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2014-04-10 04:10:23 PM  

ristst: I worked with a guy (ex-military) that loved telling the story how he was gonna give his son an ass-whippin' for some reason, and his son threatened to call child services.

He said his answer was:  "Go ahead and call them.  You will be DEAD when they get here."
Son says "But you'll go to jail!"
He said "That may be....but you won't care because you will be DEAD."

I asked if he administered the ass-whippin'....the answer was yes.

/his son is now an officer in the Air Force


I think it is funny how people tell stories like this to show how good/appropriate/normal spanking can be. All it shows is what violent and unbalanced sadists can do. Threatening to kill your child? Really? Ya that guy should get locked up. If you ever think that is an appropriate threat, you need to be put away.
 
2014-04-10 04:10:37 PM  

Magorn: Cold_Sassy: Fuggin Bizzy: Warlordtrooper: just to play devils advocate here, isn't using a belt a rather normal form of punishment, at least it was when my mom was a kid.

...my mom used to discipline us with multiple blows from whatever weapon came to hand. I've always felt that was wrong, and resolved to do better for my kids.

My Mom did this exact thing too, paddle ball paddles, spatulas, belts, switches, you name it... and guess what?  We all lived and grew up to be successful adults.

Ero hoc post propter hoc?

it's a funny thing, perhaps because I am a genuine sadist, I truly cannot ever imagine striking my child, much less using an implement to increase the pain and severity of those beatings  (and Yes I am a minor expert in using  those very same implements on consenting adults) It actually makes me physically sick to contemplate (even though it was a regular feature of my upbringing , and I don;t consider my parent to have been abusive, just misguided)


Well, me neither.  We still love our Mom, we always did.  That was just the way it was.  BTW, my Father was present for our upbringing, but he refused to punish us and made her the bad guy, for which he lost my respect, as soon as I was old enough to connect the dots.
 
2014-04-10 04:13:41 PM  

Magorn: Ero hoc post propter hoc?


Firstly, Latin is forgiving of spelling and word order to an extent, but it's not quite  that forgiving.  "Post hoc ergo propter hoc".  Meaning "it came before, therefore it caused".

Secondly, this isn't a post-hoc fallacy at all.  When someone proposes a general rule p ==> q, providing a single example where p ==> ~q is called a 'counterexample', and it is actually logically sufficient to prove that the rule is false.  This is why when you're making positive claims of absolute statements the burden of proof is on you as the person making the claim.

It's different for  scientific statements since there's no implicit claim of variable-independence (in fact, the opposite), but that's not what's being discussed here.  It's someone claiming that corporal punishment is always bad for children "because reasons" -- it only takes one example of that not being the case to disprove the assertion.
 
2014-04-10 04:14:04 PM  
Attractive and successful peoples problems.
 
2014-04-10 04:15:04 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: My father had an old leather belt hanging on the back of the basement door with "psychology" carved into it.  If we acted up, our last warning was always "I'm going to use psychology on you if you don't knock it off".

He seldom had to even bring it out.  And he could make a snapping sound with it that was utterly terrifying.


tiamet4: I'm not against corporal punishment and I was spanked with a belt as a kid.  I remember my mom making the joke that I was free to call social services if I wanted.  It's not an uncommon thing.


Cold_Sassy: My Mom did this exact thing too, paddle ball paddles, spatulas, belts, switches, you name it... and guess what?  We all lived and grew up to be successful adults.


Your parents were all sadistic child abusers.
 
2014-04-10 04:17:13 PM  

traylor: Cold_Sassy: Fuggin Bizzy: Warlordtrooper: just to play devils advocate here, isn't using a belt a rather normal form of punishment, at least it was when my mom was a kid.

...my mom used to discipline us with multiple blows from whatever weapon came to hand. I've always felt that was wrong, and resolved to do better for my kids.

My Mom did this exact thing too, paddle ball paddles, spatulas, belts, switches, you name it... and guess what?  We all lived and grew up to be successful adults.

Sorry to bring you the bad news, but no, you didn't. Successful adults don't comment on Fark.


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2014-04-10 04:18:57 PM  
BTW, my problem with this kind of parenting is that parents are forcing a certain kind of behavior on their children. Maybe they are teaching the 'good' behavior, but their children will be like "WTF why why why I hate you". It's a kind of emotional extortion. Behave as I say, make mommy happy, or else...

