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(Entertainment Weekly)   SyFy hopes their adaptation of The Expanse will strike gold and become "Game of Thrones" in space. But given it's SyFy, it will most likely wind up being like Matlock   (insidetv.ew.com) divider line 72
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2014-04-13 01:18:18 PM
No subby.  Being SyFy means we get to see sharks in space.

www.medangerbolt.com
 
2014-04-13 01:51:11 PM
On the one hand "The Expanse" is an excellent series of novels.  On the other it's Syfy.  Well at least the novels are good.

/Who knows maybe they'll shock us
 
2014-04-13 02:18:46 PM

Nefarious: On the one hand "The Expanse" is an excellent series of novels.  On the other it's Syfy.  Well at least the novels are good.

/Who knows maybe they'll shock us


...but most of the folks who were involved in "the good years" at Sci Fi are all cleared out. I don't exactly have hopes for another Farscape any time soon...
 
2014-04-13 02:42:49 PM
Matlock lasted for 9 years and is a syndication goldmine.

Siffy would be lucky to have a Matlock.
 
2014-04-13 04:00:49 PM
Warehouse 13 Season 5 starts showing the last episodes of the series this Monday.

At least the channel is giving that series a chance at closure.
 
2014-04-13 04:00:56 PM
Given how quickly Helix went from interesting to utter garbage I have little hope.  Does not matter how good the source material is.  It mostly comes down to casting and direction, neither of which are SyFy's strengths.  They are good at branding but whomever is in charge there is OBSESSED with reality TV and cheap campy movies (which have missed WAY more than they hit).  Chances of the creating Game of Thrones in space is nearly zero.
 
2014-04-13 04:03:03 PM
Maaatlock!!

/Simpsons
 
2014-04-13 04:03:31 PM
What's the point if they won't be showing tits?

Not that they'd have to to make a good show, but if they're going to compare it to Game of Thrones, then, yeah.
 
2014-04-13 04:06:44 PM

AKA Joker: Given how quickly Helix went from interesting to utter garbage I have little hope.  Does not matter how good the source material is.  It mostly comes down to casting and direction, neither of which are SyFy's strengths.  They are good at branding but whomever is in charge there is OBSESSED with reality TV and cheap campy movies (which have missed WAY more than they hit).  Chances of the creating Game of Thrones in space is nearly zero.


Helix was like they took all the popular sci fi tropes and through them at the wall to see if they would stick.

1.Virus
2.Crazy underground compound
3. Antarctica
4. Immortals
5.Zombies
6.Ninjas
 
2014-04-13 04:11:19 PM

AKA Joker: Given how quickly Helix went from interesting to utter garbage I have little hope.


Yea, that's been one of the bigger disappointments of the year so far for me =\ It had so much promise.
 
2014-04-13 04:19:06 PM
theflatline:
Helix was like they took all the popular sci fi tropes and through them at the wall to see if they would stick.

1.Virus
2.Crazy underground compound
3. Antarctica
4. Immortals
5.Zombies
6.Ninjas


You had me going through number three, I could even come to accept either four or five (not together though) but all of them fused just made a horrible mess.  It does not help that  Billy Campbell is simply terrible in this "lead" role.  The only character I had any interest in at all was Dr. Hatake (Hiroyuki Sanada) whose compliance in making the virus, subversion of that end and tortured past make him much more compelling than any of the others.  That alone could have made a great series but its SyFy so IMMORTAL ZOMBIE ILLUMINATI VIRUS DOOMSDAY GO!
 
2014-04-13 04:20:11 PM

VTGremlin: AKA Joker: Given how quickly Helix went from interesting to utter garbage I have little hope.

Yea, that's been one of the bigger disappointments of the year so far for me =\ It had so much promise.

I feel your pain, truly I do.

/I think I'll wait about a year before I give The Expanse a look.
//Seems like a good idea given SyFy's miserable track record.
 
2014-04-13 04:26:22 PM
Just in time to go up against a Disney cash infused Star Wars universe.  Good luck!
 
2014-04-13 04:28:30 PM
Hell, I'm still amazed that people thought Farscape was good scifi
 
2014-04-13 04:33:34 PM
Not unless they show titties and snatch, which it being SyFy they won't show.
 
2014-04-13 04:33:52 PM

Asa Phelps: Hell, I'm still amazed that people thought Farscape was good scifi


9/10. Let's see how many bites you get...
 
2014-04-13 04:42:05 PM
"Dune" was GoT in space before GoT....


/ just sayin'
// would watch a prequel TV series based on it ( ignoring everything by Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson, of course)
 
2014-04-13 04:43:45 PM
Matlock is better than 99% of TV. Just sayin'. Just the scenes of Andy Griffith eating hotdogs is better than most of the crap mucking around on my cable right now.
 
