one point, I did something and instead of the flower coming back to life, it turned into a Yar from Yar's Revenge and flew off the screen.  I was mystified.  I could never replicate it no matter how hard I tried (I was about 10 at the time).  After years of consideration, I figured I just imagined it.  Every once in a while when the internet would mention this game, I would do a search, but to no avail.  It became a phantom of my childhood.  Until about 8 months ago.

Turns out that was an easter egg in the game that no one ever reported on and there were instructions of how to make it happen again.

I feel like that chapter of my life can close now.
 
2014-04-14 11:41:44 AM  

Fart_Machine: [www.atariage.com image 500x375]

Played the shait out of this as a kid.  Dragonstomper not shown.


I thought I was the only one who had that!
 
2014-04-14 11:43:24 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: Meh, everybody goes on and on about the great Video Game Crash, but it really only affected over extended companies. It didn't really affect PC title developers and a short while later along came the NES.


"Overextended companies" undersells it.  Pretty much every major Western hardware maker and game developer was ruined by it, and with the exception of a Mortal Kombat, an NBA Jam, and a run of transcendent computer games over the nineties, the entire balance of power in the video game industry shifted to the Japanese for nearly two decades.

Lumbar Puncture: It shifted the majority and dominance of video game development to Japan, killed a lot of publishers and developers in the US, and certainly hurt PC title developers who were also making console games.  People go on about it because it completely changed the landscape of video game development and publishing.


Oh.  I see I was beaten to the punch.  Very well.
 
2014-04-14 11:43:27 AM  
Anyone know of a good comprehensive site that lists Atari 2600 developer eater eggs?  There were so man urban legends at the time that I and my friends were working towards.

Off the top of my head:

-Hit one million points in Missile Command and unlock some message. (almost got this one)
-Donkey Kong had the missing 3rd level if you broke 100k points or something
 
2014-04-14 11:45:18 AM  
Maybe they'll find the hidden dot and gold key

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-14 11:46:22 AM  
jst3p: kling_klang_bed: *squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.

TAKE THAT BACK!!!

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 284x177]


Nope! Those games to me are as fun as an aneurysm! Almost as boring as those old text versions of D&D. Almost.
 
2014-04-14 11:47:09 AM  

Sybarite: They're digging in the wrong place!

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x358]


hippobytes.com

/FTFY
 
2014-04-14 11:47:29 AM  

H31N0US: AxL sANe: Mmmmm - Green Chilis.

I'll always love Mew Mexico because they put green chilis on everything....

[www.nmgastronome.com image 444x261]

5 Star in Taos?


My brother used to manage the Five Star in Albuquerque.

BTW, we spell it "chile".
 
2014-04-14 11:49:29 AM  

Uzzah: HypnozombieX: I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.

You never played Adventure?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 480x315]


On my old 286.

/ Yeah I'm oldish.
// I had  vic 20 with a tape drive as well.
 
2014-04-14 11:50:15 AM  

theorellior: Tyrone Slothrop: Plus it cost so much to make (due to licensing) that they would have had to sell more cartridges than there were consoles to break even. The whole thing was a major fiasco.

Something of an object lesson on the hubris and overreach that comes at the peak of a bubble or fad.


Yeah, good thing modern video game budgets are so small and sensible.  Wouldn't want that whole crash to happen again....
 
2014-04-14 11:50:40 AM  

BalugaJoe: Atomic Jonb: IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.

It was impossible to win.


Neither of them were impossible to win.
 
2014-04-14 11:51:58 AM  

Frantic Freddie: H31N0US: AxL sANe: Mmmmm - Green Chilis.

I'll always love Mew Mexico because they put green chilis on everything....

[www.nmgastronome.com image 444x261]

5 Star in Taos?

My brother used to manage the Five Star in Albuquerque.

BTW, we spell it "chile".


My brother used to manage the Five Star in Taos.
 
2014-04-14 11:52:59 AM  

WelldeadLink: MooseUpNorth: The trick was to exit a pit towards the right, or left, or down.

So the game was so bad, that the way to get out of a hole was to keep digging?


Yes. That's exactly what you do.
 
2014-04-14 11:55:49 AM  

incrdbil: I played the heck out of Star Raiders, River Raid, and worked so darn hard to get that perfect Pitfall score, so I could take a picture of the screen and mail it in to Activision to be a part of the Pitfall Harry club.


I wasn't that good at Pitfall, but I did get a perfect score (at least I'm as sure as I can be that it was a perfect score) in Pitfall II.
 
2014-04-14 11:55:54 AM  

Atomic Jonb: IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.


I liked Raiders of the Lost Ark.  Didn't care for ET and Pac Man was such a letdown it's not even funny.
 
2014-04-14 11:55:55 AM  
 
2014-04-14 11:57:21 AM  

jst3p: Speaking of obscure games, am I the only one here who played this?:

Dungeons of Draggoth on my TRS-80, good times!


OH MY GOD!!!! I forgot all about that on the trash-80.
 
2014-04-14 12:01:08 PM  

MooseUpNorth: BalugaJoe: Atomic Jonb: IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.

It was impossible to win.

Neither of them were impossible to win.


I beat ET (and if you beat it once then you could beat it all the time).  I never played Raiders of the Lost Ark
 
2014-04-14 12:01:48 PM  
it ain't called "The Land Of Entrapment" for nothin' subby.  If these guys wanna REALLY do something in NM for the Preservation Of Computer History they oughtta get a Historical Marker for MITS in 'querque...
images.pcworld.com
 
2014-04-14 12:02:34 PM  
FTFA: "It'll take place on April 26, with a fill documentary expected to air on Xbox One later in the year."

Will both XBONE users be watching?
 
2014-04-14 12:08:50 PM  

corn-bread: On another note, anyone remember a 2600 game that was in space?  Like you had a couple fleets and you had to fly around and destroy an invading alien force?  I seem to recall the cool thing about it was that you could position and move your ships, but then when combat started the view shifted to first person from the fighters.

Anyone remember that, or am I having a bad 80's flashback??


Space Attack?


/that game was awesome
 
2014-04-14 12:09:18 PM  

sendtodave: Rapmaster2000: I was so fired up for ET the video game.  I don't think we played it for more than an hour.  It sucked that bad.  Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.

Me too.  I wanted desperately to like it.

I kept thinking that I was missing something, doing something wrong.  Then I realized the game just sucked that much.


I remember not really understanding what I was supposed to do in between falling into holes over and over again.  "Oh, I'm in a hole again".  That's my enduring memory of the game.
 
2014-04-14 12:10:07 PM  

MooseUpNorth: /   ET was _not_ the worst game ever made. Extreme Paintbrawl and that crap big rig simulator from some years back still share that dishonor.


Not true. SierraOnline's Dark Crystal was the worst game ever made.

/Jen doesn't know what a Jen is
//Funnily enough, also coded in only a month
 
2014-04-14 12:12:13 PM  
Both the ET game and Raiders were coded by the same guy.
 
2014-04-14 12:12:34 PM  

gweilo8888: MooseUpNorth: /   ET was _not_ the worst game ever made. Extreme Paintbrawl and that crap big rig simulator from some years back still share that dishonor.

Not true. SierraOnline's Dark Crystal was the worst game ever made.

/Jen doesn't know what a Jen is
//Funnily enough, also coded in only a month


Imma let you finish, but a video game where you are a rock star running from love crazed groupies was the worst game of all time!

videogamecritic.com
 
2014-04-14 12:13:18 PM  
I know it isn't Atari but Superman 64 has to be the worst game ever made.

I just got physically ill thinking about it.
 
2014-04-14 12:14:16 PM  

gilatrout: The fewer people like subby in NM, the better.

[www.naturephotoworks.com image 300x210]


Shhh. So far we've heard from ABQ and Alamogordo. Let them speak and represent the whole state.
 
2014-04-14 12:14:43 PM  

kling_klang_bed: *squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.


You hush your whore mouth. Ultima was bad ass, especially the original on a MAC II.
 
2014-04-14 12:15:10 PM  
Actually..i kinda liked it.

/still has working first-gen Atari 2600
//ET game too
 
2014-04-14 12:16:50 PM  
tuhWait for it....

I have lived all over this grat country.  Both coasts, big cities, huge cities, small towns, teeeeeeeeeeny tiny towns.  All over.   I have never had such a love/hate relationship with a state before.

It's incredibly beautiful, the weather is almost always freaking amazing, most people here are decent hard working folks.  However....there is just this underlying poison it seems that i just cant describe.  Its a small percentage of people that seem to just make this a miserable place. I have never seen a more racist place in my life.  The work ethic is laughable.

Meh.   Ive only been here 10 yrs, i could be the crazy one.

Cool half story eh?  Not really.

*crawls back into the darkness*
 
2014-04-14 12:16:59 PM  

Burr: Yeah, good thing modern video game budgets are so small and sensible. Wouldn't want that whole crash to happen again....


If people ever managed to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors, crashes would still happen but they would be from external shocks not from hubris and overreach.
 
2014-04-14 12:17:40 PM  
I owned this game.
It was terrible.

I wish I still had it so I could show the children how terrible it was.
 
2014-04-14 12:18:06 PM  
Worst game ever?  When I first got to use a computer in the 5th grade (1975), it was actually a bulky teletypewriter with a paper Baudot-code reader and was connected to a mainframe with an acoustic coupler the size of a shoebox that blazed along at 72 baud or something like that.  There was one game that we played endlessly was Bagels.  You were supposed to guess a 3-digit number; if you guessed wrong, it would give out answers like "Bagels", "Pico", or "Fermi" depending on how many digits you got right and whether or not they were in the right position.  Hell, even Pong was mind blowing compared to Bagels...
 
2014-04-14 12:20:51 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Are there any copies of Custer's Revenge buried there?


there might be the superman game, which is objectively worse in that it's impossible to figure out what to do in that one.
 
2014-04-14 12:20:54 PM  
Huh.   Apparenlty i hit add post.   Its gonna be one of those days I see.
 
2014-04-14 12:21:38 PM  

Kougsy: I know it isn't Atari but Superman 64 has to be the worst game ever made.

I just got physically ill thinking about it.


Forgot about that one. Thanks, jerk.

/and you're right
 
2014-04-14 12:21:41 PM  
I have no idea how Ancient Greece got into the game... or a flasher... but what the hell why not.

atariage.com
 
2014-04-14 12:21:54 PM  

madgonad: ET and Raiders of the Lost Ark were not bad games. The adventure/RPG games of today are direct descendants. ET got a bad rap because it was rushed and was at the limits of what the 2600 could do. The games showing up in arcades were far beyond it.

I still have fond memories of playing and beating Raiders. Timing the parachute openings around that branch to get into the opening of the cliff was an actual accomplishment.


i loved the raiders game
 
2014-04-14 12:22:28 PM  
Rapmaster2000 I remember not really understanding what I was supposed to do in between falling into holes over and over again.  "Oh, I'm in a hole again".

You're thinking of "Custer's Revenge" ;-)
 
2014-04-14 12:23:33 PM  
cloudfront-assets.techliberation.com

I feel like I am at the game!
 
2014-04-14 12:23:45 PM  
Alamagordo???  I thought that they were incinerated by dumping them into the throat of Capulin Volcano?

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-14 12:25:42 PM  

way south: I owned this game.
It was terrible.

I wish I still had it so I could show the children how terrible it was.


Get an emulator.  Or you could probably find it cheap on eBay, despite so many copies being allegedly buried in a landfill, it was a very abundant game.  Seriously, I don't think I know anyone who had a 2600 that didn't have that game.
 
2014-04-14 12:26:04 PM  

cgraves67: garandman1a: As this site is blocked at work, anyone care to share what this is about?

