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2014-04-11 10:35:11 AM
Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?
 
2014-04-11 10:44:23 AM
Did anyone else hear Michael Cane's voice as you read him rebuking Alfie?

/tangerine
 
2014-04-11 10:44:27 AM

damat01: Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?


Followed up by which of these movies needed a remake?
 
2014-04-11 10:52:18 AM

Lord_Dubu: Did anyone else hear Michael Cane's voice as you read him rebuking Alfie?

/tangerine


This is how Michael Caine speaks...
 
2014-04-11 10:59:42 AM
Can we just retire the concept of a 'hater'?  It's so damn 1997.  Get a new shtick kids.
 
2014-04-11 11:13:21 AM
Must be a subculture in Hollywood that goes around robbing ideas from Japanese, French, and Swedish filmmakers; take a movie with a really good script, story, actors, editing, direction, but a low budget - rush it through production by cutting every corner and spending $40 million on cgi, with $5 mil on promotion. If they come in under budget and the film does well in the US market, remaking a classic is the reward.

I'm not surprised it doesn't work well. A well done classic is closer to literature than stage. Hey, I got am idea! Let's rewrite Hamlet, but we'll make it a comedy set in an urban slum. Somebody spend a day drawing storyboards to send to cgi. Tell casting to go cheap - this story tells itself!
 
2014-04-11 12:03:58 PM

Lord_Dubu: Did anyone else hear Michael Cane's voice as you read him rebuking Alfie?

/tangerine


You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off.
 
2014-04-11 12:04:56 PM
Site is blocked. What's the list?
 
2014-04-11 12:07:18 PM

damat01: Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?


Wizard of Oz (1939) was a remake of a silent movie version. And it is one of the most celebrated movies.
 
2014-04-11 12:08:18 PM
"When he had to do fart jokes, he lost me. As a matter of fact, I told his editor, If he wants any more from me on a creative level, tell him to pull the whole sequence. What I did was perfect. And all you're going to do is diminish that perfection by letting someone else do it. I won't go through it again."

Oh, STFU Jerry.  Just because the French thought you were a genius doesn't mean you really are one.
 
2014-04-11 12:08:37 PM
The one aspect I liked in the RoboCop reboot was the level of detail in the robotics, especially when he was disassembled.  My friend and I freaked when we saw that.

I loved the original when it first came out and "proceeded with caution" regarding the reboot.  If the original did not exist, and the reboot was seen as a fresh movie, I think it earned good marks.  Either way, I don't think it should be compared to the original at all.
 
2014-04-11 12:08:54 PM

yves0010: damat01: Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?

Wizard of Oz (1939) was a remake of a silent movie version. And it is one of the most celebrated movies.


Aaaaand... looking.... looking....  NOPE, not on this list.
 
2014-04-11 12:09:20 PM

damat01: Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?


Not subby but 1982's The Thing is the only remake worth a shiat that I can come up with.
 
2014-04-11 12:11:17 PM
Remakes aren't bad. I have no idea why people object to them. I like the 3rd version of The Maltese Falcon. The 1939 version of The Wizard of Oz was something like the 6th or 7th crack at it. There have been dozens of versions of Dickens  A Christmas Carol. New versions of Shakespeare plays come down the pike like clockwork. If we didn't get new versions of Pride and Prejudice we'd only have one Mr. Collins. Etc. Etc.

What people should object to are crap remakes. But then what they'd be objecting to was the crap part.
 
2014-04-11 12:11:17 PM

Orgasmatron138: Site is blocked. What's the list?


Nightmare on Elm Street
Manchurian Candidate
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Nutty Professor
Wicker Man
Alfie
Robocop
 
2014-04-11 12:14:17 PM

yakmans_dad: What people should object to are crap remakes. But then what they'd be objecting to was the crap part.


I think there should be a difference between a remake (which, I would expect if I was a person who has never been subject to one before, a shot-for-shot remake of the original, but with better CGI, newer actors, etc), and a "re-imagining", kind of like Star Trek is doing now with the "alternate reality" thing now.

Though there are some that are just unforgivable regardless of what you call it, like the newer Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. That was just awful when seen as a new movie, remake, re-imagining, etc.
 
2014-04-11 12:16:16 PM
The only one I disagreed with was Jerry Lewis.
 
2014-04-11 12:16:18 PM
I realize it is a TV show but I think the all-dog remake of The Time Tunnel was better than the original.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-11 12:19:36 PM
The remake of The Manchurian Candidate wasn't too bad -- not better than the original, but different enough to be effective.
 
2014-04-11 12:19:56 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: "When he had to do fart jokes, he lost me. As a matter of fact, I told his editor, If he wants any more from me on a creative level, tell him to pull the whole sequence. What I did was perfect. And all you're going to do is diminish that perfection by letting someone else do it. I won't go through it again."

Oh, STFU Jerry.  Just because the French thought you were a genius doesn't mean you really are one.


Considering that he was the executive producer on the film, means that he should probably not have
cashed all those cheques if he was so displeased.
 
