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(Yahoo)   The ten ways MLB pitchers cheat with respect to messing with the ball--and how they overdo it   (sports.yahoo.com ) divider line
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2014-04-12 06:57:23 AM  
One would think anyone on the Astros would use these tactics.  It seems most are caught by TV cameras, not the opposing team or umpires.  Some Astros games are not televised, and if they are, no one's watching them anyway
 
2014-04-12 07:51:32 AM  
put it somewhere surreptitious, like underneath the bill of a cap, inside a belt buckle or, best of all, the little flaps that fold over baseball shoes' laces

That's perfect. No one would ever think it was at all odd if you kept bending over to touch your shoe after every pitch
 
2014-04-12 08:02:05 AM  
CS,B:

In our Hall of Famers exhibit, we have an ancient napkin that Gaylord Perry scribbled on, diagramming how his spitball worked.  According to the folks that ran the local Hot Stove League at the time, he may have been more than three sheets to the wind at the time.
 
2014-04-12 12:06:03 PM  

Creoena: One would think anyone on the Astros would use these tactics.  It seems most are caught by TV cameras, not the opposing team or umpires.  Some Astros games are not televised, and if they are, no one's watching them anyway


...did you watch this week? And the nationally televised game?

Not sure if serious is all
 
2014-04-12 12:07:20 PM  

abhorrent1: put it somewhere surreptitious, like underneath the bill of a cap, inside a belt buckle or, best of all, the little flaps that fold over baseball shoes' laces

That's perfect. No one would ever think it was at all odd if you kept bending over to touch your shoe after every pitch


From what I hear the old-timers would keep a little pine tar / Vaseline / whatever all over their uniforms, so there isn't one place they'd always touch.  And the more experienced ones would sometimes make an unusual movement to touch somewhere on their uniform, then throw a straight fastball, just to mess with the hitter's heads.
 
2014-04-12 12:15:16 PM  
what a stupid "sport"
you can't cheat unless you cheat like this and this is how you cheat so you don't get caught and if you get caught it doesn't matter anyway as long as you're a pitcher but if you're a batter you can't cheat at all cuz that's cheating
 
2014-04-12 12:15:19 PM  

thecpt: Creoena: One would think anyone on the Astros would use these tactics.  It seems most are caught by TV cameras, not the opposing team or umpires.  Some Astros games are not televised, and if they are, no one's watching them anyway

...did you watch this week? And the nationally televised game?

Not sure if serious is all


http://mlb.si.com/2014/04/09/houston-astros-get-0-0-television-ratin g/
 
2014-04-12 12:36:32 PM  

Creoena: thecpt: Creoena: One would think anyone on the Astros would use these tactics.  It seems most are caught by TV cameras, not the opposing team or umpires.  Some Astros games are not televised, and if they are, no one's watching them anyway

...did you watch this week? And the nationally televised game?

Not sure if serious is all

http://mlb.si.com/2014/04/09/houston-astros-get-0-0-television-ratin g/


wow. didn't know about that one.  I was just saying how the day before a nationally televised game, one of their players was caught cheating.  which is odd with your statement... but holy fark houston.  Montreal (other deserving cities) wants another team.
 
2014-04-12 12:37:19 PM  
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I didn't see anything!
 
2014-04-12 01:02:41 PM  
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2014-04-12 02:07:43 PM  
As someone who has Pineda on his fantasy team, I don't care if he doctors the ball; just don't get caught and suspended.
 
2014-04-12 02:23:17 PM  

Creoena: http://mlb.si.com/2014/04/09/houston-astros-get-0-0-television-ratin g/


That's awesome.

Maybe it should inform MLB and Comcast how little people care about sports.  Nah, they'll just keep upping rates because they can.

This part is interesting:

, not one of the 579 TV set-top meters set up by Nielsen in the city to measure local ratings was tuned to the game

Okay, why does Nielsen need "set-top meters" anymore?  Cable has gone digital and I always assumed they could tell what you were watching.  579 seems like a very small sample for a metropolitan area the size of Houston.

Assuming Comcast can tell what channel you are tuned to, you could get much better data by just using that.  The only problem is if people just turn off their TV and not turn off their cable box, but you've already got problems like that.  My TV is on right now.  If I had a Nielsen box, it would think I'm watching some lame-ass movie, but I'm not actively watching it.  There's no way to know how many eyeballs are actually watching and the demographics of those eyeballs.  Comcast could figure out what kind of neighborhood I live in and even aggregate that data together with my internet history though, which might give them some insight into my viewing habits and even what products I might be interested in.

It just seems the Nielsen set-top meter is an antiquated and obsolete method of calculating TV ratings.
 
2014-04-12 03:16:00 PM  
This is professional sports.  If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
 
2014-04-12 03:30:32 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPUDhIPpAnA

Five pitchers - Whitey Ford, Don Drysdale, Gaylord Perry, Don Sutton, and Negro League star Bullet Rogan - all threw spitters and other doctored pitches after the practice was banned and after the league-sanctioned grandfather clause had expired, only to still make the Hall of Fame. Of the four major leaguers on the list, only Sutton avoided overt admission of his crimes. In one oft-told account, Sutton was asked if it was true that he used foreign substances on the ball. "Not true at all," he replied. "Vaseline is manufactured right here in the United States."

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falcon176: what a stupid "sport"
you can't cheat unless you cheat like this and this is how you cheat so you don't get caught and if you get caught it doesn't matter anyway as long as you're a pitcher but if you're a batter you can't cheat at all cuz that's cheating


Your input is appreciated for what it is worth.
 
2014-04-12 09:04:34 PM  
Pitchers cheat. They are a weird breed. They are kinda like the drummer for a band. I do not like pitchers and only tolerated one on my team if he worked fast. They have bull pens to keep the pitchers away from the team. Pitchers should have their own locker room somewhere in the back of the stadium.

/old cranky ball player
//get off my diamond
 
2014-04-13 12:12:47 AM  

upndn: Pitchers cheat. They are a weird breed. They are kinda like the drummer for a band. I do not like pitchers and only tolerated one on my team if he worked fast. They have bull pens to keep the pitchers away from the team. Pitchers should have their own locker room somewhere in the back of the stadium.

/old cranky ball player
//get off my diamond


How can you tell if the playing field is level on a baseball diamond?

Drool comes out of both sides of the pitcher's mouth.
 
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