Some guys want to go to NM and dig up the landfill where Atari purportedly buried thousands of copies of the terrible 'E.T. the Extraterrestrial' game.


Thank you. I do appreciate the answer.
 
2014-04-14 12:28:15 PM  

nekom: way south: I owned this game.
It was terrible.

I wish I still had it so I could show the children how terrible it was.

Get an emulator.  Or you could probably find it cheap on eBay, despite so many copies being allegedly buried in a landfill, it was a very abundant game.  Seriously, I don't think I know anyone who had a 2600 that didn't have that game.


http://www.virtualatari.org/soft.php?soft=ET
 
2014-04-14 12:29:48 PM  
Gotta admit that the best. game. ever. for me was the Roller Coaster Tycoon series.  I actually won $3985 in contest money designing a coaster for RCT3.  Right now, the only game I really play anymore is the Platinum Edition of RCT3 which makes up for the glitches in the first version of RCT3 and is easily the apotheosis of the RCT series.  It's nearly a decade old, but still kicks the heck out of Farmville.

That won't be for long; I just ordered the complete Civilization IV package (with the 3 add-ons) off of Amazon and should be getting it around the time I return from Germany.  The only thing that sucks about the Civ series is that they kick my ass on all but the easiest settings, but the mind-blowing depth of the game keeps luring me back.

The SimCity series, up until the disastrous release of Sim V, was also a big favorite of mine.  I also loved SSG's Warlords series and wish they would work on a Vista machine.  Finally, it's a good thing I didn't discover Minecraft until too late or else I'd probably be addicted to it...
 
2014-04-14 12:30:07 PM  

ObeliskToucher: Alamagordo???  I thought that they were incinerated by dumping them into the throat of Capulin Volcano?


Little known fact:  the Trinity shot's primary purpose actually was to vaporize beta versions of the game.
 
2014-04-14 12:31:08 PM  

labman: Atomic Jonb: IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.

I liked Raiders of the Lost Ark.  Didn't care for ET and Pac Man was such a letdown it's not even funny.


I don't understand how Pac Man can be a letdown. It's about as simple as a game can get. What was wrong with it?
 
2014-04-14 12:33:03 PM  

Kinetic King: Gotta admit that the best. game. ever. for me was the Roller Coaster Tycoon series.  I actually won $3985 in contest money designing a coaster for RCT3.  Right now, the only game I really play anymore is the Platinum Edition of RCT3 which makes up for the glitches in the first version of RCT3 and is easily the apotheosis of the RCT series.  It's nearly a decade old, but still kicks the heck out of Farmville.

That won't be for long; I just ordered the complete Civilization IV package (with the 3 add-ons) off of Amazon and should be getting it around the time I return from Germany.  The only thing that sucks about the Civ series is that they kick my ass on all but the easiest settings, but the mind-blowing depth of the game keeps luring me back.

The SimCity series, up until the disastrous release of Sim V, was also a big favorite of mine.  I also loved SSG's Warlords series and wish they would work on a Vista machine.  Finally, it's a good thing I didn't discover Minecraft until too late or else I'd probably be addicted to it...


My favorite game of all time:

cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com

In my opinion it was amazing, for it's time.
 
2014-04-14 12:33:58 PM  
I'm old enough to have played ET on the Atari back in the day, and I agree it was frustrating.  But, we simply weren't conditioned to games that weren't instantly obvious through the gameplay.  The necessary information is all contained in the manual, and the rest is just learning the game and developing a strategy.   I played the game a few months ago after reading an online strategy guide--something else we didn't have back in those days--and with that knowledge, and decades of experience playing video games, it took me 5 minutes to beat it.  Getting out of the pits is simple once you know how to do it.   I've played far worse games on my Android phone.
 
2014-04-14 12:35:45 PM  
Just waiting for Dr. Kurzweil to show up and tell us that ET was a quiet weapon for a silent war...

/ watch out for the bees. And the black helicopters chasing you through all that corn
 
2014-04-14 12:35:50 PM  

jst3p: Imma let you finish, but a video game where you are a rock star running from love crazed groupies was the worst game of all time!

[videogamecritic.com image 640x420]


First video game I ever finished!

Er, actually, it just flips back to the beginning. But still, it felt like an accomplishment.
 
2014-04-14 12:35:55 PM  

SuperChuck: labman: Atomic Jonb: IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.

I liked Raiders of the Lost Ark.  Didn't care for ET and Pac Man was such a letdown it's not even funny.

I don't understand how Pac Man can be a letdown. It's about as simple as a game can get. What was wrong with it?


If you saw the Atari 2600 version, you'd understand.  Instead of the usual arcade maze, there was this crappy, blocky maze that was hard to navigate.  The ghosts flickered because there wasn't enough memory to render all four ghosts at the same time.  As for SFX, Pac Man went "nang", "nang", "nang" that sounded nothing like the arcade version.  It was a turd of a game and even the Apple IIe version was vastly superior.  I can't even imagine the crappiness level of the 2600 version of ET...
 
2014-04-14 12:35:58 PM  
I remember being completely demoralized by this game.  I thought I just sucked at games.
 
2014-04-14 12:38:01 PM  

Kinetic King: SuperChuck: labman: Atomic Jonb: IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.

I liked Raiders of the Lost Ark.  Didn't care for ET and Pac Man was such a letdown it's not even funny.

I don't understand how Pac Man can be a letdown. It's about as simple as a game can get. What was wrong with it?

If you saw the Atari 2600 version, you'd understand.  Instead of the usual arcade maze, there was this crappy, blocky maze that was hard to navigate.  The ghosts flickered because there wasn't enough memory to render all four ghosts at the same time.  As for SFX, Pac Man went "nang", "nang", "nang" that sounded nothing like the arcade version.  It was a turd of a game and even the Apple IIe version was vastly superior.  I can't even imagine the crappiness level of the 2600 version of ET...


http://youtu.be/XdT0lrm4b2s

a.images.blip.tv
 
2014-04-14 12:38:08 PM  
I'm still trying to figure out how I used to be so good at Yar's Revenge. I've played that game recently and don't remember it being as difficult as it seems.
Also, the worst game: Flag Capture.
 
2014-04-14 12:39:14 PM  

ISO15693: [cloudfront-assets.techliberation.com image 640x400]

I feel like I am at the game!


we actually setup with like 6 guys a league and took turns playing home and away  each week

came out with a league schedule, team names, and get together each weekend  and play head to head

top team in each division made the playoffs

good times good times
 
2014-04-14 12:39:59 PM  

SuperChuck: I don't understand how Pac Man can be a letdown. It's about as simple as a game can get. What was wrong with it?


Bad colors, flickery sprites, it looked nothing like the arcade game, and the noise PacMan made wasn't "wokka-wokka-wokka-woo-woo-woo", it was like someone was strumming a really big rubber band. Total fail from a look-n-feel standpoint.
 
2014-04-14 12:40:14 PM  

Ambitwistor: ObeliskToucher: Alamagordo???  I thought that they were incinerated by dumping them into the throat of Capulin Volcano?

Little known fact:  the Trinity shot's primary purpose actually was to vaporize beta versions of the game.


Any fan of crummy 1950s monster movies knows, those ET cartridges are going to mutate into a giant radioactive Atari console that's going to run amok--first, eating Santa Fe, then taking a left at Albuquerque and heading off to eat other cities.  Worse yet, it will mega-suck and cause gamers around the world to literally die of boredom...
 
2014-04-14 12:40:19 PM  
 Tyrone Slothrop: Plus it cost so much to make (due to licensing) that they would have had to sell more cartridges than there were consoles to break even. The whole thing was a major fiasco.

Supposedly the whole deal was just a ploy by Steve Ross to lure Steven Spielberg to Warner Bros...I'm sure if they realized it would crash their entire VCS market they'd be more careful.  It also birthed the "All Movie Videogame Movies Suck" Maxim, not that 20th Century Fox Games helped...(i liked Parker Brox 'Empire Strikes Back' & 'Spider-Man')
http://atariage.com/forums/topic/66637-ataris-landfill-adventures-i- no w-have-the-proof-its-true/page-55
 
2014-04-14 12:40:37 PM  
And just for reference sake, here's a complete play-through of ET on the 2600:

http://youtu.be/_Bn192kSsMw
 
2014-04-14 12:40:37 PM  
When I was a kid I lived next door to Ed Rotberg for awhile. He was one of the Atari coin op guys, pretty instrumental player. Wrote most of Battlezone, which was an amazing game for the time period, he had the arcade version in his study.

http://www.dadgum.com/halcyon/BOOK/ROTBERG.HTM

He was a pretty cool guy, huge Cubs fan. He got me interested in gaming and in computer. I am a Unix Sysadmin today. I wish I had known then what I know now, would have spent more time chatting him up and less asking how to make a ninja in Wizardry on his Macintosh.
 
2014-04-14 12:43:24 PM  
All I ever used the Atari 2500 for was to CG over video.
My weapon of choice was the most venerable Commodore 64. Favorite game on that was Red Storm Rising.
 
2014-04-14 12:44:33 PM  

H31N0US: Frantic Freddie: H31N0US: AxL sANe: Mmmmm - Green Chilis.

I'll always love Mew Mexico because they put green chilis on everything....

[www.nmgastronome.com image 444x261]

5 Star in Taos?

My brother used to manage the Five Star in Albuquerque.

BTW, we spell it "chile".

My brother used to manage the Five Star in Taos.


Then they probably know each other.
 
2014-04-14 12:45:14 PM  

SuperChuck: I don't understand how Pac Man can be a letdown. It's about as simple as a game can get. What was wrong with it?


Pretty good:
media2.picsearch.com
Sound: [wakka-wakka-wakka]

Very meh:
www.consoleclassix.comSound: [punk punk pupunk]
Unbelievably irritating:
media3.picsearch.com
Sound: [pew! pEW! PEW! PEW! Pew! pEW! PEW! Pew! pEW!"
 
2014-04-14 12:46:56 PM  
My father is heading the archaeology part of this, so I'm getting a kick and whatever.
 
2014-04-14 12:47:38 PM  
spottymax Maybe they'll find the hidden dot and gold key

I like how after all he's done, he's got an Adventure screencap on his homepage, vintage stickin' it 2 The credit-hogging Man  http://www.warrenrobinett.com/

jst3p When I was a kid I lived next door to Ed Rotberg for awhile. He was one of the Atari coin op guys, pretty instrumental player.

He probably enjoyed helping you with the ninjas more.  If he went into workstuff you probably wouldn't be working in Unix
 
2014-04-14 12:49:32 PM  

MooseUpNorth: SuperChuck: I don't understand how Pac Man can be a letdown. It's about as simple as a game can get. What was wrong with it?

Pretty good:
[media2.picsearch.com image 183x240]
Sound: [wakka-wakka-wakka]

Very meh:
[www.consoleclassix.com image 256x224]Sound: [punk punk pupunk]
Unbelievably irritating:
[media3.picsearch.com image 229x231]
Sound: [pew! pEW! PEW! PEW! Pew! pEW! PEW! Pew! pEW!"


Huh. I had the top one. Must have been a different Atari version. Maybe it was the 800 instead of 2600.
 
2014-04-14 12:50:20 PM  
That reminds me, if you want to discuss crappy games, what about the electronic hand-held games that were popular in the 70s and early 80s?  Some of them literally had maybe a couple of control buttons and maybe 10 dull-red LEDs with maybe a football gridiron or something like that drawn over them.  Unbelievably lame, yet we played them...
 
2014-04-14 12:50:38 PM  

kling_klang_bed: *squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.


Bwhahahahahah. Now this is how you troll.
 
