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(The Raw Story)   Great moments in GOP women's outreach programs: Texas GOP adviser tells group that women aren't "significant thinkers". Apparently believes women only think about if that roast needs to go in at 350 or 375   (rawstory.com) divider line 133
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2014-04-10 01:10:09 PM  
An adviser to Greg Abbott, the Republican candidate for Texas governor, said this week that he had found no "evidence" to prove that any woman had been a "significant original thinker in any of the world's great philosophical traditions."

Sort of throws water on that whole Ayn Rand worshipping thing.

Given her 'philosophy' I'd want to discount her, too.  But still.
 
2014-04-10 01:14:03 PM  
if that roast needs to go in at 350 or 375

It goes in the slow-cooker, on low, ya putz.
 
2014-04-10 01:14:42 PM  
Pork? Beef? Lamb? What cut? How big? Marinaded? Brined? Crusted?
 
CDP [TotalFark]
2014-04-10 01:19:04 PM  
How much thinking does it take to get in the kitchen and make a sammich?
 
2014-04-10 01:22:56 PM  
My colleague Pythagoras' teacher was a woman.  Good cook, too.  Her dolmades were divine.
 
2014-04-10 01:26:41 PM  

Diogenes: My colleague Pythagoras' teacher was a woman.  Good cook, too.  Her dolmades were divine.



I bet she would have gotten along well with Sor Juana, who invented both Mexican Literature and Chicken Mole.
 
2014-04-10 01:26:51 PM  

Diogenes: An adviser to Greg Abbott, the Republican candidate for Texas governor, said this week that he had found no "evidence" to prove that any woman had been a "significant original thinker in any of the world's great philosophical traditions."

Sort of throws water on that whole Ayn Rand worshipping thing.

Given her 'philosophy' I'd want to discount her, too.  But still.


I think he means Rand here:

 he said that he could only recall one important female philosopher, "and she was not a significant thinker in the estimation of historians of philosophy."

Definitely Rand
 
2014-04-10 01:30:23 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Diogenes: An adviser to Greg Abbott, the Republican candidate for Texas governor, said this week that he had found no "evidence" to prove that any woman had been a "significant original thinker in any of the world's great philosophical traditions."

Sort of throws water on that whole Ayn Rand worshipping thing.

Given her 'philosophy' I'd want to discount her, too.  But still.

I think he means Rand here:

 he said that he could only recall one important female philosopher, "and she was not a significant thinker in the estimation of historians of philosophy."

Definitely Rand


If that's who he was referring to I think I'd have to concede that point to him.

But in terms of her current influence on the dittoheads in the GOP you'd think she was farking Socrates.
 
2014-04-10 01:32:50 PM  
According to Murray, the statistics were flawed because "many women prefer to stay home with their children," or choose jobs "such as sociology, liberal arts or psychology, that pay less in the labor market."

It would have been truly funny if he'd thrown Philosophy in there.  That would be good trolling.
 
2014-04-10 01:34:54 PM  
Marie Curie has an enema prepared for the gentleman

/it should leave him with a healthy glow
 
2014-04-10 01:38:46 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Marie Curie has an enema prepared for the gentleman

/it should leave him with a healthy glow


Olga Hahn-Neurath
Rose Rand
Margaret Fuller
Elizabeth Palmer Peabody
Emily Dickinson
Simone de Beauvoir
Margaret MacDonald
Ruth Barcan Marcus
Susan Mendus
Iris Murdoch
Teresa of Avila
Mary Wollstonecraft
Ariel Durant

And that's not even going back all that far.
 
2014-04-10 01:42:11 PM  
 
2014-04-10 01:46:32 PM  
Lita Ford
Joan Jett
Cherie Currie
Sandy West
 
2014-04-10 01:51:36 PM  

vernonFL: Lita Ford
Joan Jett
Cherie Currie
Sandy West


Wendy O Williams
 
2014-04-10 01:55:08 PM  
"And," he continued, "don't get me started on how few prominent black industrialists there were in the United States during the 18th and 19th centuries."
 
2014-04-10 02:07:12 PM  
Mary Warnock has significantly more influence on the way British society thinks of itself than any living male philosopher. She is a champion of a woman's right to philosophise. A veteran of royal commissions and committees of inquiry, she has published (among much else) The Uses of Philosophy (1992), and Women Philosophers (1996).

