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(io9)   Research study finds 23% of Oklahoma high school biology students misunderstand key concepts of evolution. Excuse me, did I say "students"? I meant "teachers"   (io9.com) divider line 90
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2014-04-11 06:51:29 PM  
My high school biology teacher was our PE coach. He seemed to think humans weren't descended from apes but from some unspecified tree-dwelling insectivore.
 
2014-04-11 07:07:30 PM  
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2014-04-11 07:08:27 PM  

fusillade762: My high school biology teacher was our PE coach. He seemed to think humans weren't descended from apes but from some unspecified tree-dwelling insectivore.


www.blogos.org
 
2014-04-11 07:31:16 PM  

I bet they believe the hell out of whatever biology has to say when they start getting sick.


/don't even remember anything learned in high school except what was necessary to get into college

 
2014-04-11 07:32:25 PM  
We get too many of these "X teachers know little about what they teach" stories
 
2014-04-11 08:17:32 PM  
I don't particularly care what a high school teacher believes.. they're told what to teach and how to teach it and given little lattitude.  Half of them are teaching on the side because they're coaching sports anyways. Just teach what you're supposed to teach.  College is a different story.
 
2014-04-11 08:19:24 PM  
Pick ANY high school topic at random and more than 20% of the teachers teaching it will misunderstand key concepts.
 
2014-04-11 08:19:24 PM  
I'm actually surprised it isn't higher.
 
2014-04-11 08:20:48 PM  

Mugato: I bet they believe the hell out of whatever biology has to say when they start getting sick.
/don't even remember anything learned in high school except what was necessary to get into college


No they don't. People seem most likely to resort to fantastical thinking when it involves an illness, eapecially their own. It's a form of denial.
 
2014-04-11 08:22:03 PM  
This has got to be a recent development.

I went to Midwest City High School in the late 80s, early 90s and we were taught only evolution and none of this bullshiat we keep hearing about these days.

What happened, man?

Midwest City is also 4th overall in crime (according to FBI statistics among 200 cities; NJ 4th in violent crime) when it used to be a nice family place.

Creationism = Increase in Crime

*sigh*
 
2014-04-11 08:27:19 PM  

bhcompy: Half of them are teaching on the side because they're coaching sports anyways.


As someone that went through public schooling in Oklahoma, this is the sad reality. They're too dense to have any input, they just follow the curriculum like fat robots. In hindsight I wonder how much potential was crushed under their non-existent teaching.
About 15 years ago my old school system added a multi-million dollar "entertainment complex" attached to the football stadium for entertaining visitors. Couple years ago they added tennis courts. "#1 in sports, #49,294 in education or anything else of relevance!"
 
2014-04-11 08:33:40 PM  
Why does it matter if an art teacher isn't current on evolutionary theory?  Or an english/physics/chemistry/PE/econ/history/drama/etc.  The only teacher who needs to be really clear on the concepts of evolution is the one who teaches it.

Ask a group of teachers to diagram a sentence and see how many can do it.  Unless they're a language teacher, it doesn't matter.
 
2014-04-11 08:37:08 PM  

WhoGAS: This has got to be a recent development.

I went to Midwest City High School in the late 80s, early 90s and we were taught only evolution and none of this bullshiat we keep hearing about these days.

What happened, man?

Midwest City is also 4th overall in crime (according to FBI statistics among 200 cities; NJ 4th in violent crime) when it used to be a nice family place.

Creationism = Increase in Crime

*sigh*


yep, lack of proper education, willful ignorance,  bunch of shiat and jizz flinging monkies
 
2014-04-11 08:37:12 PM  

cman: We get too many of these "X teachers know little about what they teach" stories


Turns out teachers are just as dumb as the rest of the population. Not surprised.
 
2014-04-11 08:38:01 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: bhcompy: Half of them are teaching on the side because they're coaching sports anyways.

As someone that went through public schooling in Oklahoma, this is the sad reality. They're too dense to have any input, they just follow the curriculum like fat robots. In hindsight I wonder how much potential was crushed under their non-existent teaching.
About 15 years ago my old school system added a multi-million dollar "entertainment complex" attached to the football stadium for entertaining visitors. Couple years ago they added tennis courts. "#1 in sports, #49,294 in education or anything else of relevance!"


Well, that's the other part of what I said.  They're not given any latitude anyways.  They're controlled by the district, the state, and federal government on what to teach and how to teach it for the most part.  The state/district says, "Here's your Everyday Math curriculum that teaches to the test and does an awful job of preparing you for any advanced math while being summarily derided by math departments in every college everywhere," and the teacher takes it because they have no choice other that looking for a new job.
 
2014-04-11 08:39:36 PM  
/NotSoCSB
A friend of mine from high school recently graduated from Oklahoma State with a degree in zoology which requires, among other things, a class specifically on evolution. She aced the course and got her degree and still does not believe in evolution. Weird fundy parents had more to do with it then the school system though.
 