2014-04-14 12:51:31 PM  

corn-bread: On another note, anyone remember a 2600 game that was in space?  Like you had a couple fleets and you had to fly around and destroy an invading alien force?  I seem to recall the cool thing about it was that you could position and move your ships, but then when combat started the view shifted to first person from the fighters.

Anyone remember that, or am I having a bad 80's flashback??


star raiders and it had a nifty touchpad controller to turn on shields, targetting computer, and hyperspace
 
2014-04-14 12:52:23 PM  

Ty Webb: This is happening in the town I grew up in, and subby is absolutely right - great place to see in your rear view mirror.


Lubbock, Texas?
 
2014-04-14 12:52:41 PM  

Fano: star raiders and it had a nifty touchpad controller to turn on shields, targetting computer, and hyperspace


I miss Star Raiders.
 
2014-04-14 12:54:48 PM  

TTBoyArDee: April 26 is my birthday. I got ET for my birthday when I was a wee pup. The expedition begins on my birthday this year. I can't help some sort of circle is complete.


My god, he's the one. SOMEBODY KILL HIM!
 
2014-04-14 12:55:42 PM  
InsaneJellTroll My father is heading the archaeology part of this, so I'm getting a kick and whatever.

You warn him "Don't Look, Marion!"?
076dd0a50e0c1255009e-bd4b8aabaca29897bc751dfaf75b290c.r40.cf1.rackcdn.com
what a funny shot...Ark Opening As Metaphor
 
2014-04-14 12:57:41 PM  

SuperChuck: MooseUpNorth: SuperChuck: I don't understand how Pac Man can be a letdown. It's about as simple as a game can get. What was wrong with it?

Pretty good:
[media2.picsearch.com image 183x240]
Sound: [wakka-wakka-wakka]

Very meh:
[www.consoleclassix.com image 256x224]Sound: [punk punk pupunk]
Unbelievably irritating:
[media3.picsearch.com image 229x231]
Sound: [pew! pEW! PEW! PEW! Pew! pEW! PEW! Pew! pEW!"

Huh. I had the top one. Must have been a different Atari version. Maybe it was the 800 instead of 2600.


Yep, 800 is a computer and could run considerably higher resolutions and color depth.
 
2014-04-14 12:58:24 PM  
HooskerDoo Lubbock, Texas?

I can tell you what moment Buddy Holly wished he was  back there,,,
 
2014-04-14 01:00:06 PM  
They won't find anything worth digging up. Atari ground everything to pieces before dumping and poured concrete over them afterwards.
 
2014-04-14 01:00:06 PM  

Kinetic King: That reminds me, if you want to discuss crappy games, what about the electronic hand-held games that were popular in the 70s and early 80s?  Some of them literally had maybe a couple of control buttons and maybe 10 dull-red LEDs with maybe a football gridiron or something like that drawn over them.  Unbelievably lame, yet we played them...


Oh, yes. Mattel Soccer. I figured out a "corner kick" trick that would get me double digit scores. I also had a "sub hunt" game that basically consisted of moving arrow keys around until the "ping" of the "sub" got really fast, then you "dropped" a "depth charge". When you got above a score of "99" the two-element 7-segment display would continue on in hex until it go to "FE".

Good for wasting a rainy half-hour, not much more. Plus, the noise probably drove my mother crazy.
 
2014-04-14 01:01:36 PM  

theflatline: UNC_Samurai: gilatrout: The fewer people like subby in NM, the better.

I have several friends that went to St. John's in Santa Fe. Based on everything they've told me, subby needs to troll smarter.

My parents got wind in the early 1990s that a buddy and mine were going to Mexico for spring break.  So my mother got my dad to plan a trip that included Santa Fe, on our way to Aspen to ski.

Santa Fe still stands out as one of the most poseurish/new age/hipster/fake places I have ever been.


I really like New Mexico, but you're right about Santa Fe. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.
 
2014-04-14 01:02:06 PM  

MooseUpNorth: Unbelievably irritating:


My best friend in 5th and 6th grade had a reasonably entertaining mini-console game that was like a mini Galaga. Far superior to that PacMan tabletop game.
 
2014-04-14 01:04:51 PM  

theorellior: Kinetic King: That reminds me, if you want to discuss crappy games, what about the electronic hand-held games that were popular in the 70s and early 80s?  Some of them literally had maybe a couple of control buttons and maybe 10 dull-red LEDs with maybe a football gridiron or something like that drawn over them.  Unbelievably lame, yet we played them...

Oh, yes. Mattel Soccer. I figured out a "corner kick" trick that would get me double digit scores. I also had a "sub hunt" game that basically consisted of moving arrow keys around until the "ping" of the "sub" got really fast, then you "dropped" a "depth charge". When you got above a score of "99" the two-element 7-segment display would continue on in hex until it go to "FE".

Good for wasting a rainy half-hour, not much more. Plus, the noise probably drove my mother crazy.


Remember Simon?  That was in a class of it's own because it had colored buttons that lit up.  It would light up the buttons in a random order and then you'd have to press the buttons in the same order--it got dull after about 10 minutes.

Also, remember the rip-off versions of arcade games you'd see in places like the Minnesota State Fair?  During the 80s when the Midway games were run by a really sleazy group of carnies, you'd have a tent full of knock offs like Eat-Man or Star Invaders that were of questionable legal status...
 
2014-04-14 01:06:27 PM  
i.imgur.com

The cartridges.  If they are there at Alamogordo.  Then they are something that man was not meant to disturb. Nerds have always surrounded it. They are not worth this effort.
 
2014-04-14 01:10:07 PM  

special20: All I ever used the Atari 2500 for was to CG over video.
My weapon of choice was the most venerable Commodore 64. Favorite game on that was Red Storm Rising.



I hated the TASMs.  They always seemed to get shot down on the targets that needed it most.  A Udaloy?  No problem, TASM always got through.  The KIEV?  Nope, shoot-down, shoot-down, shoot-down.
 
2014-04-14 01:11:57 PM  
One of my RCT creations...

www.lunatim.com
 
2014-04-14 01:13:36 PM  
And a Mona Lisa I did in flowers in RCT2...

www.lunatim.com
 
2014-04-14 01:15:18 PM  

Kinetic King: Remember Simon? That was in a class of it's own because it had colored buttons that lit up. It would light up the buttons in a random order and then you'd have to press the buttons in the same order--it got dull after about 10 minutes.


My friend and I would have competitions on Simon, but I was never very good. A similar game was Major Morgan, that looked kinda like a brick cellphone but had these red and clear membrane buttons. You could slide a "game card" over them to play different games.
 
2014-04-14 01:15:52 PM  

TappingTheVein: Careful not to dig up this guy:
[d2nh4f9cbhlobh.cloudfront.net image 427x632]


Holy shiat I didn't think anyone else had seen that movie.
 
2014-04-14 01:17:14 PM  

Kinetic King: One of my RCT creations...


R'lyeh, the non-Euclidean architecture of which to drive one mad ...
 
2014-04-14 01:17:24 PM  
And two more images.  Maybe these will get the crummy ET graphics out of your head, folks...
www.lunatim.com
www.lunatim.com
 
2014-04-14 01:19:22 PM  

Kinetic King: And two more images. Maybe these will get the crummy ET graphics out of your head, folks...


Wow. That's dedication.
 
2014-04-14 01:19:33 PM  

theorellior: Kinetic King: Remember Simon? That was in a class of it's own because it had colored buttons that lit up. It would light up the buttons in a random order and then you'd have to press the buttons in the same order--it got dull after about 10 minutes.

My friend and I would have competitions on Simon, but I was never very good. A similar game was Major Morgan, that looked kinda like a brick cellphone but had these red and clear membrane buttons. You could slide a "game card" over them to play different games.


I don't recall Major Morgan, but I would have thought the game card gimmick was pretty neat at the time...
 
2014-04-14 01:22:56 PM  
260 comments and not one "Leave the Bronx for Enchanting New Mexico" references?

img3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-04-14 01:24:07 PM  

theorellior: Kinetic King: And two more images. Maybe these will get the crummy ET graphics out of your head, folks...

Wow. That's dedication.


Thanks, theorellior!  Yeah, I was a power player when it came to sim games.  But, really, I doubt that I spent more time playing computer games than other people spent watching television, so it's not as pathetic as it first appears.  I even tried to convince the various makers makers of RCT (Microprose, Hasbro, Atari) to hire me as a scenario designer, but Chris Sawyer's own agents told me to not waste my time because the video-game industry is run like a sweatshop...
 
2014-04-14 01:26:22 PM  

theorellior: Everyone hates ET, but then there's this guy, who learned how to hack Atari code and then tried to fix the gameplay problems as a challenge.


Now that was pretty cool. I haven't seen low level assy code for a long time and seeing how he hacked the fixes was interesting. All the comments about clock cycles, how many byes needed and saved and what was wrong. Brought back some memories from my C-64 days.

This is something few programmers today even think about.

I remember my experiences with trying to convert Blue Max on a C-64 from a cassette loader to disk and used a disassembler to track it. The code was all over the place and I eventually found a warning to us "pirates" about how he worked hard on the code and did not like us stealing it.

/good times
 
2014-04-14 01:28:03 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
Here we are, live at the scene of this historic event. We should be coming across thousands of E.T. cartridges any moment now...
 
2014-04-14 01:29:54 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-04-14 01:30:33 PM  
Anybody else remember Missile Command?  IIRC, the Atari 2600 version was almost as good as the arcade version.  It was a very grim game in which you tried to prevent six cities from getting nuked by firing anti-missile missiles at incoming ICBMs.  But what would you expect of a video game that came out while the Cold War was still raging?
 
2014-04-14 01:31:36 PM  

CruJones: I feel like playing Combat and bouncing some white shells off walls and killing your tank.


I liked that game; we found that if you slid the tanks right up against one of the internal walls and then 'twitched' it towards the wall, the program would whirl the tank around the corner. If it was hit while whirling, the tank would then keep whirling all across the map.
 
2014-04-14 01:33:23 PM  

saturn badger: Now that was pretty cool. I haven't seen low level assy code for a long time and seeing how he hacked the fixes was interesting. All the comments about clock cycles, how many byes needed and saved and what was wrong. Brought back some memories from my C-64 days.


Yeah, I'm not a coder but I've done some dabbling, so I was able to get the gist of what he was doing. Pretty crazy to think that you had to squeeze every clock cycle and byte available to you. That kind of coding has gone the way of the dodo. With gigahertz and gigabytes to play with you can just throw more and more lines of mishmash at a problem until something sticks.
 
2014-04-14 01:34:03 PM  

special20: All I ever used the Atari 2500 for was to CG over video.
My weapon of choice was the most venerable Commodore 64. Favorite game on that was Red Storm Rising.


I loved that game. Played it via a emulator a few years back, still excellent gameplay.
 
2014-04-14 01:34:42 PM  
Some reports indicate that the stuff buried was mostly stuff other than ET cartridges, like broken consoles returned under warranty.  It'll be interesting what they actually find.
 
2014-04-14 01:35:28 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: I have a Game.con handheld game on the shelf in the closet.  Within that evil device is the worst game ever made: "Batman and Robin".


I think I had the C64 version of that game.  It was indeed horrible and pointless.
 
2014-04-14 01:39:34 PM  

Atomic Jonb: special20: All I ever used the Atari 2500 for was to CG over video.
My weapon of choice was the most venerable Commodore 64. Favorite game on that was Red Storm Rising.


I hated the TASMs.  They always seemed to get shot down on the targets that needed it most.  A Udaloy?  No problem, TASM always got through.  The KIEV?  Nope, shoot-down, shoot-down, shoot-down.


I loved the higher level settings, where you had to match sonar patterns to the manual to identify ship class.