2014-04-13 04:43:50 PM

Eddie_Dean_NY: Asa Phelps: Hell, I'm still amazed that people thought Farscape was good scifi

9/10. Let's see how many bites you get...


No i'm serious. it was so poorly done.

Maybe the storyline appealed to someone but i couldn't see past the shiatty production quality. and muppets. and bad acting.
 
2014-04-13 04:49:55 PM

K3rmy: No subby.  Being SyFy means we get to see sharks in space.

[www.medangerbolt.com image 680x510]


i.imgur.com

/oblig
 
2014-04-13 04:50:07 PM

theflatline: AKA Joker: Given how quickly Helix went from interesting to utter garbage I have little hope.  Does not matter how good the source material is.  It mostly comes down to casting and direction, neither of which are SyFy's strengths.  They are good at branding but whomever is in charge there is OBSESSED with reality TV and cheap campy movies (which have missed WAY more than they hit).  Chances of the creating Game of Thrones in space is nearly zero.

Helix was like they took all the popular sci fi tropes and through them at the wall to see if they would stick.

1.Virus
2.Crazy underground compound
3. Antarctica
4. Immortals
5.Zombies
6.Ninjas


Don't forget:
7. Identical twin of major character.

It's pretty sad when my initial reaction to a main character being violently killed is "Well, at least they have a spare around."

K3rmy: No subby.  Being SyFy means we get to see sharks in space.

[www.medangerbolt.com image 680x510]


That's ridiculous.  Sharks only have the range of a passenger jet at cruising altitude.  No way could they make it all the way up to space.
 
Skr
2014-04-13 04:50:12 PM
Only way SyFyLis will get my viewership back is if they do a good team up scifi/fantasy show with Jim Henson's Creature Shop, and not a shiat reality show.
 
2014-04-13 04:50:26 PM
Nathan Fillion and Gina Torres as Holden and Naomi. Who's with me?
 
2014-04-13 04:50:44 PM

Asa Phelps: Eddie_Dean_NY: Asa Phelps: Hell, I'm still amazed that people thought Farscape was good scifi

9/10. Let's see how many bites you get...

No i'm serious. it was so poorly done.

Maybe the storyline appealed to someone but i couldn't see past the shiatty production quality. and muppets. and bad acting.


8/10.  But at least you followed up with an arguable claim as to what you see as not "good scifi"
 
2014-04-13 04:52:18 PM

Skr: Only way SyFyLis will get my viewership back is if they do a good team up scifi/fantasy show with Jim Henson's Creature Shop, and not a shiat reality show.


I wouldn't mind a couple more "fun" sci-fi shows.  Eureka was great (although it ran out of steam the last couple years), Warehouse 13 is pretty good, but ending after the season that starts tomorrow.  The only other one close in tone would be Haven, and even that can't have more than a season or two left in it at most.
 
2014-04-13 05:08:48 PM
Here is the description of the first book in the series "Leviathan Wakes"

Humanity has colonized the solar system - Mars, the Moon, the Asteroid Belt and beyond - but the stars are still out of our reach.

Jim Holden is XO of an ice miner making runs from the rings of Saturn to the mining stations of the Belt. When he and his crew stumble upon a derelict ship,  The Scopuli, they find themselves in possession of a secret they never wanted. A secret that someone is willing to kill for - and kill on a scale unfathomable to Jim and his crew. War is brewing in the system unless he can find out who left the ship and why.

Detective Miller is looking for a girl. One girl in a system of billions, but her parents have money and money talks. When the trail leads him to  The Scopuli and rebel sympathizer Holden, he realizes that this girl may be the key to everything.

Holden and Miller must thread the needle between the Earth government, the Outer Planet revolutionaries, and secretive corporations - and the odds are against them. But out in the Belt, the rules are different, and one small ship can change the fate of the universe.

The series has potential I'd feel better if almost any other network other than Syfy were adapting it.
 
2014-04-13 05:15:19 PM
Just because someone doesn't like something, doesn't mean they're trolling. Farscape was boring.
 
2014-04-13 05:23:26 PM

Jerseysteve22: Just because someone doesn't like something, doesn't mean they're trolling. Farscape was boring.


I agree. I could never get into Farscape. Something about it just never resonated with me.
 
2014-04-13 05:25:57 PM

Nefarious: Here is the description of the first book in the series "Leviathan Wakes"

Humanity has colonized the solar system - Mars, the Moon, the Asteroid Belt and beyond - but the stars are still out of our reach.

Jim Holden is XO of an ice miner making runs from the rings of Saturn to the mining stations of the Belt. When he and his crew stumble upon a derelict ship,  The Scopuli, they find themselves in possession of a secret they never wanted. A secret that someone is willing to kill for - and kill on a scale unfathomable to Jim and his crew. War is brewing in the system unless he can find out who left the ship and why.

