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(The Street)   Tech editor declares "Apple's iPhone 6 Will Demolish Android" because it will have a bigger screen than the iPhone 5   (thestreet.com) divider line 109
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2014-04-10 10:39:28 AM
High time we trotted out the religeosis tag for the FanBoys.
Doods, 4+4 does not equal 5Jobs as you have been told and you believe, 'cause it is word.
 
2014-04-10 10:56:13 AM
I, for one, am proud to say that I have no idea what anything snocone said means.
 
2014-04-10 11:05:36 AM
It's smart for Apple to release a larger phone, at least as an option, as it's clear that's what the market wants. That being said, iOS is in need of a major overhaul in terms of design. The 'bunch of icons in a grid' thing is looking very dated. Then again, Android doesn't look much better in a lot of ways, and has its own usability issues. Windows Phone is blowing them both out of the water in terms of OS design and interface. I just hope MS manages to make huge strides in user base over the next year so that the smaller and niche app developers stop ignoring the platform. I just bought my first Android phone, and it's OK, but I'd much rather go back to Windows Phone if a couple apps I need for work and Google Voice become available for it.
 
2014-04-10 11:05:39 AM

Calmamity: I, for one, am proud to say that I have no idea what anything snocone said means.


I think it has to do with the Time Cube
 
2014-04-10 11:11:14 AM
and what's one of the biggest complaints about iphone re: droidphones?  the screen is too small.
 
2014-04-10 11:17:48 AM
That seemed objective, in a Fox News kind of objectiveness.
 
2014-04-10 11:45:41 AM
I have enough trouble already digging my phone out of my deep pockets, don't want or need a phablet.
 
2014-04-10 11:45:59 AM
Or, I can keep using my Samsung SII, which is just about the perfect phone, and not feel the need to buy a shiny new gadget ever year or two.
 
2014-04-10 11:47:43 AM

TuteTibiImperes: It's smart for Apple to release a larger phone, at least as an option, as it's clear that's what the market wants. That being said, iOS is in need of a major overhaul in terms of design. The 'bunch of icons in a grid' thing is looking very dated. Then again, Android doesn't look much better in a lot of ways, and has its own usability issues. Windows Phone is blowing them both out of the water in terms of OS design and interface. I just hope MS manages to make huge strides in user base over the next year so that the smaller and niche app developers stop ignoring the platform. I just bought my first Android phone, and it's OK, but I'd much rather go back to Windows Phone if a couple apps I need for work and Google Voice become available for it.


Too bad it's about 3 years too late. The Galaxy series has had larger screens for years. 

I'd agree with the Windows interface, but the total lack of apps really kills any windows device. HTC's Sense 6 is a brilliant take on a mobile OS. 

Apple as a company is in trouble. Several hardcore 'mac heads' (including my sister) that I know, just bailed from the iPhone to Droid - and I've had them actually say to me, "I'll never go back, I didn't realize how much better it is".
 
2014-04-10 11:50:45 AM
As a droid user who switched to iPhone when T-Mobile was giving it away for free practically, I have to say while the long battery life and stability is awesome, as well as the LTE speed, the fact that I cannot download an mp3 from a website that's giving it away, that it won't play avi or mkv files from my computer, is more than enough for me to switch the hell back as soon as I can afford to.

Will miss the battery life..
 
2014-04-10 11:51:45 AM

phimuskapsi: TuteTibiImperes: It's smart for Apple to release a larger phone, at least as an option, as it's clear that's what the market wants. That being said, iOS is in need of a major overhaul in terms of design. The 'bunch of icons in a grid' thing is looking very dated. Then again, Android doesn't look much better in a lot of ways, and has its own usability issues. Windows Phone is blowing them both out of the water in terms of OS design and interface. I just hope MS manages to make huge strides in user base over the next year so that the smaller and niche app developers stop ignoring the platform. I just bought my first Android phone, and it's OK, but I'd much rather go back to Windows Phone if a couple apps I need for work and Google Voice become available for it.

