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(BBC-US)   "A spokesman for Iran's mission to the UN, Hamid Babaei, described the decision as 'regrettable' and said it contravened international law." Kinda like storming an embassy and holding the diplomats hostage, amirite?   (bbc.com) divider line 48
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2014-04-11 07:01:16 PM  
If only we had people with experience in negotiating with the Iranians...
 
2014-04-11 07:39:01 PM  
Too much ill-will betwixt Iran and America.

I wish that this would stop.
 
2014-04-11 08:21:58 PM  
If were going back 34 years we may as well go back further and talk about how the US helped the Shah brutalize his people so we could get some oil.  The Shahs secret police were no better than today's head choppers and torturers.
 
2014-04-11 08:24:56 PM  

rbuzby: If were going back 34 years we may as well go back further and talk about how the US helped the Shah brutalize his people so we could get some oil.  The Shahs secret police were no better than today's head choppers and torturers.


Hey, but they were OUR head choppers and torturers.
 
2014-04-11 08:25:32 PM  
Or launching an  invasion rescue mission?
www.defense.gov
 
2014-04-11 08:29:50 PM  

rbuzby: If were going back 34 years we may as well go back further and talk about how the US helped the Shah brutalize his people so we could get some oil.  The Shahs secret police were no better than today's head choppers and torturers.


Or we could go back a little further and talk about how the Shah came into power after the CIA engineered a coup against the democratically elected PM 'cause he was a little too pinko for our tastes.
 
2014-04-11 08:35:32 PM  
Your elected representatives are only legitimate if we like them.
Ditto for your elections.
 
2014-04-11 08:35:56 PM  
Yup yup yup.  All.

One of the saddest things I ever read was the long article in some magazine about the failed hostage rescue attempt.  The bottom line is, it was going to work.  It would have been awesome.  But there was some poor coordination between the branches of the service involved, and one of the choppers crashed into one of the transports out in the desert staging area.  It really would have worked.  But they never got to Teheran.   Damn.
 
2014-04-11 08:36:43 PM  
This is the high school popularity contest that is American Imperial life taken onto the world stage.
 
2014-04-11 08:44:20 PM  
Deny the visa.  If people are all worried about the precedent being set that the US can then decide who any country sends to the UN then, when he wants to enter the UN building, he is picked up at the airport by US MP's or something similar.  He is taken directly to the UN building and isn't allowed to leave it.  When he is done with whatever business he has in there, he is taken back to the airport and placed on the plane.

The alternative is to tell the UN to move its farking offices to some other hell hole.  And by the way, since we fund most of it anyways, it can start paying for more of its own shiat too.
 
2014-04-11 09:02:27 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: Deny the visa.  If people are all worried about the precedent being set that the US can then decide who any country sends to the UN then, when he wants to enter the UN building, he is picked up at the airport by US MP's or something similar.  He is taken directly to the UN building and isn't allowed to leave it.  When he is done with whatever business he has in there, he is taken back to the airport and placed on the plane.

The alternative is to tell the UN to move its farking offices to some other hell hole.  And by the way, since we fund most of it anyways, it can start paying for more of its own shiat too.


One thing is certain, you are definitely a good example of today's America.
 
2014-04-11 09:03:52 PM  
I read that name as "Hanna-Barbera".

/think it's time to get off of FARK and start drinking for the weekend.
 
2014-04-11 09:05:41 PM  
Benjimin_Dover:

The alternative is to tell the UN to move its farking offices to some other hell hole.  And by the way, since we fund most of it anyways, it can start paying for more of its own shiat too.

The US provides just less than a quarter of the funding, if I remember correctly.  They are the biggest individual contributor, but let's not get ahead of ourselves with 'most'.  

As for the appointment, it was poor form by the Iranians to appoint such a person as ambassador. They presumably knew ahead of time what sort of stink it would raise.
 
2014-04-11 09:06:56 PM  

whither_apophis: If only we had people with experience in negotiating with the Iranians...


i2.wp.com

"Anybody else want to negotiate?"
 
2014-04-11 09:12:19 PM  

rbuzby: The Shahs secret police were no better than today's head choppers and torturers.


Individually quite true.  How does the scale of the brutality compare?
 
2014-04-11 09:21:24 PM  
Iran is in the right on this one.  If you host an international organization on your soil you have to allow diplomats from foreign countries in so that they can attend that event.
 
2014-04-11 09:25:35 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Iran is in the right on this one.  If you host an international organization on your soil you have to allow diplomats from foreign countries in so that they can attend that event.


I completely forgot to mention, I'm hosting a FARK party here in New Orleans and everyone's invited except you.

/sue me
 
2014-04-11 09:27:01 PM  

ko_kyi: rbuzby: The Shahs secret police were no better than today's head choppers and torturers.