If your kid does something wrong, instead of punishing them, take the time and explain the situation. Tell them why what they did is wrong . Teach them to think before they act. Teach them how to think, not what to think and what to do. It works.
 
2014-04-10 04:22:07 PM  
I used to get paddlings from my mom back in the day. I don't remember them ever for being anything serious - fighting with my brother, lying, minor stuff. The wallops graduated from a bare hand up to a special "just for thwapping your kid" paddle. (Not the kind with the air holes, though; more of a nicely sanded paddle ball paddle.) They stopped shortly after I got such a paddling that the thing snapped in two.

I don't recall my brother getting as much discipline, and he was a worse kid. He's since been through three wives in the time I've stayed married to one. I'd say I turned out okay.
 
2014-04-10 04:23:59 PM  

traylor: BTW, my problem with this kind of parenting is that parents are forcing a certain kind of behavior on their children. Maybe they are teaching the 'good' behavior, but their children will be like "WTF why why why I hate you". It's a kind of emotional extortion. Behave as I say, make mommy happy, or else...

If your kid does something wrong, instead of punishing them, take the time and explain the situation. Tell them why what they did is wrong . Teach them to think before they act. Teach them how to think, not what to think and what to do. It works.


whynotboth.jpg <-

Punishing without teaching your child is ineffective
Trying to teach your child and not punish them is also ineffective

You need to do both. Your job as a parent isn't to give into your child's every whim or desire but to make sure they grow up properly. If your child doesn't ate one point hate your guts, you probably are doing a poor job as a parent. You aren't there to be their best friend and smoke pot with them and play video games.
 
2014-04-10 04:27:26 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: You need to do both. Your job as a parent isn't to give into your child's every whim or desire but to make sure they grow up properly. If your child doesn't ate one point hate your guts, you probably are doing a poor job as a parent. You aren't there to be their best friend and smoke pot with them and play video games.


I had a similar word with my son the other day.
In short, I had to take away his XBox and his phone because he was abusing the privelidge too late at night.  Of course he was pissed and upset.  So I had to tell him, "Look, I want you to be happy and have fun.  But you also have to follow the rules.  Generally, I almost never punish you.  But this time, I am not your friend.  I am your father.  This conversation ends here."
 
2014-04-10 04:29:13 PM  
The cop in video, does he spend his weekends losing boxing matches?
 
2014-04-10 04:29:43 PM  

lostcat: And when the kid grows up to be a gangsta, everyone is going to complain that the parents didn't care and let the kid do whatever he wanted growing up.


yup.
 
2014-04-10 04:29:55 PM  

doubled99: This is why the government needs to take over all raising of children. So a consensus of people like you guys can decide what's right.


Nah.  We can just continue to narrow the scope of what amount of child abuse is acceptable until anyone who feels it necessary to hit their kids will go to jail.  It's already much better than it was 50 years ago, and I certainly don't see the trend going back the other way.
 
2014-04-10 04:30:46 PM  
Wait... doesn't Facebook state that you have to be 13 to have one?   I'd beat the shiat out of my 6 year old too if he made one then posted about how 'gangster' it is living and eating for free in a home with highspeed internet and no internet filters.
 
2014-04-10 04:38:59 PM  

sycraft: I think it is funny how people tell stories like this to show how good/appropriate/normal spanking can be. All it shows is what violent and unbalanced sadists can do. Threatening to kill your child? Really? Ya that guy should get locked up. If you ever think that is an appropriate threat, you need to be put away.


Don't getcher panties in a wad, Skippy.  It's merely a story I heard years ago....I can't even verify it's the truth.

But I did find it quite amusing, along with the other dozen or so people who heard him tell it.  He got big laughs.

Anywho, if you have to rag people here for being sickos, why don't you look up the thread where the toddler got a finger amputated at a gym and see what kind of sick, demented comments posters were making.  I'm not gonna say they were "jokes", because there was no humor in that incident.

Wanna know what people said to me when I called them out on it?  I'll say it to you:

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2014-04-10 04:43:45 PM  

Jim_Callahan: When someone proposes a general rule p ==> q, providing a single example where p ==> ~q is called a 'counterexample', and it is actually logically sufficient to prove that the rule is false.


I was told there would be no math in this thread.
 
2014-04-10 04:46:48 PM  
Next time, just stick to the petticoat punishment.
 
