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(Boston Globe)   Sometimes, you just gotta park next to that hydrant to make it to the gym in 26 minutes. And, sometimes, karma happens   (bostonglobe.com) divider line 124
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2014-04-10 05:19:56 PM
Hah, Backdraft comes to life!
 
2014-04-10 05:37:01 PM
Karma is a bank for your next incarnation, subby. This is just beautiful poetic justice.
 
2014-04-10 05:43:04 PM
I bet they just love doing that.
 
2014-04-10 05:43:21 PM
Of course it was a BMW. German-made vehicles scream "A farking prick drives this car."

/Including Volkswagen, but to a lesser degree
 
2014-04-10 05:43:43 PM
I've always wanted to see a firetruck just push a car or of the way.

Then when Captain dickbag tries to give the bill to the city, they just hand him a ticket back with a nice "FOAD"
 
2014-04-10 05:44:03 PM

muwaryer: I bet they just love doing that.


I know I would.
 
2014-04-10 05:45:11 PM
Firefighters knowingly risk their lives every day to save people they don't even know. These ones also trashed a BMW. Why no hero tag?
 
2014-04-10 05:45:14 PM
"There is really nothing funny about it," he added.

I'm going to have to disagree with that statement.
 
2014-04-10 05:45:23 PM
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2014-04-10 05:45:24 PM
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muwaryer: I bet they just love doing that.


They do. My roommate right after high school was a fire fighter. He said the best part of his job was busting the windows out of every car parked anywhere near a hydrant, when they had a blaze to battle.
 
2014-04-10 05:45:38 PM
Good, we needed an updated model:
www.cleanmpg.com
 
2014-04-10 05:46:19 PM
Please let it be a BMW, oh pleeeze...


*clicks*


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YES!!!!

 
2014-04-10 05:46:42 PM
Another angle, looks like they beat the shiat out of the sidepanel attaching the hose. 

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But i can see why they needed to move the car back.


MacDonald said firefighters don't go out of their way to damage property as they were forced to do by the driver of the BMW.


Not that they dont enjoy it, but thats totally their right.
 
2014-04-10 05:47:52 PM
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2014-04-10 05:48:03 PM
You know, the only problem with this is that the hydrant is lower than the windows.  If it were higher, then you could also get water from the hydrant connection to run down into the car, destroy the interior, and really do it up right.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-10 05:48:23 PM
Thingster

Broken glass is normally a zero-deductible insurance claim.
 
2014-04-10 05:48:41 PM

timujin: Hah, Backdraft comes to life!


Hardly. Firefighters have been doing this as long as douchebags have been parking in front of hydrants.
 
2014-04-10 05:49:25 PM

GarbageDay: Of course it was a BMW. German-made vehicles scream "A farking prick drives this car."

/Including Volkswagen, but to a lesser degree


What's the difference between a BMW and a porcupine?

A porcupine has all the pricks on the outside.
 
2014-04-10 05:49:38 PM
"....but with a porcupine, the pricks are on the OUTside..."
 
2014-04-10 05:50:24 PM

Maud Dib: Please let it be a BMW, oh pleeeze...
*clicks*
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YES!!!!


I also called it before the click. Even said it would be a coupe.

/Excuse me, I'm going to go buy a lottery ticket
 
2014-04-10 05:50:32 PM
Well done, fellows!
 
2014-04-10 05:50:48 PM

unyon: You know, the only problem with this is that the hydrant is lower than the windows.  If it were higher, then you could also get water from the hydrant connection to run down into the car, destroy the interior, and really do it up right.


I like the cut of your jib.
 
2014-04-10 05:51:57 PM
Wonder if this is the other car from the instant karma truck driver a couple of weeks back?
 
2014-04-10 05:52:14 PM

timujin: Hah, Backdraft comes to life!


This.

muwaryer: I bet they just love doing that.


And also this.
 
2014-04-10 05:52:56 PM

Shadow Blasko: Karma is a bank for your next incarnation, subby. This is just beautiful poetic justice.


This. Karma as most people use it is very unreliable.
 
2014-04-10 05:53:54 PM
I am amazed they only got a $100 ticket.  I expected a much larger fine and possible towing if the owner was not present.
 
2014-04-10 05:53:54 PM
I kinda feel sorry for the lady that owns the BM'er, i bet she's cute & successful.


/no I don't
 
2014-04-10 05:54:09 PM

Thingster: I've always wanted to see a firetruck just push a car or of the way.

Then when Captain dickbag tries to give the bill to the city, they just hand him a ticket back with a nice "FOAD"


I believe it was during a defensive driving course that I was told that firefighters have the choice to push the vehicle out of the way with their truck, or bust out the windows, and since firefighters take pride in the appearance of their truck, they likely wouldn't want to scuff the bumper that way.  And besides, I'm sure it's fun to bust out the windows like that.  And sometimes those hoses do leak a bit.
 
2014-04-10 05:54:41 PM
only $100 ticket?  it ought to be more.  LOTS more.

/i'm not a fireman, but Dad was.
 
2014-04-10 05:54:44 PM

Captain Horatio Mindblower: Firefighters knowingly risk their lives every day to save people they don't even know. These ones also trashed a BMW. Why no hero tag?


Subby's BMW?
 
2014-04-10 05:55:53 PM
Not to be "That Guy" or anything but, if they had to pick the car up to move it, why didn't they move it out of the way in the first place?

I guess I don't understand their manly ways...
 
2014-04-10 05:56:18 PM

ZAZ: Thingster

Broken glass is normally a zero-deductible insurance claim.


Push it out of the way. With the bumper. That sits over car bumper height. At about 10 mph. That kind of "push it out of the way".
 
2014-04-10 05:58:51 PM

tinyarena: Not to be "That Guy" or anything but, if they had to pick the car up to move it, why didn't they move it out of the way in the first place?

I guess I don't understand their manly ways...


They moved it a short distance.  Moving it a greater distance to completely clear the hydrant would have required more time and energy, and could have lead to someone injuring themselves, all while they should have been fighting the fire.
 
2014-04-10 05:59:12 PM

Valeriyance: I am amazed they only got a $100 ticket.  I expected a much larger fine and possible towing if the owner was not present.


I think it would be more poetic if the fine were $1.
 
2014-04-10 05:59:39 PM
Wanted for questioning:
www.thefancarpet.com

Questions include "Can I buy you a drink?" and "How awesome did that feel?"
 
2014-04-10 06:00:05 PM

tinyarena: Not to be "That Guy" or anything but, if they had to pick the car up to move it, why didn't they move it out of the way in the first place?

I guess I don't understand their manly ways...


I guess seconds count when putting out a fire/saving lives.  I'm sure if you were in the building you would want the help asap.
 
2014-04-10 06:01:12 PM

Shadow Blasko: Karma is a bank for your next incarnation, subby. This is just beautiful poetic justice.


Depends on which version of karma you're talking about, it's not like there's only one religion which espouses the idea.  Karma under Hinduism can affect you in this life, for instance.
 