I loved the hunt the boomer mission, which rapidly turned into a knife fight range game that made you sweat.
 
2014-04-14 01:40:04 PM  

Kinetic King: But, really, I doubt that I spent more time playing computer games than other people spent watching television, so it's not as pathetic as it first appears.


It's not pathetic, at least not to me. I know a loose gang of people who come from all walks of life and they are all obsessed with Sims modding. Some of the stuff they produce is incredible. And I've been known to create fictional worlds all the way down to the plate tectonics, so no worries here.
 
2014-04-14 01:43:43 PM  
Back in the early 80s, my brother and I had a Timex-Sinclair 80 computer.  It cost something like $30, had 44 by 64 pixel graphics, and you really couldn't do much with the 2k of RAM.  In spite of that, I used it to do a problem in heat transfer for a college class that used finite element mathematics.  I also had one game with it, Conway's Game of Life.  The Game of Life was the only app that even made the TS 80 worth playing, and got me interested in cellular automata.  I'm surprised that nobody has come up with a best-selling game that uses cellular automata yet...
 
2014-04-14 01:43:54 PM  

ApocoLypstick: most people here are decent hard working folks. ... The work ethic is laughable.


Which is it?
 
2014-04-14 01:43:59 PM  

Orgasmatron138: Kougsy: I know it isn't Atari but Superman 64 has to be the worst game ever made.

I just got physically ill thinking about it.

Forgot about that one. Thanks, jerk.

/and you're right


You guys are mixing it up with the Nintendo Superman 64.

Superman for the VCS (2600) was actually a fun game.
 
2014-04-14 01:47:01 PM  

theorellior: Kinetic King: Remember Simon? That was in a class of it's own because it had colored buttons that lit up. It would light up the buttons in a random order and then you'd have to press the buttons in the same order--it got dull after about 10 minutes.

My friend and I would have competitions on Simon, but I was never very good. A similar game was Major Morgan, that looked kinda like a brick cellphone but had these red and clear membrane buttons. You could slide a "game card" over them to play different games.


Major Morgan?  Sounds like a rebranded Merlin:

img689.imageshack.us
 
2014-04-14 01:47:08 PM  
Kinetic King:  I'm surprised that nobody has come up with a best-selling game that uses cellular automata yet...

Obviously you haven't played Mathematica
 
2014-04-14 01:50:09 PM  
I saw all I ever needed to see of that E.T. game when I watched a video of a guy playing it while high on painkillers after having his wisdom teeth removed.

The Spoony Experiment (NSFW language)
 
2014-04-14 01:50:22 PM  

theorellior: Kinetic King: But, really, I doubt that I spent more time playing computer games than other people spent watching television, so it's not as pathetic as it first appears.

It's not pathetic, at least not to me. I know a loose gang of people who come from all walks of life and they are all obsessed with Sims modding. Some of the stuff they produce is incredible. And I've been known to create fictional worlds all the way down to the plate tectonics, so no worries here.


Thanks for understanding.  I do think that computer games, even first-person shooters, are better than TV because they're interactive instead of passive.  And simulation games really expand peoples' minds, especially with things like Sims modding where you create your own game play.

What I think is weird is how simulation games seem to take a back seat to adventure/war/shooter games.  The gaming industry seems oblivious to the fact that SimCity and Roller Coaster Tycoon were the top-selling games ever when they game out.  And the Civ series seems to kick butt as well.

Weird anecdote:  the local paper, the Pioneer Press, had a video-game reviewer for a while.  He had a totally shreddin' punk hair style and while he concentrated on adventure/war/shooter games, he seemed almost hard-headedly oblivious to the sim games like RCT that were smashing sales records.  Turns out, he's Vox Day, one of the pundits over at Conservapedia.  It figures...
 
2014-04-14 01:53:58 PM  
I'll just leave this here

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-14 02:03:48 PM  

shineyviper: Major Morgan? Sounds like a rebranded Merlin:


Crap. It was a Merlin. Major Morgan was a hand-held synth game.
 
2014-04-14 02:16:26 PM  

Kinetic King: And two more images.  Maybe these will get the crummy ET graphics out of your head, folks...
[www.lunatim.com image 640x480]
[www.lunatim.com image 750x500]


You know how we all know you have no life?

/you smell like basement
 
2014-04-14 02:16:53 PM  

MooseUpNorth: SuperChuck: I don't understand how Pac Man can be a letdown. It's about as simple as a game can get. What was wrong with it?

Pretty good:
[media2.picsearch.com image 183x240]
Sound: [wakka-wakka-wakka]

Very meh:
[www.consoleclassix.com image 256x224]Sound: [punk punk pupunk]
Unbelievably irritating:
[media3.picsearch.com image 229x231]
Sound: [pew! pEW! PEW! PEW! Pew! pEW! PEW! Pew! pEW!"


Left out the runt of the litter...

zone.bomberoza.net
 
2014-04-14 02:28:38 PM  

incrdbil: Atomic Jonb: special20: All I ever used the Atari 2500 for was to CG over video.
My weapon of choice was the most venerable Commodore 64. Favorite game on that was Red Storm Rising.

I loved the higher level settings, where you had to match sonar patterns to the manual to identify ship class.

I loved the hunt the boomer mission, which rapidly turned into a knife fight range game that made you sweat.


Nothing like firing torpedos blindly down the heading the incoming torps are coming from, and then trying to dodge multiple torpedos at once.  I could usually handle two (with decoys and noisemakers) but 3 or more, and I was farked.  But at that point, if your weren't at max depth, you were cavitating so everyone would just pile-on.

Just the memories make me twitchy.
 
2014-04-14 02:37:13 PM  

MycroftHolmes: I'll just leave this here

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 520x501]



I played the heck out of Elite on my C-64 in the late 80's.  There may have been a larger point to the game, but all I did was hop from planet to planet trading in drugs and slaves to build up my ship's weapons and defenses.  I loved the dogfighting aspect of that game, and absolutely HATED manually docking with the space stations.  I also hated that once in a while your ship would crash even with an automatic docking device.  I know it happened to me once or twice.

I remember when my cousin got ET for her 2600.  I bet I played it all of 5 minutes.  Same with Pac-Man.  When I was in 5th grade in 1982 I got an Intellivision for Christmas (still probably the best gift I ever received) and I was the hit of the neighborhood.  Space Battle, Space Armada, Astro Smash, Utopia, Night Stalker, Micro Surgeon, Armor Battle, Pitfall, you name it.  I loved those games.  Then in 1984 my friend got a Coleco Vision and we all sat around playing Pole Position nonstop and forgot about the previous consoles.  The Atari 5200 was in there somewhere as well.  In 1986 I upgraded to a C-64 and did nothing but play games on it until around 1990 or so.  It was weird how consoles and platforms just appeared and the previous ones were left behind.  I remember when Intellivsion came out, and immediately it was uncool to have an Atari.  Even the Atari 5200 didn't seem to help.  And Intellivision was replaced just as quickly.

It was amazing how fast things went.  In 1980 or so the Atari 2600 was out of this world.  By 1984 or so, even with much better consoles in the market, the whole thing was just gone it seemed.  Even with all the cool C-64 games I had, and all the hours I spent with my friends playing Wizardry and Kings Quest on their PC jr, those post-crash years seemed bleak.

One of my regrets from back then is that I never tinkered with the C-64, other than to play games.  From what I've read in later years it was a pretty versatile computer that was capable of quite a bit.
 
2014-04-14 02:41:58 PM  

gweilo8888: Kinetic King: And two more images.  Maybe these will get the crummy ET graphics out of your head, folks...
[www.lunatim.com image 640x480]
[www.lunatim.com image 750x500]

You know how we all know you have no life?

/you smell like basement


No, it's just that I probably don't waste as much time on Fark or watching TV as you do.  Also, I'm flying to Munich in two days to make a giant stick bomb for German TV--I'll make enough in a week of work to goof off for the next two months...
 
2014-04-14 02:46:01 PM  
I remember finishing the game probably a dozen times or so. Which means probably a couple of hundred failures. For me, it was the first video game that actually had an endpoint, instead of simply repeating the last level over and over. (Or the second level, for the Atari Donkey Kong port.) After spending countless hours rolling the score over on other games, it was a refreshing change of pace to know that I could sit down and finish a game, one way or another, inside of half an hour. Sure, the controls were frustrating, and the randomness of the FBI/scientist showing up to take part of the phone just seconds before the mothership arrived was the height of frustration, but it's not like it took forever to get to that point, either.
 
Oak
2014-04-14 02:49:12 PM  

Ambitwistor: Kinetic King: One of my RCT creations...

R'lyeh, the non-Euclidean architecture of which to drive one mad ...

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh E.T. Alamogordo wgah'nagl fhtagn

 
2014-04-14 02:49:16 PM  

Loan Starr: One of my regrets from back then is that I never tinkered with the C-64, other than to play games. From what I've read in later years it was a pretty versatile computer that was capable of quite a bit.


I programmed the heck out of my C-64 in basic.  Never got into the more advanced languages (assembler made my head hurt), and the difficulty in programming hi-res graphics were pretty much limited me to basic.  I do regret not sticking with programming.  Of course I was in maybe 6th grade at the time.
 
2014-04-14 02:49:41 PM  

Man On Pink Corner: Kinetic King:  I'm surprised that nobody has come up with a best-selling game that uses cellular automata yet...

Obviously you haven't played Mathematica


I've vaguely heard of Mathematica, but never realized that you could do cellular automata on it.  One of my abandoned projects was to design a smartphone app game called G'Rabbit using CA--I decided that it was too dull.  Besides, I have an idea for a kinetic-art toy that might be patentable that I'm working on when I return from my Germany trip...
 
2014-04-14 02:52:43 PM  

theorellior: Kinetic King: Remember Simon? That was in a class of it's own because it had colored buttons that lit up. It would light up the buttons in a random order and then you'd have to press the buttons in the same order--it got dull after about 10 minutes.

My friend and I would have competitions on Simon, but I was never very good. A similar game was Major Morgan, that looked kinda like a brick cellphone but had these red and clear membrane buttons. You could slide a "game card" over them to play different games.


I remeber MErlin which sounds like your description.


upload.wikimedia.org

Also wasted a lot of time with the below.


www.campx.ca
 
2014-04-14 02:53:05 PM  

BalugaJoe: Atomic Jonb: IIRC, Raiders of the Lost Ark had a really bad Atari game also.

And yes, let ET stay buried.

It was impossible to win.


I remember beating it.  You just had to find all the parts of the phone and then, if I remember you get Elliot to help you call your spaceship and get in.

It was farking boring though.
 
2014-04-14 02:59:46 PM  
I had one of these. It may still be around here somewhere, too.

bimg1.mlstatic.com
And of course I had a bunch of other LCD games from the late 70s and early 80s. Simon, Merlin, Football, Baseball, Mario's Cement Factory, Vanguard, etc.

I've also had Pong, Atari 2600, Atari 7800, Intellivision 2, Colecovision, Odyssey2, Vectrex, Commodore 64, Commodore 128, Amiga 600, Radio Shack Color Computer, TRS-80, TI-99/4A, Timex Sinclair (admitedly awful for games), Sega Master System, TurboGrafx-16, TurboGrafx-CD, TurboDuo, 3DO, NES, NES top-loader, SNES, Genesis, Genesis II (redesigned Genesis), 32X, Dreamcast, Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Pocket, Sega CD, Game Boy Light, Wonderswan, Game Boy Advance, GBA SP, Game Boy Micro, Sega Nomad, TurboExpress, Sega GameGear, Atari Lynx, Atari Jaguar, Virtual Boy, Saturn, Playstation, PSOne, PS2 (all versions), PS3 (launch and redesign), Xbox, Xbox 360 (launch & slim), Dingoo A320, Ouya, GameCube, N64, Wii, Wii-U, and a few others I'm forgetting, as well as various PC gaming rigs I built.

