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2014-04-13 01:11:00 PM  
The warrant was written on saran wrap.
 
2014-04-13 01:20:00 PM  
In the search warrant application, a Braidwood, Ill., police officer assigned to the DEA, Donn Kaminski, wrote that he had observed Kirking exit the garden store "carrying a green plastic bag containing unknown items."

Well if that's not enough for a warrant, I don't know what is.

Seriously, y'all - WTF?
 
2014-04-13 01:37:21 PM  
What are the queers doing to it now?
 
2014-04-13 01:37:44 PM  
img.fark.net

"What warrant? We didn't need one. We "smelled" this from the road, while on normal patrol."
 
2014-04-13 01:41:30 PM  
sheikyermami.com
 
2014-04-13 01:42:23 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Well if that's not enough for a warrant, I don't know what is.


If you read further in the article, that was enough to investigate her further.  She had marijuana residue in her trash, and THAT was the evidence used to get the search warrant.
 
2014-04-13 01:42:52 PM  
I like the part where they didn't find anything in the trash obviously means the guy is hiding SOMETHING and they need to raid his ass really badly. Really deeply.
 
2014-04-13 01:43:24 PM  
It's a good thing we went after this hardened criminal.  The world is now a safer place.
 
GCD
2014-04-13 01:43:39 PM  
Maybe growing things hydroponically is big elsewhere, but around where I live, if you're purchasing "gardening supplies" at a hydroponics shop, there's a good chance you're growing more than just tomatoes with it.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the hydroponics shops here are required to keep a list of their customers
 
2014-04-13 01:43:48 PM  
My power bill is significantly higher than my neighbors'.  Must be a grow op, no other explanation.  Nobody ever likes it cooler or hotter, no one ever cooks more, watches TV more, has servers and/or network gear, etc.

I guess I should reconsider growing any kind of plants if I can't get what I need at Wal-Mart.
 
2014-04-13 01:45:16 PM  
"...a 46-year-old face-paint artist."


A whaaaaaaaaat?
 
2014-04-13 01:45:19 PM  

ferretman: [sheikyermami.com image 500x400]


I wish he had as much power as Bush did during his 8 years.  Maybe then we could get Obama to keep his promises of dialing back these kinds of abuses.
 
2014-04-13 01:46:25 PM  
The abuse of powers in warranting is one thing, but the fact that anything potentially drug related means a SWAT team is also appalling.
 
2014-04-13 01:47:59 PM  
Cops investigating a crime?
Yeah I'm really outraged.
 
2014-04-13 01:48:24 PM  
46 year old Face paint artist = drug dealer
 
2014-04-13 01:48:53 PM  

GCD: Maybe growing things hydroponically is big elsewhere, but around where I live, if you're purchasing "gardening supplies" at a hydroponics shop, there's a good chance you're growing more than just tomatoes with it.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the hydroponics shops here are required to keep a list of their customers


What's the issue with having a list of the customers or their purchases the DEA can get at any time? It's apparently the best thing we can do for guns...

In all seriousness after that troll, fark the DEA and these stupid arsehats and agencies (Holder, DHS, DEA, EPA). Is this really the best way to spend/waste tax dollars? But then again, this is the kinda thing we've voted for as a country for about 20 years. Tough on crime ya'll.
 
2014-04-13 01:49:00 PM  

Creoena: It's a good thing we went after this hardened criminal.  The world is now a safer place.


How do you know if a person is a criminal if you don't investigate?
 
2014-04-13 01:49:06 PM  
I know I've said in the past, I think here but maybe another forum, that I wanted to try Hydroponic gardening. There's a store about 2 miles from me called Brew & Grow
But I'm afraid if I go there and get the stuff I need, this will happen. Or maybe I shouldn't worry and actually hope it happens. I could use some money.
 
2014-04-13 01:50:56 PM  

pedrop357: ferretman: [sheikyermami.com image 500x400]

I wish he had as much power as Bush did during his 8 years.  Maybe then we could get Obama to keep his promises of dialing back these kinds of abuses.


don't pretend like he'd do anything anyway, he could even symbolically propose it, but hasn't and won't. It doesn't affect him. If he wants a puff, I'm sure he just goes down to the White House basement and grabs anub
 
2014-04-13 01:51:33 PM  
A nug*

Ugh stupid ipad
 
2014-04-13 01:51:43 PM  

Begoggle: Cops investigating a crime?
Yeah I'm really outraged.


-10/10

lrn2troll
 
2014-04-13 01:52:41 PM  

MichiganFTL: GCD: Maybe growing things hydroponically is big elsewhere, but around where I live, if you're purchasing "gardening supplies" at a hydroponics shop, there's a good chance you're growing more than just tomatoes with it.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the hydroponics shops here are required to keep a list of their customers

What's the issue with having a list of the customers or their purchases the DEA can get at any time? It's apparently the best thing we can do for guns...

