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(Vocativ)   Student: "Bullies are attacking me". Principal: "You're just making stuff up with no proof". Student: "I have video that I secretly recorded of them bullying me". Principal: "I'm calling the cops to have you arrested for wiretapping"   (vocativ.com) divider line 229
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2014-04-12 01:28:12 PM  
Seems like there needs to be an exception as long as :

a) the recording party is present at the location of the recording.

b) the recording is designed to capture evidence of a criminal or harmful act.

c) the recording is never used as an implement for a criminal or harmful act.


So it's legal to record an assault or abuse, or to tape at a protest, as long as the recording is never used for blackmail.

The act of committing a criminal act should outweigh the expectation of privacy.

Also - Shouldn't the diminished capacity of a minor go to determining the motive and therefore the culpability of any 'wiretapping infringement' ?
 
2014-04-12 01:29:59 PM  

MNguy: rebelyell2006: MNguy: rebelyell2006: MNguy: Derp.  I get picked on so I'll show them.  Not by being a better or stronger or more intelligent person, but by shooting.

Sure, kid tries to use fancy talking and he'll open himself up for more torment and beatings. And if the adults won't step in and act like adults, what is the kid to do? Lay back, accept the bullying and not dress so provocatively next time, or fight back and perhaps kill a bully to send a message?

What message is being sent?  Pussies like guns?

No, more like "grow up and act like an adult or you will be put down like the mad dog that you are". Bullies should be euthanized.

I'm getting old, but I've found that alpha males end up being the bosses and little pussies end up being the 'he stole my stapler' types.


Perhaps, but at least the "pussies" keep their jobs (or get nice lawsuit settlements), while the disruptive thieves and non-functioning sociopaths get fired. So I've got job security, which is nice.

And nice "alpha male" schtick. Is /b/ down right now?
 
2014-04-12 01:32:14 PM  

MNguy: LeroyBourne: LeroyBourne: MNguy:

Sorry that your life sucks, but you need to find a way to stick up for yourself.  It's called a personality.  The peoper way does not involve weapons.

Oh, I think we're in full agreement, you're just being an ITT.  He went the correct route, he told an adult, who not only didn't help, but got him in trouble.  He's got the right to whip some arse if he can.  I just went the full extreme and worst case scenario which is also an option.

ITG*

When in the world is being a beta male justification for murder?   Is this a Walking Dead thread?


You're all over the place.  I'll just answer your question.  No, no this isn't a WD thread.
 
2014-04-12 01:33:08 PM  

soseussme: MNguy: LeroyBourne: b-maz: LeroyBourne: No one will/should be surprised if this kid brings a gun to school.

Was going to say, while I don't condone

Oh, I agree.  With all the school shootings I thought I was in the area of bad taste, but I went with it anyway.

Sorry you are a weak person with a weak personality and average intelligence.  Guns are the equalizer that make you socially superior and help you feel better.  School shooters are the absolute bottom of the barrel.

No, there's pedophiles, animal abusers, corrupt cops and politicians, and others who harm not out of cracking from psychological pressure because they don't have enough maturity or support to cope with abuse heaped on them and instead hurt others for their own personal gain and pleasure, of their own free will with no duress.

Oh, and trolls, because they are the same mentality, just on a tiny scale to match the size of their minds and penises.


I agree with you on all points, except the trolls.
 
2014-04-12 01:35:26 PM  

MNguy: soseussme: MNguy: LeroyBourne: b-maz: LeroyBourne: No one will/should be surprised if this kid brings a gun to school.

Was going to say, while I don't condone

Oh, I agree.  With all the school shootings I thought I was in the area of bad taste, but I went with it anyway.

Sorry you are a weak person with a weak personality and average intelligence.  Guns are the equalizer that make you socially superior and help you feel better.  School shooters are the absolute bottom of the barrel.

No, there's pedophiles, animal abusers, corrupt cops and politicians, and others who harm not out of cracking from psychological pressure because they don't have enough maturity or support to cope with abuse heaped on them and instead hurt others for their own personal gain and pleasure, of their own free will with no duress.

Oh, and trolls, because they are the same mentality, just on a tiny scale to match the size of their minds and penises.

I agree with you on all points, except the trolls.


So you admit that people become bullies because they were bullied at one point and couldn't find a way to deal with it? So much for your "alpha male" bully idea.
 