I sold most of them a while ago. I currently only use the Xbox 360, PC, and Dingoo, as well as my tablet and phone.

My favorite handhelds:
* TurboExpress - It played the same HuCards as the console! At the time that was awesome.
* GBA SP - Perfect balance of great library, fun games, compact size, and excellent screen.
* Dingoo A-320 - Emulation paradise for old-school games.

My least-favorite handhelds:
* Sega Nomad - Battery hog. Wouldn't last two hours on fresh batteries.
* Original GBA - AWFUL dark screen, bad form factor, no backlight/frontlight.
* Wonderswan - There was nothing to play on it.

My favorite consoles:
* Atari 2600 - The first system I owned that played multiple games. Pong sucked, and this was a huge improvement. I played the hell out of it.
* Commodore 64 - There was no videogame crash. C64 players were rocking through the 80s with awesome games that made the NES look like crap.
* TurboGrafx-CD - There were some excellent games on the TurboGrafx, and the CD was the first on the market, which gave them some LONG games with great music before anyone else.
* 3DO - Amazing games for the time. Worth it just for the re-released and upgraded Star Control 2.
* PS2 - Amazing library. Truly Sony's best console to date.
* Xbox 360 - I liked my PS3, too, but I've always been partial to the 360's controller and menus.
* Odyssey2 - It was a third-rate console, I know... But Quest For The Rings and KC Munchkin were FUN!
* SNES & Genesis - Together, they made a complete library of great games. I'm glad I had both.

My least favorite consoles:
* Atari Jaguar - Waste of money. Bad games. Awful controller. No support.
* Radio Shack Color Computer - All the expense of the C64, without any of the games!
* Ouya - Severe disappointment. Under-powered and has lots of shiatty games. Controller sucks, too.
* Virtual Boy - Thanks for giving me myopia and headaches, Nintendo, you assholes.
* Sega Saturn - Sub-par games, small library, total disappointment next to its competition.
* Pong - Even in the 70s it was dull. When I finally got my Atari 2600 and a copy of Space Invaders, I never looked at Pong again.
* N64 - I know some of you have warm fuzzy memories of it, but to me it was an outdated system with cartridges in an area of DVDs and that limited the experience severely. It has very few decent games and their release schedule was SLOW. Even the games people claim to love are kind of sucky. WWF No Mercy is not as good as you remember. GoldenEye was crap compared to the stuff on other consoles and computers at the time. This was the beginning of Nintendo losing their edge.
 
2014-04-14 03:00:59 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-14 03:03:54 PM  

under a mountain: theorellior: Kinetic King: Remember Simon? That was in a class of it's own because it had colored buttons that lit up. It would light up the buttons in a random order and then you'd have to press the buttons in the same order--it got dull after about 10 minutes.
My friend and I would have competitions on Simon, but I was never very good. A similar game was Major Morgan, that looked kinda like a brick cellphone but had these red and clear membrane buttons. You could slide a "game card" over them to play different games.
I remeber MErlin which sounds like your description.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x726]
Also wasted a lot of time with the below.
[www.campx.ca image 819x833]


Merlin was awesome - and indestructible.

I had several of the Quiz Wiz books/cartridges, but the snarky 8-track glory of 2XL was much more fun.

retrothing.typepad.com
 
2014-04-14 03:05:15 PM  

Kinetic King: No, it's just that I probably don't waste as much time on Fark or watching TV as you do.


Whatever you'd like us to believe.

/all told, I probably spend about 15 minutes a day on Fark. Possibly less. And I don't watch TV at all, other than one show -- can't stand reality TV, which is what 99.9% of it consists of nowadays. I watch some old movies and TV shows occasionally, but not unduly so.
 
2014-04-14 03:08:30 PM  

Stephen_Falken: [img.fark.net image 600x450]


I'm old enough to remember playing the text version of Oregon Trail.  Yup, played over a teletypewriter connected to a mainframe with an acoustic coupler the size of a shoebox.  When you went to shoot Indians (these were less PC times), you had to type in B-A-N-G as quickly as possible.  And I wore an onion in my belt which was the fashion at the time...
 
2014-04-14 03:08:49 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Pac-Man for Atari pissed me off, I was expecting something similar to well Pac-Man not what ever the hell they shipped.


Here's an albeit-verbal earworm for you:  Boo-Dee-Boo-Dee.  Momp-Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp...

/Hated Atari Pac-Man
//Even Kool-Aid Man was better
 
2014-04-14 03:12:23 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Well, there's also always been issues with recycling anything that's considered intellectual property.


I'm not sure "ET the Video Game can be referred to as Intellectual anything.

/Intellectual Wasteland perhaps?
 
2014-04-14 03:13:45 PM  

MycroftHolmes: Loan Starr: One of my regrets from back then is that I never tinkered with the C-64, other than to play games. From what I've read in later years it was a pretty versatile computer that was capable of quite a bit.

I programmed the heck out of my C-64 in basic.  Never got into the more advanced languages (assembler made my head hurt), and the difficulty in programming hi-res graphics were pretty much limited me to basic.  I do regret not sticking with programming.  Of course I was in maybe 6th grade at the time.


There was a magazine called "Run" back then that had code the reader could use to program the C64.  I learned quite a bit, but still mostly played games.   I was also in about 5th or 6th grade at the time.   I later went on to learn how to do some programming in college and I think those early experiences helped make it less intimidating.  I enjoy programming, but never thought to make it my career.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RUN_%28magazine%29
 
2014-04-14 03:15:40 PM  

gweilo8888: Kinetic King: No, it's just that I probably don't waste as much time on Fark or watching TV as you do.

Whatever you'd like us to believe.


Would you believe I spend more time appearing on TV than watching it?  This is Minuta Slavy, the Russian version of America's Got Talent...

www.lunatim.com
 
2014-04-14 03:17:27 PM  

jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-04-14 03:31:40 PM  
I would buy one of those carts just to say I had the worst video game ever made in my collection.
 
2014-04-14 03:35:07 PM  

clkeagle: under a mountain: theorellior: Kinetic King: Remember Simon? That was in a class of it's own because it had colored buttons that lit up. It would light up the buttons in a random order and then you'd have to press the buttons in the same order--it got dull after about 10 minutes.
My friend and I would have competitions on Simon, but I was never very good. A similar game was Major Morgan, that looked kinda like a brick cellphone but had these red and clear membrane buttons. You could slide a "game card" over them to play different games.
I remeber MErlin which sounds like your description.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x726]
Also wasted a lot of time with the below.
[www.campx.ca image 819x833]

Merlin was awesome - and indestructible.

I had several of the Quiz Wiz books/cartridges, but the snarky 8-track glory of 2XL was much more fun.

[retrothing.typepad.com image 271x350]


You have given me flashbacks.
 
2014-04-14 03:39:38 PM  

steve42: Random Anonymous Blackmail: Pac-Man for Atari pissed me off, I was expecting something similar to well Pac-Man not what ever the hell they shipped.

Here's an albeit-verbal earworm for you:  Boo-Dee-Boo-Dee.  Momp-Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp...

/Hated Atari Pac-Man
//Even Kool-Aid Man was better


It's too bad you didn't have access to Pac-Man 4k for the 2600:
http://youtu.be/_rBu_qvV4uI

Yeah, it's a later homebrew, but it's for 2600, and it just proves that if they'd put any effort or money toward the original version, it would have been awesome. Instead, they just spat out something (tales say they spent 2 weeks on it) and cashed in on the license.
 
2014-04-14 03:41:18 PM  

incrdbil: Atomic Jonb: special20: All I ever used the Atari 2500 for was to CG over video.
My weapon of choice was the most venerable Commodore 64. Favorite game on that was Red Storm Rising.


I hated the TASMs.  They always seemed to get shot down on the targets that needed it most.  A Udaloy?  No problem, TASM always got through.  The KIEV?  Nope, shoot-down, shoot-down, shoot-down.

I loved the higher level settings, where you had to match sonar patterns to the manual to identify ship class.

I loved the hunt the boomer mission, which rapidly turned into a knife fight range game that made you sweat.


...not only having to ID patterns, but knowing how to hide in and under a thermal gradient? The game had it all - and I've yet to see a better sub sim since. I've tried a few...
*pours some vodak on the ground*
 
2014-04-14 03:45:42 PM  

Kinetic King: gweilo8888: Kinetic King: No, it's just that I probably don't waste as much time on Fark or watching TV as you do.

Whatever you'd like us to believe.

Would you believe I spend more time appearing on TV than watching it?  This is Minuta Slavy, the Russian version of America's Got Talent...

[www.lunatim.com image 850x637]


Ha, I see you actually just picked up your name as the Fark handle now.

(since I had your old name highlighted with a tag "Kinetic King").
 
2014-04-14 03:46:10 PM  

Caffeine Induced Diarrhea: First thought I had after reading the article was: why werent these things thrown in a chipper to be recycled?


That's what I thought. But it was 1983, ewaste wasn't as high in the zeitgeist.

If it really is a million copies in one spot it represents enough gold that it's worth taking a couple excavators out for a week.
 
2014-04-14 03:52:37 PM  
DrBrownCow

I still have a box of Run magazines. Loved those. Also did all the sample programs they had in there.
Ran a Color 64 BBS for years. (mainly to trade cracked games and demos). And play Empire City / Master Empire..

Kinetic King
All I can think of looking at your pictures is Mr Bones Wild Ride...
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-04-14 03:53:19 PM  

karmaceutical: Left out the runt of the litter...


Heh. Was 'Runty' any good?
 
2014-04-14 03:57:50 PM  

Derek Force: I still have a box of Run magazines. Loved those. Also did all the sample programs they had in there.


I always put the C-64 mags in order of how good they were:
1. Compute's Gazette
2. RUN
3. Ahoy!

Not sure why, just how I recalled them in my mind.  Probably more that I had more of one than another.
 
2014-04-14 04:01:19 PM  

jst3p: Kinetic King: Gotta admit that the best. game. ever. for me was the Roller Coaster Tycoon series.  I actually won $3985 in contest money designing a coaster for RCT3.  Right now, the only game I really play anymore is the Platinum Edition of RCT3 which makes up for the glitches in the first version of RCT3 and is easily the apotheosis of the RCT series.  It's nearly a decade old, but still kicks the heck out of Farmville.

That won't be for long; I just ordered the complete Civilization IV package (with the 3 add-ons) off of Amazon and should be getting it around the time I return from Germany.  The only thing that sucks about the Civ series is that they kick my ass on all but the easiest settings, but the mind-blowing depth of the game keeps luring me back.

The SimCity series, up until the disastrous release of Sim V, was also a big favorite of mine.  I also loved SSG's Warlords series and wish they would work on a Vista machine.  Finally, it's a good thing I didn't discover Minecraft until too late or else I'd probably be addicted to it...

My favorite game of all time:

[cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com image 600x375]

In my opinion it was amazing, for it's time.


It's available on Steam FYI. Best $8 I've spent all year.
 
2014-04-14 04:01:34 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Why? Terrible as it is it's available on emulator for free and who wants a broken game cartridge that's been buried in a landfill for 30 years?


Because it's history.  The ET landfill itself has become a part of gamer mythology, for lack of a better term.
 
2014-04-14 04:05:05 PM  
Makes me glad I had an Intellivision growing up.
 