In all seriousness after that troll, fark the DEA and these stupid arsehats and agencies (Holder, DHS, DEA, EPA). Is this really the best way to spend/waste tax dollars? But then again, this is the kinda thing we've voted for as a country for about 20 years. Tough on crime ya'll.


Yep...and to the kind of people who are "outraged", this kind of thing is only a problem when a Democrat is president.

/Or, in other words, why decry it when Holder's in charge and not when Ashcroft or Mukasey was?
 
2014-04-13 01:52:49 PM  
C'mon, I was expecting this line by now. I am disappointed in yall, lol

from: imdb.com

Winston: Charles, why have we got that cage?
Charles: Uh, security.
Winston: That's right, that's right, security. So what's the point in having it if we're not goin' farking use it?
">Charles: Well, I would've used it but this is Willie and Willie lives here.
Winston: Yes, but you didn't know it was Willie until you opened the door, did you?
">Willie: Chill, Winston, it's me. Charlie knows it's me. What's the problem?
Winston: The problem, Willie, is that Charles and yourself are not the quickest of cats at the best of times. So just do as I say and keep *the farking cage locked!* What is that?
Winston: Yes I know that's Gloria, what's that?
Willie: Fertilizer.
">Winston: You went out six hours ago to buy a money counter and you come back with a semi-conscious Gloria and a bag of fertilizer. Alarm bells are ringing, Willie.
Willie: We need fertilizer Winston.
">Winston: Mmmhmm. We also need a money counter. This money's got to be out by Thursday, I'm buggered if I'm gonna count it. Just make sure if you do need to buy sodding fertilizer you could be a bit more subtle.
">Willie: What do you mean?
">Winston: We grow copious amounts of ganja, yah? And you're carrying a wasted girl and a bag of fertilizer. You don't look like your average horti-farking- culturalist! That's what I mean Willie.
 
2014-04-13 01:53:20 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: Benevolent Misanthrope: Well if that's not enough for a warrant, I don't know what is.

If you read further in the article, that was enough to investigate her further.   She had marijuana residue in her trash, and THAT was the evidence used to get the search warrant.


FTA:Another officer conducted a field test on a green plant stem, which allegedly tested positive for marijuana. That was enough for a judge to sign a warrant.
An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow.


Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

/I never throw my stems in the trash, I either burn them or flush them.
 
2014-04-13 01:53:29 PM  
Maybe, as part of the "War on Terror" we should be launching drone strikes against the DEA and judges that approve these bullshiat warrants?
 
2014-04-13 01:55:48 PM  

MichiganFTL: pedrop357: ferretman: [sheikyermami.com image 500x400]

I wish he had as much power as Bush did during his 8 years.  Maybe then we could get Obama to keep his promises of dialing back these kinds of abuses.

don't pretend like he'd do anything anyway, he could even symbolically propose it, but hasn't and won't. It doesn't affect him. If he wants a puff, I'm sure he just goes down to the White House basement and grabs anub


Oh, I know he wouldn't do anything.  Just doing some trolling/mocking of Obama supporters, specifically those who think Obama is so much better than Bush
 
2014-04-13 01:56:00 PM  
I"m gonna have to smoke a medical and rethink my trust in the DEA.

/I feel so dirty for posting that
 
2014-04-13 01:56:13 PM  

IlGreven: MichiganFTL: GCD: Maybe growing things hydroponically is big elsewhere, but around where I live, if you're purchasing "gardening supplies" at a hydroponics shop, there's a good chance you're growing more than just tomatoes with it.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the hydroponics shops here are required to keep a list of their customers

What's the issue with having a list of the customers or their purchases the DEA can get at any time? It's apparently the best thing we can do for guns...

In all seriousness after that troll, fark the DEA and these stupid arsehats and agencies (Holder, DHS, DEA, EPA). Is this really the best way to spend/waste tax dollars? But then again, this is the kinda thing we've voted for as a country for about 20 years. Tough on crime ya'll.

Yep...and to the kind of people who are "outraged", this kind of thing is only a problem when a Democrat is president.

/Or, in other words, why decry it when Holder's in charge and not when Ashcroft or Mukasey was?


over the last 20 years we've had more than just D presidents, they've all been the same with this. Fortunately, we're making headway on decriminalizing and making things more mainstream and accepted when real facts are shown. And there's a lot of ppl who raised issue with it regardless of party affiliation. It's best to just vote for who holds your values/issues rather than a letter.
 
2014-04-13 01:56:47 PM  

tjsands1118: Sum Dum Gai: Benevolent Misanthrope: Well if that's not enough for a warrant, I don't know what is.