2014-04-11 12:20:24 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: "When he had to do fart jokes, he lost me. As a matter of fact, I told his editor, If he wants any more from me on a creative level, tell him to pull the whole sequence. What I did was perfect. And all you're going to do is diminish that perfection by letting someone else do it. I won't go through it again."

Oh, STFU Jerry.  Just because the French thought you were a genius doesn't mean you really are one.



Yep. This is also the douche who doesn't like women comedians as he thinks of them only as producing machines. I'm gonna call BS on what he considers "perfection."
 
2014-04-11 12:21:11 PM

BizarreMan: damat01: Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?

Followed up by which of these movies needed a remake?


Not only that, they pretty much all gave concrete reasons for why they didn't like it, with the exception of Gene Wilder on Willy Wonka. Robert Englund and Michael Caine in particular.
 
2014-04-11 12:25:46 PM

damat01: Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?


As a die hard fan (Romero is my youngest sons middle name), I have to admit the remake of Dawn of the Dead was great.
 
2014-04-11 12:37:19 PM

Lord_Dubu: Did anyone else hear Michael Cane's voice as you read him rebuking Alfie?

/tangerine


Michael Caine does Michael Caine.
 
2014-04-11 12:38:05 PM

damat01: Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?


Yeah, nothing in this group, but I think there are remakes that are occasionally superior to the original. FOr example, William Friedkin's  Sorcerer was, I believe, superior to the original  The Wages of Fear. Unfortunately, the studio changed the title on the remake so no one knew what it was about - and worse, released it in the summer of 1977, the same time that  Star Wars came out.
 
2014-04-11 12:38:32 PM
Sounds like nearly everyone on that list is correct in their assessment. Subby must be a 13 year old.
 
2014-04-11 12:38:37 PM
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory sucked.
Willy Wonka ruled that shiat.

That is all.
 
2014-04-11 12:45:19 PM

Prairie: damat01: Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?

As a die hard fan (Romero is my youngest sons middle name), I have to admit the remake of Dawn of the Dead was great.


I still say fast and powerful zombies are an insult to the genre. Not that you can't make a movie like that, just call them rabid blood-thirsty cannibals or something.
 
2014-04-11 12:53:30 PM
It wasn't "perfection", but Lewis's "Nutty Professor" WAS a lot better than the remake.  Buddy Love was a much better alter ego, in what was basically another remake of "Jekyll and Hyde".
 
2014-04-11 01:05:27 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Can we just retire the concept of a 'hater'?  It's so damn 1997.  Get a new shtick kids.


Haters gonna hate
 
2014-04-11 01:07:41 PM

KingKauff: AliceBToklasLives: Can we just retire the concept of a 'hater'?  It's so damn 1997.  Get a new shtick kids.

Haters gonna hate


content.twistmagazine.com
 
2014-04-11 01:08:12 PM
Making money is terrible.
 
2014-04-11 01:09:38 PM

RoxtarRyan: Orgasmatron138: Site is blocked. What's the list?

Nightmare on Elm Street
Manchurian Candidate
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Nutty Professor
Wicker Man
Alfie
Robocop


What's interesting is every single one of those originals is quirky in its own right.  Not just an original idea, but quirkily done, unique in execution.  Every one of the remakes is cookie cutter.  Bland production, uninspired on most every level.  Except for the Wicker Man remake, where the lunatic Neil LaBute shows us his lunacy full bore.
 
2014-04-11 01:10:05 PM

Lord_Dubu: Did anyone else hear Michael Cane's voice as you read him rebuking Alfie?

/tangerine


if you say "My Cocaine" you are saying Michael Cain's name in his own voice.
 
2014-04-11 01:10:29 PM

acaciaavenue: Sounds like nearly everyone on that list is correct in their assessment. Subby must be a 13 year old.


I've noticed a lot of kiddos tend to think that any movie made before they were born (or were old enough to appreciate) are antiquated rubbish and need a modern remake to bring them up with the times....

/i DARE someone to try to remake The Hunt For Red October
 
2014-04-11 01:18:57 PM

RoxtarRyan: Orgasmatron138: Site is blocked. What's the list?

Nightmare on Elm Street
Manchurian Candidate
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Nutty Professor
Wicker Man
Alfie
Robocop


Wait, what's wrong with the Wicker Man remake?

/snerk
 
2014-04-11 01:21:42 PM

Sasquach: /i DARE someone to try to remake The Hunt For Red October


Only if Alec Baldwin plays Ramius.
 
2014-04-11 01:23:59 PM

yakmans_dad: Remakes aren't bad. I have no idea why people object to them. I like the 3rd version of The Maltese Falcon. The 1939 version of The Wizard of Oz was something like the 6th or 7th crack at it. There have been dozens of versions of Dickens  A Christmas Carol. New versions of Shakespeare plays come down the pike like clockwork. If we didn't get new versions of Pride and Prejudice we'd only have one Mr. Collins. Etc. Etc.