Hypatia of Alexandria: C370-415AD
Follower of Plotinius who developed neo-Platonism at Alexandria from about 400 to her death in 415. She was so well-known, apparently, that correspondence addressed only to "The Philosopher" is said to have reached her.
Also a leading mathematician and astronomer, she is thought to have taught ideas relating to different levels of reality and humanity's ability to understand them. She seems to have believed that everything in the natural world emanates from "the one" - and that human beings lack the mental capacity fully to comprehend ult imate reality.

Elizabeth Anscombe: 1919-2001
Oxbridge-rooted academic principally concerned with defining the actual nature of phenomena such as mind and morality, Gertrude Elizabeth Margaret Anscombe has been described as the pre-eminent British philosopher of the 20th century. She had intellectual roots not only in classical philosophy but also in Roman Catholicism and in the modern philosophy of Wittgenstein and Frege. A friend of Wittgenstein, she produced the definitive (and still unrevised) translation of his Philosophical Investigations in 1953, as well theIntroduction to Wittgenstein's Tractatus in 1959. Her Intention (1957) is considered to be the founding document of modern "action theory". An analytical philosopher of exceptional rigour, she allegedly once said to A J Ayer: "If you didn't talk so quickly, people wouldn't think you were so clever"; to which the philosopher replied: "If you didn't talk so slowly, people wouldn't think you were so profound."
 
2014-04-10 02:08:12 PM  
given what the white house pays the women who work there, i though democrats were waging the war against women.
 
2014-04-10 02:30:18 PM  

SlothB77: given what the white house pays the women who work there, i though democrats were waging the war against women.


I can't believe he went back in time just to create the federal employee GS pay scale.  Why can't he ever use his magical powers for good?
 
2014-04-10 02:32:22 PM  

SlothB77: i though


First I was considering saying "not apparently" but then I was certain.
 
2014-04-10 02:34:04 PM  

SlothB77: given what the white house pays the women who work there, i though democrats were waging the war against women.


Thanks for this. I think it was yesterday but you nearly made sense in a post. Glad to see your back to being you. There's some good discussion in the Boehner thread about trolls that you should probably jump in on btw.
 
2014-04-10 02:34:07 PM  
 i though democrats were waging the war against women.

that is because you are a known liar
 
2014-04-10 02:37:02 PM  

mrshowrules: Here's a few hundred

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_philosophers


Catherine of Alexandria:

As a young adult, she visited her contemporary, the Roman Emperor Maxentius, and attempted to convince him of the moral error in persecuting Christians for not worshipping idols. The emperor arranged for a plethora of the best pagan philosophers and orators to dispute with her, hoping that they would refute her pro-Christian arguments, but Catherine won the debate. Several of her adversaries, conquered by her eloquence, declared themselves Christians and were at once put to death.

Well, that's one way to end a debate. I think we should bring this tradition back for Presidential debates.
 
2014-04-10 02:38:42 PM  

Lando Lincoln: mrshowrules: Here's a few hundred

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_philosophers

Catherine of Alexandria:

As a young adult, she visited her contemporary, the Roman Emperor Maxentius, and attempted to convince him of the moral error in persecuting Christians for not worshipping idols. The emperor arranged for a plethora of the best pagan philosophers and orators to dispute with her, hoping that they would refute her pro-Christian arguments, but Catherine won the debate. Several of her adversaries, conquered by her eloquence, declared themselves Christians and were at once put to death.

Well, that's one way to end a debate. I think we should bring this tradition back for Presidential debates.


But we'd slaughter a whole generation of republicans.......
 
2014-04-10 02:38:47 PM  

SlothB77: i thought Democrats were waging the war against women.


Thinking something and wanting to believe in something are not the same thing.
 
2014-04-10 02:41:59 PM  
So this guy says something ignorant about women's history and liberals (like me) take him to task.  But do any conservative or GOP women disagree with him?  Enough to weaken their devotion to the GOP?  TFA doesn't have any but then that's sort of RawStory's thing.

If they're not put off, then it doesn't matter what he says... it is a non-event.  Maybe I'm just cynical.
 
2014-04-10 02:48:58 PM  

CDP: How much thinking does it take to get in the kitchen and make a sammich?


Depends on the quality of the sandwich.  In Pittsburgh, they put french fries on the damn thing and treat it like a culinary innovation.  They might ask themselves, if this is such a great sandwich, then why does only one regional chain do it?
 
