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(Science Magazine)   In New York City, 22 year old Measles Mary contracted measles and passed it along to four others. Difficulty: all five of these people should have been immune. Measles Mary and two of the others had actually been vaccinated   (news.sciencemag.org) divider line 201
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2014-04-12 11:29:55 PM

Target Builder: Frederick: Ambivalence: Frederick: Good thing we got rid of all those cars killing children.

Cars are a lot safer for children than they used to be.  That whole frakas about requiring back up cameras is specificly intended to protect children.

Is that true?  I dont know the statistics.  I did just read about a kid getting killed by a car yesterday though.  Havent read about a kid getting killed by measles (although I did just read a story about measles where no one died).

Well, here's a story where a kid did die:


An example from 1962.  And how does that compare to automobile related deaths of children which was the point of the post you replied to?

Shall we compare automobile related children deaths to measles related childrens deaths?

/context -what is it?
 
2014-04-12 11:30:37 PM

RoyBatty: Is that a test commonly covered by insurance?


If you work in a clinical setting where the are shingles patients, or there is an expectation of exposure to chickenpox, then your employer should cover it.

Out of pocket, the Varicella Titer test costs about 300 bucks locally.
 
2014-04-12 11:31:09 PM

Frederick: LordJiro: And you missed the point of his answer. They don't just take THEMSELVES out of the gene pool. They put other people at risk. Even people who have been vaccinated.

No, I got the point.  I wasnt interested in his point.  I was interested in an answer to the question.


"He answered the question, but I want him to answer the question!"
 
2014-04-12 11:31:25 PM

JoieD'Zen: Triumph: we'refromthesamestory: All vaccinations in general are doing is creating superbacteria

Please proceed.

Antibiotics lower  natural resistance to all diseases and create the superbugs.


Retard or troll.  <notsure.gif>
 
2014-04-12 11:31:28 PM

Lsherm: jmcgeathy: All of you people talking about how your parents intentionally exposed you to chicken pox as a kid and it didn't kill you can thank them when you get shingles and wish you were dead. That chicken pox virus is in your body lying dormant and later in life will wake back up, latch onto nerve cells and will cause you more pain then you've ever experienced.

Enjoy.

Also, every case of measles is a chance for the virus to mutant inside the host then spread in a form that the vaccines the rest of us got can't defend against. So.. you're putting everyone at risk. Everyone. These diseases can and do kill people and who knows how deadly a mutated version will be. So.. thanks.

Good farking Christ, there wasn't a vaccine for it when we were kids, and getting chickenpox as an adult for the first time is far worse than getting a case of shingles after you've already have chickenpox as a kid.  Sure, getting a vaccine is infinitely preferable, but since it wasn't available, pox parties were the best option.  Bonus?  You can still get the vaccine today even if you had chickenpox as a kid.


Ya they had limited information, now we know better.. yet all of the idiots are using "well it didn't kill me" as a way to blow off the importance of vaccinations. And they aren't just effecting themselves and their kids, they are putting every single person at risk of preventable illnesses that can lead to long term complications and death. And since they are such smart, brave, strong people who didn't die from chicken pox it's unlikely they would bother with a shingles vaccines either.

Then.. karma hits.
 
2014-04-12 11:31:43 PM

hardinparamedic: Frederick: Ambivalence: Frederick: Good thing we got rid of all those cars killing children.

Cars are a lot safer for children than they used to be.  That whole frakas about requiring back up cameras is specificly intended to protect children.

Is that true?  I dont know the statistics.  I did just read about a kid getting killed by a car yesterday though.  Havent read about a kid getting killed by measles (although I did just read a story about measles where no one died).

Are you farking insane? Measles results in a 1:1000 case chance of being permanently disabled secondary to measles encephalopathy. If we stopped vaccinating, 2.7  Million children would die a year. Rate of death is 1:4500


You missed the point.  Again context.
 
2014-04-12 11:32:50 PM

Ambivalence: Lsherm: Ambivalence: Actually, kids did die (even of chicken pox).  That's kind of why they made the vaccines in the first place.

