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2014-04-11 12:26:13 PM
10 START CSB-TIME
20 REM I once received a retail job via phone interview. When I showed up for work they were disappointed that I was not female.  An hour later I was told I was no longer employed.  I suppose they assumed because my voice was a bit high pitched then and my name could work as a female's name as well as a male that I was a girl.
30 REM Simply stated, I got fired for having a dick.
40 END CSB-TIME
 
2014-04-11 12:29:56 PM
It also helps if you're hot.
Also no fatties.
 
2014-04-11 12:46:52 PM

K3rmy: 10 START CSB-TIME
20 REM I once received a retail job via phone interview. When I showed up for work they were disappointed that I was not female.  An hour later I was told I was no longer employed.  I suppose they assumed because my voice was a bit high pitched then and my name could work as a female's name as well as a male that I was a girl.
30 REM Simply stated, I got fired for having a dick.
40 END CSB-TIME


sounds pretty basic
 
2014-04-11 01:02:47 PM
If you want to be a raging dickhole on the job you better be absolute world-class at what you do -- take it from a man whose booths make the Hopkins Neurosurgery Suites look like the only portashiatter at the Guadalajara Chili Cook-Off.
 
2014-04-11 01:04:43 PM
"To those who tend to be more concrete in their thinking, the idea of not landing a job when you meet all the criteria seems foreign, yet the truth is that hiring is based mostly on the 'fit' rather than skills unless it is a highly technical field and even then a likeability factor is considered."

Someone who is brilliant, engaging, and confident will likely get hired in spite of any skill deficit in all but the most extreme situations.  They'll move job responsibilities around to make it happen.

Remember, if you get to the point of an interview, you've passed the basics.  At that point, no one should be caring about your actual technical ability: if you're competent at all and even in the general ballpark, you can probably pick up the skills needed.  It's all about who you are as a person and how you fit into the culture of the organization.  If you're unlucky and get a bad interviewer, they'll just ask you things your resume already says or those asinine stock interview questions ("Talk about a time you screwed up and how you recovered", pseudo-Google "alternative thinking" questions, etc.).

I've actually criticized people mid-interview for being horrible at it.
 
2014-04-11 01:05:38 PM
Yes.  By the time you're actually there for an interview, it's to mostly find out if you'll fit with the team.  You wouldn't have gotten an interview if you were not qualified.

Oh we'll still ask you technical questions about recursion and estimate the volume or weight of some random world monument or how many golf balls will fit inside your mom a bus, but it's mostly to find out if you're a dick.
 
2014-04-11 01:07:26 PM
That would explain my long term unemployment ...
 
2014-04-11 01:08:28 PM

obenchainr: "To those who tend to be more concrete in their thinking, the idea of not landing a job when you meet all the criteria seems foreign, yet the truth is that hiring is based mostly on the 'fit' rather than skills unless it is a highly technical field and even then a likeability factor is considered."

Someone who is brilliant, engaging, and confident will likely get hired in spite of any skill deficit in all but the most extreme situations.  They'll move job responsibilities around to make it happen.

Remember, if you get to the point of an interview, you've passed the basics.  At that point, no one should be caring about your actual technical ability: if you're competent at all and even in the general ballpark, you can probably pick up the skills needed.  It's all about who you are as a person and how you fit into the culture of the organization.  If you're unlucky and get a bad interviewer, they'll just ask you things your resume already says or those asinine stock interview questions ("Talk about a time you screwed up and how you recovered", pseudo-Google "alternative thinking" questions, etc.).

I've actually criticized people mid-interview for being horrible at it.


I think that's why I haven't been on the interview team for a while.  I complained about how bad the questions we had to ask were.
 
2014-04-11 01:17:30 PM

obenchainr: "To those who tend to be more concrete in their thinking, the idea of not landing a job when you meet all the criteria seems foreign, yet the truth is that hiring is based mostly on the 'fit' rather than skills unless it is a highly technical field and even then a likeability factor is considered."

Someone who is brilliant, engaging, and confident will likely get hired in spite of any skill deficit in all but the most extreme situations.  They'll move job responsibilities around to make it happen.

Remember, if you get to the point of an interview, you've passed the basics.  At that point, no one should be caring about your actual technical ability: if you're competent at all and even in the general ballpark, you can probably pick up the skills needed.  It's all about who you are as a person and how you fit into the culture of the organization.  If you're unlucky and get a bad interviewer, they'll just ask you things your resume already says or those asinine stock interview questions ("Talk about a time you screwed up and how you recovered", pseudo-Google "alternative thinking" questions, etc.).

