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(Slate)   A football movie starring Kevin Costner and directed by Ivan Reitman sucks. Obvious tag is...well...obvlous   (slate.com) divider line 56
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2014-04-10 07:09:21 PM
RIP, Ivan Reitman.
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2014-04-10 07:13:24 PM
The first time I saw the preview I thought it was a joke.
 
2014-04-10 07:45:30 PM
Even the previews looks boring as f*ck.
 
2014-04-10 07:54:04 PM
Wait, wait, wait... Costner's sports-based movies are good. "Field of Dreams," "Tin Cup," "Bull Durham."

I'm in the minority on this one, but I even think "For Love of the Game" is pretty good.

Does this one suck because he's an executive instead of an aging athlete (or destitute farmer)?
 
2014-04-10 08:01:41 PM

BKITU: Wait, wait, wait... Costner's sports-based movies are good. "Field of Dreams," "Tin Cup," "Bull Durham."

I'm in the minority on this one, but I even think "For Love of the Game" is pretty good.

Does this one suck because he's an executive instead of an aging athlete (or destitute farmer)?


Came to say this. He's made some stinkers, but his sports movies and movies where he plays a villain have been consistently good. It may still stink, but I would at least check it out.

/Any Given Sunday was *terrible*
//it had to be said
 
2014-04-10 08:14:53 PM

BKITU: Wait, wait, wait... Costner's sports-based movies are good. "Field of Dreams," "Tin Cup," "Bull Durham."


Two of those three were written by Ron Shelton, who has a knack for writing snappy sports comedies. (See also "White Men Can't Jump")

This one was written by a guy with no prior writing credits and a guy whose biggest credits are 2 episodes of "Nurse Jackie."
 
2014-04-10 08:25:50 PM
The thing about NFL executives is how acutely aware they are of the unimportance of their jobs.
 
2014-04-10 08:29:43 PM
Obvious tag is...well...obvlous

So is that spelling subby
 
2014-04-10 08:38:54 PM
The release of Draft Day pretty much matches up to this timeline:

* Moneyball earns big box office and awards and home sales
* Studio says "we need another Moneyball"
* Writing, shooting, editing
* Release
 
2014-04-10 09:22:28 PM
A movie with Kevin Costner that sucks?  INCONCEIVABLE!

His career sure has tanked.
 
2014-04-10 09:40:07 PM
Meh...it's just the Detroit fans that can't deal with reality...
 
2014-04-10 09:46:08 PM
FTFA: The NFL is in an awkward place right now, the most popular kid in school whom everyone's starting to hate, and the kid knows it.

Wait ... everyone hates the NFL?
 
2014-04-10 09:56:57 PM

HawgWild: FTFA: The NFL is in an awkward place right now, the most popular kid in school whom everyone's starting to hate, and the kid knows it.

Wait ... everyone hates the NFL?


We all talked and voted while you were pinching a loaf and, well... Yes.
 
2014-04-10 10:04:35 PM

brap: HawgWild: FTFA: The NFL is in an awkward place right now, the most popular kid in school whom everyone's starting to hate, and the kid knows it.

Wait ... everyone hates the NFL?

We all talked and voted while you were pinching a loaf and, well... Yes.


Dammit! What am I supposed to do on Sundays now? Go to church?

BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...

*sigh*

Ah, it's fun to laugh.
 
2014-04-10 10:24:38 PM
My only complaint about Super Bowl XLVIII:

They shoved that movie down our throats during the pre-game shows.

/#Firstworldproblems.
 
2014-04-10 10:26:49 PM
It's about the Browns, right?

Dunno why anyone is surprised.
 
2014-04-10 10:41:37 PM
So, not only do Cleveland sports teams suck, but movies about their teams suck.

And they have that unfortunate baseball team logo.
 
2014-04-10 10:54:21 PM

IamKaiserSoze!!!: So, not only do Cleveland sports teams suck, but movies about their teams suck.



Whoa.....back that train up....the first Major League movie was awesome.
 
2014-04-10 11:31:45 PM
It's sitting at 50% on RT with 60 reviews, so it's probably not awful.  Roeper gave it a B and I trust him more than any other critic, so I'll probably see it.
 