I was pre-chicken pox vaccine.  If kids were dying, it was very rare.  Chicken-pox parties in the 70's were extremely popular, especially if a patient-zero kid in the neighborhood got it during the summer, because that meant kids wouldn't miss school.  I went to mine in June,1969 with at least ten other kids.  The kid who got it first had a pool at his house, so it was all good as far as we were concerned.

No one died.  And honestly, we were at a far greater risk of drowning than dying of Chicken-pox.

It was rare, but it did happen.  That is why now (that they have a vaccine) they're telling parents not to have chicken pox parties anymore because the vaccine is safer than contracting the disease.  Any disease can have complications, sometimes fatal.


You mean that a malicious bit of genetic code in the bloodstream which has symptomatic presentation in the form of skin pustules could be bad for the genetic crapshoot that is human life?

Who knew!!
 
2014-04-12 11:33:03 PM

MadAzza: Frederick: LordJiro: And you missed the point of his answer. They don't just take THEMSELVES out of the gene pool. They put other people at risk. Even people who have been vaccinated.

No, I got the point.  I wasnt interested in his point.  I was interested in an answer to the question.

"He answered the question, but I want him to answer the question!"


It was a "yes" or "no" question.  Does that confuse you?
 
2014-04-12 11:33:31 PM

Frederick: An example from 1962.  And how does that compare to automobile related deaths of children which was the point of the post you replied to?

Shall we compare automobile related children deaths to measles related childrens deaths?

/context -what is it?


Let's also compare apples to the 120mm APFSDS shell from the M1A2 Abrams MBT. It'll be totally relevant derp!

Measles kills horribly. One of it's most heartwrenching ways is Measles Encephalopathy.

It also predisposes children to massive secondary infection.
 
2014-04-12 11:34:34 PM

Frederick: You missed the point.  Again context


You said you didn't know measles could kill. This was shown to be factually incorrect. Do you have anything more to add to this?
 
2014-04-12 11:34:47 PM

RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 620x156]


I had a friend that told me when he was little he wasn't taking off to well. His parents renamed him and then he did fine.
 
2014-04-12 11:35:46 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: JoieD'Zen: Triumph: we'refromthesamestory: All vaccinations in general are doing is creating superbacteria

Please proceed.

Antibiotics lower  natural resistance to all diseases and create the superbugs.

*WHOOSH*


ALL Diseases! Do you hear? These viral immunizations of antibiotics lower our resistance to super cancer!
 
2014-04-12 11:36:28 PM

jmcgeathy: All of you people talking about how your parents intentionally exposed you to chicken pox as a kid and it didn't kill you can thank them when you get shingles and wish you were dead. That chicken pox virus is in your body lying dormant and later in life will wake back up, latch onto nerve cells and will cause you more pain then you've ever experienced.

Enjoy.

Also, every case of measles is a chance for the virus to mutant inside the host then spread in a form that the vaccines the rest of us got can't defend against. So.. you're putting everyone at risk. Everyone. These diseases can and do kill people and who knows how deadly a mutated version will be. So.. thanks.


Having chicken pox doesn't mean you will have shingles.

You can get shingles and never had chicken pox.
 
2014-04-12 11:36:49 PM

vincentfox: brilett: Wait till you get shingles. You'll love it!

My parents get sometimes quite nasty outbreaks of shingles.

Glad my generation had chicken pox vaccine, versus having to deal with THAT in my old age.



You can still get it.  Sleep tight.
 
2014-04-12 11:37:37 PM

Alicious: Lsherm: Ambivalence: Actually, kids did die (even of chicken pox).  That's kind of why they made the vaccines in the first place.

I was pre-chicken pox vaccine.  If kids were dying, it was very rare.  Chicken-pox parties in the 70's were extremely popular, especially if a patient-zero kid in the neighborhood got it during the summer, because that meant kids wouldn't miss school.  I went to mine in June,1969 with at least ten other kids.  The kid who got it first had a pool at his house, so it was all good as far as we were concerned.