I've actually criticized people mid-interview for being horrible at it.


God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.
 
2014-04-11 01:17:38 PM

obenchainr: "To those who tend to be more concrete in their thinking, the idea of not landing a job when you meet all the criteria seems foreign, yet the truth is that hiring is based mostly on the 'fit' rather than skills unless it is a highly technical field and even then a likeability factor is considered."

Someone who is brilliant, engaging, and confident will likely get hired in spite of any skill deficit in all but the most extreme situations.  They'll move job responsibilities around to make it happen.

Remember, if you get to the point of an interview, you've passed the basics.  At that point, no one should be caring about your actual technical ability: if you're competent at all and even in the general ballpark, you can probably pick up the skills needed.It's all about who you are as a person and how you fit into the culture of the organization.  If you're unlucky and get a bad interviewer, they'll just ask you things your resume already says or those asinine stock interview questions ("Talk about a time you screwed up and how you recovered", pseudo-Google "alternative thinking" questions, etc.).

I've actually criticized people mid-interview for being horrible at it.


That's actually one of the problems we get.  We get an acronym resume salad of every protocol imaginable and when we get the guy in here we find he's lacking knowledge beyond a wikipedia article.  Keep in mind, I know we're being quite picky, but this is for a ~$110k position and we really need some specific skills on our team.  All of us are very good at a few technical standards/applications.

We had a guy in two weeks ago who looked like a WiFi whiz on paper, but it seemed to be mostly BS.  We have discussed since then that we need to modify how we prescreen these guys.  HR isn't technically capable.
 
2014-04-11 01:18:52 PM
God Is My Co-Pirate:

God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.
A:  My drinking.

Q:  Where do you see yourself in 5 years?
A:  Kicking back at home on some worker's comp.
 
2014-04-11 01:19:58 PM
Sadly this doesn't happen often enough
 
2014-04-11 01:21:42 PM

Rapmaster2000: obenchainr: "To those who tend to be more concrete in their thinking, the idea of not landing a job when you meet all the criteria seems foreign, yet the truth is that hiring is based mostly on the 'fit' rather than skills unless it is a highly technical field and even then a likeability factor is considered."

Someone who is brilliant, engaging, and confident will likely get hired in spite of any skill deficit in all but the most extreme situations.  They'll move job responsibilities around to make it happen.

Remember, if you get to the point of an interview, you've passed the basics.  At that point, no one should be caring about your actual technical ability: if you're competent at all and even in the general ballpark, you can probably pick up the skills needed.It's all about who you are as a person and how you fit into the culture of the organization.  If you're unlucky and get a bad interviewer, they'll just ask you things your resume already says or those asinine stock interview questions ("Talk about a time you screwed up and how you recovered", pseudo-Google "alternative thinking" questions, etc.).

I've actually criticized people mid-interview for being horrible at it.

That's actually one of the problems we get.  We get an acronym resume salad of every protocol imaginable and when we get the guy in here we find he's lacking knowledge beyond a wikipedia article.  Keep in mind, I know we're being quite picky, but this is for a ~$110k position and we really need some specific skills on our team.  All of us are very good at a few technical standards/applications.

We had a guy in two weeks ago who looked like a WiFi whiz on paper, but it seemed to be mostly BS.  We have discussed since then that we need to modify how we prescreen these guys.  HR isn't technically capable.


Easy suggestion - what about putting two questions in the pre-screening process. One being a niche technical question only someone familiar with the technology could actually answer, and one that sounds like a niche technical question but is total BS. Easy way to rule out the "fake it till you make it' crowd
 
2014-04-11 01:22:05 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: obenchainr: "To those who tend to be more concrete in their thinking, the idea of not landing a job when you meet all the criteria seems foreign, yet the truth is that hiring is based mostly on the 'fit' rather than skills unless it is a highly technical field and even then a likeability factor is considered."

Someone who is brilliant, engaging, and confident will likely get hired in spite of any skill deficit in all but the most extreme situations.  They'll move job responsibilities around to make it happen.