2014-04-10 06:01:49 PM
Smashing the windows is so unnecessary.....when they have those hydraulic jaws that can pry the doors open.
 
2014-04-10 06:03:06 PM
I bet the hose was damaged by feeding it through the car windows. They really need to bill the BMW owner for a new hose.

Why can't they publish the name of the BMW owner?
 
2014-04-10 06:03:11 PM
It was only a 328. An M3 or 335 owner would not have taken a chance.
/Handicapped and dual space parking is another story.
 
2014-04-10 06:05:35 PM

Isitoveryet: I kinda feel sorry for the lady that owns the BM'er, i bet she's cute & successful.


/no I don't


I bet the driver was totally level headed and understanding of the situation and accepts the consequences without a lawsuit.

/no I don't
 
2014-04-10 06:05:41 PM

Valeriyance: I am amazed they only got a $100 ticket.  I expected a much larger fine and possible towing if the owner was not present.


plutoniumfeather: only $100 ticket?  it ought to be more.  LOTS more.

/i'm not a fireman, but Dad was.


Between the glass replacement, the body damage and probably the water damage, which im hoping none of would be covered by insurance, im sure its gonna cost him a lot more than $100...
 
2014-04-10 06:08:16 PM
"It's similar to those who park in a handicapped spot,'' MacDonald said. "It's just something you don't do.''

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2014-04-10 06:08:24 PM
FTA:  This morning, the BMW is no longer is parked next to the hydrant.

And I'll bet someone has learned a valuable lesson they'll be able to use for the rest of their life.
 
2014-04-10 06:10:33 PM

Mr. Right: FTA:  This morning, the BMW is no longer is parked next to the hydrant.

And I'll bet someone has learned a valuable lesson they'll be able to use for the rest of their life.


This a BMW owner. I'll bet against it.
 
2014-04-10 06:11:29 PM

GarbageDay: Of course it was a BMW. German-made vehicles scream "A farking prick drives this car."

/Including Volkswagen, but to a lesser degree


I dunno about that.

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2014-04-10 06:12:30 PM

hitmanric: Mr. Right: FTA:  This morning, the BMW is no longer is parked next to the hydrant.

And I'll bet someone has learned a valuable lesson they'll be able to use for the rest of their life.

This a BMW owner. I'll bet against it.


Probably called their daddy and already have a new car.
 
2014-04-10 06:17:48 PM

tinyarena: Not to be "That Guy" or anything but, if they had to pick the car up to move it, why didn't they move it out of the way in the first place?

I guess I don't understand their manly ways...


Time, primarily. The first thing they wanted to do was get water flowing. They only moved the car later because the initial setup was kinking the hose.

A simpler answer, of course, is rage (and rightfully so). If you some jerkface's beemer is preventing you from doing your job *and* possibly endangering people's lives, are you going to be more inclined towards a solution that protects their valuable property or one that lets you smash up their car with a fire axe? Most people would gravitate towards the axe-based solution.
 
2014-04-10 06:19:41 PM

KeithLM: tinyarena: Not to be "That Guy" or anything but, if they had to pick the car up to move it, why didn't they move it out of the way in the first place?

I guess I don't understand their manly ways...

They moved it a short distance.  Moving it a greater distance to completely clear the hydrant would have required more time and energy, and could have lead to someone injuring themselves, all while they should have been fighting the fire.


  About a year ago I was directing traffic at my kid's high school for a Marching Band invitational when we had to physically move a car just a little bit to let the buses out of their parking area.  It took 6 of us to move it a few inches, and that was not trying to destroy any of the body work or separate tires from rims.  If you don't want your car damaged, park where you are supposed to.
 
2014-04-10 06:22:48 PM
Just saw this story on the Boston news, where they interviewed the car owner's brother. The reason for parking in front of the hydrant:  he wanted to just quickly check on his friends in the area since there was a fire.

Farking brilliant.
 
2014-04-10 06:22:59 PM

ZAZ: Thingster

Broken glass is normally a zero-deductible insurance claim.


With any luck at all, there's a coverage exclusion for events in the commission of a crime or other violation, so this jerk gets to pay the hydrant parking ticket and the repair bills out of pocket.
 
2014-04-10 06:24:10 PM

tinyarena: Not to be "That Guy" or anything but, if they had to pick the car up to move it, why didn't they move it out of the way in the first place?


I guess I don't understand their manly ways...



Because it had a fire hose running through it and moving it farther would just kink the hose.
 
2014-04-10 06:24:29 PM

itsaidwhat: Smashing the windows is so unnecessary.....when they have those hydraulic jaws that can pry the doors open.


Takes too long to haul that thing up and start it, vs just grabbing the axe and swinging away.
 
2014-04-10 06:28:00 PM
And in the same vein, the "divert every man on site to lift-slide the car out of the way" vs the "fark em, send one guy with an axe to bust the windows and toss the hose through"...
Well, it's pretty clear which one a busy fire chief is going to pick.
 
2014-04-10 06:28:11 PM

tinyarena: Not to be "That Guy" or anything but, if they had to pick the car up to move it, why didn't they move it out of the way in the first place?

I guess I don't understand their manly ways...


Justice. That's why.
 
2014-04-10 06:31:51 PM

tinyarena: Not to be "That Guy" or anything but, if they had to pick the car up to move it, why didn't they move it out of the way in the first place?

I guess I don't understand their manly ways...


They didnt just pick it up and carry it. The video of them moving it away from the curb had guys surrounding the car, bouncing it up and down just to shift it far enough away to get the hose on properly. I'm sure they would have preferred not having to go through the car at all, but the priority is getting water as quickly as possible.
 
2014-04-10 06:36:23 PM

itsaidwhat: Valeriyance: I am amazed they only got a $100 ticket.  I expected a much larger fine and possible towing if the owner was not present.

I think it would be more poetic if the fine were $1.


I think we've identified the owner of the BMW
 
2014-04-10 06:39:46 PM

felching pen: ZAZ: Thingster

Broken glass is normally a zero-deductible insurance claim.

With any luck at all, there's a coverage exclusion for events in the commission of a crime or other violation, so this jerk gets to pay the hydrant parking ticket and the repair bills out of pocket.


Yup, the ticket just ensures the insurance company is aware and can deny all coverage.
 
2014-04-10 06:43:31 PM
Wow.  Lots of hatred for BMW owners.

/Mercedes-Benz owner.
 
2014-04-10 06:48:08 PM
no, just a little kidding, what proud parent wouldn't want their daughter owning a BMW?
 
2014-04-10 06:50:47 PM
I've never had to do this, but here's a similar situation that I had.

We had a kitchen fire at the local grocery store, and had a few cars parked in the fire lane with their hazards on.  "I'll move if there's ever something!" is the usual thing we hear from that.  We got on scene, lay down supply line, and block in three vehicles.  No window breaking or anything, but they weren't going anywhere for an hour or two.  Then, one of the owners comes up and asks, "Hey, can you move that truck?  I'm running late."  I thought about turning the deck gun on him.

