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(Joystiq)   1999 was a hell of a year for PC gaming: System Shock 2 and Age of Empires II have had reboots, and now Outcast -- a sandbox mix of Fallout 3 and Stargate -- is gunning for a second chance   (joystiq.com) divider line 54
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2014-04-11 03:36:48 AM
Never played it, but I liked Fallout 3.  Has anyone played the original?  Was it good?
 
2014-04-11 08:34:46 AM

ciberido: Has anyone played the original? Was it good?


it was pretty goddamn fantastic. both 1 and 2.
 
2014-04-11 08:58:49 AM
At what time was System Shock 2 "rebooted"?
 
2014-04-11 09:03:39 AM

ciberido: Never played it, but I liked Fallout 3.  Has anyone played the original?  Was it good?


Fallout 1 was good, and Fallout 2 took everything great about 1 and ran with it.  It was way longer then 1, and had a ton of more content.

The games do show their age a little.  They are 3rd person Isometric view (so, look at your character at an angle), turn based combat.  The issue with F2 is that at the beginning somebody forced the dev team to include the "Temple of Trials" as a mandatory tutorial area.  This area has mostly low level mutated ants as mobs, but no guns, so if you don't have any points in unarmed/melee you are going to get frustrated going through it (lots of misses on attack) and it might turn you off.  But if you stick with it the payoff is amazing.

/my favorite gaming series of all time
 
2014-04-11 09:08:22 AM

sprawl15: ciberido: Has anyone played the original? Was it good?

it was pretty goddamn fantastic. both 1 and 2.


This reminds me I havent checked on Wasteland 2 for a while.  Still in beta and I aint seeing a release date set.
 
2014-04-11 09:20:17 AM
Also, my opinion of "best year of gaming" would definitely be 1996:

Duke Nukem 3D - Definite improvement in sprite based FPS ( jetpacks, shrinking/freezing guns, multiplayer was a blast), plus the BUILD engine was easy to mod.

Civiliaztion 2 - My first foray into the Civ series, and many lost hours

Quake - While light (or non-existent) on story, defintely a step in the right direction for 3D polygon FPS games.

TES: Daggerfall - Classic game of The Elder Scrolls series

Command and Conquer - Red Alert:  RTS at it's finest

Diablo - Need I say more?

Other notable games:
Pokemon Red/Green
Resident Evil
Super Mario 64
Master of Orion 2
Tomb Raider


1994 would be a close second...what with Tie Fighter and all.....
 
2014-04-11 09:33:30 AM
"a sandbox mix of Fallout 3 and Stargate "

This sounds like it promises waaaaay more than it can deliver.
 
2014-04-11 09:37:26 AM
Looks real interesting, just added a $25 pledge but seems like the pledges are slowing down after an initial craze. Never played the original, missed it in 99, but it's on GoG for 6 bucks so may check it out there and pledge more if I like it.
 
2014-04-11 09:40:29 AM
woah woah woah back up, where's my system shock 2 reboot?
 
2014-04-11 09:42:13 AM
Meh, I have searched in vain for a 90's vintage shareware RPG where you were galavanting around the wilderness trying to unlock different sections of the map to finally kill a demon...played the crap out of that back in the day but I can't recall what it was called...
 
2014-04-11 09:42:56 AM

RoxtarRyan: "a sandbox mix of Fallout 3 and Stargate "

This sounds like it promises waaaaay more than it can deliver.


Don't worry.  You'll only have to wait at least two years for the reboot to be released, assuming it ever gets released.
 
2014-04-11 09:45:56 AM

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Meh, I have searched in vain for a 90's vintage shareware RPG where you were galavanting around the wilderness trying to unlock different sections of the map to finally kill a demon...played the crap out of that back in the day but I can't recall what it was called...


A hit of LSD?
 
2014-04-11 09:45:57 AM

DaStompa: woah woah woah back up, where's my system shock 2 reboot?


SS is still under lock and key..

The supposed reboot was Bioshlock and it was unadulterated horse apples...
 
2014-04-11 09:50:19 AM

nulluspixiusdemonica: DaStompa: woah woah woah back up, where's my system shock 2 reboot?

SS is still under lock and key..

The supposed reboot was Bioshlock and it was unadulterated horse apples...


Hey hey hey....that's "spiritual successor"!

/Dues Ex was a better SS spiritual successor
 
2014-04-11 09:51:58 AM
static.giantbomb.com
 
2014-04-11 09:54:47 AM

Dimensio: At what time was System Shock 2 "rebooted"?


since the outcast 'reboot' looks to be just an hd remake, they're probably talking about high rez texture packs or something else that isn't a reboot
 
2014-04-11 09:55:22 AM

Burr: /Dues Ex was a better SS spiritual successor

smashthestate

 
2014-04-11 09:58:17 AM

nulluspixiusdemonica: DaStompa: woah woah woah back up, where's my system shock 2 reboot?

SS is still under lock and key..