2014-04-10 02:53:36 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Thinking something and wanting to believe in something are not the same thing.


he doesn't actually think that

he is lying in order to generate attention

i hope this helps

namaste
 
2014-04-10 02:55:41 PM  

Lando Lincoln: mrshowrules: Here's a few hundred

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_philosophers

Catherine of Alexandria:

As a young adult, she visited her contemporary, the Roman Emperor Maxentius, and attempted to convince him of the moral error in persecuting Christians for not worshipping idols. The emperor arranged for a plethora of the best pagan philosophers and orators to dispute with her, hoping that they would refute her pro-Christian arguments, but Catherine won the debate. Several of her adversaries, conquered by her eloquence, declared themselves Christians and were at once put to death.

Well, that's one way to end a debate. I think we should bring this tradition back for Presidential debates.


She sounds pretty impressive but could she cook?
 
2014-04-10 03:05:50 PM  

Tigger: Lando Lincoln: mrshowrules: Here's a few hundred

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_philosophers

Catherine of Alexandria:

As a young adult, she visited her contemporary, the Roman Emperor Maxentius, and attempted to convince him of the moral error in persecuting Christians for not worshipping idols. The emperor arranged for a plethora of the best pagan philosophers and orators to dispute with her, hoping that they would refute her pro-Christian arguments, but Catherine won the debate. Several of her adversaries, conquered by her eloquence, declared themselves Christians and were at once put to death.

Well, that's one way to end a debate. I think we should bring this tradition back for Presidential debates.

But we'd slaughter a whole generation of republicans.......


You say that like its a bad thing
 
2014-04-10 03:07:58 PM  

SlothB77: given what the white house pays the women who work there, i though democrats were waging the war against women.


Umm the White House doesn't actual set pay for people. They don't set the pay scale. You know nothing don't you?
 
2014-04-10 03:09:02 PM  

factoryconnection: So this guy says something ignorant about women's history and liberals (like me) take him to task.  But do any conservative or GOP women disagree with him?  Enough to weaken their devotion to the GOP?  TFA doesn't have any but then that's sort of RawStory's thing.

If they're not put off, then it doesn't matter what he says... it is a non-event.  Maybe I'm just cynical.


GOP women won't be the slightest bit offput; they'll generally agree with him. CSB: I met a woman who advised that Hillary could never be president because women lack the capacity to be president "due to their emotional instability" among other things. It's unbelievable enough that anyone said that, but.. a woman? It's incredible how these people must "think."
 
2014-04-10 03:11:32 PM  

SlothB77: given what the white house pays the women who work there, i though democrats were waging the war against women.


And by "White House" you mean the pay scale created by congress:
Executive Schedule (5 U.S.C. §§ 5311-5318) refers to the system of salaries given to the highest-ranked appointed positions in the executive branch of the U.S. government. The President of the United States, an elected official, appoints incumbents to these positions, most of them with the advice and consent of the Senate. They include members of the President's Cabinet as well as other subcabinet policy makers. There are five pay rates within the Executive Schedule, usually denoted with a Roman numeral with I being the highest level and V the lowest.

Congress lists the positions eligible for the Executive Schedule and the corresponding level. Congress also gives the president the ability to grant Executive Schedule IV and V status to no more than 34 employees not listed in the law.[1]


At what point do you finally go "Hey these Republicans talking points have been bullshiat the last 1000 times maybe they are lying to me?"

Aren't you tired of being lied to and then repeating that lie and people showing you are wrong?
 
2014-04-10 03:11:43 PM  
It's not so much what this butthole said that worries me. It's the mouthbreathing Inbred Jeds in his home district that go "YUHH!" and vote for him that we should be afraid of.
 
2014-04-10 03:14:29 PM  

SlothB77: given what the white house pays the women who work there, i though democrats were waging the war against women.


Wasnt this debunked already?
 
2014-04-10 03:15:01 PM  
So it actually was an over-zealous staffer this time
 
2014-04-10 03:16:25 PM  

SlothB77: ...i though[t]...


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-04-10 03:16:56 PM  
Roasts should be cooked low and slow.
 
2014-04-10 03:17:31 PM  

Heliovdrake: SlothB77: given what the white house pays the women who work there, i though democrats were waging the war against women.

Wasnt this debunked already?


Yes, and so was Benghazi, the IRS scandal, death panels etc.  Facts have a known liberal bias and are not to be trusted.  Study it out.
 
2014-04-10 03:17:43 PM  

Corvus: SlothB77: given what the white house pays the women who work there, i though democrats were waging the war against women.