We've gotten that question when blocking in vehicles with the ambulance, too.  I'm usually pretty patient with them and will move because they were parked legally, but sometimes things require more attention (like when the guy asked me to move while I was doing CPR on someone.

Oh, and don't even get me started on people not pulling to the right for our rigs.

/I'm not bitter
 
2014-04-10 06:53:47 PM

Valeriyance: I am amazed they only got a $100 ticket.  I expected a much larger fine and possible towing if the owner was not present.


I'm sure they normally would tow, but in this case seconds count.  Didn't read the entire article, but I wouldn't surprised if the car was towed shortly after the blaze was gone.

I know in my city they'd absolutely tow once parking enforcement saw it/were called in on it.
 
2014-04-10 06:54:18 PM

Beeblebrox: Wow.  Lots of hatred for BMW owners.

/Mercedes-Benz owner.


It's a moving target.  I'm finding it's more G37 owners and any Audi owner around here.  It's like they buy those to practice for when they get a BMW.
 
2014-04-10 06:57:08 PM

KublaiKhan: I've never had to do this, but here's a similar situation that I had.

We had a kitchen fire at the local grocery store, and had a few cars parked in the fire lane with their hazards on.  "I'll move if there's ever something!" is the usual thing we hear from that.  We got on scene, lay down supply line, and block in three vehicles.  No window breaking or anything, but they weren't going anywhere for an hour or two.  Then, one of the owners comes up and asks, "Hey, can you move that truck?  I'm running late."  I thought about turning the deck gun on him.

We've gotten that question when blocking in vehicles with the ambulance, too.  I'm usually pretty patient with them and will move because they were parked legally, but sometimes things require more attention (like when the guy asked me to move while I was doing CPR on someone.

Oh, and don't even get me started on people not pulling to the right for our rigs.

/I'm not bitter


No, you're not.  I can imagine the frustration.  I'm not a fireman or anything like that... but I live a block from a fire station.  I see it every friggin' week.  People have no idea how to deal with a fire truck or ambulance when driving.  Its insane!  Get the fark out of the way!
 
2014-04-10 07:02:10 PM
downstairs:No, you're not.  I can imagine the frustration.  I'm not a fireman or anything like that... but I live a block from a fire station.  I see it every friggin' week.  People have no idea how to deal with a fire truck or ambulance when driving.  Its insane!  Get the fark out of the way!

Oh it can be frustrating as hell, but sometimes people generally don't see/hear you coming, even with the sirens and lights.  What gets me are the people that flick you off, tail you after you pass them like we're blocking for them, or just act as if we're a huge inconvenience for them with dirty looks and horns beeping.

(and then there are the people who go overboard and drive up and onto tree lawns to get out of your way, but I guess at least they're doing the right thing technically)
 
2014-04-10 07:03:25 PM
Hail, Hydrant!
 
2014-04-10 07:11:14 PM
I know there's insurance, but there should be a clause in the policy to exempt paying for this kinda crap. I'd like to heal them squeal about it in court. Too bad the firefighters didn't take a dump in it too. A side dose of humiliation for the driver is in order too, like a bumper sticker for DUI convictions.
 
2014-04-10 07:12:09 PM

KublaiKhan: downstairs:No, you're not.  I can imagine the frustration.  I'm not a fireman or anything like that... but I live a block from a fire station.  I see it every friggin' week.  People have no idea how to deal with a fire truck or ambulance when driving.  Its insane!  Get the fark out of the way!

Oh it can be frustrating as hell, but sometimes people generally don't see/hear you coming, even with the sirens and lights.  What gets me are the people that flick you off, tail you after you pass them like we're blocking for them, or just act as if we're a huge inconvenience for them with dirty looks and horns beeping.

(and then there are the people who go overboard and drive up and onto tree lawns to get out of your way, but I guess at least they're doing the right thing technically)


I can't stand the people that think they're entitled to special rules because they got out of the way. Dove into a left turn lane to make way for the truck? That was nice of you. Guess what? When that left turn arrow comes up you have to fraking turn left now. You can't just sit there fraking up traffic for a couple cycles.
 
2014-04-10 07:17:45 PM

KublaiKhan: downstairs:No, you're not.  I can imagine the frustration.  I'm not a fireman or anything like that... but I live a block from a fire station.  I see it every friggin' week.  People have no idea how to deal with a fire truck or ambulance when driving.  Its insane!  Get the fark out of the way!

Oh it can be frustrating as hell, but sometimes people generally don't see/hear you coming, even with the sirens and lights.  What gets me are the people that flick you off, tail you after you pass them like we're blocking for them, or just act as if we're a huge inconvenience for them with dirty looks and horns beeping.

(and then there are the people who go overboard and drive up and onto tree lawns to get out of your way, but I guess at least they're doing the right thing technically)


My wife would do that. I GUARANTEE it.
 
2014-04-10 07:17:59 PM

KublaiKhan: Oh it can be frustrating as hell, but sometimes people generally don't see/hear you coming, even with the sirens and lights. What gets me are the people that flick you off, tail you after you pass them like we're blocking for them, or just act as if we're a huge inconvenience for them with dirty looks and horns beeping.


Sheesh!  Flick you off?!  Wow.

In terms of not hearing you coming... does your city use those new-ish low-frequency buzzers (for lack of a technical term) that literally shake the ground within a couple blocks radius?  Those are pretty crazy.  They'll shake my monitor at my desk when they pass by close.
 
2014-04-10 07:19:06 PM

KublaiKhan: I've never had to do this, but here's a similar situation that I had.

We had a kitchen fire at the local grocery store, and had a few cars parked in the fire lane with their hazards on.  "I'll move if there's ever something!" is the usual thing we hear from that.  We got on scene, lay down supply line, and block in three vehicles.  No window breaking or anything, but they weren't going anywhere for an hour or two.  Then, one of the owners comes up and asks, "Hey, can you move that truck?  I'm running late."  I thought about turning the deck gun on him.

We've gotten that question when blocking in vehicles with the ambulance, too.  I'm usually pretty patient with them and will move because they were parked legally, but sometimes things require more attention (like when the guy asked me to move while I was doing CPR on someone.

Oh, and don't even get me started on people not pulling to the right for our rigs.

/I'm not bitter


I always thought you guys needed cow plows on the front. If they don't get out of your way, go Mad Max on them!
 
2014-04-10 07:25:38 PM

The Ice Queen: KublaiKhan: I've never had to do this, but here's a similar situation that I had.

We had a kitchen fire at the local grocery store, and had a few cars parked in the fire lane with their hazards on.  "I'll move if there's ever something!" is the usual thing we hear from that.  We got on scene, lay down supply line, and block in three vehicles.  No window breaking or anything, but they weren't going anywhere for an hour or two.  Then, one of the owners comes up and asks, "Hey, can you move that truck?  I'm running late."  I thought about turning the deck gun on him.

We've gotten that question when blocking in vehicles with the ambulance, too.  I'm usually pretty patient with them and will move because they were parked legally, but sometimes things require more attention (like when the guy asked me to move while I was doing CPR on someone.