Individually quite true.  How does the scale of the brutality compare?


I don't know. Iran is exporting more trouble now than it was under the Shah. But it might be a wash as far as what it was like to live under either regime.  Someone from Iran could probably tell us.
 
2014-04-11 09:35:10 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: The alternative is to tell the UN to move its farking offices to some other hell hole. And by the way, since we fund most of it anyways, it can start paying for more of its own shiat too.


The US gains immensely by hosting the UN. Not only in terms of prestige but also in ease of conducting surveillance on diplomats from every country. But if you're the type to get rid of a mosquito on your arm by shooting it with a bazooka, kicking the UN out of the United States would make sense.
 
2014-04-11 09:35:28 PM  
Hamid Babaei
i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-04-11 09:42:18 PM  
They should have let him come here. Maybe someone would have done us a favor and made sure he didn't leave. Back in the day, high school, when this happened, in print shop we were making "nuke iran" bumper stickers with the teachers approval. They were placed on every bus, taxi, school bus, delivery vehicle that stopped or drove past the high school.
 
2014-04-11 09:55:27 PM  

rbuzby: Yup yup yup.  All.

One of the saddest things I ever read was the long article in some magazine about the failed hostage rescue attempt.  The bottom line is, it was going to work.  It would have been awesome.  But there was some poor coordination between the branches of the service involved, and one of the choppers crashed into one of the transports out in the desert staging area.  It really would have worked.  But they never got to Teheran.   Damn.


A little bit of wind that night. Not simply mis-communication.
 
2014-04-11 09:56:28 PM  

rbuzby: I don't know. Iran is exporting more trouble now than it was under the Shah.


Maybe you should tell someone.
 
2014-04-11 10:08:01 PM  

wataga123: Back in the day, high school, when this happened, in print shop we were making "nuke iran" bumper stickers with the teachers approval. They were placed on every bus, taxi, school bus, delivery vehicle that stopped or drove past the high school.


What's a little genocide between classmates?
 
2014-04-11 10:14:25 PM  
So Fidel Castro, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Robert Mugabe, and Muammar al-Qaddafi all hung out at the UN, but this guy can't? To be fair, I suppose, I'm sure Iran would deny a visa to anyone involved in Operation Ajax too.
 
2014-04-11 10:15:09 PM  
Iran's being a huge dick about this (we asked nicely for them to pick someone else), but I have to agree it IS their right, and this DOES set a poor precedent.
 
2014-04-11 10:17:46 PM  

wataga123: They should have let him come here. Maybe someone would have done us a favor and made sure he didn't leave. Back in the day, high school, when this happened, in print shop we were making "nuke iran" bumper stickers with the teachers approval. They were placed on every bus, taxi, school bus, delivery vehicle that stopped or drove past the high school.


Yes, the best idea in the world is to farking nuke another country. It wouldn't have any ill effects.  Let's all use the retarded high schooler approach to life.
 
2014-04-11 10:28:53 PM  

The Bestest: Iran's being a huge dick about this (we asked nicely for them to pick someone else), but I have to agree it IS their right, and this DOES set a poor precedent.


I agree to let him come in, but I do see merit in having a cordon of military around him at all times.  If Iran gets pissy, just say "we are trying to protect American citizens on American soil from being kidnapped."  It isn't like that is an unfounded concern given his chief accmplishment in life.  The trick would be to not have one of those soldiers actually armed (whatthey can do unarmed is another matter), and to never actually inhibit his movements in any way whatsoever.  Just have the cordon yell "Iranian kidnapper in the area; all US citizens should vacate immediately or face 444 days in a Tehran prison."
 
2014-04-11 10:54:56 PM  
Just let him in.

Then, let him accidently become a victim of a strangulation/robbery/beat-down.

Sorry, NYC is a dangerous place...

"Send another one."
 
2014-04-11 11:11:48 PM  
So we've denied visas to everyone who ever harassed, shot at, tortured or even killed Americans in the past? Or just this guy cuz he was really mean that one time?
 
2014-04-11 11:25:04 PM  

rbuzby: Yup yup yup.  All.

One of the saddest things I ever read was the long article in some magazine about the failed hostage rescue attempt.  The bottom line is, it was going to work.  It would have been awesome.  But there was some poor coordination between the branches of the service involved, and one of the choppers crashed into one of the transports out in the desert staging area.  It really would have worked.  But they never got to Teheran.   Damn.


You never know what would have happened if the plan made it further.  It may have worked, but remember the enemy gets a vote as well and they may not have reacted as planned (for good or ill), and they were a heck of a long way from support when things inevitably go sideways. There was so many ways that could have gone wrong, I guess the only saving grace was the hostages weren't on board for the crash and they got out later.
 
2014-04-11 11:40:31 PM  

cman: Too much ill-will betwixt Iran and America.