2014-04-11 08:39:41 PM  
77% isn't all that bad. Certainly room for improvement though.
 
2014-04-11 08:41:49 PM  
23% of all high school teachers misunderstand key concepts of the subjects they teach.
 
2014-04-11 08:42:07 PM  

jtown: Why does it matter if an art teacher isn't current on evolutionary theory?  Or an english/physics/chemistry/PE/econ/history/drama/etc.   The only teacher who needs to be really clear on the concepts of evolution is the one who teaches it.

Ask a group of teachers to diagram a sentence and see how many can do it.  Unless they're a language teacher, it doesn't matter.


Title of TFA: "Oklahoma Biology Teachers Don't Understand Evolution "

Guessing you don't teach English, based on your own words, since you clearly fail to read in said language.
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2014-04-11 08:43:19 PM  

BBtB: /NotSoCSB
A friend of mine from high school recently graduated from Oklahoma State with a degree in zoology which requires, among other things, a class specifically on evolution. She aced the course and got her degree and still does not believe in evolution. Weird fundy parents had more to do with it then the school system though.


So, in reality.. she was working on her MRS certificate?
 
2014-04-11 08:45:29 PM  
Evolution is a pretty complicated process.  I mean sure, while the main concepts are pretty easy to unders...

wait are we talking about Jesus riding a dinosaur crap again?
 
2014-04-11 08:50:30 PM  

fusillade762: My high school biology teacher was our PE coach. He seemed to think humans weren't descended from apes but from some unspecified tree-dwelling insectivore.


He was correct. Humans didn't descend from apes. Apes and human share a common ancestor (an unspecified tree-dwelling insectivore).
 
2014-04-11 08:59:53 PM  

jtown: Why does it matter if an art teacher isn't current on evolutionary theory?  Or an english/physics/chemistry/PE/econ/history/drama/etc.  The only teacher who needs to be really clear on the concepts of evolution is the one who teaches it.

Ask a group of teachers to diagram a sentence and see how many can do it.  Unless they're a language teacher, it doesn't matter.


The study was surveying biology teachers only:
i483.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-11 09:03:41 PM  

42_42_42: fusillade762: My high school biology teacher was our PE coach. He seemed to think humans weren't descended from apes but from some unspecified tree-dwelling insectivore.

He was correct. Humans didn't descend from apes. Apes and human share a common ancestor (an unspecified tree-dwelling insectivore).


i.dailymail.co.uk

Descended from Yoda we are.
 
2014-04-11 09:05:54 PM  
Oh, imagine the confused look when having a discussion with a Creationist and pointing out that evolution is a process of change in life, seperate from abiogenesis.

And if you hammer them on Koalas...
 
2014-04-11 09:08:05 PM  

jtown: Ask a group of teachers to diagram a sentence and see how many can do it.  Unless they're a language teacher, it doesn't matter.


I bet I could still diagram a sentence---something I haven't done since 8th grade---and I'm a physicist.
 
2014-04-11 09:09:42 PM  

Russ1642: Mugato: I bet they believe the hell out of whatever biology has to say when they start getting sick.
/don't even remember anything learned in high school except what was necessary to get into college

No they don't. People seem most likely to resort to fantastical thinking when it involves an illness, eapecially their own. It's a form of denial.


THIS. ( Don't know how many of the Anti-Vax crowd are also Creationists, but i wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of overlap between the two...)
 
2014-04-11 09:10:23 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: 42_42_42: fusillade762: My high school biology teacher was our PE coach. He seemed to think humans weren't descended from apes but from some unspecified tree-dwelling insectivore.

He was correct. Humans didn't descend from apes. Apes and human share a common ancestor (an unspecified tree-dwelling insectivore).

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Descended from Yoda we are.



Luminous beings are we
 
2014-04-11 09:11:50 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Russ1642: Mugato: I bet they believe the hell out of whatever biology has to say when they start getting sick.
/don't even remember anything learned in high school except what was necessary to get into college

No they don't. People seem most likely to resort to fantastical thinking when it involves an illness, eapecially their own. It's a form of denial.

THIS. ( Don't know how many of the Anti-Vax crowd are also Creationists, but i wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of overlap between the two...)



I dunno, even among the fundies, only the lunatic fringe won't run to a doctor when they find out they have cancer or dying of old age.
 
2014-04-11 09:13:39 PM  
Oh jeez, well you'd better get some teachers in there that know that Obama is the one and only true god STAT!
 
2014-04-11 09:15:06 PM  
To paraphrase Upton Sinclair, it's hard to get a person to understand something when their religion requires them not to understand it.
 
2014-04-11 09:20:36 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: bhcompy: Half of them are teaching on the side because they're coaching sports anyways.