The supposed reboot was Bioshlock and it was unadulterated horse apples...


Dead Space is also bundled under the reboot / spiritual successor to System Shock. Just no crazy AI, only zombies.
 
2014-04-11 10:09:48 AM
Burr:  Command and Conquer - Red Alert:  RTS at it's finest

I'd be very happy just seeing HD versions of all the older C&C games, they could just use the Generals engine and I'd be super cool with that.
 
2014-04-11 10:11:34 AM

The_Time_Master: Dead Space is also bundled under the reboot / spiritual successor to System Shock. Just no crazy AI, only zombies.


dead space is in a different genre: wacky waving arm flailing inflatable tube man monster closet
 
2014-04-11 10:42:29 AM
sounds cool, but just someone please just make a stargate game already arg...
 
2014-04-11 11:55:25 AM
I bought Outcast on GoG a few years ago. I should probably try playing it. Also am I the only one who thinks the definition of reboot is starting to get a little too broad? Calling an HD re-release a reboot is like calling a movie on Blu-Ray a reboot of the DVD.
 
2014-04-11 12:35:09 PM
Don't forget Freespace 2, perhaps the last great single-player space sim, also came out in 99.  Still an active modding community for it today; they've made huge improvements in the game's engine, and many high-quality user-created campaigns have been released (Blue Planet is probably the biggest and most widely regarded as the best, and there have been total conversions too, like a Wing Commander campaign, BSG campaigns, and B5 campaigns.)

http://scp.indiegames.us/
http://www.hard-light.net/
 
2014-04-11 12:50:12 PM
seriously though a graphically enhanced, rebalanced ss2 would make me moist
 
2014-04-11 12:58:17 PM
Is unreal ever getting an update or is it dead forever? I really liked that game and still play UT2K4 every now and then.
 
2014-04-11 01:16:29 PM
static.gamesradar.com
Never played the game, but I do recall the interesting box art I saw at a Costco and Fry's that sold it.

I think I'd take my chances with Planescape: Torment, a "classic" I never played, than this on GoG, let alone a Kickstarter asking for more money. Didn't like Baldur's Gate, so still hesitant about P:T.

NightSteel: Don't forget Freespace 2, perhaps the last great single-player space sim, also came out in 99.


Freelancer I preferred and that came out later. Xwing Alliance also came out in 99.

Bought Freespace 2 while in college, got stuck on one mission, forgot about it. Got a GoG copy a few years back, but I don't have a PC controller -- and my carpal inflammations in my hands would probably biatch.

I will take painkillers for an Xwing/TIE Fighter reboot though.
 
2014-04-11 01:26:33 PM

sprawl15: seriously though a graphically enhanced, rebalanced ss2 would make me moist


Or just make an actual system shock 3.
 
2014-04-11 01:27:40 PM

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Meh, I have searched in vain for a 90's vintage shareware RPG where you were galavanting around the wilderness trying to unlock different sections of the map to finally kill a demon...played the crap out of that back in the day but I can't recall what it was called...


Sounds like King's Bounty, except you were unlocking sections of map to find an item that would let you rule the kindom (and win).
 
2014-04-11 01:35:40 PM
Friend of mine let me borrow on the 486 a game that had Dungeons and Dragons races and classes (elves, humans, halflings, mages, rogues) but was more of a Sim-city/Dungeon Keeper lite wannabe than RPG; you had to build groves for elves, casinos and bars for rogues, etc. as well as housing, food storage and training facilities.

Anyone recall what it was?
 
2014-04-11 02:17:29 PM

ciberido: Never played it, but I liked Fallout 3.  Has anyone played the original?  Was it good?


Original Fallout good? Son, Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas were good, but they weren't no Fallout.
 
2014-04-11 02:49:43 PM

Herr Flick's Revenge: sprawl15: seriously though a graphically enhanced, rebalanced ss2 would make me moist

Or just make an actual system shock 3.


would take a lot more effort and provide a lot more routes to totally fark things up a la bioshock or thi4f

a proper rebalance (well, balance in the first place) of ss2 would be hard enough
 
2014-04-11 03:13:11 PM
Practical_Draconian:
I will take painkillers for an Xwing/TIE Fighter reboot though.

http://www.starwarsattacksquadrons.com/
 
2014-04-11 03:43:35 PM
SS2 reboot? You mean Bioshock? Mm hm.. Hmm hmm.. Ha ha ha.. Ha ha ha!!
 
2014-04-11 03:47:33 PM
Sadly, System Shock 2 sold terribly. I can see why they may like Bioshock more.
 
2014-04-11 03:52:42 PM
1999? How about a Starsiege remake?

/second-best mech game of all time
 
2014-04-11 04:09:21 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: 1999? How about a Starsiege remake?

/second-best mech game of all time


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKNTsEphb1U

That would be awesome.
 
2014-04-11 04:26:43 PM

iamepic: Practical_Draconian:
I will take painkillers for an Xwing/TIE Fighter reboot though.

http://www.starwarsattacksquadrons.com/


Yeah. I'll believe that when I see it. I agree with the Boobies: we need a real god damned version, and we need it 5 years ago.
 