2014-04-10 11:50:48 PM

BKITU: Wait, wait, wait... Costner's sports-based movies are good. "Field of Dreams," "Tin Cup," "Bull Durham."

I'm in the minority on this one, but I even think "For Love of the Game" is pretty good.

Does this one suck because he's an executive instead of an aging athlete (or destitute farmer)?


Maybe Costner's talent for golf and baseball movies just doesn't translate to football?
 
2014-04-10 11:50:56 PM

Triumph: The thing about NFL executives is how acutely aware they are of the unimportance of their jobs.


What a strangely vague and meaningless critique.

They're aware how unimportant their jobs are? And? Is it better to not be aware of how unimportant your job (and in fact entire life) is and criticize people for being aware of their unimportance on the Internet?
 
2014-04-10 11:57:24 PM
Why is this not in the sports tab?
 
2014-04-11 12:09:24 AM
Most reviews I've seen have been generally positive. Not that I'll watch it.
 
2014-04-11 12:30:02 AM
Pokey.Clyde Meh...it's just the Detroit fans that can't deal with reality...

he's a Cleveland Brown exec, he played Detroit Tigers in "The Upside of Anger"(London doubling for Bloomfield Hills?) & "For Love Of The Game".  fyi Detroit fans deal with reality far better than most...
 
2014-04-11 12:38:01 AM
It's got a 50% on Rotten Tomatoes which gives it a Rotten but it's not terrible (God's not Dead is 18%).  I might catch it on instant whenever it shows up on Netflix.
 
2014-04-11 12:46:54 AM
I hate sports, but love sports movies (except Any Given Sunday... that movie farking sucked). This kind of gives me a sad :(
 
2014-04-11 01:12:55 AM
Right up until this very moment, I thought that this was simply marketing about the real upcoming NFL draft.  You know, get a bunch of celebreties to fake up a fake movie trailer, and then have them provide interest during the real draft coverage.

No way I thought anyone would be dumb enough to actually make a movie about it.

/ Fire Goodell
 
2014-04-11 01:33:55 AM

Mr. Pokeylope: I hate sports, but love sports movies (except Any Given Sunday... that movie farking sucked). This kind of gives me a sad :(


I agree except for the Pacino speech for the primal game. Only worthwhile scene in the entire film.

Costner sports films are usually pretty solid, even For Love of the Game. This one, however, just looks like some cliche ridden NFL marketing ploy.
 
2014-04-11 01:48:51 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: It's about the Browns, right?

Dunno why anyone is surprised.


Agreed.  I predict it'll do as the Browns do and tank in the standings.
 
2014-04-11 02:01:27 AM

Semper IvXx: Triumph: The thing about NFL executives is how acutely aware they are of the unimportance of their jobs.

What a strangely vague and meaningless critique.

They're aware how unimportant their jobs are? And? Is it better to not be aware of how unimportant your job (and in fact entire life) is and criticize people for being aware of their unimportance on the Internet?


I was being sarcastic. They have fun jobs, but often stress out because many of them live 24/7 in the ESPN/sports radio echo chamber that makes it all seem like the most important thing on Earth. It's a wildly distorted universe. The NFL causes egos to go in crazy directions sometimes. There ARE some very grounded people, like Dick Cass, working in the NFL, but it's a difficult environment to maintain a humble and wise existence. And even worse for the executives - they have to motivate the players and coaches into truly believing winning the Super Bowl is the most important thing on Earth, while themselves understanding it's just a show. If they don't understand that, things will go off the rails, and they often do. In college football, the scenario may be even worse. That's how Penn State wound up covering up for a child rapist.
 
2014-04-11 03:36:21 AM
I want the movie to do well, but i LOVE a good critical article that is funny without being snarky.... Its a fun line.
 
2014-04-11 05:10:32 AM
So, the synopsis is that Costner hatches a scheme to turn the Cleveland Browns into contenders? The Hobbit has a more believable premise.
 
2014-04-11 06:29:42 AM
 I'm going to see it tomorrow, even though I know nothing about football.

 I'm seeing Oculous today.

 I refuse to see Rio 2. I told the boss he'll have to get someone else to endure that one.
 