Too bad it's about 3 years too late. The Galaxy series has had larger screens for years. 

I'd agree with the Windows interface, but the total lack of apps really kills any windows device. HTC's Sense 6 is a brilliant take on a mobile OS. 

Apple as a company is in trouble. Several hardcore 'mac heads' (including my sister) that I know, just bailed from the iPhone to Droid - and I've had them actually say to me, "I'll never go back, I didn't realize how much better it is".


Like any religious following, they will always have devoted followers.
 
2014-04-10 11:51:46 AM
 If Apple wanted to actively pursue Android-like marketshare it would and easily could have done it a long time ago.

That's is some grade A fanboyism.
 
2014-04-10 11:52:05 AM

ThatBillmanGuy: As a droid user who switched to iPhone when T-Mobile was giving it away for free practically, I have to say while the long battery life and stability is awesome, as well as the LTE speed, the fact that I cannot download an mp3 from a website that's giving it away, that it won't play avi or mkv files from my computer, is more than enough for me to switch the hell back as soon as I can afford to.

Will miss the battery life..


Though, if I could find out how to jailbreak it, that could change things.
 
2014-04-10 11:54:33 AM

Empty H: Like any religious following, they will always have devoted followers.


A leader without followers is just a guy taking a walk.
 
2014-04-10 11:54:41 AM

Cymbal: I have enough trouble already digging my phone out of my deep pockets, don't want or need a phablet.


This.  The only way I can see a phablet working is if it came packaged with a really high quality earpiece and wearable interface like google glasses or a bluetooth watch.  Even better would be if the phone was a stand alone ear piece with good voice commands that could interface with a regular tablet of your choice for more in depth features.  I don't want a huge screen unless there are easier ways to carry it around and use it. Absolutely outstanding would be a tablet or even laptop form factor screen and battery that a phone could completely dock into when you want a larger screen and more input options.
 
2014-04-10 11:54:48 AM
I harken back to last season's NHL playoffs when my Toronto Maple Leafs held that lead over the Boston Bruins. If the Leafs won they would have advanced to the second round of the postseason. But the Bruins, while concerned, did not panic. They kept their heads down and, even as the texts poured in congratulating me on the anticipated Leafs win, I knew the game wasn't over. Boston tied and promptly won the game in overtime, leaving Toronto stunned.

Not the best analogy. Unlikely all Android manufacturers are going to suddenly drool and shout "POTATO!"
 
2014-04-10 12:00:44 PM

PartTimeBuddha: Empty H: Like any religious following, they will always have devoted followers.

A leader without followers is just a guy taking a walk.


This. So much this. Since Apple is filled with 'devoted followers' they've become lost since Jobs death.
 
2014-04-10 12:00:46 PM
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2014-04-10 12:02:23 PM
Meh, the smaller screens on the iPhone 5 are actually better than the larger Android screen on the size issue alone. There is such thing as too much screen and the designers at Apple are very well aware of this.
 
2014-04-10 12:03:34 PM
I never even considered the iPhone because I decided a large screen was one of my primary requirements. If Apple had a large screen phone I certainly would have considered it.

My guess is that the large screen will create a bump for iPhone.
 
2014-04-10 12:04:18 PM
The Android vs iOS debate is beating a dead horse at this point, so I'll skip all that.

But, this article was pretty terribly written. The use of "stop, collaborate, and listen" in any paid article, should see the writer taken out to the stocks for 2 weeks public humiliation.
 
2014-04-10 12:04:43 PM

zipdog: Meh, the smaller screens on the iPhone 5 are actually better than the larger Android screen on the size issue alone. There is such thing as too much screen and the designers at Apple are very well aware of this.


Uhhh. No. This may have been true with the earlier big Android screens, but DPI on Android devices passed 'Retina' a loooong time ago.

images.gizmag.com
 
2014-04-10 12:09:32 PM

styckx: That's is some grade A fanboyism.