2014-04-12 01:40:42 PM  
MNguy,
I'm getting old, but I've found that alpha males end up being the bosses and little pussies end up being the 'he stole my stapler' types.


At the risk of simplifying a nuanced point, not all alphas are bullies and not all pussies are whiny biatches.  Alphas don't necessarily need to bully, it is the people competing for the attention of the alpha that tend to bully.  They are using social tools to climb the latter.

And just because someone is chosen as a mark by a bully, they may or may not be the whining pussies you frame them as.

To rephrase, dicks may fark a pussy, but they may fark an asshole as well.  And a pussy covered in shiat might as well be another asshole.
 
2014-04-12 01:42:01 PM  

Alonjar: lol... nerd tries to assert his superiority via internet trolling.  What a classic.

I wish I could be alpha like you.


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MNguy: When in the world is being a beta male justification


MNguy: nerds.jpg


MNguy: I've found that alpha males end up being the bosses and little pussies end up being the 'he stole my stapler' types.



Looks like I correctly stabbed at what I assumed would be the chink in your internet warrior armor.  I can see you just sitting there thinking about that dig over and over, enraged and threatened, while trying to pathetically deflect it back at other people, and failing miserably.  I take great satisfaction from this.

You got counter trolled by someone who played you like the predictable fiddle that you are.  Deal with it.
 
2014-04-12 01:43:26 PM  

Enemabag Jones: vd61
All the daytime television. That and shiatty parents that don't teach empathy.

Bullies tend to raise bullies. I had no idea.


Pretty much this.  Every bully I knew as a kid was trained to be a bully by his parents or some other family member.
 
2014-04-12 01:43:37 PM  
The most shocking thing is that this went to trial. The DA really couldn't have worked out a probation plea? He needed to send a tough message to disabled teenagers about what they're allowed to record?
 
2014-04-12 01:44:18 PM  
Next the bullies will sue the school and the victim
 
2014-04-12 01:44:28 PM  
And this is why kids would rather shoot up the school, or go on a stabbing rampage.
 
2014-04-12 01:45:10 PM  
I think Fark needs to lay the smack down on this idiot principal. Seriously that guy needs to DIAF

Feel free to send him a few choice words, or maybe other fun stuff if you're feeling adventurous...

His name is Scott and his email can be found right on the School's contact/webpage:  http://www.southfayette.org/sfsd-staff  (Just use the Assignment drop-down and select Principal).
 
2014-04-12 01:46:04 PM  
The reason the school is taking action, is because the student getting bullied is making it the school's problem, and they don't like that. Schools always ignore bullies when they can. The reason for this is that if you hae an asshole kid, you most likely have asshole parents. And nobody wants to go talk to them to have them scream at you about how little Butch Jr is the best kid in the world, and if you don't get off their lawn, they are gonna shoot you. They just don't want to deal with that.

And they know the kid who is getting bullied isn't gonna start shiat, so as long as little Bobby Tables stays nice and quiet, and takes his bullying like the little biatch he is, everything's gravy.

Fark the school administrators. Fark them sideways with a Christmas ham.
 
2014-04-12 01:47:32 PM  

Alonjar: Alonjar: lol... nerd tries to assert his superiority via internet trolling.  What a classic.

I wish I could be alpha like you.

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MNguy: When in the world is being a beta male justification

MNguy: nerds.jpg

MNguy: I've found that alpha males end up being the bosses and little pussies end up being the 'he stole my stapler' types.


Looks like I correctly stabbed at what I assumed would be the chink in your internet warrior armor.  I can see you just sitting there thinking about that dig over and over, enraged and threatened, while trying to pathetically deflect it back at other people, and failing miserably.  I take great satisfaction from this.

You got counter trolled by someone wt.ho played you like the predictable fiddle that you are.  Deal with it.


My wife is Asian.  Why do you have to get all racist about this?  Sounds like a guy who brings a knife to a fist fight
 
2014-04-12 01:48:49 PM  

thornhill: The most shocking thing is that this went to trial. The DA really couldn't have worked out a probation plea? He needed to send a tough message to disabled teenagers about what they're allowed to record?


If people record the truth, they will find out how bad it really is.
 
2014-04-12 01:49:30 PM  

MNguy: My wife is Asian.  Why do you have to get all racist about this?  Sounds like a guy who brings a knife to a fist fight


gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net
 
2014-04-12 01:53:31 PM  

MNguy: My wife is Asian.  Why do you have to get all racist about this?  Sounds like a guy who brings a knife to a fist fight


You sound like a guy who prefers his victims to be defenseless. Did you have a bad experience once while assaulting somebody?