Oh, and don't even get me started on people not pulling to the right for our rigs.

/I'm not bitter

I always thought you guys needed cow plows on the front. If they don't get out of your way, go Mad Max on them!


I watched a documentary on how fire trucks are fabricated. They are built like trains. Or tanks. Tranks.
 
2014-04-10 07:26:54 PM

plutoniumfeather: only $100 ticket?  it ought to be more.  LOTS more.

/i'm not a fireman, but Dad was.


It should be higher, but I am glad this prick has to fix his crappy German hoopty out of his own pocket. Of course, he will probably hire some idiot and try to sue the city or something because (as has been said before) anybody driving a BMW is usually THAT dense.

That said, why didn't the firefighters just tear off the doors? I mean, I think it would be easier for 6 guys to just use the jaws of life and rip the doors off than to lift up a car and move it a little. No kinks, no fuss. Plus, if you are dumb enough to park in front of a fire hydrant, you should get a lot more than a little fine and minimal damage.
 
2014-04-10 07:28:00 PM

Jument: tinyarena: Not to be "That Guy" or anything but, if they had to pick the car up to move it, why didn't they move it out of the way in the first place?

I guess I don't understand their manly ways...

Time, primarily. The first thing they wanted to do was get water flowing. They only moved the car later because the initial setup was kinking the hose.

A simpler answer, of course, is rage (and rightfully so). If you some jerkface's beemer is preventing you from doing your job *and* possibly endangering people's lives, are you going to be more inclined towards a solution that protects their valuable property or one that lets you smash up their car with a fire axe? Most people would gravitate towards the axe-based solution.


And yelling F*CK YEAH! while doing so, I suspect.
 
2014-04-10 07:30:36 PM
Possible owner?

www.mbird.com

/you guys are really slippin'
 
2014-04-10 07:37:26 PM

Wessoman: plutoniumfeather: only $100 ticket?  it ought to be more.  LOTS more.

/i'm not a fireman, but Dad was.

It should be higher, but I am glad this prick has to fix his crappy German hoopty out of his own pocket. Of course, he will probably hire some idiot and try to sue the city or something because (as has been said before) anybody driving a BMW is usually THAT dense.

That said, why didn't the firefighters just tear off the doors? I mean, I think it would be easier for 6 guys to just use the jaws of life and rip the doors off than to lift up a car and move it a little. No kinks, no fuss. Plus, if you are dumb enough to park in front of a fire hydrant, you should get a lot more than a little fine and minimal damage.


Time keeps on ticken, ticken ticken in to the future of someone burning up if they don't get water STAT.
 
2014-04-10 07:41:18 PM
Well played
 
2014-04-10 07:42:21 PM

Invincible: felching pen: ZAZ: Thingster

Broken glass is normally a zero-deductible insurance claim.

With any luck at all, there's a coverage exclusion for events in the commission of a crime or other violation, so this jerk gets to pay the hydrant parking ticket and the repair bills out of pocket.

Yup, the ticket just ensures the insurance company is aware and can deny all coverage.


This person gets it.  A ticket for the violation and the insurance company can give the BMW owner the finger.  Repairs are their own problem.  The damages were the result from their own illegal parking.  Get cited in an accident, you get no money for repairs.

Ex-Texan: I know there's insurance, but there should be a clause in the policy to exempt paying for this kinda crap. I'd like to heal them squeal about it in court. Too bad the firefighters didn't take a dump in it too. A side dose of humiliation for the driver is in order too, like a bumper sticker for DUI convictions.


See above.
 
2014-04-10 07:55:57 PM

NeoCortex42: Just saw this story on the Boston news, where they interviewed the car owner's brother. The reason for parking in front of the hydrant:  he wanted to just quickly check on his friends in the area since there was a fire.

Farking brilliant.


Ah, so he and his friends are functionally retarded? That explains a lot.
 
2014-04-10 07:58:56 PM

Russ1642:I can't stand the people that think they're entitled to special rules because they got out of the way. Dove into a left turn lane to make way for the truck? That was nice of you. Guess what? When that left turn arrow comes up you have to fraking turn left now. You can't just sit there fraking up traffic for a couple cycles.

Oh yeah, I see that a lot, too.  Not only did they screw up traffic for everyone else, but now they've forced us to go into oncoming traffic to pass.  The general rule is to pull to the right, and I will not pass someone on the right in a squad or rig because I don't know what they plan on doing.  Always to the left.

downstairs: Sheesh!  Flick you off?!  Wow.

In terms of not hearing you coming... does your city use those new-ish low-frequency buzzers (for lack of a technical term) that literally shake the ground within a couple blocks radius?  Those are pretty crazy.  They'll shake my monitor at my desk when they pass by close.


All the time.  Had a couple on a motorcycle the other day do that because they refused to pull over as I was trying to turn into the college rec center for an EMS call.  Forced me to wait for them to pass in the opposite direction before I could turn, and the woman on the back flipped me the bird as I honked the air horn at them.  I guess we just inconvenience the hell out of everybody!

As for our sirens, we don't have the low frequency ones.  We have the electronic sirens that are loud as hell for our squad, and a good old grinder for the engine and tower (the typical fire engine siren sound everyone's used to).  They work well enough, plus our traffic light changing system is built around them, so it'd be hard to change that.
 
2014-04-10 08:00:54 PM

unyon: You know, the only problem with this is that the hydrant is lower than the windows.  If it were higher, then you could also get water from the hydrant connection to run down into the car, destroy the interior, and really do it up right.


I'm sure that little detail is taken care of when they disconnect the hose from the hydrant.  Oops, forgot to drain it before we disconnected it from the hydrant.  Woopsie, didn't close the hydrant all the way, either.  We'll get right on that in a moment...
...or two.

The best part is that even though Commander Cheesedick probably came running up, freaking out about his douchemobile, there is nothing he can do about it but watch and get laughed at.
images.sodahead.com
 
2014-04-10 08:01:40 PM

Russ1642: I can't stand the people that think they're entitled to special rules because they got out of the way. Dove into a left turn lane to make way for the truck? That was nice of you. Guess what? When that left turn arrow comes up you have to fraking turn left now. You can't just sit there fraking up traffic for a couple cycles.


Well I messed that last post up!  Should've previewed first.  Here's what I wrote back on this:

Oh yeah, I see that a lot, too.  Not only did they screw up traffic for everyone else, but now they've forced us to go into oncoming traffic to pass.  The general rule is to pull to the right, and I will not pass someone on the right in a squad or rig because I don't know what they plan on doing.  Always to the left.
 
2014-04-10 08:14:47 PM

KeithLM: tinyarena: Not to be "That Guy" or anything but, if they had to pick the car up to move it, why didn't they move it out of the way in the first place?

I guess I don't understand their manly ways...

They moved it a short distance.  Moving it a greater distance to completely clear the hydrant would have required more time and energy, and could have lead to someone injuring themselves, all while they should have been fighting the fire.


Moving it a foot to avoid a kink is a lot easier than moving it 10 feet to get it completely out of the way, all during a fire.
 