2014-04-10 04:49:53 PM  

Cold_Sassy: Fuggin Bizzy: Warlordtrooper: just to play devils advocate here, isn't using a belt a rather normal form of punishment, at least it was when my mom was a kid.

...my mom used to discipline us with multiple blows from whatever weapon came to hand. I've always felt that was wrong, and resolved to do better for my kids.

My Mom did this exact thing too, paddle ball paddles, spatulas, belts, switches, you name it... and guess what?  We all lived and grew up to be successful adults.


What it also your wonderful mom who engrained in you a hatred of "welfare/healthcare/b*stard children/Obamacare/illegal aliens, etc."
 
2014-04-10 05:01:53 PM  

GnomePaladin: ongbok: I know plenty of people that when they started showing signs of leaning towards an interest in gangsterism and criminality that a few hard beatings and public humiliation by their parents steered them away from those interest. Other people who's parents thought that beating wasn't the answer, and thought that talking and groundings were the way to go, ended up in the gang life or ended up doing something stupid trying to play gangster that got them into a mess. When it comes to gangs and criminal stuff, when a kid starts showing an active interest in it, a very forceful and hard response is what is needed to discourage them from it before somebody else does. Of course this is with kids that have involved parents. Kids that don't have involved parents are just on their own to figure it out.

I have some anecdotes as well.  They are the opposite of yours.  Whatever are we to do?


Sounds like the results come out about 50/50. So probably safe to assume that people are either born smart and good or dumb and bad. Nature outranks Nurture.
 
2014-04-10 05:02:11 PM  

ristst: tiamet4: I'm not against corporal punishment and I was spanked with a belt as a kid. I remember my mom making the joke that I was free to call social services if I wanted. It's not an uncommon thing.

I worked with a guy (ex-military) that loved telling the story how he was gonna give his son an ass-whippin' for some reason, and his son threatened to call child services.

He said his answer was:  "Go ahead and call them.  You will be DEAD when they get here."
Son says "But you'll go to jail!"
He said "That may be....but you won't care because you will be DEAD."

I asked if he administered the ass-whippin'....the answer was yes.

/his son is now an officer in the Air Force


I am not a parent but in dealing with anyone, adult or child, you can't issue an insane ultimatum because if you get called on it you lose the war. He's lucky his kid blinked first that day.
 
2014-04-10 05:03:08 PM  

probesport: Somebody gonna get a hurt real bad.


Ha, was just watching him the other night. +1 to you.
 
2014-04-10 05:13:09 PM  

mikebdoss: Your parents were all sadistic child abusers.


You should see what the children of the family got up to before you pass judgement.  I did some pretty horrible things to my brothers and sisters.
 
2014-04-10 05:14:22 PM  
I don't condone their behaviour.......but I understand it.


/can't imagine living with an 11 year old wanna-be thug that thinks he can get away with anything cause if they whip him they'll go to jail (and he's right, they did)
 
2014-04-10 05:19:28 PM  
 
2014-04-10 05:26:13 PM  

Cold_Sassy: Fuggin Bizzy: Warlordtrooper: just to play devils advocate here, isn't using a belt a rather normal form of punishment, at least it was when my mom was a kid.

...my mom used to discipline us with multiple blows from whatever weapon came to hand. I've always felt that was wrong, and resolved to do better for my kids.

My Mom did this exact thing too, paddle ball paddles, spatulas, belts, switches, you name it... and guess what?  We all lived and grew up to be successful adults.


Says the person posting on fark.
 
2014-04-10 05:53:15 PM  

Jument: I am not a parent but in dealing with anyone, adult or child, you can't issue an insane ultimatum because if you get called on it you lose the war. He's lucky his kid blinked first that day.


As I said above, no way I can verify the truth of it...could easily be fabricated.  I never took it at face value anyway.  Still funny, kinda in the way of Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy discussing the ass whippings they got as kids in their standup.

For the record (and before anyone else flames me):

The wife & I don't spank our daughter, we ground her.

/bolded so it can be seen easily
 
2014-04-10 05:58:26 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: "Beat your kids twice a day. If you don't know why...they do." --My Dad


And always pie the room before you go through the door. Your kids might be waiting on the other side with a shotgun
 
2014-04-10 05:59:52 PM  

ristst: Jument: I am not a parent but in dealing with anyone, adult or child, you can't issue an insane ultimatum because if you get called on it you lose the war. He's lucky his kid blinked first that day.