That entire article is full of "This bad reality is actually a good sign for the future!" crap.  He must have a belt-unit generating the Jobs Reality Distortion Field.
 
2014-04-10 12:09:57 PM
No, it won't.  If fact, any bombastic phrase like that will always be wrong.  Apple is successful because their phones provide the best integrated experience.  Other companies are successful because they cater to niches, spec monkeys and people with short attention spans.
 
2014-04-10 12:14:35 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It's smart for Apple to release a larger phone, at least as an option, as it's clear that's what the market wants. That being said, iOS is in need of a major overhaul in terms of design. The 'bunch of icons in a grid' thing is looking very dated. Then again, Android doesn't look much better in a lot of ways, and has its own usability issues. Windows Phone is blowing them both out of the water in terms of OS design and interface. I just hope MS manages to make huge strides in user base over the next year so that the smaller and niche app developers stop ignoring the platform. I just bought my first Android phone, and it's OK, but I'd much rather go back to Windows Phone if a couple apps I need for work and Google Voice become available for it.


Google will never release a decent app for Windows Phone. They  did  have an awesome YouTube app once upon a time, but then for whatever stupid reason "updated" it to just be a wrapper for the mobile page and it runs like ass. I think it says something about MS that they seem to be doing their damnedest to release decent apps on other mobile platforms while the other two biggies either won't play or put out something just barely good enough and leave it at that.

/Loves my new Icon
//Can't wait to play with WP8.1
 
2014-04-10 12:29:14 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Or, I can keep using my Samsung SII, which is just about the perfect phone, and not feel the need to buy a shiny new gadget ever year or two.


I'm the same way. Not in ay rush to upgrade, but I know I will need to soon my phone is starting to crack at the buttons. I used to work with a guy that would sometimes upgrade his phone on a monthly basis. He would order phones that had not been relesed yet in the US. He would show us his new phone that looked like his old phone but he had to drop $300 on it because it was blue and his other was red.
 
2014-04-10 12:30:49 PM
I've been wanting to switch from IOS for over a year.  After months of consideration and seeing what came out of MWC, I'm making the switch next month.  Sorry Apple, I'm done with you and especially iTunes.
 
2014-04-10 12:31:23 PM

Calmamity: I, for one, am proud to say that I have no idea what anything snocone said means.


He was just summing up the article.

Great job.
 
2014-04-10 12:32:23 PM

TuteTibiImperes: It's smart for Apple to release a larger phone, at least as an option, as it's clear that's what the market wants. That being said, iOS is in need of a major overhaul in terms of design. The 'bunch of icons in a grid' thing is looking very dated. Then again, Android doesn't look much better in a lot of ways, and has its own usability issues. Windows Phone is blowing them both out of the water in terms of OS design and interface. I just hope MS manages to make huge strides in user base over the next year so that the smaller and niche app developers stop ignoring the platform. I just bought my first Android phone, and it's OK, but I'd much rather go back to Windows Phone if a couple apps I need for work and Google Voice become available for it.


I have a clown car for my icons, and they run through it to keep me entertained.  It's the wave of the future.
 
2014-04-10 12:32:52 PM

bighairyguy: No, it won't.  If fact, any bombastic phrase like that will always be wrong.  Apple is successful because their phones provide the best integrated experience.  Other companies are successful because they cater to niches, spec monkeys and people with short attention spans.


Niche

www.rwm-inc.com

Not Niche

cdn1.appleinsider.com
 
2014-04-10 12:34:40 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Or, I can keep using my Samsung SII, which is just about the perfect phone, and not feel the need to buy a shiny new gadget ever year or two.


S2 is almost 3 years old and the jump from an S2 to "just" an S4 (2 years) is huge.  I don't understand people, if you have a subsidized plan you are a fool not to upgrade at 21 months or 24 months. All you are doing is allowing the carrier to make even more money.
 