But overall, a pretty lame deflection.
 
2014-04-12 01:54:30 PM  
I call BS on this. Not a single reputable news source has reported on this. Literally every google return on this story just leads to a blog who quoted a blog who quoted the original unsourced story on benswann.com

I don't believe for a second that with bullying being the hot button item it is that a local news reporter wouldn't be all over this.
 
2014-04-12 01:55:19 PM  

MNguy: Alonjar: Alonjar: lol... nerd tries to assert his superiority via internet trolling.  What a classic.

I wish I could be alpha like you.

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MNguy: When in the world is being a beta male justification

MNguy: nerds.jpg

MNguy: I've found that alpha males end up being the bosses and little pussies end up being the 'he stole my stapler' types.


Looks like I correctly stabbed at what I assumed would be the chink in your internet warrior armor.  I can see you just sitting there thinking about that dig over and over, enraged and threatened, while trying to pathetically deflect it back at other people, and failing miserably.  I take great satisfaction from this.

You got counter trolled by someone wt.ho played you like the predictable fiddle that you are.  Deal with it.

My wife is Asian.  Why do you have to get all racist about this?  Sounds like a guy who brings a knife to a fist fight


Honey, those Asian real-dolls don't count as wives.
 
2014-04-12 01:57:36 PM  
My last bully was a vice principal who was a foot shorter than me and tried to imitate R. Lee Ermey. I got tired of his shiat and tuned him out.
 
2014-04-12 02:04:45 PM  

abhorrent1: States need to get rid of this two party consent crap. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to record your interaction with anyone for any reason if you want too.


What I don't get is that PA has this law, but still has traffic cameras to ticket people, when you haven't given your consent to be recorded.
 
2014-04-12 02:07:09 PM  

frepnog: fireclown: This is why the baseball bat is the only answer.


He recorded it on his iPad. Beating the kids with the iPad until it's smashed to flinders and then forcing them to eat the broken iPad is the only answer. The baseball bat is best suited against the parents of the bullies.
 
2014-04-12 02:12:32 PM  

limeyfellow: abhorrent1: States need to get rid of this two party consent crap. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to record your interaction with anyone for any reason if you want too.

What I don't get is that PA has this law, but still has traffic cameras to ticket people, when you haven't given your consent to be recorded.


Because the law is concerns the interception of communication. The traffic camera (or the school security camera, as somebody thought to bring up upthread) does not record audio.
 
2014-04-12 02:13:09 PM  
If PA is a two-party convent state, how do security cameras work there? Not everyone photographed on such has consented. And what about people in the background of other peoples videos?

Can you go to jail in PA for wearing Google Glass there?

/stupid law is stupid.
 
2014-04-12 02:18:16 PM  

MNguy: Anyone who gets bullied usually deserves it.  Welcome to the real world.


As someone that was a  pretty merciless and violent bully in elementary and middle school...no. None of my victims deserved it.  At the time I thought they were "asking for it", but not because they really were, but because I was a farked up little asshole with rage problems.
 
2014-04-12 02:18:50 PM  

MNguy: rebelyell2006: MNguy: rebelyell2006: MNguy: Derp.  I get picked on so I'll show them.  Not by being a better or stronger or more intelligent person, but by shooting.

Sure, kid tries to use fancy talking and he'll open himself up for more torment and beatings. And if the adults won't step in and act like adults, what is the kid to do? Lay back, accept the bullying and not dress so provocatively next time, or fight back and perhaps kill a bully to send a message?

What message is being sent?  Pussies like guns?

No, more like "grow up and act like an adult or you will be put down like the mad dog that you are". Bullies should be euthanized.

I'm getting old, but I've found that alpha males end up being the bosses and little pussies end up being the 'he stole my stapler' types.


So when you are old, it will be totally cool that some young alpha male steals all your money because you are helpless to defend it? Cool.
 
2014-04-12 02:18:51 PM  
The father seems like a really great guy. I wonder why the wife left.

I don't know if I would have had such firm restraint. It's starting to become time to have video camera in all classrooms and hallways and have (hopefully) sensible and independent people monitor for abuses.

Now on the right side of the article is another article about men being raped by women...
 
2014-04-12 02:19:36 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: KidKorporate: And we ask ourselves why school shootings happen.

