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(Entertainment Weekly)   SyFy hopes their adaptation of The Expanse will strike gold and become "Game of Thrones" in space. But given it's SyFy, it will most likely wind up being like Matlock   (insidetv.ew.com) divider line 72
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2014-04-13 09:06:34 PM

NeoCortex42: Satanic_Hamster: I've given up on SyFy channel entirely.  No matter how good a series is, they'll fark it up/over and end it horribly.

For the life of that company, they can NOT end a series well.

SG1 ended alright, assuming you pretend the series ended when they stopped fighting the Go'auld. Farscape had a good ending if you include Peacekeeper Wars. And I thought Eureka had a decent ending.


Heh.  Yeah, they ended good if you ignore how they ended and the circumstances.  :)
 
2014-04-13 09:19:34 PM
At this point I don't care what they air, I just want them to die. Nothing they can do would ever cause me to watch that channel again.
 
2014-04-13 09:20:55 PM

Satanic_Hamster: NeoCortex42: Satanic_Hamster: I've given up on SyFy channel entirely.  No matter how good a series is, they'll fark it up/over and end it horribly.

For the life of that company, they can NOT end a series well.

SG1 ended alright, assuming you pretend the series ended when they stopped fighting the Go'auld. Farscape had a good ending if you include Peacekeeper Wars. And I thought Eureka had a decent ending.

Heh.  Yeah, they ended good if you ignore how they ended and the circumstances.  :)


The problem isn't that they don't know how to end. It's that they have no idea when to end. SG1 went longer than it should have, while Farscape had another good year left in it. Sliders should have never gotten that abortion of a fifth season, while SGU should have absolutely gotten a third one. So if you average it out, they're in good shape.

At least WH13 seems to be ending while it's still decent. I worry Haven is going to get run into the ground, though. That show only has maybe one good season left in it.
 
2014-04-13 09:26:17 PM

insertsnarkyusername: At this point I don't care what they air, I just want them to die. Nothing they can do would ever cause me to watch that channel again.


I wish they'd go back to doing the big miniseries events based on books.  The Dune ones were good, and I even liked their second attempt at Riverworld. I still can't believe that one didn't go to series. Seems like such a great setup, where they can introduce historical figures whenever they want as well as freely kill and introduce characters.

I think they should partner up and provide money to the UK studio that's produced the live-action Discworld series.  They seem to know what they're doing. Just give them the funds to crank out one every year or two.
 
2014-04-13 09:30:54 PM

Funbags: Seriously, Siffy, just stick with wrestling. Its fans are far more tolerant of your shens, and only children are an easier demo to sell commercial time.


Like SyFy has anything to say about Vince McMahon's product. If you believe that I have a bridge (in space) to sell you.
 
2014-04-13 09:40:24 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Matlock lasted for 9 years and is a syndication goldmine.

Siffy would be lucky to have a Matlock.


This. Matlock wouldn't last ten episodes on SyFy, and that's with four time slot changes over six months. It would be replaced by a reality show starring Andy Griffith.
 
2014-04-13 10:06:06 PM

NeoCortex42: their second attempt at Riverworld


I couldn't watch the first one because they did away with the Suicide Express.  Plus no cavemen.
 
2014-04-13 10:20:30 PM

fusillade762: NeoCortex42: their second attempt at Riverworld

I couldn't watch the first one because they did away with the Suicide Express.  Plus no cavemen.


Did you give the second one a shot?  It had both of those. And it starred the guy that played Helo in BSG.
 
2014-04-13 10:31:14 PM
If they're smart and stay fairly close to the books' plotlines, AND if they have a set beginning and end, AND if they cast it properly, they should do okay.

As for the The Expanse itself, it will be interesting to see where "Cibola Burn" takes it this June.

The gates have opened the way to a thousand new worlds and the rush to colonize has begun. Settlers looking for a new life stream out from humanity's home planets. Ilus, the first human colony on this vast new frontier, is being born in blood and fire.

Independent settlers stand against the overwhelming power of a corporate colony ship with only their determination, courage, and the skills learned in the long wars of home. Innocent scientists are slaughtered as they try to survey a new and alien world. The struggle on Ilus threatens to spread all the way back to Earth.

