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(NYPost)   TSA finally starts protecting us from the real enemy: wheelchair-bound mute stroke victims   (nypost.com) divider line 59
    More: Asinine, TSA, Nico Melendez, Los Angeles International Airport  
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2014-04-10 06:38:46 PM  
Why would we hire idiots and expect them to act like anything but?
 
2014-04-10 06:49:10 PM  
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2014-04-10 07:25:51 PM  
"I think it could have been handled differently by the TSA and it probably could have been handled differently by the family, and hopefully moving forward the family won't have this problem again, because they know about the programs that we have in place," Melendez said.

WOW.
 
2014-04-10 07:47:50 PM  

Ivo Shandor: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x282]


c3.likes-media.com
 
2014-04-10 07:49:39 PM  
Disband that band of thugs and put them back on welfare.
 
2014-04-10 07:50:05 PM  

Lsherm: "I think it could have been handled differently by the TSA and it probably could have been handled differently by the family, and hopefully moving forward the family won't have this problem again, because they know about the programs that we have in place," Melendez said.

WOW.


Stay classy TSA - you're only slightly ahead of the IRS and I expect you to put the hammer down and take the most hated federal agency award again this year!
 
2014-04-10 07:53:32 PM  
To be fair to the TSA she clearly refused to pick up that can

img.fark.net
 
2014-04-10 07:53:52 PM  
You note that TSA didn't even deny the incident took place JUST AS THE FAMILY DESCRIBED. They tacitly acknowledge that yes, they did in fact refuse a mute disabled woman through the security gate because she couldn't speak her name and her DL was expired--but that's how it goes because they have "programs in place", one of which, apparently, is requiring mute stroke victims to either speak their names or take a bus.

Even the LAPD isn't that blatant about their complete disregard for people. At least they try to pretend  there were errors made in the way things were done.
 
2014-04-10 07:54:06 PM  
Hey, I wouldn't underestimate him.
www.parabolicarc.com
 
2014-04-10 07:58:00 PM  

Lsherm: "I think it could have been handled differently by the TSA and it probably could have been handled differently by the family, and hopefully moving forward the family won't have this problem again, because they know about the programs that we have in place," Melendez said.

WOW.


They'd make good forum trolls. "Ok, so I was wrong, but only because you made me be."
 
2014-04-10 07:58:09 PM  

youmightberight: Stay classy TSA - you're only slightly ahead of the IRS


Actually, compared to the TSA, the IRS comes off as a friendly, professional and efficient bunch.
 
2014-04-10 07:58:12 PM  
They freed the shiat out of her
 
2014-04-10 08:00:25 PM  
The TSA and the security booths are the ugliest and most horrible place in the US.

If you want to know what an oppressive regime feels like, extrapolate the environment in the TSA booths to the entire country.
 
2014-04-10 08:03:12 PM  
The tsa is a giant waste, but if old, disabled, or young people all get to officially skip security checks then what little security they offer goes down to zero.

Of course imo it is mostly theater anyways.

/reads tfa

OK well, that is pretty goddamned farked up.

Is there no supervisor who would oversee this decision? I understand the folks on the line having some bad eggs, but good grief.

Even the pr guy screwed the pooch, 'ya we done goofed, but hopefully the family learned their lesson'.
 
2014-04-10 08:03:23 PM  
"It could have been handled better by the Family"

Is the TSA management team on crack?
 
2014-04-10 08:05:58 PM  

mr0x: The TSA and the security booths are the ugliest and most horrible place in the US.

If you want to know what an oppressive regime feels like, extrapolate the environment in the TSA booths to the entire country.


Let's not overdo it and taint the valid complaints eh?

Oppressive regime travel restrictions don't let you grab a bus after you fail papers please.
 
2014-04-10 08:09:30 PM  

youmightberight: Lsherm: "I think it could have been handled differently by the TSA and it probably could have been handled differently by the family, and hopefully moving forward the family won't have this problem again, because they know about the programs that we have in place," Melendez said.

WOW.

Stay classy TSA - you're only slightly ahead of the IRS and I expect you to put the hammer down and take the most hated federal agency award again this year!


I can't speak for others because I haven't dealt much with the Irs outside of tax forms, but at least the IRS performs a useful and necessary function.
 
2014-04-10 08:10:08 PM  

MBrady: TSA spokesperson Nico Melendez told ABC7 that it regrets the incident.

They "regret" the incident?!?!

How about proving that you regret ALL these incidents, and start FIRING people, arseholes!