I wish that this would stop.


When they are dead, not one second sooner
 
2014-04-12 12:00:36 AM  

ImmaculateContraception: Benjimin_Dover:

The alternative is to tell the UN to move its farking offices to some other hell hole.  And by the way, since we fund most of it anyways, it can start paying for more of its own shiat too.

The US provides just less than a quarter of the funding, if I remember correctly.  They are the biggest individual contributor, but let's not get ahead of ourselves with 'most'.  

As for the appointment, it was poor form by the Iranians to appoint such a person as ambassador. They presumably knew ahead of time what sort of stink it would raise.


OK I will bite, what sort of person is he? Please do tell.
 
2014-04-12 12:08:34 AM  

sparty: Just let him in.

Then, let him accidently become a victim of a strangulation/robbery/beat-down.

Sorry, NYC is a dangerous place...

"Send another one."


So what did this guy do to deserve murder?
 
2014-04-12 12:52:09 AM  
www.smithfamilycolorado.com
 
2014-04-12 01:06:20 AM  
So I guess we just told this guy, who was involved in seizing the US embassy in 1979, basically ...

1-ps.googleusercontent.com

"Argo f*ck yourself!"
 
2014-04-12 01:35:39 AM  

Benjimin_Dover: Deny the visa.  If people are all worried about the precedent being set that the US can then decide who any country sends to the UN then, when he wants to enter the UN building, he is picked up at the airport by US MP's or something similar.  He is taken directly to the UN building and isn't allowed to leave it.  When he is done with whatever business he has in there, he is taken back to the airport and placed on the plane.

The alternative is to tell the UN to move its farking offices to some other hell hole.  And by the way, since we fund most of it anyways, it can start paying for more of its own shiat too.


This is an example of American ignorance. Well, the ignorance of some Americans. The US uses the UN to exert influence across the globe. If we step back from the UN, pay for less, let the UN building leave the country, we diminish what we gain from it.

In this instance I think there are factions that do not like the idea of normalized relations that are throwing up this roadblock to keep Iran as a boegy man.
 
2014-04-12 01:45:10 AM  
I thought we got back at them for the hostage thing by shooting down one of their passenger jets. It's so hard to keep score.
 
2014-04-12 01:59:19 AM  
If we let Gaddafi, we could have let in this jackass.
 
2014-04-12 03:22:41 AM  
Gee, I wonder why they stormed that embassy? I wonder why they hated the US so much. Hmm, because freedoms?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-12 03:26:13 AM  

TheVeryDeadIanMartin: Gee, I wonder why they stormed that embassy? I wonder why they hated the US so much. Hmm, because freedoms?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x384]


He was some uppity type who wouldn't just go back to the cotton fields.
 
2014-04-12 04:02:15 AM  
The US has worked to undermine the UN since its inception. That the UN allowed itself to be based in the US indicated that those that set it up were more interested in visiting New York than they were about coming up with a global body that could solve problems.
 
2014-04-12 04:02:46 AM  

Rozotorical: sparty: Just let him in.

Then, let him accidently become a victim of a strangulation/robbery/beat-down.

Sorry, NYC is a dangerous place...

"Send another one."

So what did this guy do to deserve murder?


RTFA
 
2014-04-12 04:19:12 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: If we let Gaddafi, we could have let in this jackass.


Heads of state are a different matter entirely.

Again, I kinda wish the US would be the "better man" here. Voice your vigorous displeasure, but still allow him. Responding to a dick move with a dick move of your own doesn't solve anything.
 
2014-04-12 05:08:49 AM  

The Bestest: Satanic_Hamster: If we let Gaddafi, we could have let in this jackass.

Heads of state are a different matter entirely.

Again, I kinda wish the US would be the "better man" here. Voice your vigorous displeasure, but still allow him. Responding to a dick move with a dick move of your own doesn't solve anything.


In international politics, that's called "saving face."
 
2014-04-12 05:15:01 AM  

Bloody William: The Bestest: Satanic_Hamster: If we let Gaddafi, we could have let in this jackass.

Heads of state are a different matter entirely.

Again, I kinda wish the US would be the "better man" here. Voice your vigorous displeasure, but still allow him. Responding to a dick move with a dick move of your own doesn't solve anything.

In international politics, that's called "saving face."


So when the dick moves you save your face. Got it.
 
2014-04-12 09:42:34 AM  
Wait, what?

cdn.frontpagemag.com
 
2014-04-12 10:08:52 PM  

STRYPERSWINE: Rozotorical: sparty: Just let him in.

Then, let him accidently become a victim of a strangulation/robbery/beat-down.

Sorry, NYC is a dangerous place...

"Send another one."

So what did this guy do to deserve murder?

RTFA


 I did
 
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