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2014-04-13 10:39:05 PM
My last, entirely poignant comment regarding the significance of the Lord and his Father in creation of the universe was summarily dispatched with by atheist Fark mods. I am nonplussed yet resolute!
 
2014-04-13 10:40:43 PM

crypticsatellite: farkingismybusiness: [i.imgur.com image 500x399]
Let's get it on...

Someone actually took the time to paint that.


With one hand, yet.
 
2014-04-13 10:44:47 PM

Dimensio: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 397x335]

Crystalline structures may be simplistic, but they can nonetheless be very dangerous.


Shut up, you ugly bag of mostly water.

/Yes, I know it was a different episode.
 
2014-04-13 10:46:16 PM

crypticsatellite: Tonight's rules:


Any jackass who makes people post his name with 'deGrasse' in the middle can fark right off.  Nobody cares about your goddamn middle name in the first place, loser.  Nobody cares even more if your name reminds us of the French, which we all hate.  And if you capitalize a letter in the middle of your name that nobody wanted to know in the first place, I will make it my mission in life to <redacted>.
 
2014-04-13 10:46:47 PM

hotrod2001: Isn't Cosmos basically NOVA for a broader audience who has never watched PBS since their Sesame Street days?


It is kinda like a scraper for every NOVA since my Sesame Street days - which is a fair bit.  Can't say as I mind - the show airs on Fox at Sunday nite trailer park prime-time, (..which is at least small repayment for inflicting Bill O'Reilly on us from Fox News), thus getting to the audience that is perhaps in most profound need of it - think you know what God knows?  Take a look at this, then try'n claim ya have even the slightest clue as to what God's will or "intelligent design" was actually meant to design.

And makes a nifty drinking game for everyone else.

And Neil DeGrasse Tyson is very cool too - kinda what one might expect if the BBC ever cast an American African ethnic as Doctor Who.
 
2014-04-13 10:47:37 PM
They missed a golden opportunity to troll the fundies.

They could have had the boy give the lilacs to another boy.
 
2014-04-13 10:51:36 PM

AurizenDarkstar: IronTom: Believers in the Big Bang are like Science fundies.   But what if the Big Bang never happened, just a continuum from something smaller, and what if the whole flipping Universe did not pop out of a big ol' Bang wa ball.  Maybe just a part of the universe, a local clump popped out of a local expansion.

Or maybe it is more awesome than we can imagine, and the BB just sort of explains it for now.

That's what I think is probably going to come about with the formation of our universe, actually.  That it's more than just a pinpoint at the beginning of time & space, and it came from 'somewhere else', that we can't see.  There are SO many competing theories going around now about it that it's completely mind boggling to contemplate.


It's funny cos it's racist!! Hahahaaa
 
2014-04-13 10:55:42 PM

WhyteRaven74: a trillionth, of a trillionth, of a trillionth, .000000000000000000000000000000000001


1x10E-36 how close we can get to the big bang event
1x10E-30 seconds = end of inflation
1x10E-43 seconds = beginning of inflation (planck time)

So we still need to get 10 million times closer in time (difference between 1x10E-43 and 1x10E-36 in exponential distance) to "see" the actual event that started the whole thing.

Also, with that newest inflation finding, the universe expanded from 1 planck length (1x10E-35 Meters) to the size of a grapefruit/softball in the time frame of 10 trillionths of a second.  Essentially the potential energy of 1 planck length (1x10E+19 proton masses) was transferred from potential energy to matter/energy/space/time in that same 10 trillionths of that first second of the universe's existance (from 1x10E-43 to 1x10E-30), and from there distributed to form the universe we see today.

So now the scientists are theorizing/debating over what happenend in that last 10 millionths of a second, and of course what the cause for that planck length to go from its potential energy state to the released state of matter/energy/space/time that makes up our universe today. Also they are debating whether or not other planck lengths have gone through the same release to produce a potential multiverse scenario where 1x10E+500 varieties of universe could be expanding in their own special ways.
 