James Holden and the crew of his one small ship are sent to make peace in the midst of war and sense in the midst of chaos. But the more he looks at it, the more Holden thinks the mission was meant to fail.

And the whispers of a dead man remind him that the great galactic civilization that once stood on this land is gone. And that something killed it.
 
2014-04-13 11:10:06 PM

Mad_Radhu: Well, thanks to Canada, there is at least one watchable drama for me on Syfy now:

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It's low budget,  but they really make the most of their limited resources, like Babylon 5 did back in the day. It starts off slow, but once things get going, it is a lot of fun. Season 3 has started off strong now that it seems like all the pieces are on the board.


wanna actually name the show or should I just stare at the unfamiliar picture some more?
 
2014-04-13 11:18:15 PM

barc0001: Mad_Radhu: Well, thanks to Canada, there is at least one watchable drama for me on Syfy now:

[static.tvtome.com image 600x335]

It's low budget,  but they really make the most of their limited resources, like Babylon 5 did back in the day. It starts off slow, but once things get going, it is a lot of fun. Season 3 has started off strong now that it seems like all the pieces are on the board.

wanna actually name the show or should I just stare at the unfamiliar picture some more?


Continuum
 
2014-04-14 12:20:32 AM

barc0001: Mad_Radhu: Well, thanks to Canada, there is at least one watchable drama for me on Syfy now:

[static.tvtome.com image 600x335]

It's low budget,  but they really make the most of their limited resources, like Babylon 5 did back in the day. It starts off slow, but once things get going, it is a lot of fun. Season 3 has started off strong now that it seems like all the pieces are on the board.

wanna actually name the show or should I just stare at the unfamiliar picture some more?


Oh, sorry.

As noted above it is Continuum. The show has really grown on me. It's about a cop from 2077 with an advanced computer system in her head and a super suit filled with all kinds of tech who is pulled back into 2012 when a group of terrorists escape their execution by going into the past. The cop just want to get back home, but the terrorist group wants to change history to meet their political goals. The interesting twist is that 2077 is a corporate ruled dystopia and our hero is basically a Stormtrooper in that future, keeping the populace in line, and the Liber8 group wants to stop the future where everyone is basically a serf that owes a life debt to their corporate masters. Another major character is a teenage kid who winds up inventing all of the tech built into Kiera, and becomes one of those corporate masters. He winds up discovering her on his experimental network and helps her, later learning that he sent her and the terrorists back for his own reasons.

As mentioned above it started out very police procedural with some sci-fi mixed in, but as the story has gone along the time travel aspect has gotten bigger and the characters have all gotten more complex and darker. At this point, everyone is painted in shades of gray. Kiera is a bit of a self centered biatch, the young tech genius has gone off the rails due to several personal losses, the terrorists have splintered junto several factions and are doing the wrong things for the right reasons while fighting each other, and other players have entered the game and expanded the scope of what is being fought for.
 
2014-04-14 01:08:39 AM

Nefarious: On the one hand "The Expanse" is an excellent series of novels.  On the other it's Syfy.  Well at least the novels are good.

/Who knows maybe they'll shock us


If it's good it will be canceled, quickly enough.
 
2014-04-14 02:41:06 AM
Imagine how awesome it would be to play Artemis with Ty Franck and Daniel Abraham (James SA Corey) and Paolo Bacigalupi and Carrie Vaughn all on the same ship...
 
2014-04-14 03:12:20 AM

Mad_Radhu: barc0001: Mad_Radhu: Well, thanks to Canada, there is at least one watchable drama for me on Syfy now:

[static.tvtome.com image 600x335]

It's low budget,  but they really make the most of their limited resources, like Babylon 5 did back in the day. It starts off slow, but once things get going, it is a lot of fun. Season 3 has started off strong now that it seems like all the pieces are on the board.

wanna actually name the show or should I just stare at the unfamiliar picture some more?

Oh, sorry.