As I said above, no way I can verify the truth of it...could easily be fabricated.  I never took it at face value anyway.  Still funny, kinda in the way of Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy discussing the ass whippings they got as kids in their standup.

For the record (and before anyone else flames me):

The wife & I don't spank our daughter, we ground her.

/bolded so it can be seen easily


There is a difference between spanking as a continual punishment or surrogate punishment, and spanking to establish a line. I was spanked twice. That is all it took to know where the line was and not ever venture over it. I remember not really caring about being put in time-out or grounded. I didn't like it, but it was the fear of the spanking that kept me from going over the edge. I have seen very few kids who simply grounding and teaching them is effective.
 
2014-04-10 06:03:30 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Child belt beatings are legal in PA, as long as you don't use the buckle.

/don't ask me how i know that


IS it legal to beat your wife or girlfriend with a belt though? I mean, like the other poster said, Usually just a quick smack on their ass gets attention, but sometimes, it's a serious offense where they need to pay attention.

Imagine explaining that to the judge.

"But, Your HONOR, she needed a little straightening out so she would mind and do what I tell her to do!"

www.tonkoorevaar.be

Elvis knew what was up. (That's not a 'shop, by the way.)
 
2014-04-10 06:05:37 PM  

Warlordtrooper: What is the legal definition of "reasonable"  You cannot define something that is different for every single person on earth.


The thing about it is, you don't really have to define "reasonable" to know that fifty lashes doesn't fall into that category. But that's beside the point, as the legal definition is the same as the literal definition: within reason. This was not.
 
2014-04-10 06:05:37 PM  

lostcat: And when the kid grows up to be a gangsta, everyone is going to complain that the parents didn't care and let the kid do whatever he wanted growing up.


Nah I'll blame his POS parents for teaching him that violence is cool and an awesome way to resolve interpersonal disputes, a prerequisite for gangbanging.
 
2014-04-10 06:12:09 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: lostcat: And when the kid grows up to be a gangsta, everyone is going to complain that the parents didn't care and let the kid do whatever he wanted growing up.

Nah I'll blame his POS parents for teaching him that violence is cool and an awesome way to resolve interpersonal disputes, a prerequisite for gangbanging.

Just like John Wayne.
cdn0.sbnation.com
 
2014-04-10 06:19:36 PM  
I'm glad to see that the barbaric ritual of beating your kids as an alternative to actual real punishment is slowly becoming unexcepted in civilized society. Bravo!
 
2014-04-10 06:24:03 PM  
Hit that pefect
 
2014-04-10 06:29:53 PM  

Starshines: HotWingConspiracy: She then forces the child to say, repeatedly, that "it's not cool to be a gangster."

Obviously beating your kid and posting the act for the world to see is inadvisable on many levels, but I can endorse the sentiment here.

The best way to teach your kid that it's not cool to be a gangsta is to act like a violent thug and beat the shiat out of him.


Anything stops being cool once your parents are into it.
 
2014-04-10 06:36:13 PM  
When I was a kid, I was beat with paddles, switches, fingernails buried into my arm until it bled, belts, etc. I've never hit my kids. Ever. Beating kids teaches them to fear you from violence. Weird way to help someone who loves you, learn how to do things.Or what is acceptable.

My mom apologized many years later for beating the hell out of us.


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Interracial couple wife spanking. Desi and Lucy. Hello, American TV>
 
2014-04-10 06:52:42 PM  
My maternal grandmother used a razor strop on her eight kids--one swipe across the backs of the legs.

bigstoopidbruce: Republican creationist Baptist checking in here.  I have rarely on a few occasions used a belt very lightly spank my children - but only after a serious and intentional issue.  Most of the time, on those rare times I spank, I would use the palm of my hand.  I have maybe used a belt a dozen times in 18 years of parenthood with three kids.

Not to say folks shouldn't use a belt or switch, but I think you're better off saving that for those serious infractions.

As with any other punishment, you do not punish out of anger, you do not punish emotionally, and you never leave a mark.  The point is not to damage the child, the point is to get the child's attention in a big way.

This was not a normal parental punishment that got out of hand.  This was some sick group thing - like a class punishment project.  You're not hitting the kid because you're bigger than he is.  You're spanking him because you don't want him to grow up to be a savage.