If you read further in the article, that was enough to investigate her further.   She had marijuana residue in her trash, and THAT was the evidence used to get the search warrant.

FTA:Another officer conducted a field test on a green plant stem, which allegedly tested positive for marijuana. That was enough for a judge to sign a warrant.
An application for a search warrant for a different Midwest Hydroganics customer, Tomczak noted, stated that police had found no evidence of marijuana plant residue in the trash -- and suggested that was evidence a suspect was covering up his marijuana grow.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

/I never throw my stems in the trash, I either burn them or flush them.


Wow. 'We didn't find any evidence, and that is evidence that the perp is going to great lengths to cover up the evidence, so we need a warrant to uncover the hidden evidence.'

Just... wow.
 
2014-04-13 01:56:59 PM  

drumhellar: Maybe, as part of the "War on Terror" we should be launching drone strikes against the DEA and judges that approve these bullshiat warrants?


Along with seizing everything they own via civil forfeiture proceedings.
 
2014-04-13 01:57:01 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: In the search warrant application, a Braidwood, Ill., police officer assigned to the DEA, Donn Kaminski, wrote that he had observed Kirking exit the garden store "carrying a green plastic bag containing unknown items."

Well if that's not enough for a warrant, I don't know what is.

Seriously, y'all - WTF?


Reagan's "battle flag" continues to fly, folks, only, well, all of you are now the enemy. The war machine needs to be fed, and if a few innocents are fed to it, well, so what? That's the tradeoff Saint Ronnie made, and which every damned asshole in the White House has since supported. Combine that with the militarization of cops in America, and the push towards authoritarian control, and "shiat happens," I guess.

This is the America for which you voted, after all. You wanted this to happen. Feel safer yet? We still have drug dealers, and cartels, and addiction, but now folks not involved with drugs have travel pat-downs, and warrants given on falsified attestation, and no-knock invasions of people's homes for no reason other than "I saw her carrying a green plastic bag containing unknown items."

This is what you wanted. Don't want it? Get off your asses and vote. Most Americans don't vote, even in the "important" elections. You don't want to be treated as an enemy by your local, state, and federal government? You don't want to be dragged off to jail and given mandatory sentencing that groups you in with rapists and thugs because you grew pot in your home? Vote.
 
2014-04-13 01:58:56 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-04-13 01:59:08 PM  
You'd think the article would have focused more on the completely innocent family the DEA raided than on a woman who actually was growing pot.

/the sooner we legalize it and come to our collective senses with how to deal with drugs in general the better.
 
2014-04-13 01:59:21 PM  
so that's why Home Depot was "sold out" of the $2.00 sale bags of it today.  The cops must have confiscated it all.
 
2014-04-13 01:59:59 PM  

abhorrent1: I know I've said in the past, I think here but maybe another forum, that I wanted to try Hydroponic gardening. There's a store about 2 miles from me called Brew & Grow
But I'm afraid if I go there and get the stuff I need, this will happen. Or maybe I shouldn't worry and actually hope it happens. I could use some money.


Heh, that same store just popped up a couple blocks from me last year.  I had to check your location and ask if you've tried the new bbq joint right next door.  But turns out not the same location.
 
2014-04-13 02:00:14 PM  
America is pretty much a shiathole, and hardly a free country.
 
2014-04-13 02:00:57 PM  

IlGreven: MichiganFTL: GCD: Maybe growing things hydroponically is big elsewhere, but around where I live, if you're purchasing "gardening supplies" at a hydroponics shop, there's a good chance you're growing more than just tomatoes with it.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the hydroponics shops here are required to keep a list of their customers

What's the issue with having a list of the customers or their purchases the DEA can get at any time? It's apparently the best thing we can do for guns...

In all seriousness after that troll, fark the DEA and these stupid arsehats and agencies (Holder, DHS, DEA, EPA). Is this really the best way to spend/waste tax dollars? But then again, this is the kinda thing we've voted for as a country for about 20 years. Tough on crime ya'll.

Yep...and to the kind of people who are "outraged", this kind of thing is only a problem when a Democrat is president.

/Or, in other words, why decry it when Holder's in charge and not when Ashcroft or Mukasey was?


We did. fark yourself.
 
2014-04-13 02:01:17 PM  

JerkyMeat: America is pretty much a shiathole, and hardly a free country.


it's a free country as long as you can afford to pay for it
 
2014-04-13 02:02:44 PM  

MichiganFTL: GCD: Maybe growing things hydroponically is big elsewhere, but around where I live, if you're purchasing "gardening supplies" at a hydroponics shop, there's a good chance you're growing more than just tomatoes with it.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the hydroponics shops here are required to keep a list of their customers

What's the issue with having a list of the customers or their purchases the DEA can get at any time? It's apparently the best thing we can do for guns...