They "regret" that the family farked up. Stupid family, not handling it better. Maybe next time they'll know about the "programs" that the TFA didn't think to tell them about.
 
2014-04-10 08:11:15 PM  

darthgarlic: "It could have been handled better by the Family"

Is the TSA management team on crack?


The gov doesn't hire a special guy for the press comments. I believe in customs they just take memos from the agents and give one the job (no extra pay even). Recently one was asked 'is it policy to hide your nametags from the public' and answered it with 'i would have to see the specifics of the incident in question'.

NO YOU DON'T. THE UNIFORM POLICY IS YOU WEAR THE NAMEPLATE. Easiest question ever.
 
2014-04-10 08:12:29 PM  
The one, quiet, no-cell-phone-using passenger that I would gladly sit beside and the TSA blocks them from flying.
 
2014-04-10 08:32:53 PM  
Still no TSA Tag?
 
2014-04-10 08:38:49 PM  
Came here to say that I'm sick of every authority figure using the phrase "moving forward" (or "going forward")
 
2014-04-10 08:41:18 PM  
The TSA busted two of my suitcases last week between Oahu and Hawaii. They were unlocked, as the signs indicate is required, and they definitely landed in Oahu unbroken (they were still fine when we rechecked them in Honolulu). But when the rolled out the luggage gate at Kona, they were busted up with TSA tape around them and a TSA apology letter inside.

farking assholes.
 
2014-04-10 08:42:31 PM  

itsaidwhat: The one, quiet, no-cell-phone-using passenger that I would gladly sit beside and the TSA blocks them from flying.


Hey, look on the bright side. Open seat next to you.
 
2014-04-10 08:43:30 PM  
namegoeshere: ..They "regret" that the family farked up. Stupid family, not handling it better. Maybe next time they'll know about the "programs" that the TFA didn't think to tell them about.

Like with all bureaucratic rules, there can be no exceptions for exceptions we didn't think of.  "It says you have to stand up, dance and sing God Bless America.  Do that!"
 
2014-04-10 08:44:45 PM  

darthgarlic: "It could have been handled better by the Family"

Is the TSA management team on crack?


"THERE"S NO CRYING IN PAT DOWNS!"
 
2014-04-10 08:50:04 PM  

youmightberight: Stay classy TSA - you're only slightly ahead of the IRS and I expect you to put the hammer down and take the most hated federal agency award again this year!


You've got that horribly backwards. IRS employees are professionals.  The TSA is slightly ahead of the SF Department of Parking and Traffic. Slightly ahead of the Santa Cruz Country Planning Department.

A complaint about (many) private security guards is that they are the kind of people that regular law enforcement agencies won't hire, for good reason. All TSA employees are the ones that private security agencies won't hire.
 
2014-04-10 09:05:02 PM  
Total
Spineless
Assholes
 
2014-04-10 09:09:37 PM  
Her name isn't Timmy is it????
 
2014-04-10 09:19:16 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: itsaidwhat: The one, quiet, no-cell-phone-using passenger that I would gladly sit beside and the TSA blocks them from flying.

Hey, look on the bright side. Open seat next to you.


If only...
 
2014-04-10 09:25:14 PM  
Lois Lerner might have put one over on Congress, but she couldn't fool the TSA!
 
2014-04-10 09:33:34 PM  

Lsherm: "I think it could have been handled differently by the TSA and it probably could have been handled differently by the family, and hopefully moving forward the family won't have this problem again, because they know about the programs that we have in place," Melendez said.

WOW.


I thought wow too. Showing her ID and other papers...ummm, I'd say the family handled it properly.
Just take the damn blame like you should have Mister TSA spokes person. Idiot!
 
2014-04-10 09:37:46 PM  
This is what happens when you give authority to people who should be bagging groceries.
 
2014-04-10 10:19:51 PM  
"I think it could have been handled differently by the TSA and it probably could have been handled differently by the family, and hopefully moving forward the family won't have this problem again, because they know about the programs that we have in place," Melendez said.

Wait, I've got something for this.... the fark did I leave that...

Ah, here.  Get a lot of mileage from this one.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-04-10 10:31:32 PM  
Well, maybe someone stuffed and IED up that mute woman's behind and was going to go all kapow on everyone. She's lucky she didn't get a free enema.

And after all it's her word against ours, you know how that is.
 
2014-04-10 10:45:54 PM  
Wow, all the hate. I guess everyone has forgotten what happened on 9/11. So sad.
 