This.  Though I've never used a belt on my son, just gave him a swat on the rear end with my hand if necessary.

/also a creationist baptist
//but not a republican
 
2014-04-10 07:01:38 PM  
ristst:
For the record (and before anyone else flames me):

The wife & I don't spank our daughter, we ground her.

/bolded so it can be seen easily


and that makes you a part of the problem.Kids these days have no respect for authority in no small part because wimps like you don't put fear (and therefore respect) for authority into them at a young age.  You probably also would have supported abolishing corporal punishment in schools if you could have.  Kids who respect their elders and authorities are the ones that do not grow up to shoot up the school or become vegan or any other bullshiat that only happens because weak parents (like you) couldn't teach them properly.

I make no secret that I think a punishment should deter a crime, and the pain of a spanking when I was growing up certainly curbed the worst behaviors I had quickly.  Your "time out" is an abomination.   My dad would take "time out" of his busy day to whup my ass when I deserved it.

I bolded the part I want you to see easily as well.
 
2014-04-10 07:15:44 PM  
51 years old. My dad used a wire hanger. Usually just a couple whacks over our pajama bottoms when my brother and I were making too much noise after bed-time. It stung.

As an adult who needs to be able to farking sleep to get up for work in the morning, I can almost sympathize. But 50 lashes is a going a little too Sharia.
 
2014-04-10 07:16:39 PM  

Miss Alexandra: My maternal grandmother used a razor strop on her eight kids--one swipe across the backs of the legs.

bigstoopidbruce: Republican creationist Baptist checking in here.  I have rarely on a few occasions used a belt very lightly spank my children - but only after a serious and intentional issue.  Most of the time, on those rare times I spank, I would use the palm of my hand.  I have maybe used a belt a dozen times in 18 years of parenthood with three kids.

Not to say folks shouldn't use a belt or switch, but I think you're better off saving that for those serious infractions.

As with any other punishment, you do not punish out of anger, you do not punish emotionally, and you never leave a mark.  The point is not to damage the child, the point is to get the child's attention in a big way.

This was not a normal parental punishment that got out of hand.  This was some sick group thing - like a class punishment project.  You're not hitting the kid because you're bigger than he is.  You're spanking him because you don't want him to grow up to be a savage.

This.  Though I've never used a belt on my son, just gave him a swat on the rear end with my hand if necessary.

/also a creationist baptist
//but not a republican


You left out "geocentrist"
 
2014-04-10 07:22:12 PM  
This is abuse. But how serious, as in, 'Is it bad enough that the children should be taken away?' serious. Or 'some anger management and family counselling could go a long way towards fixing this', serious. There isn't enough information for that.

I hope for all concerned that the CPS involved here has competent investigators who can determine if this is a pattern of beatings and neglect, or "normal" corporal punishment with the occasional "exceptional" beating. That may sound like some strange line to draw, but I think that many children who grew up in 50s-70s and lived with normal families can identify with that scenario. Especially if they had generally loving families. But if it's one of those households where children are generally unsupervised with beatings used to shut them up/terrorize them into compliance, then the parents should be jailed and hopefully loving families found to take the kids in. I will dream on their behalf. :(
 
2014-04-10 07:26:31 PM  

IronJelly: and that makes you a part of the problem.Kids these days have no respect for authority in no small part because wimps like you don't put fear (and therefore respect) for authority into them at a young age.  You probably also would have supported abolishing corporal punishment in schools if you could have.  Kids who respect their elders and authorities are the ones that do not grow up to shoot up the school or become vegan or any other bullshiat that only happens because weak parents (like you) couldn't teach them properly.

I make no secret that I think a punishment should deter a crime, and the pain of a spanking when I was growing up certainly curbed the worst behaviors I had quickly.  Your "time out" is an abomination.   My dad would take "time out" of his busy day to whup my ass when I deserved it.

I bolded the part I want you to see easily as well.


+10   Sheer brilliance

/love your username
 
2014-04-10 07:36:55 PM  

Cold_Sassy: Fuggin Bizzy: Warlordtrooper: just to play devils advocate here, isn't using a belt a rather normal form of punishment, at least it was when my mom was a kid.

...my mom used to discipline us with multiple blows from whatever weapon came to hand. I've always felt that was wrong, and resolved to do better for my kids.

My Mom did this exact thing too, paddle ball paddles, spatulas, belts, switches, you name it... and guess what?  We all lived and grew up to be successful adults.


