pheed: That is just awful. And it's been going on since 2011?! I can't find where the article might mention the genius who inserted the sentence
doglover: We have altered your refunds. Pray we do not alter them further.
kronicfeld: I am having trouble finding words for how insanely idiotic the first portion of submitter's headline is.
Gulper Eel: kronicfeld: I am having trouble finding words for how insanely idiotic the first portion of submitter's headline is.The point of it is this.Todd Platts was the Republican congressman who inserted this bit of hot buttered idiocy into the farm bill back in '05. And this kind of weaselly legislative move is the rule, not the exception. It took eight years for a major media outlet to notice what he'd done, and even when they did run an article the reporter couldn't be arsed to find the name of the congressman responsible. That job fell to readers. The problem isn't media bias, it's media incompetence.
kronicfeld: I am having trouble finding words for how insanely idiotic the first portion of submitter's headline is. I think it literally just gave me AIDS.
kronicfeld: Those are all cogent observations, and I do not disagree. But the flaming retardery of the headline does not intersect at all with what you just said.
Gulper Eel: kronicfeld: Those are all cogent observations, and I do not disagree. But the flaming retardery of the headline does not intersect at all with what you just said.Okay, my further point is that legislated stupidity like this just goes unexamined because of...I don't know, some misguided belief that to actually root this out will mean throwing the baby out with the bath water, and that the people who want to root out the waste are assumed to have nefarious reasons to be doing so, and therefore we have to take the bad with the good, gotta break a few eggs, etc.As if the people who put this kind of thing into our legislation didn't have nefarious reasons?I could be wrong about the above. It's possible that Platts was simply reflecting the views of his damn fool constituents.
Aldon: WTF?Since when has it been legal in the US to punish children for the crimes of their parents?
Caffeine Induced Diarrhea: Is subby doing a Colbert or is he/she just dumb?
amiable: Wow, the Somalia thing really has your guys asses chapped doesn't it? There are creams for that.
zeroman987: Aldon: WTF?Since when has it been legal in the US to punish children for the crimes of their parents?It's not their parent's debts. The author doesn't know how survivor benefits work.The mom receives the money on behalf of the child, but it is the child's money.Also they don't start taking tax returns until they tried to collect it through other means first.Why should the tax payer be responsible for improper payments. They person who received the benefit should have to pay it back. This isn't monopoly... You don't get to collect a bank error in your favor.
LavenderWolf: There's a statute of limitations on most debts, why not this?
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eiger: kronicfeld: I am having trouble finding words for how insanely idiotic the first portion of submitter's headline is. I think it literally just gave me AIDS.If the government ever does ANYTHING wrong or unjust that proves that we don't need government. Duh.Note: The same logic does not apply to corporations, religions Christianity or Judaism, or the super wealthy.
HotWingConspiracy: When you starve the beast it gets hungry, starts looking for food.
BrotherThaddeus: I suppose there could be an argument made that if the IRS was not aware of the death of the debtor
BrotherThaddeus: However, there should be a pretty stringent statute of limitations on this kind of thing
BrotherThaddeus: Just claiming a debt and taking the money is unacceptable.
MBrady: So what. Call up 0bama [*chug*] and have him tell the Treasury department not to enforce that part of the law. Marijuana is Federally illegal, and 0bama [*chug*] has instructed the ATF (?) to not enforce the law.
grinding_journalist: HotWingConspiracy: When you starve the beast it gets hungry, starts looking for food.Oh, and it's gonna get better. This will get dismissed as crackpottery, but if you don't think the gov't will start simply seizing private liquid assets when SS and other welfare checks start bouncing (and they will), you're fooling yourself.Inb4 "that's so totally illegal it'll never happen"; when has that EVER stopped them before? To paraphrase Mallory Archer, "Even if it IS illegal, they'll just act like it is, they're the government."It'll be something like"To offset shortfalls in budgeting (and to delay the collapse of American society) we're introducing a tax that appropriates 25% of a pool of cash in any account if that account has $10,000 or more in it. It's not like anyone ever needs that much cash lying around anyway, it's probably a front for drug runners. Also, this law went into effect last night, your money is already gone. Have fun suing us."
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