Remember, if you get to the point of an interview, you've passed the basics.  At that point, no one should be caring about your actual technical ability: if you're competent at all and even in the general ballpark, you can probably pick up the skills needed.  It's all about who you are as a person and how you fit into the culture of the organization.  If you're unlucky and get a bad interviewer, they'll just ask you things your resume already says or those asinine stock interview questions ("Talk about a time you screwed up and how you recovered", pseudo-Google "alternative thinking" questions, etc.).

I've actually criticized people mid-interview for being horrible at it.

God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.


I think we discovered your biggest weakness...
 
2014-04-11 01:22:41 PM
at my company I'm noticing that unless you're from India, you won't "fit in".
 
2014-04-11 01:23:55 PM
God Is My Co-Pirate:

God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.

A: I'm emotionally incapable of intimacy and have crippling commitment issues mostly likely ensuring I'll always be alone. On the other hand, that means I can work overtime on nights and weekends with no problem.
 
2014-04-11 01:24:06 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If you want to be a raging dickhole on the job you better be absolute world-class at what you do


I am an attorney.  Most attorneys think that they can start being a dick right out of school or right after they pass the bar.  They don't realize that those that are complete dicks have earned that right.  They have prosecuted Mike Tyson, sent Timothy McVeigh to the death chamber, and successfully sued sovereign entities.  They have argued in front of the Supreme Court and won.  So, until you have done something of that caliber, be nice to your assistant and bring the IT guys donuts on Tuesdays.
That JD that you just got doesn't mean Justifiable Dickiness.
 
2014-04-11 01:25:02 PM
I got fired from my last job because I "wasn't a good fit."

/I was a dick
 
2014-04-11 01:25:07 PM
The last interview I went to, they asked 3 questions total. Two of them were the same basic question, "tell us about a problem you had on the job and how you fixed it." Meh, theyre basically asking for creative storytellers. I did get the job, though.
 
2014-04-11 01:25:09 PM
You can usually teach someone how to do a job.  You usually can't teach someone how not to be an asshole.
 
2014-04-11 01:25:45 PM

K3rmy: 10 START CSB-TIME
20 REM I once received a retail job via phone interview. When I showed up for work they were disappointed that I was not female.  An hour later I was told I was no longer employed.  I suppose they assumed because my voice was a bit high pitched then and my name could work as a female's name as well as a male that I was a girl.
30 REM Simply stated, I got fired for having a dick.
40 END CSB-TIME


Don't worry, you can do better then that airport titty bar any ways.
 
2014-04-11 01:26:11 PM

Beeblebrox: God Is My Co-Pirate: obenchainr: "To those who tend to be more concrete in their thinking, the idea of not landing a job when you meet all the criteria seems foreign, yet the truth is that hiring is based mostly on the 'fit' rather than skills unless it is a highly technical field and even then a likeability factor is considered."

Someone who is brilliant, engaging, and confident will likely get hired in spite of any skill deficit in all but the most extreme situations.  They'll move job responsibilities around to make it happen.

Remember, if you get to the point of an interview, you've passed the basics.  At that point, no one should be caring about your actual technical ability: if you're competent at all and even in the general ballpark, you can probably pick up the skills needed.  It's all about who you are as a person and how you fit into the culture of the organization.  If you're unlucky and get a bad interviewer, they'll just ask you things your resume already says or those asinine stock interview questions ("Talk about a time you screwed up and how you recovered", pseudo-Google "alternative thinking" questions, etc.).

I've actually criticized people mid-interview for being horrible at it.

God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.

I think we discovered your biggest weakness...


Adorable kitten pics?
 
2014-04-11 01:26:29 PM

Rapmaster2000: That's actually one of the problems we get. We get an acronym resume salad of every protocol imaginable and when we get the guy in here we find he's lacking knowledge beyond a wikipedia article.


That's actually why I think it's especially stupid for most companies nowadays to filter applicants through the "online" process where they're basically just keyword searching for the applicable acronym salads you mentioned. I get the general benefits/ease of doing so, but it's pretty easy to BS your way into the door as an applicant.

I mostly just go through recruiters, though, because why the hell wouldn't I just use the guy who can get my resume right to the hiring manager instead of a 12 page online process of mostly repetitive data entry?
 
2014-04-11 01:26:44 PM

Rapmaster2000: God Is My Co-Pirate:

God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.
A:  My drinking.

Q:  Where do you see yourself in 5 years?
A:  Kicking back at home on some worker's comp.


