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(WRAL)   Two marathon runners take the legend of Pheidippides' a little too literally   (wral.com) divider line 61
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2014-04-13 01:42:03 PM  
Tough course...
 
2014-04-13 02:00:24 PM  
2 people died in a small half-marathon?  WTF?
 
2014-04-13 02:04:04 PM  
Jim Fixx smiles down from above.
 
2014-04-13 02:54:47 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: 2 people died in a small half-marathon?  WTF?


Mathematically, that means that four would've died in a full marathon.
 
2014-04-13 06:20:41 PM  
Running is bad for the knees.  Especially running on pavement.

I'm the fat guy in that mustard picture.

But seriously,  it's bad for the knees.
 
2014-04-13 06:20:48 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: 2 people died in a small half-marathon?  WTF?


I'm not in the best shape, but I'm pretty sure even I can handle a half-Marathon without croaking.

/ then again, I do post on FARK...
// * scraping the Cheetos-dust from my shirt*
 
2014-04-13 06:23:56 PM  
Yeah, running will foocking kill you. And if it doesn't kill you the continual impacts on your joints will cripple you before your years. That's why my favorite form of exercise these days is the reclined 2oz lift (sipping bourbon on the couch.) I enjoyed some crossfit a while back but don't have the time these days to be incapacitated for several hours after a workout.
 
2014-04-13 06:24:31 PM  
That headline was too intelligent for Fark!  Let's make litter of these literati!!!!
 
2014-04-13 06:24:49 PM  
Crap! Who said Nike?

/ for those unaware; Nike is the Greek goddess of victory; nike is also the Greek word for victory; what's his face actually said nenikekamen or "We've won!".
 
2014-04-13 06:25:29 PM  

"Two die in inaugural Rock 'n' Roll Marathon in Raleigh"


I can't remember if I cried,
When I read about those deaths in stride,
But something touched me deep inside,
The day the marathoners died.


/Bye bye Miss Runner's thighs

 
2014-04-13 06:26:31 PM  
Just another reason I only run when chased.
 
2014-04-13 06:30:01 PM  
Maybe they took the "rock and roll" part of it too seriously. Rock and Roll all night, party everyday, and then run 13 miles? No.  Don't.

We will probably never get a follow up article on this, but I wonder if these guys were regular runners, or even regular aerobic exercisers.  The term "Rock and Roll half marathon" makes it seem like a lark, or a 10K, when 13 miles is far too far for someone who doesn't work out regularly.
 
2014-04-13 06:30:05 PM  
Too old to be running marathons, and yes I know how old they were.
 
2014-04-13 06:32:05 PM  

pippi longstocking: Too old to be running marathons, and yes I know how old they were.


You read the article!
 
2014-04-13 06:32:40 PM  
skinink "Two die in inaugural Rock 'n' Roll Marathon in Raleigh"

were they 27?
 
2014-04-13 06:33:40 PM  

rbuzby: Running is bad for the knees.  Especially running on pavement.

I'm the fat guy in that mustard picture.

But seriously,  it's bad for the knees.


People don't usually die of bad knees.
 
2014-04-13 06:36:25 PM  
Horribly sad for their families, but on the whole:
Conclusion Organised marathons are not associated with an increase in sudden deaths from a societal perspective, contrary to anecdotal impressions fostered by news media.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2151171/#

The running ruining your joints thing also does not hold up to analysis even though you can find anecdotes of that happening.  My anecdote is I've been running for 30 years, including several marathons, and my joints are great.
 
2014-04-13 06:38:36 PM  
Proof that exercise kills. I'll be on the couch.
 
2014-04-13 06:43:36 PM  

WanPhat: Horribly sad for their families, but on the whole:
Conclusion Organised marathons are not associated with an increase in sudden deaths from a societal perspective, contrary to anecdotal impressions fostered by news media.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2151171/#

The running ruining your joints thing also does not hold up to analysis even though you can find anecdotes of that happening.  My anecdote is I've been running for 30 years, including several marathons, and my joints are great.


Some people can do it, others can't. I've got an idiot coworker, in his 40s, his knees are starting to go, but he keeps running, bragging about is NSAID I take like it's some kind of macho badge of honor..

We've got another idiot who never shuts up about crossfit. showed up two work the other day with both wrists heavily wrapped, apparently had some kind of accident in a local competition ("racing" repetitions of powerlifting exercises against competitors and a clock, farking brilliant idea)...

I just wonder , 30 years from now, when these folks are struggling to wipe their own asses, if it will all see, worth it...
 