I'd add "...in spite of the dysfunction we grew up with," but your story and mine are not necessarily the same.
 
2014-04-10 07:39:25 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: There is a difference between spanking as a continual punishment or surrogate punishment, and spanking to establish a line. I was spanked twice. That is all it took to know where the line was and not ever venture over it. I remember not really caring about being put in time-out or grounded. I didn't like it, but it was the fear of the spanking that kept me from going over the edge. I have seen very few kids who simply grounding and teaching them is effective.


I won't deny it was exactly the same with me growing up.  Fear kept us in line and it worked.

It's a little tougher with my kid being a girl in relation to spanking.  My sister didn't get spanked that I know of, and she was born in '55.  Didn't work that way with my brother and me.
 
2014-04-10 08:06:03 PM  

70Ford: Crotchrocket Slim: lostcat: And when the kid grows up to be a gangsta, everyone is going to complain that the parents didn't care and let the kid do whatever he wanted growing up.

Nah I'll blame his POS parents for teaching him that violence is cool and an awesome way to resolve interpersonal disputes, a prerequisite for gangbanging.
Just like John Wayne.
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Notice that the Duke is using an open hand and not a belt.

Also, are you sure we want to say beating our romantic love interests is a good thing?
/maybe I'm a little unclear on how ironically to read your post
 
2014-04-10 08:06:50 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: 70Ford: Crotchrocket Slim: lostcat: And when the kid grows up to be a gangsta, everyone is going to complain that the parents didn't care and let the kid do whatever he wanted growing up.

Nah I'll blame his POS parents for teaching him that violence is cool and an awesome way to resolve interpersonal disputes, a prerequisite for gangbanging.
Just like John Wayne.
[cdn0.sbnation.com image 320x240]

Notice that the Duke is using an open hand and not a belt.

Also, are you sure we want to say beating our romantic love interests is a good thing?
/maybe I'm a little unclear on how ironically to read your post


Or maybe not and I need to stop Farking on an iPhone
 
2014-04-10 09:09:19 PM  
+1 Thumbs up.  Was that wrong?
 
2014-04-10 10:41:30 PM  

lostcat: mediablitz: lostcat: And when the kid grows up to be a gangsta, everyone is going to complain that the parents didn't care and let the kid do whatever he wanted growing up.

Or, people will point to all the studies that show using violence on children produces violent results. You can "care" without being a violent asshole. Not sure why you think it is one or the other. Too many beating as a kid?

I'm not defending their actions. Just making the point that people like to talk about "absentee parenting" especially among families living below the poverty line. Here's a case where parents are trying to keep their kids in line, but they need some help on how best to accomplish their goals.


Yes, you were defending their actions, and you prove it with thinking beating your kids is "keeping them in line." You are a horrible human being, and your excuses don't fly.
 
2014-04-10 11:05:10 PM  
My mom used to beat me with a belt, but looked really regretful when she did.  Always made it seem as if it was hurting her at the same time it was hurting me (although she never expressed that).   OTOH, the snapping of the belt was a refrain in our house, if not a constant one.  She used it as a tool.  She was a depression era kid, one of eight (plus three still born).

I have a eight and ten year old kids.  I've never spanked them.  Once, I threatened one of them with spanking - I never felt bad about the threat, and I was ready to go through with it  with a level head.  I would have made a big production out of it, but wouldn't have used anything like a belt.  This instance is dwarfed by the other disciplinary events that stressed respect for others, with the threat of some consequences (one can easily remember from childhood that imagined consequences are much harsher than real ones).


I don't really have a point here.  But I suppose if there is one, it's that if you have to beat your child, you lack the intelligence or imagination necessary to outwit them.
 
2014-04-10 11:07:43 PM  

ristst: tiamet4: I'm not against corporal punishment and I was spanked with a belt as a kid. I remember my mom making the joke that I was free to call social services if I wanted. It's not an uncommon thing.

I worked with a guy (ex-military) that loved telling the story how he was gonna give his son an ass-whippin' for some reason, and his son threatened to call child services.

He said his answer was:  "Go ahead and call them.  You will be DEAD when they get here."
Son says "But you'll go to jail!"
He said "That may be....but you won't care because you will be DEAD."

I asked if he administered the ass-whippin'....the answer was yes.

/his son is now an officer in the Air Force


So...  vote republican?
 
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