No one died.  And honestly, we were at a far greater risk of drowning than dying of Chicken-pox.

I was pre-chicken pox vaccine too. One of my classmates got chicken pox in her throat and on the insides of her eyelids. She spent several weeks in the hospital for it.

One of my mother's college friend's husband got chicken pox when he was forty. It nearly killed him and he spent 3 months in the hospital from it.


Mick Jones, guitarist for the Clash, nearly died from chicken pox as an adult.
 
2014-04-12 11:37:43 PM

shtychkn: jmcgeathy: All of you people talking about how your parents intentionally exposed you to chicken pox as a kid and it didn't kill you can thank them when you get shingles and wish you were dead. That chicken pox virus is in your body lying dormant and later in life will wake back up, latch onto nerve cells and will cause you more pain then you've ever experienced.

Enjoy.

Also, every case of measles is a chance for the virus to mutant inside the host then spread in a form that the vaccines the rest of us got can't defend against. So.. you're putting everyone at risk. Everyone. These diseases can and do kill people and who knows how deadly a mutated version will be. So.. thanks.

Having chicken pox doesn't mean you will have shingles.

You can get shingles and never had chicken pox.


You have no idea what shingles is, do you?

/Hint: it's caused by the chicken pox virus.
 
2014-04-12 11:38:02 PM

vincentfox: brilett: Wait till you get shingles. You'll love it!

My parents get sometimes quite nasty outbreaks of shingles.

Glad my generation had chicken pox vaccine, versus having to deal with THAT in my old age.


Guess what. You can still get shingles!
 
2014-04-12 11:38:06 PM

hardinparamedic: Frederick: You missed the point.  Again context

You said you didn't know measles could kill.


No I didnt.

Frederick:
Ambivalence: Frederick: Good thing we got rid of all those cars killing children.

Cars are a lot safer for children than they used to be.  That whole frakas about requiring back up cameras is specificly intended to protect children.

Is that true?  I dont know the statistics.  I did just read about a kid getting killed by a car yesterday though.  Havent read about a kid getting killed by measles (although I did just read a story about measles where no one died).
 
2014-04-12 11:38:18 PM

Ambivalence: Frederick: Good thing we got rid of all those cars killing children.

Cars are a lot safer for children than they used to be.  That whole frakas about requiring back up cameras is specificly intended to protect children.


It might not if the kids aborted so the parents can afford a car to get to their jobs.
 
2014-04-12 11:38:42 PM

shtychkn: You can get shingles and never had chicken pox.


Shingles is caused by latent herpesvirus infection in nerve roots that suddenly becomes active. Chicken Pox is the most common mechanism for it. HSV-1 and HSV-2 infection, such as herpes encephalitis or systemic herpes sepsis, or severe genital herpes can also cause it, they're just less common.
 
2014-04-12 11:39:16 PM

Frederick: MadAzza: Frederick: LordJiro: And you missed the point of his answer. They don't just take THEMSELVES out of the gene pool. They put other people at risk. Even people who have been vaccinated.

No, I got the point.  I wasnt interested in his point.  I was interested in an answer to the question.

"He answered the question, but I want him to answer the question!"

It was a "yes" or "no" question.  Does that confuse you?


I'm not the one who's confused, Sugar Balls. Your question has been answered, by the OP and several others. Take off the blinders and read them again.
 
2014-04-12 11:39:21 PM

jmcgeathy: Ya they had limited information, now we know better.. yet all of the idiots are using "well it didn't kill me" as a way to blow off the importance of vaccinations. And they aren't just effecting themselves and their kids, they are putting every single person at risk of preventable illnesses that can lead to long term complications and death. And since they are such smart, brave, strong people who didn't die from chicken pox it's unlikely they would bother with a shingles vaccines either.

Then.. karma hits.


I don't think anyone was using "it didn't kill me" as a reason to not get vaccinations.  If I was giving off that vibe, my apologies.  I was poorly pointing out that if chickenpox didn't kill the 12 kids in my neighborhood growing up that a vaccine certainly wasn't going to do anything worse.  Or that chicken pox really wasn't that horrible (but it was).
 