2014-04-10 12:43:53 PM

TNel: S2 is almost 3 years old and the jump from an S2 to "just" an S4 (2 years) is huge. I don't understand people, if you have a subsidized plan you are a fool not to upgrade at 21 months or 24 months. All you are doing is allowing the carrier to make even more money.


I do pay as you go. All a contract does is give you a high-interest loan on a smartphone while locking you into one carrier. Some of the plans probably make sense if you get a discount through work or have a family, but for me, it just doesn't make sense.
 
2014-04-10 12:48:40 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Or, I can keep using my Samsung SII, which is just about the perfect phone, and not feel the need to buy a shiny new gadget ever year or two.


What variant?  I have the Epic (sprint)  and it makes me stabby from time to time.  If HTC would stop encrypting their loaders I would be back in a heartbeat.  I do not root every phone but I want to be able to if I feel like it.  I've had HTC, Samsung and Lenovo android phones and HTC has seemed better in just about every way except for the loader issue which is a No-Go as far as I'm concerned. 


/Let me take this moment to add "Congratulations Sprint, you are driving me away after 8 years!  I was not hard to please, but you still managed to fail!"
 
2014-04-10 12:50:24 PM

Tigger: bighairyguy: No, it won't.  If fact, any bombastic phrase like that will always be wrong.  Apple is successful because their phones provide the best integrated experience.  Other companies are successful because they cater to niches, spec monkeys and people with short attention spans.

Niche

[www.rwm-inc.com image 646x450]

Not Niche

[cdn1.appleinsider.com image 503x247]


Your chart does not the number of handset models company sells during those periods.  Apple has 2 or 3 on the market at any given time, catering to a broad segment of the market.  Everyone else has dozens, each one with a different amplified single feature or some other gimmick, catering to a niche in the market. The non-Apple lines are sums of niches.
 
2014-04-10 12:53:52 PM

bighairyguy: No, it won't.  If fact, any bombastic phrase like that will always be wrong.  Apple is successful because their phones provide the best integrated experience.  Other companies are successful because they cater to niches, spec monkeys and people with short attention spans.


You sound totally rational, and not at all unreasonable.

/said no one, ever
 
2014-04-10 12:55:29 PM

fst_creeper: What variant?


I honestly don't know. I bought it in Asia jailbroken so it's not tied to a carrier.
 
2014-04-10 12:55:58 PM

bighairyguy: Tigger: bighairyguy: No, it won't.  If fact, any bombastic phrase like that will always be wrong.  Apple is successful because their phones provide the best integrated experience.  Other companies are successful because they cater to niches, spec monkeys and people with short attention spans.

Niche

[www.rwm-inc.com image 646x450]

Not Niche

[cdn1.appleinsider.com image 503x247]

Your chart does not the number of handset models company sells during those periods.  Apple has 2 or 3 on the market at any given time, catering to a broad segment of the market.  Everyone else has dozens, each one with a different amplified single feature or some other gimmick, catering to a niche in the market. The non-Apple lines are sums of niches.


I don't particularly have a dog in the fight other than being anti dumb shiat. The position was "Samsung is a niche marketer of mobile phones". That's a totally farking ridiculous notion.

cdn.macrumors.com
 
2014-04-10 12:56:21 PM
Apple does that not only improves on, but redefines the crap the "competition" throws against the wall.
That's what Apple did to the artist formerly known as RIM.


So Apple is going to do a RIM job on Android?
 
2014-04-10 12:56:55 PM
I am looking to try a Nexus 5.  Any love/hate on this phone?  I am tired of the iOS and I am looking to try something new.
 