In all seriousness after that troll, fark the DEA and these stupid arsehats and agencies (Holder, DHS, DEA, EPA). Is this really the best way to spend/waste tax dollars? But then again, this is the kinda thing we've voted for as a country for about 20 years. Tough on crime ya'll.



ODD: Yesterday in the thread concerning the cattle rancher and the BLM I said this very thing (If the guy was busted for growing marijuana on public lands Fark would implode with indignation). I was called "silly" and "sounding like someone who just started college".Now that someone has been busted because they smoke pot the indignation strikes. All you Obamanations who was hating on the private citizen for standing up to the "government" are now frothing with indignation because the "government" busted a pothead.


/But, but, but......!
 
2014-04-13 02:02:54 PM  

abhorrent1: Begoggle: Cops investigating a crime?
Yeah I'm really outraged.

-10/10

lrn2troll


The police observed her leaving a shop that supplies only items to grow ileagal crops, they investigated further. They filled out a warrant application before a judge and the judge signed it. This is how the system works. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.


:: better?
 
2014-04-13 02:03:08 PM  

Begoggle: Creoena: It's a good thing we went after this hardened criminal.  The world is now a safer place.

How do you know if a person is a criminal if you don't investigate?


If your comment isn't a Poe's law thing...

Innocent until proven guilty?

/ Quaint, I know.
 
2014-04-13 02:05:52 PM  
I hid mine in my garden, buried under some mulch.  They'll never find it.
 
2014-04-13 02:06:56 PM  

Bslim: "...a 46-year-old face-paint artist."


A whaaaaaaaaat?


Pretty much my reaction. I'm thinking the DEA did the right thing for the wrong reason....blind squirrel and all that...
 
2014-04-13 02:08:06 PM  
It's all going according to Big Marijuana's plan. (Profit$)
 
2014-04-13 02:08:15 PM  

Lee451: MichiganFTL: GCD: Maybe growing things hydroponically is big elsewhere, but around where I live, if you're purchasing "gardening supplies" at a hydroponics shop, there's a good chance you're growing more than just tomatoes with it.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the hydroponics shops here are required to keep a list of their customers

What's the issue with having a list of the customers or their purchases the DEA can get at any time? It's apparently the best thing we can do for guns...

In all seriousness after that troll, fark the DEA and these stupid arsehats and agencies (Holder, DHS, DEA, EPA). Is this really the best way to spend/waste tax dollars? But then again, this is the kinda thing we've voted for as a country for about 20 years. Tough on crime ya'll.


ODD: Yesterday in the thread concerning the cattle rancher and the BLM I said this very thing (If the guy was busted for growing marijuana on public lands Fark would implode with indignation). I was called "silly" and "sounding like someone who just started college".Now that someone has been busted because they smoke pot the indignation strikes. All you Obamanations who was hating on the private citizen for standing up to the "government" are now frothing with indignation because the "government" busted a pothead.


/But, but, but......!


not an obama slappy, but Romney wouldn't do anything different. Most likely would be supportive of taking down some 'bad druggies'. Govt being govt, won't change, doesn't matter the letter.

Also, I think people who are D, R or other all agree that agencies like the DEA, DHS, EPA and others are bloated and need to be heavily curtailed/depowered. It's not a specific 'my guy' political affiliation issue with this or Bundy, but personal freedom and what's right.
 
2014-04-13 02:08:48 PM  

tjsands1118: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.


Well, that says an application for a warrant - it doesn't say if the warrant was granted in that case, nor does it say what evidence was presented in that warrant application.
 
2014-04-13 02:09:04 PM  
Just more examples of oppressing rather than empowering the masses.
 
2014-04-13 02:10:05 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: abhorrent1: Begoggle: Cops investigating a crime?
Yeah I'm really outraged.

-10/10

lrn2troll

The police observed her leaving a shop that supplies only items to grow ileagal crops, they investigated further. They filled out a warrant application before a judge and the judge signed it. This is how the system works. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.


:: better?

 No. Keep trying though. Trolling is an art and is hard to master in your first year on the internet. You'll get the hang of it eventually.
 
2014-04-13 02:12:15 PM  

GCD: Maybe growing things hydroponically is big elsewhere, but around where I live, if you're purchasing "gardening supplies" at a hydroponics shop, there's a good chance you're growing more than just tomatoes with it.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, the hydroponics shops here are required to keep a list of their customers


So what if it's often used for grows?  That's no justification to trample on the Constitution.
 
2014-04-13 02:12:19 PM  
We will have to wait until there is an "R" in the Whitehouse for FarkLibs to give two shiats about stuff like this again.
 
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