2014-04-12 11:39:39 PM
Frederick: Havent read about a kid getting killed by measles (although I did just read a story about measles where no one died).

Backtrack or troll. Which is it?
 
2014-04-12 11:39:49 PM

Triumph: ecmoRandomNumbers: JoieD'Zen: Triumph: we'refromthesamestory: All vaccinations in general are doing is creating superbacteria

Please proceed.

Antibiotics lower  natural resistance to all diseases and create the superbugs.

*WHOOSH*

ALL Diseases! Do you hear? These viral immunizations of antibiotics lower our resistance to super cancer!


Yep, every last motherf*cki'n one of 'em.
ALL
OF
THEM
 
2014-04-12 11:39:56 PM

shtychkn: jmcgeathy: All of you people talking about how your parents intentionally exposed you to chicken pox as a kid and it didn't kill you can thank them when you get shingles and wish you were dead. That chicken pox virus is in your body lying dormant and later in life will wake back up, latch onto nerve cells and will cause you more pain then you've ever experienced.

Enjoy.

Also, every case of measles is a chance for the virus to mutant inside the host then spread in a form that the vaccines the rest of us got can't defend against. So.. you're putting everyone at risk. Everyone. These diseases can and do kill people and who knows how deadly a mutated version will be. So.. thanks.

Having chicken pox doesn't mean you will have shingles.

You can get shingles and never had chicken pox.


http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/features/shingles-chickenpox

"Research begun in the 1950s has shown that when we recover from childhood chickenpox infections, the virus that causes the infection, varicella zoster virus, remains latent in nerve cells.
What causes reactivation of the virus is unclear, but as we age, experts believe the immune responses that keep varicella zoster virus dormant in the nerves weaken with age. One in three people will get shingles during their lifetime, and at least half of all people 85 and older have had the ailment."

and

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/default.h tm
Shingles Overview
Shingles, or herpes zoster, is a viral infection caused by the chickenpox virus


If they get shingles and didn't previously get chicken pox, they actually caught chicken pox and it presented as shingles. It's the same virus. So.. get your vaccines kids.
 
2014-04-12 11:40:05 PM

shtychkn: Having chicken pox doesn't mean you will have shingles.

You can get shingles and never had chicken pox.



Herpes are like assholes: everyone has (at least) one (kind).

At least humans can't die of it. Elephant herpes is like the worst thing ever.
 
2014-04-12 11:41:42 PM

yukichigai: shtychkn: jmcgeathy: All of you people talking about how your parents intentionally exposed you to chicken pox as a kid and it didn't kill you can thank them when you get shingles and wish you were dead. That chicken pox virus is in your body lying dormant and later in life will wake back up, latch onto nerve cells and will cause you more pain then you've ever experienced.

Enjoy.

Also, every case of measles is a chance for the virus to mutant inside the host then spread in a form that the vaccines the rest of us got can't defend against. So.. you're putting everyone at risk. Everyone. These diseases can and do kill people and who knows how deadly a mutated version will be. So.. thanks.

Having chicken pox doesn't mean you will have shingles.

You can get shingles and never had chicken pox.

You have no idea what shingles is, do you?

/Hint: it's caused by the chicken pox virus.


It's caused by any herpes virus, not just herpes zoster.
 
2014-04-12 11:42:18 PM
22 huh?

Did she get the recommended booster?
 
2014-04-12 11:42:34 PM

doglover: At least humans can't die of it.


Oh yes they can. Neonatal herpes leads to herpes sepsis and herpes encephalopathy.

And you don't want to know what happens if you're immunocompromised. Hint: Multisystem Organ Failure.
 
2014-04-12 11:43:03 PM

MadAzza: yukichigai: shtychkn: jmcgeathy: All of you people talking about how your parents intentionally exposed you to chicken pox as a kid and it didn't kill you can thank them when you get shingles and wish you were dead. That chicken pox virus is in your body lying dormant and later in life will wake back up, latch onto nerve cells and will cause you more pain then you've ever experienced.