2014-04-11 07:22:54 AM
I bet there is no way out of this.
 
2014-04-11 07:38:14 AM
The NFL puts out it's own stupid love note to itself. Big surprise.

If you have not seen it, watch the Frontline special on CTE; "League of Denial." I stopped watching football after seeing it.
 
2014-04-11 07:41:47 AM
Wait, any given Sunday is a bad movie now?  Not one of Stone's better movies but it is enjoyable and the last time Pacino put any effort into a role.
 
2014-04-11 07:44:27 AM
Chekhov's gun? What the hell does that mean?
 
2014-04-11 07:54:51 AM

stuhayes2010: Chekhov's gun? What the hell does that mean?



It means we're going to meet his dad.
 
2014-04-11 08:00:22 AM

stuhayes2010: Chekhov's gun? What the hell does that mean?


An item introduced in the first act should be used by the third.  Chekhov was big into minimalism in his plays. Movies don't quite work the same way, but I think the author's point was that the writing was quite predictable.
 
2014-04-11 08:02:36 AM
If they would have made the movie based on either a fictional expansion NFL franchise, or any other team then the Freakin Browns people would have bough into it.

I am all about suspending logical thought to enjoy a movie, but did any think that the browns didn't still suck at the end?
 
2014-04-11 08:23:25 AM

phlegmmo: A movie with Kevin Costner that sucks?  INCONCEIVABLE!

His career sure has tanked.


Give him some credit. His best role ever was in "The Big Chill."
 
2014-04-11 08:24:36 AM
Slate reviewing a football movie is like me reviewing a ballet performance.
 
2014-04-11 09:10:44 AM

BKITU: I'm in the minority on this one, but I even think "For Love of the Game" is pretty good.


I liked it too. Its a nice "real time" style baseball flick.
 
2014-04-11 09:25:05 AM

stuhayes2010: Chekhov's gun? What the hell does that mean?


Don't ask JJ or Lindelof becauset they sure don't know.
 
2014-04-11 09:33:30 AM

mjbok: stuhayes2010: Chekhov's gun? What the hell does that mean?

Don't ask JJ or Lindelof becauset they sure don't know.


its a goddamned phaser. I thought everyone knew that?

/i keed
//also think the concept is BS
 
2014-04-11 09:45:59 AM

Geoff Peterson: mjbok: stuhayes2010: Chekhov's gun? What the hell does that mean?

Don't ask JJ or Lindelof becauset they sure don't know.

its a goddamned phaser. I thought everyone knew that?

/i keed
//also think the concept is BS


It's not BS if the phrase is the concept is being used correctly. It doesn't really refer to just any object introduced in act 1, it refers to an object that attention is called to and that doesn't have a natural reason for being there. So, if you're in a police station and you see a gun on someone's hip, it doesn't mean anything, but if you're in the office of a car salesman and the camera focuses on a gun that's sitting on the edge of the desk, that gun needs to come into play at some point.
 
2014-04-11 11:26:34 AM
My brother in law brought up at family dinner that this movie looked awesome.  I choked on my water and coughed for about 2 minutes.

Kevin Costner is a terrible actor, in everything.  I consider any movie he was in that did well a credit to everyone else for overcoming the suckitude of Kevin Costner.
 
2014-04-11 11:42:12 AM

RantCasey: Kevin Costner is a terrible actor, in everything.


Come on, that's just ridiculous.
 
2014-04-11 12:23:08 PM
Waterworld wasn't really all that bad. It employed some weak logic at times, but overall it was pretty

The Postman was actually a pretty entertaining story. A bit steeped in its morality play, but one of the more plausible depictions of a rebuilt society I've seen.

Neither of these films deserved anywhere near the amount of scorn heaped upon them.

That said, you couldn't pay me to watch this turd.
 
2014-04-11 02:35:46 PM

RantCasey: My brother in law brought up at family dinner that this movie looked awesome.  I choked on my water and coughed for about 2 minutes.

Kevin Costner is a terrible actor, in everything.  I consider any movie he was in that did well a credit to everyone else for overcoming the suckitude of Kevin Costner.


No offense intended, but you sound like a pretentious douche. :)
 
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