2014-04-13 06:44:55 PM  

WanPhat: Horribly sad for their families, but on the whole:
Conclusion Organised marathons are not associated with an increase in sudden deaths from a societal perspective, contrary to anecdotal impressions fostered by news media.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2151171/#

The running ruining your joints thing also does not hold up to analysis even though you can find anecdotes of that happening.  My anecdote is I've been running for 30 years, including several marathons, and my joints are great.


Some people can do it, others can't. I've got an idiot coworker, in his 40s, his knees are starting to go, but he keeps running, bragging about his NSAID intake like it's some kind of macho badge of honor..

We've got another idiot who never shuts up about crossfit. showed up two work the other day with both wrists heavily wrapped, apparently had some kind of accident in a local competition ("racing" repetitions of powerlifting exercises against competitors and a clock, farking brilliant idea)...

I just wonder , 30 years from now, when these folks are struggling to wipe their own asses, if it will all seem worth it...
 
2014-04-13 06:47:45 PM  
100% of marathon finishers will die.

Running marathons is fatal...

/runs 50-90 miles a week
//knees and joints feel better now than when I was 240 pounds of goo
///6 pack at 43 makes it worthwhile
 
2014-04-13 06:49:27 PM  

WanPhat: Horribly sad for their families, but on the whole:
Conclusion Organised marathons are not associated with an increase in sudden deaths from a societal perspective, contrary to anecdotal impressions fostered by news media.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2151171/#

The running ruining your joints thing also does not hold up to analysis even though you can find anecdotes of that happening.  My anecdote is I've been running for 30 years, including several marathons, and my joints are great.


So are mine, do ya use a rolling machine or do you finger roll yours?

 
2014-04-13 06:51:11 PM  
You run, you takes your chances.
 
2014-04-13 06:54:21 PM  
dforkus: ...  I just wonder , 30 years from now, when these folks are struggling to wipe their own asses, if it will all seem worth it...

30 years worth of double posts would give you a wicked RSI.
 
2014-04-13 07:10:01 PM  

rbuzby: Running is bad for the knees.  Especially running on pavement.

I'm the fat guy in that mustard picture.

But seriously,  it's bad for the knees.


BS. Most pro runners have fine knees.
You have to use proper running technique and also slowly increase your mileage then it will be all-right.

What you are saying is that you can injure your knees by running if you do stupid things.
 
2014-04-13 07:31:08 PM  

skinink: "Two die in inaugural Rock 'n' Roll Marathon in Raleigh"
I can't remember if I cried,
When I read about those deaths in stride,
But something touched me deep inside,
The day the marathoners died.
/Bye bye Miss Runner's thighs


reactiongifs.me
 
2014-04-13 07:31:44 PM  

WanPhat: Horribly sad for their families, but on the whole:
Conclusion Organised marathons are not associated with an increase in sudden deaths from a societal perspective, contrary to anecdotal impressions fostered by news media.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2151171/#

The running ruining your joints thing also does not hold up to analysis even though you can find anecdotes of that happening.  My anecdote is I've been running for 30 years, including several marathons, and my joints are great.


They have found running actually reduces incidence of arthritis and other joint ailments. However they have found an ideal amount of running, running more than 5 and less than 20 miles per week increases health benefits immensely but weird enough more than 20 per week actually increases heart disease and death. Too much of a good thing I guess.
 
2014-04-13 07:42:22 PM  

WanPhat: Horribly sad for their families, but on the whole:
Conclusion Organised marathons are not associated with an increase in sudden deaths from a societal perspective, contrary to anecdotal impressions fostered by news media.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2151171/#

The running ruining your joints thing also does not hold up to analysis even though you can find anecdotes of that happening.  My anecdote is I've been running for 30 years, including several marathons, and my joints are great.


You sound fit.

/ran 32km today in training for marathon so getting a kick, etc.
 
2014-04-13 07:58:56 PM  

buntz: That headline was too intelligent for Fark!  Let's make litter of these literati!!!!


It had an unnecessary apostrophe, so I'd say it was at the right intelligence level.
 
2014-04-13 08:02:37 PM  

rbuzby: Running is bad for the knees.  Especially running on pavement.

I'm the fat guy in that mustard picture.

But seriously,  it's bad for the knees.


No.
 
2014-04-13 08:03:50 PM  
Duke Sucks.
 
2014-04-13 08:13:59 PM  

President Raygun: WanPhat: Horribly sad for their families, but on the whole:
Conclusion Organised marathons are not associated with an increase in sudden deaths from a societal perspective, contrary to anecdotal impressions fostered by news media.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2151171/#

The running ruining your joints thing also does not hold up to analysis even though you can find anecdotes of that happening.  My anecdote is I've been running for 30 years, including several marathons, and my joints are great.

