Yankees Team Gynecologist: pdkl95: Well, it's at least 1 in 6 writers. We should add in all the people in jail that were not told the proper source of the "evidence" against them (probably because of parallel construction)I'm looking for a "body" count so to speak (not literal deaths, but persons hassled/persecuted). I understand that granting law enforcement this access opens the door to all kinds of abuses, so I'm interested in hearing the actual horror stories. Note that I'm not saying that I think it's low--I'm interested in whatever the result is, high, low, or anything in between. I don't see a lot of these specific stories around, but that could just mean they're not easy to document.
Rand's lacy underwear: Yankees Team Gynecologist: I think I did hear about at least a few cases where the federal government seems to have silenced or shut down some people and businesses.Like, everyone is wondering about Silkroad: https://pay.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/22qunq/just_how_vulnerable_was_ t or_to_heartbleed/
styckx: [i.imgur.com image 400x264]
Yankees Team Gynecologist: pdkl95: Yankees Team Gynecologist: Serious question--how many upstanding citizens have been/think they have been/are thought to have been farked by those NSA practices?I don't know - how do you count all the people that have self-censored themselves in their email, phone, and/or other online communications?Personally no, but that's open to discussion.
sanriosucks: What an incredible, monumental, epic boondoggle. Such flagrant waste, fraud, and abuse.
Doktor_Zhivago: My understanding is that it just spits out random memory blocks that may or may not be particularly useful. The NSA was installing back doors into hardware and has the ability to track actual phone calls so I don't see how this is particularly useful to them
MNguy: They're probably monitoring this thread, RIGHT NOW.
jshine: It'd seem paranoid ... except for all the well-documented nefarious plots that we've seen already.
sanriosucks: Someone brought this up in an earlier thread, but it's a perspective I had never really thought of;All things aside (which is hard to do, considering basic, fundamental American rights and all), all of that, put aside for just a moment,... What an incredible, monumental, epic boondoggle. Such flagrant waste, fraud, and abuse. The NSA has spent an untold amount on this.. We don't even get to know. And for what. Let's assume they know everything... They can't use it. They can't share it. We know for a fact they can't even look through it all.Can you imagine if they were scientist, ornithologist, say, and went to congress asking for a budget to collect everything imaginable on ivory billed woodpeckers.. An unlimited budget to collect all information on each of them. Each individual bird. How many mites were in their nest, etc.. And they had to promise in their budget to never, ever use the data. To collect more than they had the capability to process. For science, you know...
enry: Can we take all the "Thanks Obama" GIFs and replace then with NSA?No love lost between me and them but do we really need to think that the NSA really knows everything and is involved tangentially or actively in every nefarious plot out there?
unlikely: They're worse than what we thought the KGB were in the 80s.
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