Detective Miller is looking for a girl. One girl in a system of billions, but her parents have money and money talks. When the trail leads him to  The Scopuli and rebel sympathizer Holden, he realizes that this girl may be the key to everything.

Holden and Miller must thread the needle between the Earth government, the Outer Planet revolutionaries, and secretive corporations - and the odds are against them. But out in the Belt, the rules are different, and one small ship can change the fate of the universe.

The series has potential I'd feel better if almost any other network other than Syfy were adapting it.


Huh. Looking at the Wiki for this, it looks like I've erroneously pre-judged the material here.

/ this belongs on HBO
 
2014-04-13 05:30:08 PM
since it's Syphy and Bonnie T Hammer the cast will more than likely be made up of wrasselers and sharks
 
2014-04-13 05:32:19 PM

Skr: Only way SyFyLis will get my viewership back is if they do a good team up scifi/fantasy show with Jim Henson's Creature Shop, and not a shiat reality show.


I actually really like that show and Face Off. Instead of the stupid shiat that most reality shows have for challenges, both actually have talented people doing cool projects, so it is fun to watch. I also love how on Face Off, instead of people being a bunch of catty biatches to each other like on Project Runway, everyone is generally respectful of each other and help one another out all the time. It's a really different vibe than most reality TV crap.
 
2014-04-13 05:37:42 PM

Trik: since it's Syphy and Bonnie T Hammer the cast will more than likely be made up of wrasselers and sharks


She's no longer directly operating Syfy, while it's technically under her aegis (She's in charge of the entire entertainment group) there is someone in charge who is trying to steer the network back towards science fiction.
 
2014-04-13 05:43:54 PM

t3knomanser: Nathan Fillion and Gina Torres as Holden and Naomi. Who's with me?


Funnily enough I thought the books read a lot like Firefly fan fiction in some ways. And I mean that in the best possible way since I loved those books. Wish I could remember which Farker it was that recommended them because I'd like to thank them. Some of the best space opera I've read in a long time.

Don't fark this up, Siffy.
 
2014-04-13 05:59:11 PM

fusillade762: t3knomanser: Nathan Fillion and Gina Torres as Holden and Naomi. Who's with me?

Funnily enough I thought the books read a lot like Firefly fan fiction in some ways. And I mean that in the best possible way since I loved those books. Wish I could remember which Farker it was that recommended them because I'd like to thank them. Some of the best space opera I've read in a long time.

Don't fark this up, Siffy.


I just finished book 2 of the series based on the recommendation of a farker. I'm right there with you, some damn fine space opera to be had. I love that they don't spend whole chapters describing the political situation or the science behind the drives/weapons. It's just "You know how farked up humanity is? Well, it's like that, but on spaceships and asteroids."
 
2014-04-13 06:35:34 PM

Jerseysteve22: Just because someone doesn't like something, doesn't mean they're trolling. Farscape was boring.


If Farscape was boring for you, I hope you found other fare you preferred watching more.

Stating your opinion that you did not like something (and hopefully giving reasons why) is not trolling, its your opinion.

Implying that other peoples like of something is somehow bad (or less valid that your opinion) without giving other reasons why you feel that way as a starting comment; has the appearance of trolling.  imho.

For example:  I found Farscape far more watchable and internally consistent than LEXX,  but I still enjoyed the episode Brigadoom.
 
2014-04-13 06:38:46 PM
Nothing on SyFy is as good as Matlock.

SyFy would be lucky if they had something as good as the last season of Sliders again, and the last season of Sliders sucked.
 
2014-04-13 06:47:06 PM
This is an awesome series (though weirdly I'm having a hard time with Book 3 as I so very much hate the "heiress" (you know who I mean)). But SyFy...ugh. I was hoping for HBO or Netflix. SyFy is just...ugh.

But the books are awesome. And the "author" is actually 2 guys writing under a pen name.

/One of which is G. R. R. Martin's assistant, I believe
//Hodor
 
2014-04-13 07:12:54 PM

xalres: fusillade762: t3knomanser: Nathan Fillion and Gina Torres as Holden and Naomi. Who's with me?

Funnily enough I thought the books read a lot like Firefly fan fiction in some ways. And I mean that in the best possible way since I loved those books. Wish I could remember which Farker it was that recommended them because I'd like to thank them. Some of the best space opera I've read in a long time.

Don't fark this up, Siffy.

I just finished book 2 of the series based on the recommendation of a farker. I'm right there with you, some damn fine space opera to be had. I love that they don't spend whole chapters describing the political situation or the science behind the drives/weapons. It's just "You know how farked up humanity is? Well, it's like that, but on spaceships and asteroids."



I don't know.
Book 3 goes off the rails quite a bit. It does open up the potential for the series, but, it's a real departure from books 1 and 2.
 