2014-04-10 08:15:22 PM
Csb:
College dorm, series finale of Seinfeld. Asshats lit off fireworks in the hallway about halfway through. Our anger was placated slightly when we got to see the firetruck shove a car about 20 feet (they couldn't make the corner because the car was parked way too close to the intersection).
 
2014-04-10 08:16:22 PM

KublaiKhan: Russ1642: I can't stand the people that think they're entitled to special rules because they got out of the way. Dove into a left turn lane to make way for the truck? That was nice of you. Guess what? When that left turn arrow comes up you have to fraking turn left now. You can't just sit there fraking up traffic for a couple cycles.

Well I messed that last post up!  Should've previewed first.  Here's what I wrote back on this:

Oh yeah, I see that a lot, too.  Not only did they screw up traffic for everyone else, but now they've forced us to go into oncoming traffic to pass.  The general rule is to pull to the right, and I will not pass someone on the right in a squad or rig because I don't know what they plan on doing.  Always to the left.


Do bikes pull over or do they do their normal screw-the-road-rules-I'm-a-cyclist thing?
 
2014-04-10 08:16:26 PM

Gyrfalcon: NeoCortex42: Just saw this story on the Boston news, where they interviewed the car owner's brother. The reason for parking in front of the hydrant:  he wanted to just quickly check on his friends in the area since there was a fire.

Farking brilliant.

Ah, so he and his friends are functionally retarded? That explains a lot.


We are talking about Boston after all.
 
2014-04-10 08:29:50 PM

MylesHeartVodak: Invincible: felching pen: ZAZ: Thingster

Broken glass is normally a zero-deductible insurance claim.

With any luck at all, there's a coverage exclusion for events in the commission of a crime or other violation, so this jerk gets to pay the hydrant parking ticket and the repair bills out of pocket.

Yup, the ticket just ensures the insurance company is aware and can deny all coverage.

This person gets it.  A ticket for the violation and the insurance company can give the BMW owner the finger.  Repairs are their own problem.  The damages were the result from their own illegal parking.  Get cited in an accident, you get no money for repairs.

Ex-Texan: I know there's insurance, but there should be a clause in the policy to exempt paying for this kinda crap. I'd like to heal them squeal about it in court. Too bad the firefighters didn't take a dump in it too. A side dose of humiliation for the driver is in order too, like a bumper sticker for DUI convictions.

See above.


DUI accidents are covered by insurance.
 
2014-04-10 08:32:03 PM
me reading the headline:

" I bet the fireguys smashed out the windows of a car parked in front of a hydrant and ran the hose through it:

*Click* yup

I personally was under the perception that this is normal operational procedure for all fire departments across the nation.
 
2014-04-10 08:49:39 PM

JohnAnnArbor: KublaiKhan: Russ1642: I can't stand the people that think they're entitled to special rules because they got out of the way. Dove into a left turn lane to make way for the truck? That was nice of you. Guess what? When that left turn arrow comes up you have to fraking turn left now. You can't just sit there fraking up traffic for a couple cycles.

Well I messed that last post up!  Should've previewed first.  Here's what I wrote back on this:

Oh yeah, I see that a lot, too.  Not only did they screw up traffic for everyone else, but now they've forced us to go into oncoming traffic to pass.  The general rule is to pull to the right, and I will not pass someone on the right in a squad or rig because I don't know what they plan on doing.  Always to the left.

Do bikes pull over or do they do their normal screw-the-road-rules-I'm-a-cyclist thing?


The latter, of course!  Well, most of them, at least.
 
2014-04-10 08:53:48 PM
MacDonald said firefighters don't go out of their way to damage property as they were forced to do by the driver of the BMW.

Y'know, I don't believe this.

But I also don't care if they do.  Fark people who park in front of hydrants.
 
2014-04-10 08:56:35 PM

Wessoman: plutoniumfeather: only $100 ticket?  it ought to be more.  LOTS more.

/i'm not a fireman, but Dad was.

It should be higher, but I am glad this prick has to fix his crappy German hoopty out of his own pocket. Of course, he will probably hire some idiot and try to sue the city or something because (as has been said before) anybody driving a BMW is usually THAT dense.

That said, why didn't the firefighters just tear off the doors? I mean, I think it would be easier for 6 guys to just use the jaws of life and rip the doors off than to lift up a car and move it a little. No kinks, no fuss. Plus, if you are dumb enough to park in front of a fire hydrant, you should get a lot more than a little fine and minimal damage.


The jaws of life are heavy and slow.  At least that's my experience from using them.  I'd say just break the windows and open the doors.  Looks like there was enough room, then they wouldn't have needed to move it.  But, that might've set off an alarm, so they'd have to smash up the battery or something...
 
2014-04-10 08:57:21 PM
Tree lawn?
 
2014-04-10 09:00:01 PM

stewbert: MylesHeartVodak: Invincible: felching pen: ZAZ: Thingster

Broken glass is normally a zero-deductible insurance claim.

With any luck at all, there's a coverage exclusion for events in the commission of a crime or other violation, so this jerk gets to pay the hydrant parking ticket and the repair bills out of pocket.

Yup, the ticket just ensures the insurance company is aware and can deny all coverage.

This person gets it.  A ticket for the violation and the insurance company can give the BMW owner the finger.  Repairs are their own problem.  The damages were the result from their own illegal parking.  Get cited in an accident, you get no money for repairs.

Ex-Texan: I know there's insurance, but there should be a clause in the policy to exempt paying for this kinda crap. I'd like to heal them squeal about it in court. Too bad the firefighters didn't take a dump in it too. A side dose of humiliation for the driver is in order too, like a bumper sticker for DUI convictions.

See above.

DUI accidents are covered by insurance.


Maybe in your state, or by your company, Hubie.  Stick with thT company.

We both work in the same industry, and in the same exec positions.

I know that my own insurance company tried to "explore their options" in my only claim, even after 25+ years.  I rolled down a mountain 3-1/2 times, more than 200 feet downhill, after closing the kitchen late at night.  The local insurance company sent a State Trooper to breathalyze me, when I was strapped down and still being treated in the ER.  I was fully cleared, but they did their damnedest to show that a weather-related accident was my fault.  I was not at fault.  They had to pay, but they increased my rate to ridiculous amounts.  Nobody else will sign me for at least one more year.  I have to pay their blackmail until this one and only accident (Only one in 25+ years of driving with the same insurance company.)

Insurance agents are your best friends until you have a claim.
 
2014-04-10 09:05:37 PM
I'll bet the car owner won't make that mistake again. When I saw this story posted here, I was actually sort of hoping the owner would be featured. Sadly, no...

I wonder how much the repairs are gonna cost. And I wonder if he'll even bother with insurance.
 
2014-04-10 09:21:05 PM

Wessoman: plutoniumfeather: only $100 ticket?  it ought to be more.  LOTS more.

/i'm not a fireman, but Dad was.