2014-04-14 04:05:26 PM  

Hiro-ACiD: jst3p: Kinetic King: Gotta admit that the best. game. ever. for me was the Roller Coaster Tycoon series.  I actually won $3985 in contest money designing a coaster for RCT3.  Right now, the only game I really play anymore is the Platinum Edition of RCT3 which makes up for the glitches in the first version of RCT3 and is easily the apotheosis of the RCT series.  It's nearly a decade old, but still kicks the heck out of Farmville.

That won't be for long; I just ordered the complete Civilization IV package (with the 3 add-ons) off of Amazon and should be getting it around the time I return from Germany.  The only thing that sucks about the Civ series is that they kick my ass on all but the easiest settings, but the mind-blowing depth of the game keeps luring me back.

The SimCity series, up until the disastrous release of Sim V, was also a big favorite of mine.  I also loved SSG's Warlords series and wish they would work on a Vista machine.  Finally, it's a good thing I didn't discover Minecraft until too late or else I'd probably be addicted to it...

My favorite game of all time:

[cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com image 600x375]

In my opinion it was amazing, for it's time.

It's available on Steam FYI. Best $8 I've spent all year.


The remake is pretty good too.

xbox360media.ign.com
 
2014-04-14 04:10:01 PM  

clkeagle: Rapmaster2000: I was so fired up for ET the video game.  I don't think we played it for more than an hour.  It sucked that bad.  Atari's Pac-Man port was garbage too.

Isn't there another landfill somewhere with all the Pac-Man cartridges? If I remember right - by the time Pac-Man was about to hit shelves, they were already set to ship Ms. Pac-Man (which is a great 2600 game). So they did the same thing as ET - dumped all the secondary shipments instead of letting them go to retail.


Actually, the story behind Pac-Man is pretty similar to the story behind ET -- the game was rushed out the door for the holidays, and Atari produced way too many cartridges thinking that the shiatty, botched result would be a major system-seller.  So Atari managed to crash the industry by making the exact same mistake twice.
 
2014-04-14 04:19:53 PM  

kling_klang_bed: *squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.


Bite your tongue, fool! The Ultima series set the standard for RPGs. Would absolutely love to see it back on the market with updated graphics and sound.

ultimacodex.com
 
2014-04-14 04:26:20 PM  
www.trs-80emulators.com
 
2014-04-14 04:27:52 PM  

Kinetic King: Would you believe I spend more time appearing on TV than watching it?  This is Minuta Slavy, the Russian version of America's Got Talent...

[www.lunatim.com image 850x637]


Would you believe you just went down even further in my estimation for having anything to do with the creation of the vapid drivel that is "reality" TV in any country?

/"talent", indeed
 
2014-04-14 04:32:41 PM  

WordyGrrl: Bite your tongue, fool! The Ultima series set the standard for RPGs.


I was assuming it was either a troll or a typo, or he was just confusing the Ultimas with something else.  His later reply confirmed the 'troll' assumption, so... meh, whatever.

Would absolutely love to see it back on the market with updated graphics and sound.

Actually there have been some fan-made reboots (e.g.) but I haven't tried to get any of them running.
 
2014-04-14 04:33:16 PM  
Ah, Zork on the c64, then the 17 or so odd floppy disks for D&D pool of Radiance....

I spliced together the cables for the floppy drive so I coudl have two connected ot the 64..as per the instructions.


There was also a Pegaus Hydrofoil simulation game fo rthe 64 that was pretty interesting.
 
2014-04-14 04:41:52 PM  

dletter: Derek Force: I still have a box of Run magazines. Loved those. Also did all the sample programs they had in there.

I always put the C-64 mags in order of how good they were:
1. Compute's Gazette
2. RUN
3. Ahoy!

Not sure why, just how I recalled them in my mind.  Probably more that I had more of one than another.


No love for the multiplatform ENTER magazine? They had pages of programs for everything from the TRS-80 to VIC-20.
 
2014-04-14 04:42:33 PM  
Remember that H.S.W. had only about 6 weeks to work on the game from conception to final program just so Atari could cash in on the 1982 season. Realizing that, maybe some of you may not think it's really bad after all.

Best interview I saw him say, he made one of the best games (Yars Revenge) and one of the worst (E.T.)
 
2014-04-14 04:43:43 PM  

gweilo8888: Kinetic King: Would you believe I spend more time appearing on TV than watching it?  This is Minuta Slavy, the Russian version of America's Got Talent...

[www.lunatim.com image 850x637]

Would you believe you just went down even further in my estimation for having anything to do with the creation of the vapid drivel that is "reality" TV in any country?

/"talent", indeed


Would you believe that I gave a TED talk last year, helped create a game--Stick Storm--that was sold in stores across Europe and America, and don't really give three hoots about what you think of reality TV or my career?  I did nothing to provoke you into making the personal attacks you've made on me--you're not suffering from 'genius envy'* are you?

*Forgive me, Sigmund Freud.

And for you more positive folks out there, here's another geeky thing I do when I'm not making stick bombs, watching old Buster Keaton comedies, dating the women in my artists' co-op, or playing on the local underwater hockey team (it's co-ed, BTW).  Yes, I create mazes.  Enjoy!

www.lunatim.com
 
2014-04-14 04:54:23 PM  

WordyGrrl: kling_klang_bed: *squinting my eyes, making sure this isn't from I-Mockery*

Oh, there's worse games out there. I vaguely remember playing the ET game as a kid, but Legend Of Kage and any of the Ultima games are even worse, IMHO.

Bite your tongue, fool! The Ultima series set the standard for RPGs. Would absolutely love to see it back on the market with updated graphics and sound.

[ultimacodex.com image 320x200]


Ha, I remember Quest of the Avatar being the earliest memory of beating a game and getting real satisfaction from doing it.

Looking back, though, beating Legend of Kage as a kid probably ought to have been as well.  Tried playing that again on the Wii, Christ that game is frickin' impossible.
 
2014-04-14 04:58:21 PM  

shineyviper: dletter: Derek Force: I still have a box of Run magazines. Loved those. Also did all the sample programs they had in there.

I always put the C-64 mags in order of how good they were:
1. Compute's Gazette
2. RUN
3. Ahoy!

Not sure why, just how I recalled them in my mind.  Probably more that I had more of one than another.

No love for the multiplatform ENTER magazine? They had pages of programs for everything from the TRS-80 to VIC-20.


I wish I knew about ENTER.  I only had one decent game for the Trash-80, Conway's Game of Life.  Otherwise, the Trash-80 made a better doorstop than a computer...
 
2014-04-14 04:59:56 PM  

Kinetic King: shineyviper: dletter: Derek Force: I still have a box of Run magazines. Loved those. Also did all the sample programs they had in there.

I always put the C-64 mags in order of how good they were:
1. Compute's Gazette
2. RUN
3. Ahoy!

Not sure why, just how I recalled them in my mind.  Probably more that I had more of one than another.

No love for the multiplatform ENTER magazine? They had pages of programs for everything from the TRS-80 to VIC-20.

I wish I knew about ENTER.  I only had one decent game for the Trash-80, Conway's Game of Life.  Otherwise, the Trash-80 made a better doorstop than a computer...


I was limiting it to C-64 Specific mags.... otherwise I'd have put in COMPUTE!, etc.

I know there were other C-64 specific mags (especially in the UK)... those 3 seemed to be the Top 3 in the U.S. at the time though, although maybe they are just the 3 I got exposed to.
 
2014-04-14 05:03:03 PM  

dletter: Kinetic King: shineyviper: dletter: Derek Force: I still have a box of Run magazines. Loved those. Also did all the sample programs they had in there.

I always put the C-64 mags in order of how good they were:
1. Compute's Gazette
2. RUN
3. Ahoy!

Not sure why, just how I recalled them in my mind.  Probably more that I had more of one than another.

No love for the multiplatform ENTER magazine? They had pages of programs for everything from the TRS-80 to VIC-20.

I wish I knew about ENTER.  I only had one decent game for the Trash-80, Conway's Game of Life.  Otherwise, the Trash-80 made a better doorstop than a computer...

I was limiting it to C-64 Specific mags.... otherwise I'd have put in COMPUTE!, etc.

I know there were other C-64 specific mags (especially in the UK)... those 3 seemed to be the Top 3 in the U.S. at the time though, although maybe they are just the 3 I got exposed to.


Never had a Commodore myself; it was a bit out of my price range, but I heard good things about them.
 
2014-04-14 05:05:47 PM  

stonicus: [www.trs-80emulators.com image 430x309]


Holy shiat.  That is touching my brain.
 
2014-04-14 05:06:57 PM  

WordyGrrl: Bite your tongue, fool! The Ultima series set the standard for RPGs. Would absolutely love to see it back on the market with updated graphics and sound.


Than you'll be glad to know about this.
 
2014-04-14 05:09:52 PM  
Then even. Here's a demo run.
 
2014-04-14 05:10:57 PM  
Oops, my bad.  Actually, the cheapo $30 dollar computer me and my brother had as kids was a Timex-Sinclair 1000, which was a modified ZX81.  My brother did have a Trash-80 later on, hence my confusion.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Sinclair_1000  Yes, folks, a whopping 2k of memory, bubble keyboard, and underwhelming 44 x 64 pixel graphics.  About the only decent game was Conway's Game of Life.  We did get a 16k expansion module later on and it could play a decent game of chess after that...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-14 05:11:19 PM  

TappingTheVein: WordyGrrl: Bite your tongue, fool! The Ultima series set the standard for RPGs. Would absolutely love to see it back on the market with updated graphics and sound.

Than you'll be glad to know about this.


From their kickstarter page:

GUILT PLEDGE ============================= Thank Lord British and prove your virtue with a $10 donation. If you ever pirated an Ultima game or used an exploit to grief other players in Ultima Online, here's your chance to repent! For your $10 donation you will receive a clear conscience and Lord British's undying gratitude.

That is awesome.
 
2014-04-14 05:13:15 PM  
they've gotta make room for those kinects
 
2014-04-14 05:21:50 PM  

Krymson Tyde: TTBoyArDee: April 26 is my birthday. I got ET for my birthday when I was a wee pup. The expedition begins on my birthday this year. I can't help some sort of circle is complete.

My god, he's the one. SOMEBODY KILL HIM!


No, you idiot. Trying to kill him will only make him rise up and fulfill his destiny. We need to promote him to middle management in an office full of petty women, get his wife hooked on gambling and opiates, and get a pair of middle aged, overweight, nudist, swingers to move next door and have bi-weekly backyard orgies.

Kill his spirit to keep him from being a danger to the dark side. So many aspiring evil tyrants overlook that option.
 
2014-04-14 05:33:03 PM  

Fart_Machine: Uzzah: HypnozombieX: I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.

You never played Adventure?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 480x315]

Or Haunted House which was basically the same game.


No, Raiders of the Lost Ark was simply Haunted House with different sprites.  Adventure was ground breaking for the time, and is probably one of the earliest examples of a well hidden Easter Egg.
Pac-Man and E.T. broke records for how bad they were.  I would rate the Atari version of Donkey Kong right up there, too.  The hype didn't match the 2600 port.  Yet, there were also many amazing titles such as Yar's Revenge, H.E.R.O., Dig Dug, and River Raid.  Activision ended up making the best games for the 2600.  Then again, their core crew were all former Atari employees.
 
2014-04-14 05:36:37 PM  

shineyviper: No love for the multiplatform ENTER magazine? They had pages of programs for everything from the TRS-80 to VIC-20.


I remember ENTER! What's crazy is that it seems almost no one else does.
 
2014-04-14 05:39:36 PM  

steve42: Random Anonymous Blackmail: Pac-Man for Atari pissed me off, I was expecting something similar to well Pac-Man not what ever the hell they shipped.

Here's an albeit-verbal earworm for you:  Boo-Dee-Boo-Dee.  Momp-Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp...