It's also worth pointing out that those 2 well-loved remakes also came at a time, around the late 30s/early 40s when film making had basically matured as an art form. The Wizard of Oz was only 12 years after the first talkie.  You get the odd interesting one where someone takes a bad film and improves it (Man on Fire, Ocean's 11) or redefines it for different times (The Thomas Crown Affair) but in general, they're just cheap rehashes.

You know what really needs a good movie? Macbeth. There's Kurosawa's Throne of Blood, but there's no good, english language, colour, sound version of Macbeth.
 
2014-04-11 01:35:46 PM

yakmans_dad: Remakes aren't bad. I have no idea why people object to them. I like the 3rd version of The Maltese Falcon. The 1939 version of The Wizard of Oz was something like the 6th or 7th crack at it. There have been dozens of versions of Dickens  A Christmas Carol. New versions of Shakespeare plays come down the pike like clockwork. If we didn't get new versions of Pride and Prejudice we'd only have one Mr. Collins. Etc. Etc.

What people should object to are crap remakes. But then what they'd be objecting to was the crap part.


There's an early version of Brewster's Millions and an early Age of Innocence.  I don't know if I can claim the former (Richard Pryor) is a straight-up classic, the second one is, and both are far better than the early attempts.
 
2014-04-11 01:56:59 PM

yakmans_dad: Lord_Dubu: Did anyone else hear Michael Cane's voice as you read him rebuking Alfie?

/tangerine

You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off.


She was only sixteen years old.
 
2014-04-11 02:10:09 PM

Glenford: Lord_Dubu: Did anyone else hear Michael Cane's voice as you read him rebuking Alfie?

/tangerine

Michael Caine does Michael Caine.


Not only is that awesome, but I would LOVE a Michael Caine GPS voice.
 
2014-04-11 02:22:40 PM

rikdanger: damat01: Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?

Yeah, nothing in this group, but I think there are remakes that are occasionally superior to the original. FOr example, William Friedkin's  Sorcerer was, I believe, superior to the original  The Wages of Fear. Unfortunately, the studio changed the title on the remake so no one knew what it was about - and worse, released it in the summer of 1977, the same time that  Star Wars came out.


Preordered the Bluray last week...
 
2014-04-11 02:25:45 PM
I liked the Willy Wonka remake well enough except for Willy Wonka. Gene Wilder's Wonka was a bit insane but you always got the idea he knew exactly what was going on. Johnny Depp's Wonka, well wtf was going on with that guy.
 
2014-04-11 02:31:50 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: rikdanger: damat01: Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?

Yeah, nothing in this group, but I think there are remakes that are occasionally superior to the original. FOr example, William Friedkin's  Sorcerer was, I believe, superior to the original  The Wages of Fear. Unfortunately, the studio changed the title on the remake so no one knew what it was about - and worse, released it in the summer of 1977, the same time that  Star Wars came out.

Preordered the Bluray last week...


Me too! Huzzah!
 
2014-04-11 02:40:11 PM

Confabulat: I liked the Willy Wonka remake well enough except for Willy Wonka. Gene Wilder's Wonka was a bit insane but you always got the idea he knew exactly what was going on. Johnny Depp's Wonka, well wtf was going on with that guy.


Everything about Depp's Wonka screamed "child molester."
I wouldn't have allowed my kids within 1,000 yards of him.

Also, CGI'ing Deep Roy into being every Oompa Loompa.
 
2014-04-11 02:42:13 PM

Sasquach: /i DARE someone to try to remake The Hunt For Red October


Problem is that studios want to be able to get money from showing movies worldwide. That means you can't offend the Chinese or the Russians. Since it's unlikely anyone is going to believe Afghanistan has a navy, that leaves only a few countries that could be the bad guys. Somehow I doubt you're going to get much in the way of a submarine innovation from North Korea.
 
2014-04-11 02:43:27 PM

Enomai: damat01: Tell me Subby, out of this group, which remakes are better than the original?

Not subby but 1982's The Thing is the only remake worth a shiat that I can come up with.

Invasion of the Body Snatchers

from 1978 is better than the 1956 version. And better than the 2007 remake, too.

The Coen Brothers' True Grit was better than John Wayne's.

I'd say that Soderbergh's Solaris is better than the Tarkovsky version, but I can acknowledge that other people might strongly disagree.

We're kind of scraping the barrel here, but the 2007 The Hitcher is better than the C. Thomas Howell one from the '80s, mostly because it lacks C. Thomas Howell.
 
2014-04-11 03:01:15 PM

RoxtarRyan: Orgasmatron138: Site is blocked. What's the list?

Nightmare on Elm Street
Manchurian Candidate
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Nutty Professor
Wicker Man
Alfie
Robocop


Yeah, none of those should have been remade.

NOT THE BEES!
 
2014-04-11 03:03:24 PM

Wellon Dowd: Sasquach: /i DARE someone to try to remake The Hunt For Red October

Only if Alec Baldwin plays Ramius.


dear God I hope no one tries to remake The Terminator.  I don't think Cameron's work can be matched on that one.
 
2014-04-11 03:06:18 PM

Dr Jack Badofsky: dear God I hope no one tries to remake The Terminator.


Why would they remake it when #5 is about to start filming?
 
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