As someone that went through public schooling in Oklahoma, this is the sad reality. They're too dense to have any input, they just follow the curriculum like fat robots. In hindsight I wonder how much potential was crushed under their non-existent teaching.
About 15 years ago my old school system added a multi-million dollar "entertainment complex" attached to the football stadium for entertaining visitors. Couple years ago they added tennis courts. "#1 in sports, #49,294 in education or anything else of relevance!"


Stillwater?
 
2014-04-11 09:23:03 PM  
GOD SAID IT

I BELIEVE IT

THAT SETTLES IT
 
2014-04-11 09:24:10 PM  
That's actually way better than I would have guessed.
 
2014-04-11 09:29:16 PM  

ParallelUniverseParking: jtown: Why does it matter if an art teacher isn't current on evolutionary theory?  Or an english/physics/chemistry/PE/econ/history/drama/etc.  The only teacher who needs to be really clear on the concepts of evolution is the one who teaches it.

Ask a group of teachers to diagram a sentence and see how many can do it.  Unless they're a language teacher, it doesn't matter.

The study was surveying biology teachers only:
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You guys expect me to both read and  comprehend?  Good luck with that.  I'm a product of the public school system.
 
2014-04-11 09:34:35 PM  
What's not to understand?  In the beginning, we were all fish. Okay? Swimming around in the water. And then one day a couple of fish had a retard baby, and the retard baby was different, so it got to live. So Retard Fish goes on to make more retard babies, and then one day, a retard baby fish crawled out of the ocean with its mutant fish hands and it had butt sex with a squirrel or something and made this retard frog-sqirrel, and then *that* had a retard baby which was a monkey-fish-frog.  And then this monkey-fish-frog had butt sex with that monkey, and that monkey had a mutant retard baby that screwed another monkey, and that made you!So there you go! You're the retarded offspring of five monkeys having butt sex with a fish-squirrel! Congratulations!  Seems simple enough to be taught to third grade.
 
2014-04-11 09:36:50 PM  
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2014-04-11 09:37:50 PM  
British Colombia just got dumbed down a few notches by the B.C law society.  The just approved a christian law school.  Seems a bit hypocritical as the students are required to check their souls at the door.
 
2014-04-11 09:38:20 PM  
redheededstepchild:

Stillwater?

I am a golden god!

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2014-04-11 09:44:24 PM  

Clark W Griswald: British Colombia just got dumbed down a few notches by the B.C law society.  The just approved a christian law school.  Seems a bit hypocritical as the students are required to check their souls at the door.


People learning how to professionally separate others from their money. I think a religious background would be good training.

//Wait until they start practicing law and learn they have to pay taxes.
 
2014-04-11 09:45:13 PM  

42_42_42: fusillade762: My high school biology teacher was our PE coach. He seemed to think humans weren't descended from apes but from some unspecified tree-dwelling insectivore.

He was correct. Humans didn't descend from apes. Apes and human share a common ancestor (an unspecified tree-dwelling insectivore).


All living humans are descended from ape ancestors: humans, by definition, are apes thus every living human is a direct descendant of ape parents.
 
2014-04-11 09:47:58 PM  

wildcardjack: Oh, imagine the confused look when having a discussion with a Creationist and pointing out that evolution is a process of change in life, seperate from abiogenesis.

And if you hammer them on Koalas...


Creationists have a common and simple response to being informed that evolution and abiogenesis are separate concepts: denial. Creationists believe themselves infallible and thus they refuse to accept that their understanding of evolution may he in error.
 
2014-04-11 09:53:55 PM  
But do they know who invented peanut butter?
 
2014-04-11 10:14:38 PM  

svanmeter: But do they know who invented peanut butter?


In school they taught us that it was George Washington Carver who invented peanut butter. But now we know it evolved from earlier bipedal creatures:

nutritionfor.us
 
2014-04-11 10:19:46 PM  
Only 23%?  That's pretty good.
 
2014-04-11 10:23:49 PM  

svanmeter: But do they know who invented peanut butter?


Jesus.
 
2014-04-11 10:29:00 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: svanmeter: But do they know who invented peanut butter?

In school they taught us that it was George Washington Carver who invented peanut butter. But now we know it evolved from earlier bipedal creatures:


Whew... Glad to see they're not neglecting what's important then, like the invention of crushed nuts.
Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without. Buddha
 
2014-04-11 10:33:33 PM  
Because they get the summer off, work less than 8 hours a day, have to only show up 180 days a year and are not held to any standard:  the teaching profession attracts mostly lazy stupid people.
 
2014-04-11 10:38:51 PM  
23% of any teachers misunderstand key concepts of whatever they are teaching.

Had the football coach for calculus. All he could do was max/min problems involving sports.
 
2014-04-11 10:42:01 PM  

bigsteve3OOO: Because they get the summer off, work less than 8 hours a day, have to only show up 180 days a year and are not held to any standard:  the teaching profession attracts mostly lazy stupid people.


It attracts a higher quality of people than internet trolling does.
 
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