They have found running actually reduces incidence of arthritis and other joint ailments. However they have found an ideal amount of running, running more than 5 and less than 20 miles per week increases health benefits immensely but weird enough more than 20 per week actually increases heart disease and death. Too much of a good thing I guess.


That article about >20 miles of running a week being unhealthy wasn't based on good research.  http://www.runnersworld.com/health/will-running-too-much-kill-you Ba sically the scientists tried to compensate for irrelevant issues to make runners and non-runners equal, but they overcompensated, also compensating for things like BMI, which obviously is tied to running, so it shouldn't be compensated for.
 
2014-04-13 08:17:21 PM  

mr0x: rbuzby: Running is bad for the knees.  Especially running on pavement.

I'm the fat guy in that mustard picture.

But seriously,  it's bad for the knees.

BS. Most pro runners have fine knees.
You have to use proper running technique and also slowly increase your mileage then it will be all-right.

What you are saying is that you can injure your knees by running if you do stupid things.


Pretty much this - I run between 50-75mi a week with a 5-8lb pack (run commuter) - injuries (knee, ITB, etc.) do not happen if you slowl build your base. Usually the folks that go tits up in a race have some other underlying or undiagnosed condition.

For the record, that really isn't a very tough course - Pikes Peak 1/2 with 7000ft+ of climb is a tough course.  http://www.pikespeakmarathon.org/course.htm#Weather
 
2014-04-13 08:21:40 PM  

dforkus: WanPhat: Horribly sad for their families, but on the whole:
Conclusion Organised marathons are not associated with an increase in sudden deaths from a societal perspective, contrary to anecdotal impressions fostered by news media.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2151171/#

The running ruining your joints thing also does not hold up to analysis even though you can find anecdotes of that happening.  My anecdote is I've been running for 30 years, including several marathons, and my joints are great.

Some people can do it, others can't. I've got an idiot coworker, in his 40s, his knees are starting to go, but he keeps running, bragging about his NSAID intake like it's some kind of macho badge of honor..

We've got another idiot who never shuts up about crossfit. showed up two work the other day with both wrists heavily wrapped, apparently had some kind of accident in a local competition ("racing" repetitions of powerlifting exercises against competitors and a clock, farking brilliant idea)...

I just wonder , 30 years from now, when these folks are struggling to wipe their own asses, if it will all seem worth it...


Crossfit removes all the boring things from weight lifting like safety and effectiveness and replaces them with cool stuff like violence and danger.
 
2014-04-13 08:22:20 PM  
I've been riding bikes since high school, and started running in my early 30's (so about 6 years). My knees hurt when I ran because I was over my optimal weight. I run about 60 miles a month, the only thing that hurts are my muscles and lungs.

I hate when people who don't run tell me my knees will fall apart. I'm to nice to tell them they will lose their legs below the knees due to type 2 diabetes before my knees start to hurt.

/yes that was mean, but this is the internet.
 
2014-04-13 08:31:14 PM  

mr0x: rbuzby: Running is bad for the knees.  Especially running on pavement.

I'm the fat guy in that mustard picture.

But seriously,  it's bad for the knees.

BS. Most pro runners have fine knees.


Yep, the general scientific consensus at this point is that, on the whole, running in moderation is mostly good for your knees.

"Running kills your knees" is the equivalent of "wait half an hour before swimming after you eat or you'll cramp up and drown" in terms of frequently-repeated-but-pretty-much-wrong medical advice.
 
2014-04-13 08:35:59 PM  

Korzine: Crossfit removes all the boring things from weight lifting like safety and effectiveness and replaces them with cool stuff like violence and danger.


You swole, bro? I bet you don't even lift or play lax.
 
2014-04-13 08:48:11 PM  

Uzzah: mr0x: rbuzby: Running is bad for the knees.  Especially running on pavement.

I'm the fat guy in that mustard picture.

But seriously,  it's bad for the knees.

BS. Most pro runners have fine knees.

Yep, the general scientific consensus at this point is that, on the whole, running in moderation is mostly good for your knees.

"Running kills your knees" is the equivalent of "wait half an hour before swimming after you eat or you'll cramp up and drown" in terms of frequently-repeated-but-pretty-much-wrong medical advice.


If you have science on your side....I concede.

My knee thing maybe genetic, or from pounding downhill on trails with heavy pack.
 