2014-04-13 07:26:39 PM
I've given up on SyFy channel entirely.  No matter how good a series is, they'll fark it up/over and end it horribly.

For the life of that company, they can NOT end a series well.
 
2014-04-13 07:27:21 PM
Seriously, Siffy, just stick with wrestling. Its fans are far more tolerant of your shens, and only children are an easier demo to sell commercial time.
 
2014-04-13 07:36:11 PM

Asa Phelps: Eddie_Dean_NY: Asa Phelps: Hell, I'm still amazed that people thought Farscape was good scifi

9/10. Let's see how many bites you get...

No i'm serious. it was so poorly done.

Maybe the storyline appealed to someone but i couldn't see past the shiatty production quality. and muppets. and bad acting.


To be honest it was an utter suckfest - I think a lot of people got a hardon for the blue mystic chick and the fact that Jim Henson was involved. Farscape always gets drug out as some sort of exemplary space opera when its more like space ultra camp.

/ SyFy why not a live-action Tripping the Rift?
// Love me some six of nine
 
2014-04-13 07:46:45 PM

Elzar: Asa Phelps: Eddie_Dean_NY: Asa Phelps: Hell, I'm still amazed that people thought Farscape was good scifi

9/10. Let's see how many bites you get...

No i'm serious. it was so poorly done.

Maybe the storyline appealed to someone but i couldn't see past the shiatty production quality. and muppets. and bad acting.

To be honest it was an utter suckfest - I think a lot of people got a hardon for the blue mystic chick and the fact that Jim Henson was involved. Farscape always gets drug out as some sort of exemplary space opera when its more like space ultra camp.

/ SyFy why not a live-action Tripping the Rift?
// Love me some six of nine


Aw... some guy on the internet doesn't like what I like.  I guess my opinions are bad and I should go be unhappy.
 
2014-04-13 07:46:52 PM

theflatline: AKA Joker: Given how quickly Helix went from interesting to utter garbage I have little hope.  Does not matter how good the source material is.  It mostly comes down to casting and direction, neither of which are SyFy's strengths.  They are good at branding but whomever is in charge there is OBSESSED with reality TV and cheap campy movies (which have missed WAY more than they hit).  Chances of the creating Game of Thrones in space is nearly zero.

Helix was like they took all the popular sci fi tropes and through them at the wall to see if they would stick.

1.Virus
2.Crazy underground compound
3. Antarctica
4. Immortals
5.Zombies
6.Ninjas


They aren't in Antarctica though. At least I don't think there are any Inuit tribes in Antarctica.
 
2014-04-13 08:07:08 PM
I still don't get the SIFFY = Wrestling rap.

They have two hours a week on a Friday night, and that's probably going away before the end of the year.

Two hours of wrestling is nothing compared to the 17 hours a day if ghosts, hunters, ghost hunters, and hunter ghosts.
 
2014-04-13 08:12:49 PM

Satanic_Hamster: I've given up on SyFy channel entirely.  No matter how good a series is, they'll fark it up/over and end it horribly.

For the life of that company, they can NOT end a series well.


SG1 ended alright, assuming you pretend the series ended when they stopped fighting the Go'auld. Farscape had a good ending if you include Peacekeeper Wars. And I thought Eureka had a decent ending.
 
2014-04-13 08:26:37 PM
Well, thanks to Canada, there is at least one watchable drama for me on Syfy now:

static.tvtome.com

It's low budget,  but they really make the most of their limited resources, like Babylon 5 did back in the day. It starts off slow, but once things get going, it is a lot of fun. Season 3 has started off strong now that it seems like all the pieces are on the board.
 
2014-04-13 08:27:52 PM
Farscape was good BECAUSE of the muppets. They let them have alien characters that didn't have to look like humans with putty stuck on their foreheads, even though there was plenty of that too.
 
2014-04-13 08:29:41 PM

Mad_Radhu: Well, thanks to Canada, there is at least one watchable drama for me on Syfy now:

[static.tvtome.com image 600x335]

It's low budget,  but they really make the most of their limited resources, like Babylon 5 did back in the day. It starts off slow, but once things get going, it is a lot of fun. Season 3 has started off strong now that it seems like all the pieces are on the board.


I agree. During the first season, it was awfully close to being just a police procedural with a few sci-fi gadgets sprinkled about. This season has fully embraced sci-fi from the get-go.
 
2014-04-13 08:57:38 PM

K3rmy: No subby.  Being SyFy means we get to see sharks in space.

[www.medangerbolt.com image 680x510]


You forgot the space-tornado.
 
2014-04-13 09:04:26 PM

Iczer: K3rmy: No subby.  Being SyFy means we get to see sharks in space.

[www.medangerbolt.com image 680x510]

You forgot the space-tornado.


You just explained how the shark would get there.
 
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