I like the "On a scale of 1-10, 1 being lowest 10 highest, rate your C++/C#/Java/etc. ability"  Almost invariably they answered a 7 or 8.  I've gotten a 5 once.

I then followed up with (depending on the number, say they said 7), "What kind of problem do you think a 5 or 6 would have trouble with".  Their answer tells me what they recently or maybe currently are having trouble with.

As I mentioned I'm not doing interviews anymore, even though the last person I interviewed we've hired and he's both a great fit and technically proficient.
 
2014-04-11 01:27:41 PM

Rapmaster2000: God Is My Co-Pirate:

God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.
A:  My drinking.

Q:  Where do you see yourself in 5 years?
A:  Kicking back at home on some worker's comp.


see, i'm actually pretty functional at this point. my problem is i get bored and don't followup on stuff
 
2014-04-11 01:27:56 PM

Dreyelle: at my company I'm noticing that unless you're from India, you won't "fit in".


So if you dont accept 20% under market wages? Amazing how Zuckerberg claims the country that invented everything we use on the net has no technical skill, yet a country whose first question on tech support is a scripted is your computer on has amazing talent.
 
2014-04-11 01:28:34 PM

GalFriday: Mr. Coffee Nerves: If you want to be a raging dickhole on the job you better be absolute world-class at what you do

I am an attorney.  Most attorneys think that they can start being a dick right out of school or right after they pass the bar.  They don't realize that those that are complete dicks have earned that right.  They have prosecuted Mike Tyson, sent Timothy McVeigh to the death chamber, and successfully sued sovereign entities.  They have argued in front of the Supreme Court and won.  So, until you have done something of that caliber, be nice to your assistant and bring the IT guys donuts on Tuesdays.
That JD that you just got doesn't mean Justifiable Dickiness.


I worked I/T for a law firm many years ago.  Some were cool, while others were not.

I am now looking at becoming a lawyer.


/I love irony and things that go full circle
 
2014-04-11 01:28:37 PM
I just started a new job last month and at the start of the interview the guy told me I essentially already had the job he just wanted to make sure I wasn't an asshole. I imagine most people would have been relived but I am an asshole so I had to really be on my game to get that job.
 
2014-04-11 01:29:12 PM

meat0918: I like the "On a scale of 1-10, 1 being lowest 10 highest, rate your C++/C#/Java/etc. ability" Almost invariably they answered a 7 or 8. I've gotten a 5 once.


What would be a  "I rarely have to Google syntax on that language"?
 
2014-04-11 01:29:35 PM
The old adage is proved once again.

Never stick your dick in top-shelf pussy.
 
2014-04-11 01:30:13 PM

Dreyelle: at my company I'm noticing that unless you're from India, you won't "fit in".


So much ^^this^^

Your résumé is impeccable, your references checked out, and you graduated at the top of your class. We've decided to go with another candidate, though, because you're a dick we are only hiring H1-Bs.
 
2014-04-11 01:30:21 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.


Biggest weakness? Being a bit of a perfectionist instead of accepting "good enough."
 
2014-04-11 01:30:26 PM

Rapmaster2000: God Is My Co-Pirate:

God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.
A:  My drinking.

Q:  Where do you see yourself in 5 years?
A:  Kicking back at home on some worker's comp.


That question is a trap.

How are you supposed to answer?

1) still doing the job I'm applying for? Hell no, it shows you totally lack any drive.

2) mid-level with the company? Wrong again, now you're a threat to the person hiring you.

Enough with the bullshiat situational and behavioral questions already!

Virtually everyone uses the same ones and it stretches, what could be a quick in and out interview, into a stress ridden waste of time for all parties involved.
 
2014-04-11 01:30:34 PM

Killer Cars: Rapmaster2000: That's actually one of the problems we get. We get an acronym resume salad of every protocol imaginable and when we get the guy in here we find he's lacking knowledge beyond a wikipedia article.

That's actually why I think it's especially stupid for most companies nowadays to filter applicants through the "online" process where they're basically just keyword searching for the applicable acronym salads you mentioned. I get the general benefits/ease of doing so, but it's pretty easy to BS your way into the door as an applicant.

I mostly just go through recruiters, though, because why the hell wouldn't I just use the guy who can get my resume right to the hiring manager instead of a 12 page online process of mostly repetitive data entry?


There was an old (late 1990s) trick of writing a keyword repeatedly with white text within a word document.  The human reader would not see it, but the keyword DB search engine would put it at the top of its results.