Weren't the bastards behind Columbine the bullies themselves?


If you believe the retconning that the bullies have been saying........
 
2014-04-12 02:23:17 PM  

payattention: illegal.tender - In a capitalist society, only the strong deserve to survive. We define "strong" as those who successfully prey upon those weaker than them for personal gain. This is something we want to encourage so that we will have a fresh new crop of Wall Street bankers and CIA agents to pull from.
/ Do I need a sarcasm tag here? Feels like I need a sarcasm tag.

No, you need a 'PREACH ON BROTHER!!' tag

//what surprises me the most is how most people complain about 'crazy conspiracy theories' then 40 years later we find out that the supposed 'theory' is fact and not crazy at all. How many times does this have to happen before people wake up to the subversion and subterfuge being practiced by our government and its agencies? You don't think that the above is their desired outcome and they are doing NOTHING to help it along?
//However, ignorance is bliss....


We do it because most of them ARE crazy and are NOT proven true years later.  Flouridation was not a commie plot, the Masons are not a secret satanic order, Dungeons and Dragons was not a secret Satanic plot.

The conspiracies that are true are the ones that involve few people and are nearly impossible to prove or disprove because they take advantage of what already happens.  The Iron Mountain conspiracy said that shadowy figures brought America into a state of perpetual war to control the plebs.  The truth is much simpler, a state of perpetual war is perpetually profitable and there's always SOMEONE willing to start a fight for bad reasons just because he wants to play with army men.
 
2014-04-12 02:24:02 PM  
If the school provided the iPad with the camera, the microphone and the software to record activities at school, then they facilitated and implicitly consented for themselves and minor persons in their charge, e.g. students.

Student wins.
 
2014-04-12 02:24:38 PM  

MNguy: soseussme: MNguy: LeroyBourne: b-maz: LeroyBourne: No one will/should be surprised if this kid brings a gun to school.

Was going to say, while I don't condone

Oh, I agree.  With all the school shootings I thought I was in the area of bad taste, but I went with it anyway.

Sorry you are a weak person with a weak personality and average intelligence.  Guns are the equalizer that make you socially superior and help you feel better.  School shooters are the absolute bottom of the barrel.

No, there's pedophiles, animal abusers, corrupt cops and politicians, and others who harm not out of cracking from psychological pressure because they don't have enough maturity or support to cope with abuse heaped on them and instead hurt others for their own personal gain and pleasure, of their own free will with no duress.

Oh, and trolls, because they are the same mentality, just on a tiny scale to match the size of their minds and penises.

I agree with you on all points, except the trolls.


I am not surprised.

Nice work if you can get it.
 
2014-04-12 02:24:59 PM  
The kid should take MMA classes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxW8TLtUMfM
 
2014-04-12 02:26:01 PM  
MNguy wins the thread, but still ends up as a horrible person.
 
2014-04-12 02:30:26 PM  

Alleyoop: ReverendJynxed: Pennsylvania makes it a crime to intercept or record a telephone call or conversation unless all parties to the conversation consent. See http://government.westlaw.com...

From TFA: The original recording was suspiciously deleted by school authorities...

Then there is no evidence of the "crime"... and isn't destroying evidence a felony?



If I was the judge I'd have dismissed the case for lack of evidence and had charges filed against the school authorities.      Messing with evidence is criminal behaviour.
 
2014-04-12 02:33:32 PM  

LoneCraneFullMoon: MNguy: Anyone who gets bullied usually deserves it.  Welcome to the real world.

As someone that was a  pretty merciless and violent bully in elementary and middle school...no. None of my victims deserved it.  At the time I thought they were "asking for it", but not because they really were, but because I was a farked up little asshole with rage problems.


Rage problems beget rage problems. I was lucky enough to graduate just along the cusp of Columbine and before schools (especially in PA, and yes they indeed suck that farking hard) went truly batshiat insane with "safety" and turning their facilities into effectively minimum security prisons without the perks. If I was a few years younger, I might have well been expelled for the things I said and did in frustration to being bullies. The only thing that stopped it was when I snapped in gym class in my sophomore year, shoved back hard when I got shoved, and headbutted a guy hard enough to break his nose.

I was suspended for two days, but that was worth it because, like a farking prison, I wasn't messed with after that for being weak or strange. My friends and parents applauded me, and if I didn't have support from them I might not have been strong enough to get through that period.