/Hated Atari Pac-Man
//Even Kool-Aid Man was better


Stick your little finger in your ear and wiggle it slowly.  Pac-Man noise.
 
2014-04-14 05:47:46 PM  

Loan Starr: When I was in 5th grade in 1982 I got an Intellivision for Christmas (still probably the best gift I ever received) and I was the hit of the neighborhood.
I remember when Intellivsion came out, and immediately it was uncool to have an Atari.


Only a 5th grader would think that having an Intellivision made having an Atari uncool.

Those pad discs made games like Pac-Man pretty much unplayable. Mattel couldn't license arcade games to save their life either.
 
2014-04-14 05:56:58 PM  

Kinetic King: shineyviper: dletter: Derek Force: I still have a box of Run magazines. Loved those. Also did all the sample programs they had in there.

I always put the C-64 mags in order of how good they were:
1. Compute's Gazette
2. RUN
3. Ahoy!

Not sure why, just how I recalled them in my mind.  Probably more that I had more of one than another.

No love for the multiplatform ENTER magazine? They had pages of programs for everything from the TRS-80 to VIC-20.

I wish I knew about ENTER.  I only had one decent game for the Trash-80, Conway's Game of Life.  Otherwise, the Trash-80 made a better doorstop than a computer...



We had  three Trash 80s when I was in 7th grade, the "best one" having dual disk drives, a tape player, and a farked up printer.  Some of us, with nothing better to do, spent days (as in several hours, after school) in teams, reading code while another person typed line by line.

The two games we were able to get working were "Titan" and "Killer Cars".

Those efforts were a true testament to the rewards of labor.
 
2014-04-14 06:03:40 PM  

Kinetic King: Would you believe that I gave a TED talk last year, helped create a game--Stick Storm--that was sold in stores across Europe and America, and don't really give three hoots about what you think of reality TV or my career?  I did nothing to provoke you into making the personal attacks you've made on me--you're not suffering from 'genius envy'* are you?


To suffer from genius envy, I'd need to believe you to be a genius, rather than a braggart who's most likely making up everything he says.

/btw, [welcometofark.jpg]
 
2014-04-14 06:06:54 PM  

Gary-L: We had  three Trash 80s when I was in 7th grade, the "best one" having dual disk drives, a tape player, and a farked up printer.  Some of us, with nothing better to do, spent days (as in several hours, after school) in teams, reading code while another person typed line by line.

The two games we were able to get working were "Titan" and "Killer Cars".

Those efforts were a true testament to the rewards of labor.


I can relate.  We had a few Apple IIe computers when I got to high school and I spent as much time on them as possible.  Didn't do much in the way of actually typing in code from magazines, though.  The Apples had 5-1/2" floppies, but I vaguely remember a computer my brother had got programs off of--I kid you not--a cassette tape.

I mostly stuck to writing programs that would do simple graphics while my brother--the computer genius--was the one who got into all the PEEK and POKE commands in Apple BASIC that had the real computing power...
 
2014-04-14 06:13:11 PM  

peterthx: Loan Starr: When I was in 5th grade in 1982 I got an Intellivision for Christmas (still probably the best gift I ever received) and I was the hit of the neighborhood.
I remember when Intellivsion came out, and immediately it was uncool to have an Atari.

Only a 5th grader would think that having an Intellivision made having an Atari uncool.

Those pad discs made games like Pac-Man pretty much unplayable. Mattel couldn't license arcade games to save their life either.


Sounds like someone was mad that they didn't get an intellivision as a kid. Only pissed 5th grader sour grapes could ever diminish the impact or quality of those Mattel games had on the aging 2600
 
2014-04-14 06:13:34 PM  

gweilo8888: Kinetic King: Would you believe that I gave a TED talk last year, helped create a game--Stick Storm--that was sold in stores across Europe and America, and don't really give three hoots about what you think of reality TV or my career?  I did nothing to provoke you into making the personal attacks you've made on me--you're not suffering from 'genius envy'* are you?

To suffer from genius envy, I'd need to believe you to be a genius, rather than a braggart who's most likely making up everything he says.

/btw, [welcometofark.jpg]


Well, you obviously have issues of some sort since you started ripping on my for no reason whatsoever.  I get the feeling that you're a permanently disgruntled* person.  And the only reason I mentioned that I was going to Munich and appeared on TV was in defense of your assertion that I was a basement dweller.  Seriously, grow up.

*Is there such thing as being 'gruntled'?
 
2014-04-14 06:17:37 PM  

MylesHeartVodak: steve42: Random Anonymous Blackmail: Pac-Man for Atari pissed me off, I was expecting something similar to well Pac-Man not what ever the hell they shipped.

Here's an albeit-verbal earworm for you:  Boo-Dee-Boo-Dee.  Momp-Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp...

/Hated Atari Pac-Man
//Even Kool-Aid Man was better

Stick your little finger in your ear and wiggle it slowly.  Pac-Man noise.


That is actually creepy how accurate that is.
 
2014-04-14 06:20:24 PM  

MylesHeartVodak: Stick your little finger in your ear and wiggle it slowly.  Pac-Man noise.


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-04-14 06:23:56 PM  

MycroftHolmes: MylesHeartVodak: steve42: Random Anonymous Blackmail: Pac-Man for Atari pissed me off, I was expecting something similar to well Pac-Man not what ever the hell they shipped.

Here's an albeit-verbal earworm for you:  Boo-Dee-Boo-Dee.  Momp-Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp- Momp...

/Hated Atari Pac-Man
//Even Kool-Aid Man was better

Stick your little finger in your ear and wiggle it slowly.  Pac-Man noise.

That is actually creepy how accurate that is.


I dunno.  I thought the Atari version of Pac Man sounded like a taut rubber band being plucked.  Quite a bit different from the "wokka wokka" sound of the arcade version.
 
2014-04-14 06:38:50 PM  
Miss my Colecovision.

www.colecoboxart.com

/not really
//hall monsters!!
 
2014-04-14 06:42:21 PM  

Kinetic King: Well, you obviously have issues of some sort since you started ripping on my for no reason whatsoever.


Well you're obviously new to Fark, if you're new to snark. (And if you believe everything here is serious.)
 
2014-04-14 06:44:09 PM  

WordsnCollision: Miss my Colecovision.

[www.colecoboxart.com image 400x476]

/not really
//hall monsters!!


Venture is one of my favorite early 80s arcade video games... nothing complex, but, a fun game.
 
2014-04-14 07:16:28 PM  
Ivan the Tolerable:
Sounds like someone was mad that they didn't get an intellivision as a kid. Only pissed 5th grader sour grapes could ever diminish the impact or quality of those Mattel games had on the aging 2600

Uh, no. We could have had one. We chose to get an Atari 800 computer instead.

/Intellivision was the Mac to Atari's PC.
//complete with whatever the early-'80s version of hipsters were called fawning over it
 
2014-04-14 07:16:56 PM  
Didn't they crush them all before dumping them? Even if they didn't, after 30 years buried in a landfill I can't imagine any would be in usable condition.

For those who really want to play that turd of a game, it's widely available for emulators and making repro cartridges is easy.
 
2014-04-14 07:20:24 PM  
I was barely old enough to remember when ET came out.

//Still hate that movie 30 years later.
 
2014-04-14 07:20:37 PM  

Kinetic King: Anybody else remember Missile Command?  IIRC, the Atari 2600 version was almost as good as the arcade version.  It was a very grim game in which you tried to prevent six cities from getting nuked by firing anti-missile missiles at incoming ICBMs.  But what would you expect of a video game that came out while the Cold War was still raging?


The console version was not even close to the arcade version. Playing it with a joystick was almost impossible compared to the trackball on the arcade machine.

My friend had a clone of it on his Mac in the 90s that was very close, except it was B&W.
 
2014-04-14 07:22:29 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: I was barely old enough to remember when ET came out.

//Still hate that movie 30 years later.


I remember when it came out. My family rented the VHS and watched it, we all thought it was terrible. I'm not even sure why I dislike it so much but to this day I still hate it.
 
2014-04-14 07:23:05 PM  

James10952001: Didn't they crush them all before dumping them? Even if they didn't, after 30 years buried in a landfill I can't imagine any would be in usable condition.

For those who really want to play that turd of a game, it's widely available for emulators and making repro cartridges is easy.


Obviously this has nothing to do with trying to "play the game"... it is more of just a retro "hey, lets do it" thing.
 
2014-04-14 07:23:36 PM  

sendtodave: FatherChaos: [s3.amazonaws.com image 200x200]

In the author's case, "the worst game I've ever played, so it only applies to my opinion and is not a universal standard"

E.T. was bad, but there are worse.  MUCH worse.

No, the author is stating fact.  It is literally the worst game ever.

Your opinion doesn't change the fact of the matter.


http://www.somethingawful.com/game-reviews/

Even a casual glance through that list brings out several which are astronomically worse than E.T., completely lacking plot, gameplay, win conditions, on and on and on.
 
2014-04-14 07:26:08 PM  

James10952001: Ow! That was my feelings!: I was barely old enough to remember when ET came out.

//Still hate that movie 30 years later.

I remember when it came out. My family rented the VHS and watched it, we all thought it was terrible. I'm not even sure why I dislike it so much but to this day I still hate it.


I didn't catch ET until well after it had been in the theaters for a while, but was still drawing people.  So, while visiting a friend that summer, we decided to catch it after his brother, sister, and mother were in total shock that I hadn't seen it yet.

Afterward, his sister about blew a gasket when I said I didn't like it.  She tells her mom, and mom summarily argues with me that "You did like it".

Uh, no, it was stupid.

Stop saying that.  It was a great movie and you know you liked it.

(Under my breath) It sucked.
 
2014-04-14 07:34:07 PM  

James10952001: Ow! That was my feelings!: I was barely old enough to remember when ET came out.

//Still hate that movie 30 years later.

I remember when it came out. My family rented the VHS and watched it, we all thought it was terrible. I'm not even sure why I dislike it so much but to this day I still hate it.


It's extreme success (see also...Titantic). Meh becomes hate when mixed with popularity.
 
2014-04-14 07:34:46 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: James10952001: Ow! That was my feelings!: I was barely old enough to remember when ET came out.

//Still hate that movie 30 years later.

I remember when it came out. My family rented the VHS and watched it, we all thought it was terrible. I'm not even sure why I dislike it so much but to this day I still hate it.

It's extreme success (see also...Titantic). Meh becomes hate when mixed with popularity.


*Its
 
2014-04-14 07:38:35 PM  

yukichigai: sendtodave: FatherChaos: [s3.amazonaws.com image 200x200]

In the author's case, "the worst game I've ever played, so it only applies to my opinion and is not a universal standard"

E.T. was bad, but there are worse.  MUCH worse.

No, the author is stating fact.  It is literally the worst game ever.

Your opinion doesn't change the fact of the matter.

http://www.somethingawful.com/game-reviews/

Even a casual glance through that list brings out several which are astronomically worse than E.T., completely lacking plot, gameplay, win conditions, on and on and on.


I am going to repeat what I said again, because it is WHY E.T. and Pac Man get mentioned in this way.....

What makes E.T. (and the 2600 Pac Man) get some of the brunt of being the "Worst Ever" is not that they were the absolute "worst", but, they had EXTREMELY high expectations and debuts, and were tied to the biggest movie of all time at the time, and the biggest arcade game at the time.

Yeah, a bunch of 3rd rate developers put out much crappier games than E.T. and Pac Man... but, not many people bought them, and they didn't get that much attention at the time.   E.T. and Pac Man had HUGE spotlights on their debut's, and they did not deliver on the hype of the releases.  Which was proven by Ms. Pac Man for 2600.... if that had been the Pac Man release (minus the Ms Pac additions), that would have been a much better reception.   E.T.'s issues was mostly gameplay issues with how it was coded, vs. the overly crude display issues with Pac Man.