Enjoy.

Also, every case of measles is a chance for the virus to mutant inside the host then spread in a form that the vaccines the rest of us got can't defend against. So.. you're putting everyone at risk. Everyone. These diseases can and do kill people and who knows how deadly a mutated version will be. So.. thanks.

Having chicken pox doesn't mean you will have shingles.

You can get shingles and never had chicken pox.

You have no idea what shingles is, do you?

/Hint: it's caused by the chicken pox virus.

It's caused by any herpes virus, not just herpes zoster.


Herpes zoster can show up in the eye as well.
 
2014-04-12 11:44:41 PM

Lsherm: JoieD'Zen: Suck it herd people. Why have the vaccines if you can still get the disease?

Because as they pointed out in the article, she was an outlier, not a common case.  All it means is you may need a booster shot again later in life.  And you'll probably need a booster shot because idiots won't vaccinate their kids, thus making the risk of exposure exponentially higher because of stupid.


The need for measles boosters has been known since at least 1978 when I got my measles booster at the age of 15. Duh.
 
2014-04-12 11:45:08 PM

Target Builder: On one side we have almost every single doctor, immunologist and epidemiologist in the world, with millions of collective years of experience


fark all your mother farkers weez got hotdogs yo

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2014-04-12 11:45:11 PM

JoieD'Zen: MadAzza: yukichigai: shtychkn: jmcgeathy: All of you people talking about how your parents intentionally exposed you to chicken pox as a kid and it didn't kill you can thank them when you get shingles and wish you were dead. That chicken pox virus is in your body lying dormant and later in life will wake back up, latch onto nerve cells and will cause you more pain then you've ever experienced.

Enjoy.

Also, every case of measles is a chance for the virus to mutant inside the host then spread in a form that the vaccines the rest of us got can't defend against. So.. you're putting everyone at risk. Everyone. These diseases can and do kill people and who knows how deadly a mutated version will be. So.. thanks.

Having chicken pox doesn't mean you will have shingles.

You can get shingles and never had chicken pox.

You have no idea what shingles is, do you?

/Hint: it's caused by the chicken pox virus.

It's caused by any herpes virus, not just herpes zoster.

Herpes zoster can show up in the eye as well.


Yes, it can. My ex-husband gets occasional bouts of eye herpes. The only place he had it. It was extremely painful.
 
2014-04-12 11:47:22 PM

Lsherm: jmcgeathy: Ya they had limited information, now we know better.. yet all of the idiots are using "well it didn't kill me" as a way to blow off the importance of vaccinations. And they aren't just effecting themselves and their kids, they are putting every single person at risk of preventable illnesses that can lead to long term complications and death. And since they are such smart, brave, strong people who didn't die from chicken pox it's unlikely they would bother with a shingles vaccines either.

Then.. karma hits.

I don't think anyone was using "it didn't kill me" as a reason to not get vaccinations.  If I was giving off that vibe, my apologies.  I was poorly pointing out that if chickenpox didn't kill the 12 kids in my neighborhood growing up that a vaccine certainly wasn't going to do anything worse.  Or that chicken pox really wasn't that horrible (but it was).


Naw, you were more downplaying the seriousness of chickenpox, which on it's own is for most people an annoyance.. until they get shingles. I've seen that put men on their knees crying for Vicodin. It sucks.

Frederick has been the main "stop being pussies, it's didn't kill me" anti vaccine troll in the thread. Most of this is directed in that direction. :)
 
2014-04-12 11:47:27 PM

0z79: You mean that a malicious bit of genetic code in the bloodstream which has symptomatic presentation in the form of skin pustules could be bad for the genetic crapshoot that is human life?

Who knew!!


What is it, 40% of the human genome is derived from viruses? (took a biology class last semester).  I always wondered what kind of stuff they left behind.  What virus can account for the oddities of human existance? Or pretty much any animal existance (viruses get around).
 