It should be higher, but I am glad this prick has to fix his crappy German hoopty out of his own pocket. Of course, he will probably hire some idiot and try to sue the city or something because (as has been said before) anybody driving a BMW is usually THAT dense.

That said, why didn't the firefighters just tear off the doors? I mean, I think it would be easier for 6 guys to just use the jaws of life and rip the doors off than to lift up a car and move it a little. No kinks, no fuss. Plus, if you are dumb enough to park in front of a fire hydrant, you should get a lot more than a little fine and minimal damage.


The jaws of life are powerful, bu slow.  I saw them being used to remove a door after a car got T-boned in front of my apartment complex; it took about ten minutes to remove a single door.
 
2014-04-10 09:36:26 PM

Cyno01: Another angle, looks like they beat the shiat out of the sidepanel attaching the hose. 

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But i can see why they needed to move the car back.


MacDonald said firefighters don't go out of their way to damage property as they were forced to do by the driver of the BMW.



They could have gotten the hose unkinked another way... they could have used a few tools to remove that door and quarter panel that are in the way.
 
2014-04-10 09:39:33 PM
As a BMW tech, I approve of the firefighters' solution. Pay my bills baby.
 
2014-04-10 10:00:36 PM

RatMotor: As a BMW tech, I approve of the firefighters' solution. Pay my bills baby.


You are doing it wrong.  Switch to a Subaru tech and find a drop of oil that dripped off the stick while checking the level.  "This needs to be handled.  Your dog might lick it.  We can fix that for about $350 and it will only take an hour.".
 
2014-04-10 10:17:40 PM

NeoCortex42: tinyarena: Not to be "That Guy" or anything but, if they had to pick the car up to move it, why didn't they move it out of the way in the first place?

I guess I don't understand their manly ways...

They didnt just pick it up and carry it. The video of them moving it away from the curb had guys surrounding the car, bouncing it up and down just to shift it far enough away to get the hose on properly. I'm sure they would have preferred not having to go through the car at all, but the priority is getting water as quickly as possible.


I call BULLSHIAT. If their real priority was getting water quickly then they would have run the hose under the car. Easier, faster, better angle to the hose. It takes a lot more tone and effort to; 1. Find a tool and break both Windows; 2. Manhandle the hose through the car ; 3. then later gather a bunch of people to have to move the car. It is obvious that they went well out of their way to maliciously destroy private property, outside the limits of the law. I guess you guys are all ok with vigilante firemen dispensing street justice.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way condone parking in front of hydrants. They should be fined (I think more than $100). If people don't think the fine is high enough, then lobby to change the law. The firemen went out of their way to unnecessarily cause thousands of dollars in damage. You all seem to just be ok with that. Huh..
 
2014-04-10 10:38:59 PM
jbrooks544:I call BULLSHIAT. If their real priority was getting water quickly then they would have run the hose under the car. Easier, faster, better angle to the hose.

img.fark.net

Tell me again how under the car would be a "better angle."
 
2014-04-10 10:45:37 PM

MylesHeartVodak: stewbert: MylesHeartVodak: Invincible: felching pen: ZAZ: Thingster

Broken glass is normally a zero-deductible insurance claim.

With any luck at all, there's a coverage exclusion for events in the commission of a crime or other violation, so this jerk gets to pay the hydrant parking ticket and the repair bills out of pocket.

Yup, the ticket just ensures the insurance company is aware and can deny all coverage.

This person gets it.  A ticket for the violation and the insurance company can give the BMW owner the finger.  Repairs are their own problem.  The damages were the result from their own illegal parking.  Get cited in an accident, you get no money for repairs.

Ex-Texan: I know there's insurance, but there should be a clause in the policy to exempt paying for this kinda crap. I'd like to heal them squeal about it in court. Too bad the firefighters didn't take a dump in it too. A side dose of humiliation for the driver is in order too, like a bumper sticker for DUI convictions.

See above.

DUI accidents are covered by insurance.

Maybe in your state, or by your company, Hubie.  Stick with thT company.

We both work in the same industry, and in the same exec positions.

I know that my own insurance company tried to "explore their options" in my only claim, even after 25+ years.  I rolled down a mountain 3-1/2 times, more than 200 feet downhill, after closing the kitchen late at night.  The local insurance company sent a State Trooper to breathalyze me, when I was strapped down and still being treated in the ER.  I was fully cleared, but they did their damnedest to show that a weather-related accident was my fault.  I was not at fault.  They had to pay, but they increased my rate to ridiculous amounts.  Nobody else will sign me for at least one more year.  I have to pay their blackmail until this one and only accident (Only one in 25+ years of driving with the same insurance company.)

Insurance agents are your best friends until you have a claim.


If you were cleared, why won't another company sign you?

I had a bit of an indiscretion in my past, wholly at fault, my car totaled, telephone pole in pieces, transformer and lines down, private property damage. Insurance covered it, then immediately dropped me.

I was insured within 5 days through another company, paying the same rate I was at the other company pre-wreck.
 
2014-04-10 10:51:52 PM

Lachwen: jbrooks544:I call BULLSHIAT. If their real priority was getting water quickly then they would have run the hose under the car. Easier, faster, better angle to the hose.



Tell me again how under the car would be a "better angle."


The photo doesn't look conclusive. From what I see, the bottom of the car looks closer to the outlet than the window sill. Also, the window is off to the side, whereas the underside route wouldn't require an up angle, then another turn to go through the car. I'm sure you are right though, it is impossible that they went out of their way to just be dick bags, or because they saw it in done crappy movie.
 
2014-04-10 10:58:53 PM

BlueBox: RatMotor: As a BMW tech, I approve of the firefighters' solution. Pay my bills baby.

You are doing it wrong.  Switch to a Subaru tech and find a drop of oil that dripped off the stick while checking the level.  "This needs to be handled.  Your dog might lick it.  We can fix that for about $350 and it will only take an hour.".


Animals don't lick oil, they go for coolant, and even that has changed in the last decade or so as the formulation has changed to eliminate the sweet flavor they were attracted to.
Boxer motors are always a PITA to work on, that's probably only an hour labor plus parts & maybe a fluid top-off.

At my dealership, we would probably quote ~4 hours labor per door to this guy - you have to completely dismantle the door to get every last shard of safety glass out, or it will rattle around in there forever, then those frameless windows on the coupes need to be carefully adjusted or there will be water leaks/wind noise.  Eight hours labor plus whatever the glass costs, I'd guess ballpark $2000 in repairs, assuming there's no other interior damage and that sheetmetal damage to the rear quarter panel was already there.
 
2014-04-10 11:05:47 PM

RatMotor: Eight hours labor plus whatever the glass costs, I'd guess ballpark $2000 in repairs, assuming there's no other interior damage and that sheetmetal damage to the rear quarter panel was already there.


The car was two days old. There's also a nice ding in the door in addition to the quarter panel...
 
2014-04-10 11:15:29 PM

dolphkhan: RatMotor: Eight hours labor plus whatever the glass costs, I'd guess ballpark $2000 in repairs, assuming there's no other interior damage and that sheetmetal damage to the rear quarter panel was already there.