MNguy is a clear troll, but there's a layer of sad truth under his piles of bullshiat. That mentality does exist. That mentality manifests itself in children and teenagers and when that mentality isn't squashed it goes on to fark up adults. The difference is it's not a "fact of nature" or some social Darwinist alpha male MRA trying-desperately-to-hide-from-the few-flickers-of-guilt-left-in-my-psyche-over-what-a-shiatlord-I've-beco me justification. It's a hideous and common cancer of social development, and it's one that must be fought in any way short of lethal force.

Unfortunately, schools today are so paranoid and administrators are so cowardly that they rush to ruin bright but awkward young minds for expressing their frustrations in any way while ignoring clear evidence of bullying under the decades-old justification that "boys will be boys." Instead of addressing the problem, the easy thing to do is address the symptom because the right peoples' feathers don't get ruffled if you just address the symptom.
 
2014-04-12 02:33:32 PM  
The bullies were never punished.

That's bullshiat! The kid needs a good lawyer who will not only sue the school, but will go after the bullies for assault.

It's really bad when a kid, with no defense against those picking on him or her, gets in trouble for finding a way to prove what's going on, instead of coming back with a gun and blowing their shiat away.

Plus the example of the kid being picked on in front of the teacher was outrageous. When I went to school, doing that would have prompted the teacher to snatch up the offending kids and throw them out of class, usually right to the principals office, where discipline would be meted out and parents called.

We had bullies in my time, but admittedly, not much ability to stop them. Reporting them could mean that later, after school, the pi$$ed off bully would be waiting for you with his friends to beat you to a pulp. However, our teachers would step in physically to protect a kid from being beaten up and male teachers had no problem with punching an aggressive, kid if he refused to stop hitting the guy he was picking on.

In more problematic incidents, a code went out over the loud speakers for usually the gym and shop teachers, to show up and physically restrain a kid. Those teachers usually did not put up with any BS from their hormonal, aggressive students.

Other than that, a bullied kid had only one option for relief: fight -- and more than likely get his butt beaten. The bullies were almost always superior fighters. Sometimes a bullied kid did get respect for even attempting to physically fight back, but the cost was usually a lot of pain and probably a broken nose.

In this day and age (The Age of the Lawyer) the legalities get all confused and muddled. Especially concerning the technology and in a Public School I would not expect the kids to have any expectation of privacy -- especially since most schools are equipped with cameras, students have cell phones, computers which can take and distribute video, usually a law officer on the grounds and every student is exposed to every other student.

I've read where students keeping other students from getting seriously injured when attacked, wound up getting punished for being heroes and following the often advertised anti-bulling messages. In extreme cases, the rescuer opened himself up to being sued by the bullies parents for striking him as he beat the snot out of a weaker child.

Something similar decades ago, pre-cellphone, involving a doctor, a dying man, an auto crash and the middle of the night resulted in the start of medical lawsuits which have gone so far out of control that we pay hideously inflated prices for care now. The doctor saved the guy with inadequate supplies -- and later was sued for his efforts.

Exactly, what are people thinking when they make up these rules and regulations for kids in school? Doesn't anyone check for conflicts? It's like telling a kid he can defend himself, but can't do anything to physically or mentally hurt his attacker. However, the school will take severe steps if and when his attacker beats him into a bloody pulp because then, the attacker is wrong, according to the law.
 
2014-04-12 02:34:11 PM  

fluffy2097: MNguy: My wife is Asian.  Why do you have to get all racist about this?  Sounds like a guy who brings a knife to a fist fight


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g1 - your post just made it worth it for me to skim this thread
 
2014-04-12 02:36:27 PM  

itsaidwhat: If PA is a two-party convent state, how do security cameras work there? Not everyone photographed on such has consented. And what about people in the background of other peoples videos?


The law applies to places with a "reasonable expectation of privacy."  As defined by The Authorities (whoever they are at the time) and things like whether or not there are security cameras.  

Can you go to jail in PA for wearing Google Glass there?

Probably.  Conviction is uncertain if it turns out you weren't recording, but at that point they might press some other charge for "threatening" simply because the people who had you arrested don't want to admit they were wrong.  

/stupid law is stupid.

Stupid PEOPLE are stupid, see all the kerfluffle that erupts around Google Glass.
 