2014-04-12 11:47:49 PM

MadAzza: yukichigai: shtychkn: jmcgeathy: All of you people talking about how your parents intentionally exposed you to chicken pox as a kid and it didn't kill you can thank them when you get shingles and wish you were dead. That chicken pox virus is in your body lying dormant and later in life will wake back up, latch onto nerve cells and will cause you more pain then you've ever experienced.

Enjoy.

Also, every case of measles is a chance for the virus to mutant inside the host then spread in a form that the vaccines the rest of us got can't defend against. So.. you're putting everyone at risk. Everyone. These diseases can and do kill people and who knows how deadly a mutated version will be. So.. thanks.

Having chicken pox doesn't mean you will have shingles.

You can get shingles and never had chicken pox.

You have no idea what shingles is, do you?

/Hint: it's caused by the chicken pox virus.

It's caused by any herpes virus, not just herpes zoster.


Shingles by definition is caused by the zoster virus.  If it's not zoster it's not shingles, regardless of symptoms.
 
2014-04-12 11:48:11 PM

MadAzza: JoieD'Zen: MadAzza: yukichigai: shtychkn: jmcgeathy: All of you people talking about how your parents intentionally exposed you to chicken pox as a kid and it didn't kill you can thank them when you get shingles and wish you were dead. That chicken pox virus is in your body lying dormant and later in life will wake back up, latch onto nerve cells and will cause you more pain then you've ever experienced.

Enjoy.

Also, every case of measles is a chance for the virus to mutant inside the host then spread in a form that the vaccines the rest of us got can't defend against. So.. you're putting everyone at risk. Everyone. These diseases can and do kill people and who knows how deadly a mutated version will be. So.. thanks.

Having chicken pox doesn't mean you will have shingles.

You can get shingles and never had chicken pox.

You have no idea what shingles is, do you?

/Hint: it's caused by the chicken pox virus.

It's caused by any herpes virus, not just herpes zoster.

Herpes zoster can show up in the eye as well.

Yes, it can. My ex-husband gets occasional bouts of eye herpes. The only place he had it. It was extremely painful.


I really didn't need to know about eye herpes :\
 
2014-04-12 11:49:19 PM
All we know for sure is that vaccination enthusiasts are some very angry posters on FARK. Must be from getting stuck with needles all the time.
 
2014-04-12 11:49:25 PM

RoyBatty: 27B-6: Vaccines don't always work the first time you get them, and not all vaccines work well on everyoby. Immunity can also wear off after several years.
This is why it's important to have titers performed regularly.
A titer is a test where they take some of your blood to see if you actually have working antibodies against a disease.

Is that a test commonly covered by insurance


Many plans will cover titers. It's way cheaper for them to make sure everyone is actually immune than to pay for your treatment when you get sick.
 
2014-04-12 11:49:45 PM
Meh, boosters are made for a reason, too bad no one thinks to get them.
 
2014-04-12 11:50:23 PM

doglover: Elephant herpes is like the worst thing ever.


This was one of those times when I was hoping google wouldn't return any images..
 
2014-04-12 11:50:43 PM

StokeyBob: Ambivalence: Frederick: Good thing we got rid of all those cars killing children.

Cars are a lot safer for children than they used to be.  That whole frakas about requiring back up cameras is specificly intended to protect children.

It might not if the kids aborted so the parents can afford a car to get to their jobs.


Sometimes I wish I could encapsulate my look of extreme incredulity into an emoticon but I can't.

Go to bed, stokey, you're drunk.
 
2014-04-12 11:51:03 PM

jmcgeathy: Lsherm: jmcgeathy: Ya they had limited information, now we know better.. yet all of the idiots are using "well it didn't kill me" as a way to blow off the importance of vaccinations. And they aren't just effecting themselves and their kids, they are putting every single person at risk of preventable illnesses that can lead to long term complications and death. And since they are such smart, brave, strong people who didn't die from chicken pox it's unlikely they would bother with a shingles vaccines either.

Then.. karma hits.