2014-04-10 10:49:40 PM  

poodebunker: Lsherm: "I think it could have been handled differently by the TSA and it probably could have been handled differently by the family, and hopefully moving forward the family won't have this problem again, because they know about the programs that we have in place," Melendez said.

WOW.

I thought wow too. Showing her ID and other papers...ummm, I'd say the family handled it properly.
Just take the damn blame like you should have Mister TSA spokes person. Idiot!


Actually, she didn't have a government issued photo ID.  An expired license isn't valid ID to cash a check at Vons let alone pass through a TSA checkpoint. DMV Paperwork means shiat and I'm sure they TSA agent was exactly as friendly as you would imagine when he pointed that out.

The TSA are assholes. Doesn't mean they are wrong here.  You can basically hear the the spokesman try to come up with a way to politely call the woman's family idiots.
 
2014-04-10 11:00:10 PM  

scandalrag: Actually, she didn't have a government issued photo ID.


Which might be important information if it weren't for the fact that they have an alternate mechanism for verifying ID for precisely these situations, but they do, so it isn't.
 
2014-04-10 11:09:21 PM  
More IRS love: [calculations and stuff] ... and they sent me back a dollar because I overestimated my adjustment while attempting to pro-rate their penalty.

To the TSA: If you get the opportunity, you should kill yourself.
 
2014-04-10 11:31:18 PM  
planetivy.com
 
2014-04-10 11:38:59 PM  

China White Tea: scandalrag: Actually, she didn't have a government issued photo ID.

Which might be important information if it weren't for the fact that they have an alternate mechanism for verifying ID for precisely these situations, but they do, so it isn't.


Yeah, they say they will use publicly available databases.  Anyone requiring alternative ID must pass through "additional screening".  When this woman's family called, they got the TSACares special assistance speech not the if you don't have one of the 15 listed forms of ID you aren't getting on the plane speech.  When they got to the airport, the woman didn't have ID and couldn't answer the questions for the database so they denied her boarding just like the TSA says they will. http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/acceptable-ids Should they have been nicer when they asked the identifying questions?  They always should be nicer. But the fact she couldn't speak basically denies the woman any chance at using the alternative databases because.  I repeat, the TSA are assholes, but they're predictable assholes and you aren't getting on the plane unless you do exactly what they ask.

/It's security theater so if you screw up your lines, they're going to kick you off stage.
 
2014-04-10 11:46:56 PM  

scandalrag: ctually, she didn't have a government issued photo ID. An expired license isn't valid ID to cash a check at Vons let alone pass through a TSA checkpoint. DMV Paperwork means shiat and I'm sure they TSA agent was exactly as friendly as you would imagine when he pointed that out.


See you've drank the cool aid. If the TSA were serious, it wouldn't matter who the fark you are, just you don't have a hand gun or a scary knife when you get get on the plane. And certainly, an elderly stoke victim in a wheel chair?

Deal is, the TSA is staffed by people that are unsuitable for other work.  Seriously we should fire the whole lot of them and hire back all the Filipino immigrants we used to have manning security checkpoints.
 
2014-04-11 12:14:40 AM  

gibbon1: scandalrag: ctually, she didn't have a government issued photo ID. An expired license isn't valid ID to cash a check at Vons let alone pass through a TSA checkpoint. DMV Paperwork means shiat and I'm sure they TSA agent was exactly as friendly as you would imagine when he pointed that out.

See you've drank the cool aid. If the TSA were serious, it wouldn't matter who the fark you are, just you don't have a hand gun or a scary knife when you get get on the plane. And certainly, an elderly stoke victim in a wheel chair?

Deal is, the TSA is staffed by people that are unsuitable for other work.  Seriously we should fire the whole lot of them and hire back all the Filipino immigrants we used to have manning security checkpoints.


You're the one who doesn't get it.  The TSA tells you exactly what they are going to do and they aren't allowed to deviate. Their hiring practices mean nothing. Anyone who really wants to get past them knows exactly what to do to get past them without being caught because the TSA procedures are known ahead of time.  You could put Seal Team 6 at the checkpoint and anyone with the right training will breeze through if they follow the published manual without any deviation.  The way to stop attacks is with information gathering not ritualized searches.

That doesn't change the fact that you do in fact have to do exactly what they say or they won't let you on the plane.  You can't complain when the TSA does exactly what they say they will do. This story isn't about their worthlessness, it's about them following their procedures. The only valid complaint these people have is that the TSA are assholes, which frankly, everyone already knew.
 