2014-04-11 04:27:02 PM

iamepic: Practical_Draconian:
I will take painkillers for an Xwing/TIE Fighter reboot though.

http://www.starwarsattacksquadrons.com/


Judging from the leaked videos on youtube, that game looks much more in the vein of the Rogue Squadron series, but even more lowest-common-denominator. Simplified spaceflight, no energy or shield management, scripted loop and barrel roll maneuvers straight out of Star Fox 64.

It looks like Disney bought some college student's term project and used it as a market test. It's even made in Unity3D which is kind of a joke engine.
 
2014-04-11 04:27:45 PM
Call me when they remake Robinson's Requiem.
 
2014-04-11 04:47:40 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-11 04:57:04 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: 1999? How about a Starsiege remake?

/second-best mech game of all time


Best mech game of all time:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-11 04:57:31 PM

Practical_Draconian: Friend of mine let me borrow on the 486 a game that had Dungeons and Dragons races and classes (elves, humans, halflings, mages, rogues) but was more of a Sim-city/Dungeon Keeper lite wannabe than RPG; you had to build groves for elves, casinos and bars for rogues, etc. as well as housing, food storage and training facilities.

Anyone recall what it was?


I think it was called Stronghold, which is gonna make searching for it hard as there's now a whole unrelated series of stronghold games.
 
2014-04-11 05:16:55 PM

Prime: Practical_Draconian: Friend of mine let me borrow on the 486 a game that had Dungeons and Dragons races and classes (elves, humans, halflings, mages, rogues) but was more of a Sim-city/Dungeon Keeper lite wannabe than RPG; you had to build groves for elves, casinos and bars for rogues, etc. as well as housing, food storage and training facilities.

Anyone recall what it was?

I think it was called Stronghold, which is gonna make searching for it hard as there's now a whole unrelated series of stronghold games.


Stronghold?
 
2014-04-11 05:30:14 PM

Burr: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: 1999? How about a Starsiege remake?

/second-best mech game of all time

Best mech game of all time:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 395x425]


Damn straight.
 
2014-04-11 05:50:24 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Burr: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: 1999? How about a Starsiege remake?

/second-best mech game of all time

Best mech game of all time:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 395x425]

Damn straight.


Word
 
2014-04-11 05:53:15 PM

Teufelaffe: Prime: Practical_Draconian: Friend of mine let me borrow on the 486 a game that had Dungeons and Dragons races and classes (elves, humans, halflings, mages, rogues) but was more of a Sim-city/Dungeon Keeper lite wannabe than RPG; you had to build groves for elves, casinos and bars for rogues, etc. as well as housing, food storage and training facilities.

Anyone recall what it was?

I think it was called Stronghold, which is gonna make searching for it hard as there's now a whole unrelated series of stronghold games.

Stronghold?


That be it, and yep, Gog.com has the other franchise called Stronghold :(.
 
2014-04-11 05:58:10 PM
The kickstarter that interested me but failed: someone was promising to make a modern Interstate 76 (though mix it with World of Tanks ... hm), and that fell through.

Interstate 76 -- TIE Fighter/Xwing in a car with machine guns, and automobile models of the 60s and 70s
 
2014-04-11 08:00:02 PM

Practical_Draconian: Teufelaffe: Prime: Practical_Draconian: Friend of mine let me borrow on the 486 a game that had Dungeons and Dragons races and classes (elves, humans, halflings, mages, rogues) but was more of a Sim-city/Dungeon Keeper lite wannabe than RPG; you had to build groves for elves, casinos and bars for rogues, etc. as well as housing, food storage and training facilities.

Anyone recall what it was?

I think it was called Stronghold, which is gonna make searching for it hard as there's now a whole unrelated series of stronghold games.

Stronghold?

That be it, and yep, Gog.com has the other franchise called Stronghold :(.


Damn, son, I thought you were talking about Majesty.
 
2014-04-11 09:22:09 PM
Here's another obscure old game screwed over by a new, unrelated game using the same name:

Moebius: The Windwalker -- sequel to the Asian/New Age themed Moebius: The Orb of Celestial Harmony game, in which 1980s Apple II players could do Kung Fu meets Ultima/Wizardry and whatnot. The graphics at the time kinda impressed me when I was a kid looking at computer gaming magazines at the time, plus rolling a monk in WoW and Shadowrun Returns made me think of that old title. And it was an Origin title, and they made some pretty memorable games back in the day.

1.bp.blogspot.com


www.pixsoriginadventures.co.uk

Now there's an unrelated, modern-days detective game named Moebius coming out on Steam. Hmph.
 
2014-04-11 09:33:14 PM
This isn't entirely related, but a while back someone posted a link in a thread to a website that would let you play NES games as players from different NES games. Anyone have a link to that? I couldn't find it for the life of me.
 
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