It might have just been an urban legend, but it sounds do-able.
 
2014-04-11 01:30:58 PM
As someone who left a place where I wasn't a good fit, and is now working at a place where I am a good fit, I can say that having a personality that works with the other personalities on the team is way more important than the skills you bring. Skills can be learned. Getting along with your team isn't going to happen over time.

Working in a place where your personality doesn't match means faking it every day, which is exhausting. After a year you are going to resent everything about that company, and knowingly, or not, undermine it.
 
2014-04-11 01:31:00 PM

meat0918: I think that's why I haven't been on the interview team for a while. I complained about how bad the questions we had to ask were.


One of my biggest frustrations with the hiring process at my work is that the interview questions are all scripted ahead of time and there's no leeway for deviation.  So there's no chance to have a back and forth or a real conversation, it's just Question - Answer, Question - Answer, Question - Answer.

God Is My Co-Pirate: God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.


I still like this question because it can show me how good a potential hire is at recognizing personnel problems and what their personal problem solving looks like.
 
2014-04-11 01:31:20 PM

obenchainr: "To those who tend to be more concrete in their thinking, the idea of not landing a job when you meet all the criteria seems foreign, yet the truth is that hiring is based mostly on the 'fit' rather than skills unless it is a highly technical field and even then a likeability factor is considered."

Someone who is brilliant, engaging, and confident will likely get hired in spite of any skill deficit in all but the most extreme situations.  They'll move job responsibilities around to make it happen.

Remember, if you get to the point of an interview, you've passed the basics.  At that point, no one should be caring about your actual technical ability: if you're competent at all and even in the general ballpark, you can probably pick up the skills needed.  It's all about who you are as a person and how you fit into the culture of the organization.  If you're unlucky and get a bad interviewer, they'll just ask you things your resume already says or those asinine stock interview questions ("Talk about a time you screwed up and how you recovered", pseudo-Google "alternative thinking" questions, etc.).

I've actually criticized people mid-interview for being horrible at it.


Depends on what the work is. I was on a hiring team for a safety compliance manager position, and we had to weed out people who had the credentials, but didn't know their shiat forwards and backwards as well as we wanted them to. We ended up hiring an arrogant prick and I was 100% in favor of it because he knew absolutely everything about safety.

He drove people insane, but in the time I was there we were never cited by OSHA for anything. Everyone was trained on exactly what they needed to be trained on, the building and grounds were in order, and he was on top of changes in the regulations (for example, safety managers right now are dealing with a biatch of a change in Hazard Communication) so well that management was able to integrate changes in a very timely and reasonable way.
 
2014-04-11 01:31:51 PM
Job interviews are a process that measures a prospective employee's skill at job interviews. For most positions, using them to bias your candidate selection probably does more harm than good.
 
2014-04-11 01:32:34 PM
its all Bullsh*t.  unless you have impeccable credentials and/or have qualifications that greatly exceed the job, you can bet that looks, color, social connections, going to the right school/church, being known by the right people, etc,  will be the deciding factors.

Humans aren't the most rational, logical beings in the Universe. like 10 year olds, most believe that what they see is what they'll get.  all that glitters is definitely not gold.


that is why crony capitalists love high unemployement.  it gives them lots of choices when looking for employees.  they don't value anyone else's choices, only their own.

ain't Freedom great!
 
2014-04-11 01:32:37 PM
Sounds kinda like med school admissions.  Stellar GPA/MCAT/extracurriculars, rejected because they weren't a "good fit."
 
2014-04-11 01:32:58 PM
Say goodnight, Dick.
 
2014-04-11 01:33:16 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.


You mean you sometimes spend too much time helping your colleagues and have to stay late on your own time?
 
2014-04-11 01:33:27 PM

K3rmy: 10 START CSB-TIME
20 REM I once received a retail job via phone interview. When I showed up for work they were disappointed that I was not female.  An hour later I was told I was no longer employed.  I suppose they assumed because my voice was a bit high pitched then and my name could work as a female's name as well as a male that I was a girl.
30 REM Simply stated, I got fired for having a dick.
40 END CSB-TIME


I'm guessing it's not that you have a dick, it's that you can't stop acting like having a dick is what defines you.
 