2014-04-13 08:54:28 PM  
Well, dying young is pretty rock'n'roll
 
2014-04-13 09:01:43 PM  

cyberspacedout: buntz: That headline was too intelligent for Fark!  Let's make litter of these literati!!!!

It had an unnecessary apostrophe, so I'd say it was at the right intelligence level.


It was edited before being green-lit.

At least, that's my story.  And I'm sticking to it.

Thanks though for anyone thinking it was too high-brow.

/subby
 
2014-04-13 09:11:02 PM  

mactheknife: cyberspacedout: buntz: That headline was too intelligent for Fark!  Let's make litter of these literati!!!!

It had an unnecessary apostrophe, so I'd say it was at the right intelligence level.

It was edited before being green-lit.

At least, that's my story.  And I'm sticking to it.

Thanks though for anyone thinking it was too high-brow.

/subby


I'll admit I had to look it up. Long ago in middle school, my class studied a bunch of these Greek myths and legends, and somewhere along the line I heard where the marathon came from. You'd think I'd remember a big name like Pheidippides, but apparently not.
 
2014-04-13 09:12:32 PM  

tkrispin: I've been riding bikes since high school, and started running in my early 30's (so about 6 years). My knees hurt when I ran because I was over my optimal weight. I run about 60 miles a month, the only thing that hurts are my muscles and lungs.

I hate when people who don't run tell me my knees will fall apart. I'm to nice to tell them they will lose their legs below the knees due to type 2 diabetes before my knees start to hurt.

/yes that was mean, but this is the internet.


Eh, I'm a below knee amputee and I can maintain a 10 minute mile for about 40 minutes.  My $5k running foot certainly helps.
 
2014-04-13 09:33:52 PM  

rbuzby: Running is bad for the knees.  Especially running on pavement.

I'm the fat guy in that mustard picture.

But seriously,  it's bad for the knees.


Unless you truly are fat it is not bad for your knees.
 
2014-04-13 09:35:10 PM  

wax_on: Yeah, running will foocking kill you. And if it doesn't kill you the continual impacts on your joints will cripple you before your years. That's why my favorite form of exercise these days is the reclined 2oz lift (sipping bourbon on the couch.) I enjoyed some crossfit a while back but don't have the time these days to be incapacitated for several hours after a workout.


You sound weak.
 
2014-04-13 09:37:09 PM  

pippi longstocking: Too old to be running marathons, and yes I know how old they were.


Bullshiat.
 
2014-04-13 10:20:35 PM  
I worked a marathon today providing communications support with my ham radio club so I'm getting a kick out of these comments.

/nobody died
//APRS digipeater couldn't handle the traffic and locked up twice.
 
2014-04-13 10:23:13 PM  

TanHamster: tkrispin: I've been riding bikes since high school, and started running in my early 30's (so about 6 years). My knees hurt when I ran because I was over my optimal weight. I run about 60 miles a month, the only thing that hurts are my muscles and lungs.

I hate when people who don't run tell me my knees will fall apart. I'm to nice to tell them they will lose their legs below the knees due to type 2 diabetes before my knees start to hurt.

/yes that was mean, but this is the internet.

Eh, I'm a below knee amputee and I can maintain a 10 minute mile for about 40 minutes.  My $5k running foot certainly helps.


Good for you!!  (now I'm feeling worse for saying what I said above)  I started off slow and out of shape cycling and running, so I'm happy to see anyone outside doing what I enjoy also.

Also the grammar nazi in me says that I meant to say "I'm too nice..."
 
2014-04-13 11:12:22 PM  

pippi longstocking: Too old to be running marathons, and yes I know how old they were.


I started running marathons in my late 20s. I ran two every year well into my 30s. My wife's uncle still runs them in his late 60s. You have no idea what you're on about.

rbuzby: Running is bad for the knees.  Especially running on pavement.
I'm the fat guy in that mustard picture.
But seriously,  it's bad for the knees.


Probably a troll, but whatever. Everyone up-thread has already covered the basics. But for me personally, I started running when I was 280 pounds and needed to something to lose weight. I dropped 80 pounds on my way to doing about 40 miles per week. Before starting all that running I was diagnosed with arthritis and bones spurs in my knees. Know what the doc told me recently? Keep running, it's the best thing for it. I haven't had pain in over a decade.
 
2014-04-13 11:24:24 PM  
TFA called them "local," which for Raleigh likely means they're originally from New York or New Jersey.
 
2014-04-13 11:34:48 PM  
Most likely the cause was an undiagnosed heart condition.

Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy

/My son's name is on that page.
 
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