I don't think anyone was using "it didn't kill me" as a reason to not get vaccinations.  If I was giving off that vibe, my apologies.  I was poorly pointing out that if chickenpox didn't kill the 12 kids in my neighborhood growing up that a vaccine certainly wasn't going to do anything worse.  Or that chicken pox really wasn't that horrible (but it was).

Naw, you were more downplaying the seriousness of chickenpox, which on it's own is for most people an annoyance.. until they get shingles. I've seen that put men on their knees crying for Vicodin. It sucks.



I had it when I was 16.  I don't believe I have ever been in that much pain in my life.
 
2014-04-12 11:51:32 PM

twistedmetal: Meh, boosters are made for a reason, too bad no one thinks to get them.


I have my TDaP and my flu shot.

MMR is what I need to get, but I pass out, so I have to make a doctor's appointment cause they won't give it to me at Target anymore.

Also, if the antivaccination stuff keeps up, they will just go back to forced in school vaccination, like how we eradicated polio in this country.
 
2014-04-12 11:51:35 PM

Ambivalence: What is it, 40% of the human genome is derived from viruses? (took a biology class last semester). I always wondered what kind of stuff they left behind. What virus can account for the oddities of human existance?


www.comedy.co.uk

Scientists are attempting to confirm the existence of the Reverse Flu virus, which gives the afflicted an unjustified sense of happiness and well-being.  Apparently morning DJs suffer from it constantly.
 
2014-04-12 11:51:57 PM
When I have friends that move to the west coast I always recommend they talk to their doc about vaccine boosters. I caught whopping cough about a year after I moved from the mid west to Oregon. To me whooping cough was something you read about in historical period pieces. Made me very grumbly at the anti-vaccine crowd.
 
2014-04-12 11:52:59 PM

jmcgeathy: I really didn't need to know about eye herpes :\


You do if you were planning on licking any eyes in the future.

Remember kids, practice safe eye-licking.  Always use a tongue condom.
 
2014-04-12 11:53:21 PM

shtychkn: jmcgeathy: All of you people talking about how your parents intentionally exposed you to chicken pox as a kid and it didn't kill you can thank them when you get shingles and wish you were dead. That chicken pox virus is in your body lying dormant and later in life will wake back up, latch onto nerve cells and will cause you more pain then you've ever experienced.

Enjoy.

Also, every case of measles is a chance for the virus to mutant inside the host then spread in a form that the vaccines the rest of us got can't defend against. So.. you're putting everyone at risk. Everyone. These diseases can and do kill people and who knows how deadly a mutated version will be. So.. thanks.

Having chicken pox doesn't mean you will have shingles.

You can get shingles and never had chicken pox.


That is not true.

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/shingles- to pic-overview

However, my kids' pediatrician did tell me that approximately 10% of the population gets chicken pox but does not develop the rash. We had that discussion because I have never had chicken pox and that was one possibility considered I was exposed to 2 different outbreaks in my grade school that had 1/2 the school out the first time and the other 1/2 out about 3 years later. I have been exposed to it many times since then.

I had to get a titer to see if I had any of the antibodies in my system before I could get the chicken pox vaccine.
 
2014-04-12 11:53:35 PM

vincentfox: brilett: Wait till you get shingles. You'll love it!

My parents get sometimes quite nasty outbreaks of shingles.

Glad my generation had chicken pox vaccine, versus having to deal with THAT in my old age.


Apparently it was around when I was a kid but I didn't get it before I got pox. No pox parties but I remember my mom reassuring me at least it'd never happen again so to take comfort in that. Think I gave it to my younger brother too, who should've definitely had it available via dates folks up thread quoted. Maybe my pediatrician wasn't on game. Wouldn't be the first instance, looking back.

Isn't there a shingles vaccine now/something that stops it from recurring? I remember reading something complaining about not enough older folks getting it...
 
2014-04-12 11:53:59 PM

yukichigai: jmcgeathy: I really didn't need to know about eye herpes :\

You do if you were planning on licking any eyes in the future.

Remember kids, practice safe eye-licking.  Always use a tongue condom.


can you get it in the ear?

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