2014-04-13 10:56:59 PM

dugitman: Dimensio: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 397x335]

Crystalline structures may be simplistic, but they can nonetheless be very dangerous.

Ladies and gentlemen-- The Larch


And that danger is exactly why one should learn how not to be seen.
 
2014-04-13 10:59:54 PM
IrishBlunder: ... if the BBC ever cast an American African ...

Wouldn't that be a European-African-American?

/Or maybe just a Brit?
 
2014-04-13 11:00:34 PM

dugitman: abhorrent1: Watching for the first time tonight and finding it quite boring. Though I find NDT quite boring in general.

Whippets, dude


3.bp.blogspot.com

Whippets good.
 
2014-04-13 11:09:14 PM
I was surprised to find out the other day that Seth MacFarlane is an executive producer on this.
 
2014-04-13 11:29:06 PM

Johnny Texas: I was surprised to find out the other day that Seth MacFarlane is an executive producer on this.


This almost makes up for all his cartoon crap.
 
2014-04-13 11:43:40 PM

geom_00: Sometimes I look up, and just say: Would betelgeuse PLEASE go Supernova already....

/Yes, I know it already has, and we haven't seen it yet.


Not necessarily... in fact probably not. The end stage of its life is estimated to be about a million years. The star itself only lies about 640 light years away.

So, it's probably still chugging along.

/yeah I'd love to see it too
//not gonna happen
 
2014-04-13 11:45:01 PM

geom_00: IT'S A TRAP!!

Also...did he REALLY just put his HAND INTO DISTILLED WATER?!!?


Water?  You mean, like, from the toilet?
 
2014-04-13 11:59:17 PM

picodenico: Whoa.

Trillionth of a trillion of a trillionth.

That's gotta be like drinking a full f*cking keg right there.


It really is, for homeopathy.
 
2014-04-14 12:18:55 AM

IronTom: Believers in the Big Bang are like Science fundies.   But what if the Big Bang never happened, just a continuum from something smaller, and what if the whole flipping Universe did not pop out of a big ol' Bang wa ball.  Maybe just a part of the universe, a local clump popped out of a local expansion.

Or maybe it is more awesome than we can imagine, and the BB just sort of explains it for now.

Something

unequivocally happened - something big enough to have resulted in absolutely everything we can observe. Regardless of whatever else may have led up to it or lie beyond it, it surely deserves to be called a Big Bang from this side of it.

Have patience - we're doing forensics on a 13-billion-year-old event, and we've had less than a century where we've had any sort of grasp of the event at all, and we've only been able to observe it from one relatively tiny vantage point.
 
2014-04-14 12:26:41 AM

syrynxx: crypticsatellite: Tonight's rules:

Any jackass who makes people post his name with 'deGrasse' in the middle can fark right off.  Nobody cares about your goddamn middle name in the first place, loser.  Nobody cares even more if your name reminds us of the French, which we all hate.  And if you capitalize a letter in the middle of your name that nobody wanted to know in the first place, I will make it my mission in life to <redacted>.


www.laweekly.com

Frowns on your shenanigans.
 
2014-04-14 12:33:39 AM
I'm reading this thread on a weird three hour time delay.  It's kind of amusing.
 
2014-04-14 12:37:40 AM

Massagonist: IrishBlunder: ... if the BBC ever cast an American African ...

Wouldn't that be a European-African-American?

/Or maybe just a Brit?


What do you mean?  African or European?
 
2014-04-14 12:48:38 AM
What channel is it on?
 
2014-04-14 12:59:46 AM

hjy6: What channel is it on?


Fox.  Or for reruns, National Geographic.  Or online.
 
2014-04-14 01:12:13 AM

Empty H: Johnny Texas: I was surprised to find out the other day that Seth MacFarlane is an executive producer on this.

This almost makes up for all his cartoon crap.


Just wait 'til Neil fights a giant chicken in episode 9.
 
2014-04-14 01:13:40 AM

sirrerun: Empty H: Johnny Texas: I was surprised to find out the other day that Seth MacFarlane is an executive producer on this.