2014-04-11 01:33:28 PM

Sticky Hands: meat0918: I like the "On a scale of 1-10, 1 being lowest 10 highest, rate your C++/C#/Java/etc. ability" Almost invariably they answered a 7 or 8. I've gotten a 5 once.

What would be a  "I rarely have to Google syntax on that language"?


I think it he said a 4 would have problems with dereferencing pointers actually...
 
2014-04-11 01:33:38 PM
Never underestimate the wrecking-ball power of an absolute dick in your department.  Especially if they go unchecked.
 
2014-04-11 01:34:29 PM

Orgasmatron138: obenchainr: "To those who tend to be more concrete in their thinking, the idea of not landing a job when you meet all the criteria seems foreign, yet the truth is that hiring is based mostly on the 'fit' rather than skills unless it is a highly technical field and even then a likeability factor is considered."

Someone who is brilliant, engaging, and confident will likely get hired in spite of any skill deficit in all but the most extreme situations.  They'll move job responsibilities around to make it happen.

Remember, if you get to the point of an interview, you've passed the basics.  At that point, no one should be caring about your actual technical ability: if you're competent at all and even in the general ballpark, you can probably pick up the skills needed.  It's all about who you are as a person and how you fit into the culture of the organization.  If you're unlucky and get a bad interviewer, they'll just ask you things your resume already says or those asinine stock interview questions ("Talk about a time you screwed up and how you recovered", pseudo-Google "alternative thinking" questions, etc.).

I've actually criticized people mid-interview for being horrible at it.

Depends on what the work is. I was on a hiring team for a safety compliance manager position, and we had to weed out people who had the credentials, but didn't know their shiat forwards and backwards as well as we wanted them to. We ended up hiring an arrogant prick and I was 100% in favor of it because he knew absolutely everything about safety.

He drove people insane, but in the time I was there we were never cited by OSHA for anything. Everyone was trained on exactly what they needed to be trained on, the building and grounds were in order, and he was on top of changes in the regulations (for example, safety managers right now are dealing with a biatch of a change in Hazard Communication) so well that management was able to integrate changes in a very timely and reasonable way.



well done.   proof that Sociopaths have a place in the working world.
 
2014-04-11 01:34:41 PM

K3rmy: 10 START CSB-TIME
20 REM I once received a retail job via phone interview. When I showed up for work they were disappointed that I was not female.  An hour later I was told I was no longer employed.  I suppose they assumed because my voice was a bit high pitched then and my name could work as a female's name as well as a male that I was a girl.
30 REM Simply stated, I got fired for having a dick.
40 END CSB-TIME


EBCDICHead
 
2014-04-11 01:34:43 PM

meat0918: Rapmaster2000: God Is My Co-Pirate:

God, if I get asked "what's your biggest weakness?" one more time, I swear I'll snap and tell them the truth.
A:  My drinking.

Q:  Where do you see yourself in 5 years?
A:  Kicking back at home on some worker's comp.

I like the "On a scale of 1-10, 1 being lowest 10 highest, rate your C++/C#/Java/etc. ability"  Almost invariably they answered a 7 or 8.  I've gotten a 5 once.

I then followed up with (depending on the number, say they said 7), "What kind of problem do you think a 5 or 6 would have trouble with".  Their answer tells me what they recently or maybe currently are having trouble with.

As I mentioned I'm not doing interviews anymore, even though the last person I interviewed we've hired and he's both a great fit and technically proficient.


What?  A 7 or 8 is a senior developer.  a 9-10 are actual gurus, not the idiot in your office who claims to be one. 3-4 are junior, 5-6 are mid level.  But my biggest weakness is my honesty...which reminds me I should mention my alcoholism.
 
2014-04-11 01:34:56 PM
A decade or two back my company partnered with another company to put their tech into our product.  Their lead guy was hella smart, and a major dick.  He could solve any problem tossed at him, but he spent more time bad-mouthing his fellow employees than working on the problem.

Couple months later his company went toes up, and he came in to interview.  As I said, the guy was brilliant.  In the interviewer's meeting we were all thumbs up on the guy.  Then our manager asked "if hired, do you want him on your team?"  A roomful of headshakes, and all those thumbs up went down.
 
2014-04-11 01:35:08 PM
Years ago. I sent a guy in for an interview and told him, "they like guys with confidence, and maybe a little cocky." So the candidate ended up chewing gum in the interview. He was told he wasn't a good fit.

/Tales of Headhunting.
 
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