The car was two days old. There's also a nice ding in the door in addition to the quarter panel...


Can't see the door damage in the pics provided, but that quarter is hammered, no amount of massaging will ever get that straight again.

Also, the 4 series that replaces the 3 coupe has been in dealers for two months now, he might have owned it for two days, but I doubt it was two days old.

Sounds like you have first hand knowledge of the situation?
 
2014-04-10 11:21:39 PM

RatMotor: Can't see the door damage in the pics provided, but that quarter is hammered, no amount of massaging will ever get that straight again.

Also, the 4 series that replaces the 3 coupe has been in dealers for two months now, he might have owned it for two days, but I doubt it was two days old.

Sounds like you have first hand knowledge of the situation?


Good point, I don't know cars. The news said the guy had just bought it two days ago.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/04/10/illegally-parked-bmw-smashed-b y- firefighters-was-brand-new/
 
2014-04-10 11:28:05 PM

jbrooks544: Lachwen: jbrooks544:I call BULLSHIAT. If their real priority was getting water quickly then they would have run the hose under the car. Easier, faster, better angle to the hose.

Tell me again how under the car would be a "better angle."

The photo doesn't look conclusive. From what I see, the bottom of the car looks closer to the outlet than the window sill. Also, the window is off to the side, whereas the underside route wouldn't require an up angle, then another turn to go through the car. I'm sure you are right though, it is impossible that they went out of their way to just be dick bags, or because they saw it in done crappy movie.


Curb.  Also, explain to me how it's easier to for them to fish it underneath the car where it's a lot more difficult for people in full bunker gear to be pushing and pulling it through?  Unfortunately have come to expect this "criticize them for any reason" attitude from internet tough-guys for stories about cops, but firefighters?
 
2014-04-10 11:45:15 PM

crm114: jbrooks544: Lachwen: jbrooks544:I call BULLSHIAT. If their real priority was getting water quickly then they would have run the hose under the car. Easier, faster, better angle to the hose.

Tell me again how under the car would be a "better angle."

The photo doesn't look conclusive. From what I see, the bottom of the car looks closer to the outlet than the window sill. Also, the window is off to the side, whereas the underside route wouldn't require an up angle, then another turn to go through the car. I'm sure you are right though, it is impossible that they went out of their way to just be dick bags, or because they saw it in done crappy movie.

Curb.  Also, explain to me how it's easier to for them to fish it underneath the car where it's a lot more difficult for people in full bunker gear to be pushing and pulling it through?  Unfortunately have come to expect this "criticize them for any reason" attitude from internet tough-guys for stories about cops, but firefighters?


Yeah, that's what I am, an internet tough guy. It is just impossible and unimaginable that I might possibly be correct, or that our sainted firefighters could ever do wrong.
 
2014-04-10 11:50:33 PM

dolphkhan: RatMotor: Can't see the door damage in the pics provided, but that quarter is hammered, no amount of massaging will ever get that straight again.

Also, the 4 series that replaces the 3 coupe has been in dealers for two months now, he might have owned it for two days, but I doubt it was two days old.

Sounds like you have first hand knowledge of the situation?

Good point, I don't know cars. The news said the guy had just bought it two days ago.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/04/10/illegally-parked-bmw-smashed-b y- firefighters-was-brand-new/


Gonna guess bought used two days ago, but yeah, it's gonna need some serious work:
cbsboston.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-04-11 12:00:08 AM

jbrooks544: crm114: jbrooks544: Lachwen: jbrooks544:I call BULLSHIAT. If their real priority was getting water quickly then they would have run the hose under the car. Easier, faster, better angle to the hose.

Tell me again how under the car would be a "better angle."

The photo doesn't look conclusive. From what I see, the bottom of the car looks closer to the outlet than the window sill. Also, the window is off to the side, whereas the underside route wouldn't require an up angle, then another turn to go through the car. I'm sure you are right though, it is impossible that they went out of their way to just be dick bags, or because they saw it in done crappy movie.

Curb.  Also, explain to me how it's easier to for them to fish it underneath the car where it's a lot more difficult for people in full bunker gear to be pushing and pulling it through?  Unfortunately have come to expect this "criticize them for any reason" attitude from internet tough-guys for stories about cops, but firefighters?

Yeah, that's what I am, an internet tough guy. It is just impossible and unimaginable that I might possibly be correct, or that our sainted firefighters could ever do wrong.


It's your car isn't it..  Go ahead, let it out...  We know you want to cry all about it...  "It's not fair, I only parked there for a moment cause I heard there was a fire nearby"

Your a Douche Bag.

i242.photobucket.com
 
2014-04-11 12:10:01 AM

jbrooks544: Lachwen: jbrooks544:I call BULLSHIAT. If their real priority was getting water quickly then they would have run the hose under the car. Easier, faster, better angle to the hose.

Tell me again how under the car would be a "better angle."

The photo doesn't look conclusive. From what I see, the bottom of the car looks closer to the outlet than the window sill. Also, the window is off to the side, whereas the underside route wouldn't require an up angle, then another turn to go through the car. I'm sure you are right though, it is impossible that they went out of their way to just be dick bags, or because they saw it in done crappy movie.


Going through the window prevents the owner from hopping in the car and driving over the hose when he decides to leave.
 
2014-04-11 12:24:30 AM
My sister in law is a firefighter and this is actually quite common. When she first started 10 years ago she'd email pics out the next day, but the novelty has long worn off. They also use the trucks to push cars out of the way and once she had to cut the side of a delivery van open to run a hose. On a few occasions she's intentionally bumped moving cars on roads when they wouldn't yield right of way.
 
2014-04-11 02:20:44 AM

KublaiKhan: downstairs:No, you're not.  I can imagine the frustration.  I'm not a fireman or anything like that... but I live a block from a fire station.  I see it every friggin' week.  People have no idea how to deal with a fire truck or ambulance when driving.  Its insane!  Get the fark out of the way!

Oh it can be frustrating as hell, but sometimes people generally don't see/hear you coming, even with the sirens and lights.  What gets me are the people that flick you off, tail you after you pass them like we're blocking for them, or just act as if we're a huge inconvenience for them with dirty looks and horns beeping.


And they will be the same people who biatch and moan incessantly that you didn't arrive soon enough to put the fire out when their house is burning down around their ears
 
2014-04-11 02:33:28 AM

Russ1642: I can't stand the people that think they're entitled to special rules because they got out of the way. Dove into a left turn lane to make way for the truck? That was nice of you. Guess what? When that left turn arrow comes up you have to fraking turn left now. You can't just sit there fraking up traffic for a couple cycles.


Alternatively, we all pulled onto the shoulder on the right like we're supposed to.  Now that the truck passed, some jerk has sped back into the road and is trying to pass everybody.  Just let everybody back on in the same order they were in before they pulled over.  Not difficult, special guy.
 
2014-04-11 06:38:23 AM

jbrooks544: Yeah, that's what I am, an internet tough guy. It is just impossible and unimaginable that I might possibly be correct, or that our sainted firefighters could ever do wrong.