2014-04-11 12:24:41 AM  

scandalrag: gibbon1: scandalrag: ctually, she didn't have a government issued photo ID. An expired license isn't valid ID to cash a check at Vons let alone pass through a TSA checkpoint. DMV Paperwork means shiat and I'm sure they TSA agent was exactly as friendly as you would imagine when he pointed that out.

See you've drank the cool aid. If the TSA were serious, it wouldn't matter who the fark you are, just you don't have a hand gun or a scary knife when you get get on the plane. And certainly, an elderly stoke victim in a wheel chair?

Deal is, the TSA is staffed by people that are unsuitable for other work.  Seriously we should fire the whole lot of them and hire back all the Filipino immigrants we used to have manning security checkpoints.

You're the one who doesn't get it.  The TSA tells you exactly what they are going to do and they aren't allowed to deviate. Their hiring practices mean nothing. Anyone who really wants to get past them knows exactly what to do to get past them without being caught because the TSA procedures are known ahead of time.  You could put Seal Team 6 at the checkpoint and anyone with the right training will breeze through if they follow the published manual without any deviation.  The way to stop attacks is with information gathering not ritualized searches.

That doesn't change the fact that you do in fact have to do exactly what they say or they won't let you on the plane.  You can't complain when the TSA does exactly what they say they will do. This story isn't about their worthlessness, it's about them following their procedures. The only valid complaint these people have is that the TSA are assholes, which frankly, everyone already knew.


The TSA farked up and admitted it. You don't need to white Knight them. If you have government ID, even expired, along with other identifying documentation theu are supposed to let you on. The fact they worked hard not to let her on, on top of being dicks, says a lot. They are supposed to help accommodate the disabled. They did not and are probably liable to an ADA claim
 
2014-04-11 12:36:41 AM  
I flew from Baltimore to Cleveland in February with an expired license and they didn't make me say my name.
 
2014-04-11 12:38:47 AM  

djwebb1127: I flew from Baltimore to Cleveland in February with an expired license and they didn't make me say my name.


Because that's what you're supposed to be able to do
 
2014-04-11 12:46:29 AM  
One time after a particularly rough time in mexico...my id papers were stolen, my feet ankles were messed up from a daring, stair jumping escape. I drove over the border with a druglord - who told the border people whom he was familiar with that i was 'cool'. I ended up in a wheelchair because foot problems. Missed a flight because extra tsa scrutiny when wheelchair bound. Had i known, i would've crawled through.
 
2014-04-11 12:46:49 AM  

gibbon1: scandalrag: ctually, she didn't have a government issued photo ID. An expired license isn't valid ID to cash a check at Vons let alone pass through a TSA checkpoint. DMV Paperwork means shiat and I'm sure they TSA agent was exactly as friendly as you would imagine when he pointed that out.

See you've drank the cool aid. If the TSA were serious, it wouldn't matter who the fark you are, just you don't have a hand gun or a scary knife when you get get on the plane. And certainly, an elderly stoke victim in a wheel chair?

Deal is, the TSA is staffed by people that are unsuitable for other work.  Seriously we should fire the whole lot of them and hire back all the Filipino immigrants we used to have manning security checkpoints.


I dislike the organization, but never got the blanket attacks on all the employees.

People take the jobs they can, and the tsa is heavy on veterans as well.

How pitiful must your life be to have to attack thousands of people on a personal basis like that?
 
2014-04-11 12:48:18 AM  
Did she at least have a guitar case to lean on?

eil.com
 
2014-04-11 01:10:19 AM  

Smackledorfer: gibbon1: scandalrag: ctually, she didn't have a government issued photo ID. An expired license isn't valid ID to cash a check at Vons let alone pass through a TSA checkpoint. DMV Paperwork means shiat and I'm sure they TSA agent was exactly as friendly as you would imagine when he pointed that out.

See you've drank the cool aid. If the TSA were serious, it wouldn't matter who the fark you are, just you don't have a hand gun or a scary knife when you get get on the plane. And certainly, an elderly stoke victim in a wheel chair?

Deal is, the TSA is staffed by people that are unsuitable for other work.  Seriously we should fire the whole lot of them and hire back all the Filipino immigrants we used to have manning security checkpoints.

I dislike the organization, but never got the blanket attacks on all the employees.

People take the jobs they can, and the tsa is heavy on veterans as well.

How pitiful must your life be to have to attack thousands of people on a personal basis like that?


I think the point is more that I'd rather my tax money pay for them to be on welfare then for them to actively undermine my freedoms like they do.
 
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