This almost makes up for all his cartoon crap.

Just wait 'til Neil fights a giant chicken in episode 9.


The last episode is actually nothing but Conway Twitty.
 
2014-04-14 01:16:11 AM

Empty H: Johnny Texas: I was surprised to find out the other day that Seth MacFarlane is an executive producer on this.

This almost makes up for all his cartoon crap.


He's said that he wanted to do something worthwhile with the money that came from all of the cartoon crap (not in those words, of course). It was either in an interview several weeks ago on The Daily Show or an article I saw linked on FARK, or both.

Surprised the heck out of me - I never would've guessed that he would be the one to finally put something intelligent on Fox.
 
2014-04-14 01:23:06 AM

cyberspacedout: Empty H: Johnny Texas: I was surprised to find out the other day that Seth MacFarlane is an executive producer on this.

This almost makes up for all his cartoon crap.

He's said that he wanted to do something worthwhile with the money that came from all of the cartoon crap (not in those words, of course). It was either in an interview several weeks ago on The Daily Show or an article I saw linked on FARK, or both.

Surprised the heck out of me - I never would've guessed that he would be the one to finally put something intelligent on Fox.


I had heard that as well. I think it is great he is trying to do some good.
 
2014-04-14 01:54:24 AM
Now, that presents a minor problem for the movie Sunshine. When Scarecrow, Captain America, and Moria McTaggert fix the Sun by blowing up the Q-ball that fell into it, it would take 10 million years before the "fix" to work its way through the Sun  so the Earth would die anyway.
 
2014-04-14 05:36:51 AM
It's OK, the cartoon stuff has put me off though. At least in the 1st series they used live action portraying the older story times. If PBS could have afforded that then, why not Fox's bigger pockets now? Did they blow the production budget on CGI, MacFarlane, Tyson and Star Trek guy Brannon Braga? Tyson is an excellent teacher though, I'll give it that. Still watching, just not as impressed as I had hoped for. I have the original Sagan series thanks to Usenet. I was much more Impressed with "How the Universe Works" but just the 1st season narrated by Mike Rowe. You gotta admit Mike has a heck of a voice and he's a Regular Guy despite what some people think of the Wal-Mart commercial. I bought that DVD set, didn't care for the follow up season they had someone else narrate. That's just my 2 cents.
 
2014-04-14 08:34:41 AM

Empty H: cyberspacedout: Empty H: Johnny Texas: I was surprised to find out the other day that Seth MacFarlane is an executive producer on this.

This almost makes up for all his cartoon crap.

He's said that he wanted to do something worthwhile with the money that came from all of the cartoon crap (not in those words, of course). It was either in an interview several weeks ago on The Daily Show or an article I saw linked on FARK, or both.

Surprised the heck out of me - I never would've guessed that he would be the one to finally put something intelligent on Fox.

I had heard that as well. I think it is great he is trying to do some good.


I think his album is pretty good.
 
2014-04-14 09:23:13 AM

Vlad_the_Inaner: You mean Nelson Mandela?

[www.theblaze.com image 600x600]


That's so fascinating.  Does anyone know if that was photoshopped or not?  I'm more than a little curious.
 
2014-04-14 10:09:08 AM

ciberido: syrynxx: crypticsatellite: Tonight's rules:

Any jackass who makes people post his name with 'deGrasse' in the middle can fark right off.  Nobody cares about your goddamn middle name in the first place, loser.  Nobody cares even more if your name reminds us of the French, which we all hate.  And if you capitalize a letter in the middle of your name that nobody wanted to know in the first place, I will make it my mission in life to <redacted>.



Frowns on your shenanigans.


Was glad to hear the courts finally gave that clown his just desserts.
 
2014-04-14 10:30:44 AM

farkingismybusiness: [i.imgur.com image 500x399]
Let's get it on...


I don't think it was Sagan's lips Tyson was touching in Ithaca back in '75.
 
2014-04-14 10:33:21 AM

shanrick: I really like the guy who hosts this show, Samuel L Jackson.