Umm the White House doesn't actual set pay for people. They don't set the pay scale. You know nothing don't you?


Dude, he's a sloth. They barely have enough energy to regulate their body temperature, never mind think.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-04-10 03:21:08 PM  

UncomfortableSilence: Heliovdrake: SlothB77: given what the white house pays the women who work there, i though democrats were waging the war against women.

Wasnt this debunked already?

Yes, and so was Benghazi, the IRS scandal, death panels etc.  Facts have a known liberal bias and are not to be trusted.  Study it out.


Debunking does NOT prevent them from repeating it.  There is no care about lies or intellectual dishonesty right now...
 
2014-04-10 03:25:09 PM  
Since we're all on computers, let's not forget who invented the first computer-implemented algorithm.

www.femmescelebres.com
 
2014-04-10 03:25:29 PM  

Heliovdrake: SlothB77: given what the white house pays the women who work there, i though democrats were waging the war against women.

Wasnt this debunked already?


About 10 times.
 
2014-04-10 03:26:08 PM  
Grace Murray Hopper (December 9, 1906 - January 1, 1992) was an American computer scientist and United States Navy rear admiral. A pioneer in the field, she was one of the first programmers of the Harvard Mark I computer, and developed the first compiler for a computer programming language.] She popularized the idea of machine-independent programming languages, which led to the development of COBOL, one of the first modern programming languages. She is credited with popularizing the term "debugging" for fixing computer glitches (inspired by an actual moth removed from the computer). Owing to the breadth of her accomplishments and her naval rank, she is sometimes referred to as "Amazing Grace".The U.S. Navy destroyer USS Hopper (DDG-70) is named for her, as was the Cray XE6 "Hopper" supercomputer at NERSC.
 
2014-04-10 03:26:15 PM  
So, basically:

1. Ignore the contributions of women
2. Conclude that the fact that you're unfamiliar with the contributions of women means they don't contribute anything.
3. Use 2 to justify 1.
 
2014-04-10 03:26:31 PM  

Diogenes: But in terms of her current influence on the dittoheads in the GOP you'd think she was farking Socrates.


Fark is not your personal erotica site.

/sry, had to
 
2014-04-10 03:26:54 PM  

menschenfresser: factoryconnection: So this guy says something ignorant about women's history and liberals (like me) take him to task.  But do any conservative or GOP women disagree with him?  Enough to weaken their devotion to the GOP?  TFA doesn't have any but then that's sort of RawStory's thing.

If they're not put off, then it doesn't matter what he says... it is a non-event.  Maybe I'm just cynical.

GOP women won't be the slightest bit offput; they'll generally agree with him. CSB: I met a woman who advised that Hillary could never be president because women lack the capacity to be president "due to their emotional instability" among other things. It's unbelievable enough that anyone said that, but.. a woman? It's incredible how these people must "think."


Lifelong brainwashing sucks.
 
2014-04-10 03:27:15 PM  

Diogenes: According to Murray, the statistics were flawed because "many women prefer to stay home with their children," or choose jobs "such as sociology, liberal arts or psychology, that pay less in the labor market."

It would have been truly funny if he'd thrown Philosophy in there.  That would be good trolling.


Having spent decades in a male dominated industry, I saw how women were passed over for promotion because "the men" wouldn't work for a female boss. Or the woman was a "pushy b*tch", while the man was success driven.

The "stats" conveniently overlook the history of a male dominated society that purposely excluded women. WWII was the first change to that, but there is still a long way to go.

Strictly looking at numbers overlooks the true facts of the issue. I'm not surprised Republicans are ignorant regarding that point.
 
2014-04-10 03:27:16 PM  

d23: Debunking does NOT prevent them from repeating it.


Indeed, it makes them more certain that they are right.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-04-10 03:27:53 PM  

Fast Moon: So, basically:

1. Ignore the contributions of women
2. Conclude that the fact that you're unfamiliar with the contributions of women means they don't contribute anything.
3. Use 2 to justify 1.


Using "plain folks" appeal and just plain ignorance to advance an opinion is pretty much item 1 in the playbook right now.  They have no book learnin', so the haven't lost their common sense, right?  It applies from everything to physics to philosophy, right?
 
2014-04-10 03:28:38 PM  

Heliovdrake: SlothB77: given what the white house pays the women who work there, i though democrats were waging the war against women.

Wasnt this debunked already?


You think SlothB77 is going to admit he was wrong??!?!

That's funny sh*t right there...
 
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