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(UPI)   Third-world nation with thriving drug manufacturing trade and long history of political corruption strongly objects to presence of UN observers during elections. Wait, did we say "third-world nation"? Sorry, we meant Tennessee   (upi.com) divider line 12
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2014-04-12 10:45:31 AM  
2 votes:
Sorry, we meant Tennessee

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2014-04-12 12:35:54 PM  
1 votes:
As a resident of TN i am deeply concerned about the UN sending a peacekeeping force to terk my jerbs
2014-04-12 12:08:12 PM  
1 votes:

XveryYpettyZ: that's not the reason for the push for voter ID.  It's to suppress the vote of people who don't vote for Republicans.


That assumes that people who vote Republican are inherently responsible citizens.
2014-04-12 12:04:16 PM  
1 votes:

ReapTheChaos: Trocadero: Carousel Beast: brimed03: ReapTheChaos: Yogimus: Carousel Beast: FTFA: 44 observers from Europe's Organization for Security and Cooperation were sent to the United States in 2012 to determine if photo identification requirements, including those in Tennessee, affected voter turnout.

Can any of Fark's lefties give me a valid reason why ensuring only people actually allowed to vote do vote is a bad thing? Seriously, voting is the cornerstone of our entire society; yet every time someone mentions we might want to look into vote fraud, you guys scream like suck pigs. WTF?

Doesn't mater is it's dead people voting in Chicago or Diebold supposedly tampering with machines, our voting should be something we strive to be perfect on.

Even the most exaggerated claims of voter fraud are only a miniscule percentage of folks that have no means of identification.

The percentage of registered voters who have no valid ID are just as minuscule.

*sigh* Because, of course, in certain Republistan states you can't *be* a "registered voter" without valid ID.

You knew that, of course. You just hope to hook someone who didn't catch it.

Again, why is that wrong? So long as the State is providing free, validated identification, why do you object to ensuring the identity of the people forming the government?

But they don't. That costs money, that costs labor to staff the DMV/whatever to issue it, and w/ the extra security measures added after 9/11, it costs more money than before. And if Republicans have proven anything, it's that they love spending tax money on programs to help poor minorities vote more often.

While I can't speak for every state, here in Texas it is 100% free to people who need one. Link


By mail? Or do they need to show up somewhere? Will the state send someone to help the illiterate or those needing translations? Will the state furnish transportation to those in rural areas to the regional ID facilities? Does the state advertise any of this information in places where you'd the poor and minorities who are most likely to not know about such information?

It's all well and good to put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. Republicans should be able to appreciate that metaphor.
2014-04-12 11:25:48 AM  
1 votes:

Carousel Beast: brimed03: ReapTheChaos: Yogimus: Carousel Beast: FTFA: 44 observers from Europe's Organization for Security and Cooperation were sent to the United States in 2012 to determine if photo identification requirements, including those in Tennessee, affected voter turnout.

Can any of Fark's lefties give me a valid reason why ensuring only people actually allowed to vote do vote is a bad thing? Seriously, voting is the cornerstone of our entire society; yet every time someone mentions we might want to look into vote fraud, you guys scream like suck pigs. WTF?

Doesn't mater is it's dead people voting in Chicago or Diebold supposedly tampering with machines, our voting should be something we strive to be perfect on.

Even the most exaggerated claims of voter fraud are only a miniscule percentage of folks that have no means of identification.

The percentage of registered voters who have no valid ID are just as minuscule.

*sigh* Because, of course, in certain Republistan states you can't *be* a "registered voter" without valid ID.

You knew that, of course. You just hope to hook someone who didn't catch it.

Again, why is that wrong? So long as the State is providing free, validated identification, why do you object to ensuring the identity of the people forming the government?


That's a pretty big "so long as."

http://www.lawyerscommittee.org/page?id=0046

Your right to vote should not be dependent on transportation, the requirement for which one could argue makes anything "not free," the ability of the government to disseminate information or, worse, the prejudices of pollworkers.
2014-04-12 11:13:36 AM  
1 votes:

Carousel Beast: FTFA: 44 observers from Europe's Organization for Security and Cooperation were sent to the United States in 2012 to determine if photo identification requirements, including those in Tennessee, affected voter turnout.

Can any of Fark's lefties give me a valid reason why ensuring only people actually allowed to vote do vote is a bad thing? Seriously, voting is the cornerstone of our entire society; yet every time someone mentions we might want to look into vote fraud, you guys scream like suck pigs. WTF?

Doesn't mater is it's dead people voting in Chicago or Diebold supposedly tampering with machines, our voting should be something we strive to be perfect on.


You are trading a few false positives for a few hundred false negatives.

Republican officials have made the intent perfectly clear.

These measures are linked to curtailing access to polls in other ways (restrictions on registration, reduces hours, etc).
2014-04-12 10:59:46 AM  
1 votes:

AliceBToklasLives: "Any representative of the United Nations appearing without a treaty ratified by the United States Senate stating that the United Nations can monitor elections in this state, shall not monitor elections in this state."

They do realize that the United Nations is itself the result of a treaty ratified by the United States Senate, right?  According to the Constitution, treaties are the highest law of the land, making the UN Charter the highest law of the land.

/that said, of the US Senate has failed to ratify many basic international treaties


-5/10.

That's not your trolling score; that's your intelligent joke score.
2014-04-12 10:48:52 AM  
1 votes:

Carousel Beast: FTFA: 44 observers from Europe's Organization for Security and Cooperation were sent to the United States in 2012 to determine if photo identification requirements, including those in Tennessee, affected voter turnout.

Can any of Fark's lefties give me a valid reason why ensuring only people actually allowed to vote do vote is a bad thing? Seriously, voting is the cornerstone of our entire society; yet every time someone mentions we might want to look into vote fraud, you guys scream like suck pigs. WTF?

Doesn't mater is it's dead people voting in Chicago or Diebold supposedly tampering with machines, our voting should be something we strive to be perfect on.


Even the most exaggerated claims of voter fraud are only a miniscule percentage of folks that have no means of identification.
2014-04-12 10:46:41 AM  
1 votes:
FTFA: 44 observers from Europe's Organization for Security and Cooperation were sent to the United States in 2012 to determine if photo identification requirements, including those in Tennessee, affected voter turnout.

Can any of Fark's lefties give me a valid reason why ensuring only people actually allowed to vote do vote is a bad thing? Seriously, voting is the cornerstone of our entire society; yet every time someone mentions we might want to look into vote fraud, you guys scream like suck pigs. WTF?

Doesn't mater is it's dead people voting in Chicago or Diebold supposedly tampering with machines, our voting should be something we strive to be perfect on.
2014-04-12 10:43:50 AM  
1 votes:
Yes, because we really want anti-democratic "observers" from the UN learning rough-and-trouble democratic politics from the good ole boys in Tennessee.

Remember when PGP was technically considered munitions and was illegal to provide to anyone not a US citizen? Or the way we embargo certain weapons technologies and only sell the old stuff to those damn foreigners?

Same principle - we don't want these jokers learning our advanced 1st world techniques of manipulating elections.

Study it out. Dig deeper.
2014-04-12 10:42:51 AM  
1 votes:
Wait, did we say "third-world nation"? Sorry, we meant Tennessee... but i repeat myself.
2014-04-12 08:50:04 AM  
1 votes:
So... the objection is to the use of the word "nation" instead of "state"?
 
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