As noted above it is Continuum. The show has really grown on me. It's about a cop from 2077 with an advanced computer system in her head and a super suit filled with all kinds of tech who is pulled back into 2012 when a group of terrorists escape their execution by going into the past. The cop just want to get back home, but the terrorist group wants to change history to meet their political goals. The interesting twist is that 2077 is a corporate ruled dystopia and our hero is basically a Stormtrooper in that future, keeping the populace in line, and the Liber8 group wants to stop the future where everyone is basically a serf that owes a life debt to their corporate masters. Another major character is a teenage kid who winds up inventing all of the tech built into Kiera, and becomes one of those corporate masters. He winds up discovering her on his experimental network and helps her, later learning that he sent her and the terrorists back for his own reasons.

As mentioned above it started out very police procedural with some sci-fi mixed in, but as the story has gone along the time travel aspect has gotten bigger and the characters have all gotten more complex and darker. At this point, everyone is painted in shades of gray. Kiera is a bit of a self centered biatch, the young tech genius has gone off the rails due to several personal losses, the terrorists have splintered junto several factions and are doing the wrong things for the right reasons while fighting eac ...


I'm going to have to give that show a try. I passed on because I figured it would be typical Siffy dreck.
 
2014-04-14 06:34:33 AM
Oh, yes please oh please make it good and don't screw it up!

/I want a Rocinante!
 
2014-04-14 08:29:58 AM

Nefarious: Here is the description of the first book in the series "Leviathan Wakes"

Humanity has colonized the solar system - Mars, the Moon, the Asteroid Belt and beyond - but the stars are still out of our reach.

Jim Holden is XO of an ice miner making runs from the rings of Saturn to the mining stations of the Belt. When he and his crew stumble upon a derelict ship,  The Scopuli, they find themselves in possession of a secret they never wanted. A secret that someone is willing to kill for - and kill on a scale unfathomable to Jim and his crew. War is brewing in the system unless he can find out who left the ship and why.

Detective Miller is looking for a girl. One girl in a system of billions, but her parents have money and money talks. When the trail leads him to  The Scopuli and rebel sympathizer Holden, he realizes that this girl may be the key to everything.

Holden and Miller must thread the needle between the Earth government, the Outer Planet revolutionaries, and secretive corporations - and the odds are against them. But out in the Belt, the rules are different, and one small ship can change the fate of the universe.

The series has potential I'd feel better if almost any other network other than Syfy were adapting it.


Well, the third act in that book is off the rails. I can't describe it without ruining the plot honestly, but it sort of takes the novel in a sharp right hand turn from where the synopsis makes you think it will.

And it's also the reason I don't expect scyfi to pull it off. A lot of the novels are based on tensions and being aboard ships, and dialogue. Not action or adventure. It's not really a good scifi show, let alone Scyfi.
 
2014-04-14 09:08:43 AM

Virtual Pariah: Book 3 goes off the rails quite a bit. It does open up the potential for the series, but, it's a real departure from books 1 and 2.


Yep. The new characters and plot lines following them were terrible (all three new main strands). Holden et al show up? Fine. The rest? Page ahead. Hopefully it was just a bad choice instead of the future direction for the series.
 
2014-04-14 09:28:34 AM

fusillade762: I'm going to have to give that show a try. I passed on because I figured it would be typical Siffy dreck.


If it makes you feel any better, it isn't a Syfy production.  It's done by Showcase and Syfy simply imports it.
 
2014-04-14 02:57:28 PM
You know it is sad when the CW does better Science Fiction then the god dam SyFy channel.
 
2014-04-14 06:24:01 PM

feanorn: Virtual Pariah: Book 3 goes off the rails quite a bit. It does open up the potential for the series, but, it's a real departure from books 1 and 2.

Yep. The new characters and plot lines following them were terrible (all three new main strands). Holden et al show up? Fine. The rest? Page ahead. Hopefully it was just a bad choice instead of the future direction for the series.


The fourth book is apparently about a rush to colonize through the alien gates.
 
2014-04-14 11:41:39 PM
It's SyFy - so the majority of the people who need to watch it at broadcast or buy it on DVD/Blu-Ray will instead pirate it and SyFy won't recoup their production costs.
 
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