As far as comparing it to "worst games of 2007", that is hard to even compare.... and nobody is really trying to compare them.   E.T. and Pac Man were just really bad "major" releases of the early 80s, that led to what is termed the "Video Game Crash of 1983", and they are fairly reflected in that way in video game history.   Just like anything, putting "Worst video game ever game" on something is going to be subjective, just like "Best baseball player" ever, or "Worst movie ever".
 
2014-04-14 07:54:37 PM  

James10952001: I remember when it came out. My family rented the VHS and watched it, we all thought it was terrible. I'm not even sure why I dislike it so much but to this day I still hate it.


It's a very manipulative movie on the primal fears of children being left behind by their caregivers. My younger brother freaked out in the movie theatre when ET died and my mother had to take him outside for him to chill out. You might be picking up on some of that.
 
2014-04-14 08:33:40 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: James10952001: Ow! That was my feelings!: I was barely old enough to remember when ET came out.

//Still hate that movie 30 years later.

I remember when it came out. My family rented the VHS and watched it, we all thought it was terrible. I'm not even sure why I dislike it so much but to this day I still hate it.

It's extreme success (see also...Titantic). Meh becomes hate when mixed with popularity.


I was just a little kid though, I didn't know anything about its success. I'd heard it was "good" but that's about it.
 
2014-04-14 08:36:05 PM  

WordsnCollision: jake_lex: You might be inclined to think that the ET video game isn't actually as the reputation it has gotten would lead you believe. That we're just sort of lookigna t it through the prism of today's games, and if you look at it on its own terms, compared to Atari 2600 games of the time, it's not so bad.

You'd be wrong. It was a piece of shiat even by 1982 standards. I remember my parents bought it for me because I loved the movie E.T. It was my first taste of truly bitter disappointment, the first lesson that something you really want might turn out to be crap after all.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x513]


Gahan was way ahead of his time.
 
2014-04-14 08:51:12 PM  

James10952001: Ow! That was my feelings!: I was barely old enough to remember when ET came out.
//Still hate that movie 30 years later.
I remember when it came out. My family rented the VHS and watched it, we all thought it was terrible. I'm not even sure why I dislike it so much but to this day I still hate it.


My first time attempting to see it was a double feature at the drive-in with the He-Man/She-Ra movie. Fell asleep five minutes into it. I think it gave me some kind of subconscious block for the movie.. because I was never able to sit through it any time I tried watching after tha tnight.


WordsnCollision: Miss my Colecovision.
[www.colecoboxart.com image 400x476]
/not really
//hall monsters!!


Excellent game - i had the 2600 port.


MylesHeartVodak: Yet, there were also many amazing titles such as Yar's Revenge, H.E.R.O., Dig Dug, and River Raid.  Activision ended up making the best games for the 2600.  Then again, their core crew were all former Atari employees.


Imagic did a good job too. Played Subterranea and Demon Attack as often as I did Pitfall and River Raid.
 
2014-04-14 08:56:55 PM  
Northridge Mall
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Radio Shack
Apple 2E

GORGON

I Win the Internets
 
2014-04-14 08:58:05 PM  

clkeagle: James10952001: Ow! That was my feelings!: I was barely old enough to remember when ET came out.
//Still hate that movie 30 years later.
I remember when it came out. My family rented the VHS and watched it, we all thought it was terrible. I'm not even sure why I dislike it so much but to this day I still hate it.

My first time attempting to see it was a double feature at the drive-in with the He-Man/She-Ra movie. Fell asleep five minutes into it. I think it gave me some kind of subconscious block for the movie.. because I was never able to sit through it any time I tried watching after tha tnight.


WordsnCollision: Miss my Colecovision.
[www.colecoboxart.com image 400x476]
/not really
//hall monsters!!

Excellent game - i had the 2600 port.


MylesHeartVodak: Yet, there were also many amazing titles such as Yar's Revenge, H.E.R.O., Dig Dug, and River Raid.  Activision ended up making the best games for the 2600.  Then again, their core crew were all former Atari employees.

Imagic did a good job too. Played Subterranea and Demon Attack as often as I did Pitfall and River Raid.


Activision app for Android has both Demon Attack and H.E.R.O..... good stuff.
 
2014-04-14 09:44:45 PM  

MylesHeartVodak: No, Raiders of the Lost Ark was simply Haunted House with different sprites.


?
www.theultimategamer.com
www.mobygames.com

Seems legit.

Loan Starr: When I was in 5th grade in 1982 I got an Intellivision for Christmas (still probably the best gift I ever received) and I was the hit of the neighborhood. Space Battle, Space Armada, Astro Smash, Utopia, Night Stalker, Micro Surgeon, Armor Battle, Pitfall, you name it. I loved those games. Then in 1984 my friend got a Coleco Vision and we all sat around playing Pole Position nonstop and forgot about the previous consoles.


Pole Position was never released for Colecovision.  The Intellivsion nor the Coleco ever replaced the 2600 because they never had wide adoption.  Intellivsion sold 3 million consoles, Coleco 2.  2600?  30 million.
 
2014-04-14 09:49:13 PM  

mjbok: Pole Position was never released for Colecovision.  The Intellivsion nor the Coleco ever replaced the 2600 because they never had wide adoption.  Intellivsion sold 3 million consoles, Coleco 2.  2600?  30 million.


He was probably thinking of Turbo or Pitstop.
 
2014-04-14 09:57:48 PM  

dletter: He was probably thinking of Turbo or Pitstop.


Probably.  I believe Pole Position was made by Atari, or at least licensed by them and had a lock on that property for that generation.
 
2014-04-14 10:51:12 PM  

Ambitwistor: MylesHeartVodak: Stick your little finger in your ear and wiggle it slowly.  Pac-Man noise.

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 450x268]


+

Seriously!

So, uh....what's like the best version of Pac-Man to play on Windows 7?

wabumwabumwabumwabumwabum
 
2014-04-14 11:10:50 PM  

Uzzah: HypnozombieX: I think it was the only Objective based Atari game I played. Everything else just went on and on running up a score.

You never played Adventure?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 480x315]


I played Adventure. I never did figure out what the fark the point was. I'm a duck. I think? I'll grab this key and shove it into a castle. Everything flashes. Sound effects - bomp bomp bomp bomp! Do it all again. Hey you know what? fark this, let's get out your electronics experiment kit and build an AM radio.
 
2014-04-14 11:27:22 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: I played Adventure. I never did figure out what the fark the point was. I'm a duck. I think? I'll grab this key and shove it into a castle. Everything flashes.


Get the chalice to the Golden Castle.  The ducks were the dragons.  You were the dot.
 
2014-04-15 07:20:28 AM  
Adventure 3D!

o.onionstatic.com
 
2014-04-15 07:30:23 AM  

yukichigai: completely lacking plot, gameplay, win conditions, on and on and on.


So...pretty much every game made in the last ten or fifteen years then?
Got it, thanks for the info.
 
2014-04-15 08:00:11 AM  

theorellior: James10952001: I remember when it came out. My family rented the VHS and watched it, we all thought it was terrible. I'm not even sure why I dislike it so much but to this day I still hate it.

It's a very manipulative movie on the primal fears of children being left behind by their caregivers. My younger brother freaked out in the movie theatre when ET died and my mother had to take him outside for him to chill out. You might be picking up on some of that.


Spoiler alert!
 
2014-04-15 09:03:39 AM  

mjbok: Fuggin Bizzy: I played Adventure. I never did figure out what the fark the point was. I'm a duck. I think? I'll grab this key and shove it into a castle. Everything flashes.

Get the chalice to the Golden Castle.  The ducks were the dragons.  You were the dot.


Ah? Well now I feel like Grandpa Simpson. No wonder it didn't make sense.

/Wait...aren't the pitcher and the batter on the same team?
 
2014-04-15 11:37:57 AM  

TaskMan: Little CSB-



I feel the same way about Carrier Command on the Atari ST.  I seem to be one of the few people where the message "The enemy carrier has run aground, continue playing for points?" has been displayed; it shouldn't EVER be displayed, the AI carrier basically floats on to islands to capture them it can not run aground.

Yet just once it did.
 
2014-04-15 12:06:43 PM  
*deep sniff*

Stinks like the 80s in here.

/is from the one decade that mattered
//the 90s
 
2014-04-15 12:09:29 PM  

Marine1: /is from the one decade that mattered
//the 90s


They mattered because they sucked?
 
2014-04-15 02:20:58 PM  

mjbok: dletter: He was probably thinking of Turbo or Pitstop.

Probably.  I believe Pole Position was made by Atari, or at least licensed by them and had a lock on that property for that generation.


It was developed by Namco and licensed by Atari.
 
2014-04-15 02:22:10 PM  

White_Scarf_Syndrome: Ambitwistor: MylesHeartVodak: Stick your little finger in your ear and wiggle it slowly.  Pac-Man noise.

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 450x268]

+

Seriously!

So, uh....what's like the best version of Pac-Man to play on Windows 7?

wabumwabumwabumwabumwabum


Grab MAME and the PacMan rom set and you can play the real deal.
 
2014-04-15 02:25:57 PM  

peterthx: Marine1: /is from the one decade that mattered
//the 90s

They mattered because they sucked?


The 90s weren't so bad, highschool and such. The 80s definitely had better console games IMO. In the 90s I was mostly playing PC games, wolfenstein 3d and later Doom. Find the chainsaw, aw yeah.
 
2014-04-15 03:02:28 PM  

peterthx: Marine1: /is from the one decade that mattered
//the 90s

They mattered because they sucked?


That's a crud rock! It BELONGS in crud town! *struggles in vain to move the crud rock*
 
2014-04-15 07:15:10 PM  

TappingTheVein: WordyGrrl: Bite your tongue, fool! The Ultima series set the standard for RPGs. Would absolutely love to see it back on the market with updated graphics and sound.

Than you'll be glad to know about this.


Woo hoo! Thanks! I'll be looking for it.
 
2014-04-15 10:52:23 PM  

dletter: clkeagle: James10952001: Ow! That was my feelings!: I was barely old enough to remember when ET came out.
//Still hate that movie 30 years later.
I remember when it came out. My family rented the VHS and watched it, we all thought it was terrible. I'm not even sure why I dislike it so much but to this day I still hate it.

My first time attempting to see it was a double feature at the drive-in with the He-Man/She-Ra movie. Fell asleep five minutes into it. I think it gave me some kind of subconscious block for the movie.. because I was never able to sit through it any time I tried watching after tha tnight.


WordsnCollision: Miss my Colecovision.
[www.colecoboxart.com image 400x476]
/not really
//hall monsters!!

Excellent game - i had the 2600 port.


MylesHeartVodak: Yet, there were also many amazing titles such as Yar's Revenge, H.E.R.O., Dig Dug, and River Raid.  Activision ended up making the best games for the 2600.  Then again, their core crew were all former Atari employees.

Imagic did a good job too. Played Subterranea and Demon Attack as often as I did Pitfall and River Raid.

Activision app for Android has both Demon Attack and H.E.R.O..... good stuff.

Demon Attack

!  I have been racking my brain trying to remember that title.  Thanks!  That was an awesome game and I could not remember it to include in my short list.
 
2014-04-15 10:58:34 PM  
Post Script:  A modern remake of H.E.R.O. would be freaking awesome.  Although, I guess the H.E.V. suit in Half-Life comes pretty close, minus the jet pack.
 
2014-04-15 11:00:28 PM  
whispers, "Hey, Gabe are you out there?  Are you listening?"
 
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