Waiting for "Samuel L. Jackson's Wormhole"
 
2014-04-14 10:35:47 AM

crypticsatellite: That fart you just sniffed? Billions of poo molecules in your nose.


Galileo re-farted that fart. It's be recycled so many times. Hitler, too. You smelled Hitler's farts. Just now.

/Science
 
2014-04-14 10:37:39 AM
Here's the appropriate galaxy-class wine glass for this game.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-14 10:52:49 AM
I am an old fart.  I remember the original Cosmos very well.

What I find disturbing is that there was a greater acceptance of science decades ago than now.  The amount of Creationist-Christian-Crazy that this series is generating 25 years after the original is depressing.

There is much more religious nuttery squawking and whinging than last time around.

Is that because it was "hidden" from religious ignorance on PBS?  No. I don't think so.

Their indignation is evidence our society and culture are going backwards.
 
2014-04-14 10:55:01 AM

Grote-Man: shanrick: I really like the guy who hosts this show, Samuel L Jackson.

Wait. I thought Laurence Fishburn hosted it...


I prefer Samuel L. Jackson....

Say the universe is 6000-years old one more time?
 
2014-04-14 10:57:20 AM

TheBlackFlag: Their indignation is evidence our society and culture are going backwards.


No, it's evidence that the internet has provided an environment where nutjobs can congregate and reinforce each other's views.

The minority has always been there, they're just more vocal now.
 
2014-04-14 12:06:07 PM

grumpfuff: TheBlackFlag: Their indignation is evidence our society and culture are going backwards.

No, it's evidence that the internet has provided an environment where nutjobs can congregate and reinforce each other's views.

The minority has always been there, they're just more vocal now.


I really hope you are right, but it doesn't seem to be restricted to the internet.  And the producers of the new series have really dumbed-down the science.  It is still really interesting and I am glad to be watching it.
 
2014-04-14 12:10:30 PM

TheBlackFlag: grumpfuff: TheBlackFlag: Their indignation is evidence our society and culture are going backwards.

No, it's evidence that the internet has provided an environment where nutjobs can congregate and reinforce each other's views.

The minority has always been there, they're just more vocal now.

I really hope you are right, but it doesn't seem to be restricted to the internet.  And the producers of the new series have really dumbed-down the science.  It is still really interesting and I am glad to be watching it.


It's not restricted to the internet, sure. But the internet is what allowed it to pick up steam and jump to the national stage.

/The internet: Simultaneously one of the greatest and worst inventions in the history of man
 
2014-04-14 12:29:06 PM

PercyColburn: AurizenDarkstar: IronTom: Believers in the Big Bang are like Science fundies.   But what if the Big Bang never happened, just a continuum from something smaller, and what if the whole flipping Universe did not pop out of a big ol' Bang wa ball.  Maybe just a part of the universe, a local clump popped out of a local expansion.

Or maybe it is more awesome than we can imagine, and the BB just sort of explains it for now.

That's what I think is probably going to come about with the formation of our universe, actually.  That it's more than just a pinpoint at the beginning of time & space, and it came from 'somewhere else', that we can't see.  There are SO many competing theories going around now about it that it's completely mind boggling to contemplate.

It's funny cos it's racist!! Hahahaaa


Umm....whaaaaaaaa?

What is this, I don't even.....
 
2014-04-14 04:18:53 PM

nymersic: Vlad_the_Inaner: You mean Nelson Mandela?

[www.theblaze.com image 600x600]

That's so fascinating.  Does anyone know if that was photoshopped or not?  I'm more than a little curious.


related (nsfw language)
 
2014-04-14 10:20:10 PM
Cosmos is there to provide you with a surface view, a mainstream approach if you will. It's there so after the show you go "eh, I need to check this on Wiki or the net". And then your knowledge and curiosity grows. It isn't there to provide you with the formula of energy conservation.

I really don't like the "ship of the imagination" crap however. I think there would have been better more serious ways to approach this.
 
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