2014-04-12 02:39:15 PM  

Rik01: Exactly, what are people thinking when they make up these rules and regulations for kids in school? Doesn't anyone check for conflicts? It's like telling a kid he can defend himself, but can't do anything to physically or mentally hurt his attacker. However, the school will take severe steps if and when his attacker beats him into a bloody pulp because then, the attacker is wrong, according to the law.


I find it depressing that I can use this meme in so many ways and that it's always in a way that's horrifically truthful.

i.imgur.com

You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying. If, tomorrow, I tell the press that a bookish kid will get beaten bloody or an introverted and ostracized teenager will consider suicide, nobody panics, because it's "all part of the plan." But when I say one little nerd will use technology to prove abuse, or that another will simply crumble under the pressure and come into school with a gun and the ultimate goal of suicide by cop because they can't handle it anymore, then everyone loses their minds.
 
2014-04-12 02:42:26 PM  
I was a nerdy kid, I brought 'Tropic of Cancer' into class when we were supposed to be reading Shakespeare. Why don't you buckle up and be a person unto your own right instead of identifying with your oppressors so goddamn much for the rest of your pathetic lives?
 
2014-04-12 02:42:57 PM  
That is totally farked up. The kid should have never been charged and the bullies punished.

I have to strongly suspect the bullies are the sons of rich and powerful fathers in the community or else stars on one of the schools sports teams.

Seriously in a situation like this in which a crime is being committed against the one making the recording the wiretapping law should not apply.

If the person entrapped the person then yes it should but that does not appear to be the case here.
 
2014-04-12 02:43:20 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: ReverendJynxed: Uh, as long as one of the parties involved (the victim in this case) has knowledge of the taping, it's ok ain't it?

That depends on the state.  In PA, you need the consent of all parties.


But only for the audio portion of the recording. If any law needs reformed it's that one, as we plainly see by the article.
 
2014-04-12 02:45:44 PM  
I've seen cases in the news where the DA declined to prosecute a "wiretap" offense when the accused was obviously recording audio/video for defense purposes rather than wiretapping. There's no excuse for a DA to choose otherwise.
 
2014-04-12 02:45:45 PM  

JesusJuice: KidKorporate: And we ask ourselves why school shootings happen.

He did all he could without violence and no one cared. I wouldn't begrudge him murdering the bullies; including the principal.


No, man. Not cool. He's just a kid and lynching the principal is adult work. Now, if his father accidentally discharged a firearm in the direction of said principal ... well, the prosecution wouldn't want me on the jury.
 
2014-04-12 02:49:52 PM  
Nothing new about this.
 
2014-04-12 02:50:37 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Public Schools are actionable Child Abuse

Why are you putting your children in an MMA fight pit of harm?


Because most schools  aren't like that?

/went to a charter school
//shiatty education, but without separating all the kids, we got along pretty well
 
2014-04-12 02:55:09 PM  
MNguy is the most obvious troll I've ever seen and yet is playing you jackasses like a violin. WTF is wrong with you?
 
2014-04-12 02:55:28 PM  

Alonjar: MNguy: You can't socially fit in?  That's your problem.

I dont know, if I chose to come shoot you in the face, I'd say it has very much become your problem.




Hit the ignore button on this jerk.
 
2014-04-12 02:57:25 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: MNguy is the most obvious troll I've ever seen and yet is playing you jackasses like a violin. WTF is wrong with you?


sorry you got picked on in junior high and still foster revenge fantasies
 
2014-04-12 02:58:01 PM  

RandomRandom: Time for a civil suit against the school for failing to protect the student.  The risk had been reported multiple times, the school took no action. Even after evidence had been provided, the school continued to take no action against the bullies.

They're going after the victim because they don't want recording to become a common response to inaction by school administrators.

The criminal portion of this could be challenged if the school had cameras.  If the school had cameras, the bullies would have no expectation of privacy and the state law requiring all parties to know of a recording should not apply.

Sad to say, civil suits are often the only way to force a bureaucracy to change a terrible behavior.


The charge is open to challenge even without cameras; as has been said up-thread, sinc ehte "conversation" took place in a schoolroom, which is by nature a public location, it very likely doesn't fall under the wiretapping statute. I'd also add that bullying is an essentially public act meant not only to humiliate but to draw attention to that humiliation so as to make it worse, and that by slamming the book down on the desk next to the kid, one of the bullies committed an action that could not but be meant to drawn attention, meaning that the charge is even more questionable on its face. IMHO, the principle in question needs to be fired as they've mucked up this situation in about every way they had to muck it up in.
 
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