You're not correct. At all.  Probably not ever.
You don't park in front of hydrants. Period.  What happens "if you do" isn't relevant, because your shouldn't be doing it.
Personal responsibility. Look into it.
 
2014-04-11 07:17:26 AM

Dl_white_power: It was only a 328. An M3 or 335 owner would not have taken a chance.
/Handicapped and dual space parking is another story.


I saw some stupid ass take up four spaces.  It wasn't a BMW, it was some super car, I didn't give a crap about what model it was just the stupid fark took up four spaces.
 
2014-04-11 07:37:34 AM

serial_crusher: Russ1642: I can't stand the people that think they're entitled to special rules because they got out of the way. Dove into a left turn lane to make way for the truck? That was nice of you. Guess what? When that left turn arrow comes up you have to fraking turn left now. You can't just sit there fraking up traffic for a couple cycles.

Alternatively, we all pulled onto the shoulder on the right like we're supposed to.  Now that the truck passed, some jerk has sped back into the road and is trying to pass everybody.  Just let everybody back on in the same order they were in before they pulled over.  Not difficult, special guy.


The ones who try to pass everyone after the rig goes by should be forced to go to the fire scene and have a hose run through their windows.

One of the most amazing things I ever saw was on I95 in Philly: fire truck splitting traffic to get to an accident (narrow shoulders, so they were going down the middle and everyone was moving left or right) with a line of cars behind it, also splitting traffic taking advantage of the hole the truck was making. I fully expected to see a cop writing tickets to a whole line of cars when I finally got to the scene, but nothing.

It was better the time I saw a PA state trooper walk right in front of a car using the shoulder to pass the stopped traffic and then loudly chew out the driver for being an ass.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-04-11 08:32:52 AM
Criminal acts do not void Massachusetts car insurance. If I get drunk and mow down a gang of schoolkids, I'm covered up to policy limits. If I illegally drive over a fire hose my insurance pays for the hose. If the company can prove I intended to cause the damage, their liability is reduced. They still have to buy a new hose or new second grader, but they don't have to fix my car. But breaking the law does not prove intent to harm.

I see nothing in the comprehensive insurance policy language that would exempt damage that could be blamed on the insured, unless the damage was intended by the insured.

Blocking a hydrant isn't even a crime. The state decriminalized parking tickets ages ago so they could be an easier source of revenue.

A general liability policy, like homeowner's insurance, is likely to disclaim coverage for criminal acts, but car insurance is special.
 
2014-04-11 09:59:52 AM
$100?  I think that fine is $285 bucks here.
 
2014-04-11 11:12:31 AM
jbrooks544:  I call BULLSHIAT. If their real priority was getting water quickly then they would have run the hose under the car. Easier, faster, better angle to the hose. It takes a lot more tone and effort to; 1. Find a tool and break both Windows; 2. Manhandle the hose through the car ; 3. then later gather a bunch of people to have to move the car. It is obvious that they went well out of their way to maliciously destroy private property, outside the limits of the law. I guess you guys are all ok with vigilante firemen dispensing street justice.
Don't get me wrong, I in no way condone parking in front of hydrants. They should be fined (I think more than $100). If people don't think the fine is high enough, then lobby to change the law. The firemen went out of their way to unnecessarily cause thousands of dollars in damage. You all seem to just be ok with that. Huh..


We always have tools with us.  This "finding a tool" was the first indication to me that you have no idea what you're talking about.  Most of us carry window punches already in our turnout gear, and on a fire scene, unless you're on the tip, you always have a tool with you, whether it's a set of irons or a hook.

Gathering people to move the vehicle was necessary to chase the kink out of the hose.  And you're right, it is obvious that the firefighters had to go out of their way to do this.  During a one alarm fire, let alone an eight alarm, being forced from the actual event at hand to have to deal with an asshat that shouldn't have impeded progress of the scene in the first place would technically be called "going out of the way."

And by going under the vehicle with the hoseline, you lose the ability to chase the kink vertically if need be because there's a whole car above you.  Over the car, your supply line would be too high, again losing the ability to chase the kink vertically.  So not only did this guy impede the supply of water, he also took men away from their main tasks of search, rescue, vent, and attack to move the car that shouldn't have been there in the first place.  And you're worried about "street justice."  Point being, this asshat should not have parked there in the first place, and he unfortunately had to reap the consequences of doing so.

Hope you get your Beemer fixed, soon.

Love, a saintly, vigilante firefighter
 
2014-04-11 01:23:00 PM
jbrooks544:
The photo doesn't look conclusive. From what I see, the bottom of the car looks closer to the outlet than the window sill. Also, the window is off to the side, whereas the underside route wouldn't require an up angle, then another turn to go through the car. I'm sure you are right though, it is impossible that they went out of their way to just be dick bags, or because they saw it in done crappy movie.

Know how I know you've never handled a 4 inch feed hose when it's charged?

Here's a tip.  Fill that flexible hose with high pressure water and it's going to try to kick upwards as it becomes rigid.  (not that I expect you know much about flexible tubes becoming rigid when filled with liquid, but that's neither here nor there)  No space for the upwards kick, you get a kink, then you're farked.

KublaiKhan don't use technical terms like "chase the kink", I'll bet he thinks that's what you do on Saturday nights at the bar...you know...THAT bar...

/just dogpiling on this idiot
//not a firefighter, but has nonetheless had to wrangle hoses
 
2014-04-11 04:44:28 PM

jbrooks544: crm114: jbrooks544: Lachwen: jbrooks544:I call BULLSHIAT. If their real priority was getting water quickly then they would have run the hose under the car. Easier, faster, better angle to the hose.

Tell me again how under the car would be a "better angle."

The photo doesn't look conclusive. From what I see, the bottom of the car looks closer to the outlet than the window sill. Also, the window is off to the side, whereas the underside route wouldn't require an up angle, then another turn to go through the car. I'm sure you are right though, it is impossible that they went out of their way to just be dick bags, or because they saw it in done crappy movie.

Curb.  Also, explain to me how it's easier to for them to fish it underneath the car where it's a lot more difficult for people in full bunker gear to be pushing and pulling it through?  Unfortunately have come to expect this "criticize them for any reason" attitude from internet tough-guys for stories about cops, but firefighters?

Yeah, that's what I am, an internet tough guy. It is just impossible and unimaginable that I might possibly be correct, or that our sainted firefighters could ever do wrong.


You're defending a guy who put the general public in jeopardy just to spare himself the inconvenience of looking for another parking spot. Do you really want to die on this hill?
 
2014-04-11 06:51:52 PM
You know, the Marine Corps Logistics Vehicle Replacement (LVSR) wrecker variant has a claw on it that's more than powerful enough for the truck to drive up to an ordinary sedan and lift it whole...we should start putting those on fire trucks :-)
 
2014-04-11 06:58:49 PM

Jument: "There is really nothing funny about it," he added.

I'm going to have to disagree with that statement.


Me too. I got an LOL out of it.
 
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