2014-04-10 12:57:57 PM

ThatBillmanGuy: ThatBillmanGuy: As a droid user who switched to iPhone when T-Mobile was giving it away for free practically, I have to say while the long battery life and stability is awesome, as well as the LTE speed, the fact that I cannot download an mp3 from a website that's giving it away, that it won't play avi or mkv files from my computer, is more than enough for me to switch the hell back as soon as I can afford to.

Will miss the battery life..

Though, if I could find out how to jailbreak it, that could change things.


You should look into some of the new Droids. I got a Droid Mini, battery easily lasts all day even with heavy use, and there was another Droid I looked at that the salesmen claimed would last up to 2 days.
 
2014-04-10 12:59:51 PM
The writing of the article makes me want to demolish my computer.
 
2014-04-10 01:01:39 PM

skinbubble: I am looking to try a Nexus 5.  Any love/hate on this phone?  I am tired of the iOS and I am looking to try something new.


I've had it for a few months.

Great phone, but battery life could use improvement. Or they could have went with an OLED screen that may have been less power consuming.

I get a full work day out of it if I use the screen a lot. 12-16hrs if I'm deskbound and using the office phone and Laptop for most functions.
 
2014-04-10 01:02:49 PM

phimuskapsi: zipdog: Meh, the smaller screens on the iPhone 5 are actually better than the larger Android screen on the size issue alone. There is such thing as too much screen and the designers at Apple are very well aware of this.

Uhhh. No. This may have been true with the earlier big Android screens, but DPI on Android devices passed 'Retina' a loooong time ago.


Android doesn't use the word retina so obviously the displays suck.
 
2014-04-10 01:04:59 PM

bighairyguy: No, it won't.  If fact, any bombastic phrase like that will always be wrong.


Most click bait is.
 
2014-04-10 01:05:59 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: I do pay as you go. All a contract does is give you a high-interest loan on a smartphone while locking you into one carrier. Some of the plans probably make sense if you get a discount through work or have a family, but for me, it just doesn't make sense.


It's actually a no interest loan but to each their own.  This came up a few days ago let me copy and paste.

"Let's use my family plan with 4 smartphones. Using real numbers not some imaginary crap. My plan costs $230 a month for 4 smartphones. I can go down to the family value which takes away subsidies for $160 a month. $70 savings per month, sounds huge! So currently I get all of our phones on Black Friday for 99cents for whatever the new Galaxy phone is so phones right now cost me $4.

$70 for 24 months (upgrade window) divided by 4 phones is $420 per line. "

So I'm paying $421 every 2 years for a new phone.  I'm happy with that since I don't have to pay for a phone out of pocket for $600+ by paying a little extra every month.  Would you rather pay $70 a month or $2,400 all at once?
 
2014-04-10 01:06:56 PM

Cymbal: I have enough trouble already digging my phone out of my deep pockets, don't want or need a phablet.


What he said. If I cant hold it in one hand and reach all of the icons with my thumb, Its Too Big!

Aint nobody got time for that two handed thumb twiddling crap...
 
2014-04-10 01:07:34 PM

Tigger: bighairyguy: Tigger: bighairyguy: No, it won't.  If fact, any bombastic phrase like that will always be wrong.  Apple is successful because their phones provide the best integrated experience.  Other companies are successful because they cater to niches, spec monkeys and people with short attention spans.

Niche

[www.rwm-inc.com image 646x450]

Not Niche

[cdn1.appleinsider.com image 503x247]

Your chart does not the number of handset models company sells during those periods.  Apple has 2 or 3 on the market at any given time, catering to a broad segment of the market.  Everyone else has dozens, each one with a different amplified single feature or some other gimmick, catering to a niche in the market. The non-Apple lines are sums of niches.

I don't particularly have a dog in the fight other than being anti dumb shiat. The position was "Samsung is a niche marketer of mobile phones". That's a totally farking ridiculous notion.

[cdn.macrumors.com image 600x370]


I'm not saying they are a bad company or their products suck, I'm just pointing out where they live in the marketplace by who gives them money.  We should all be so successful.
 
2014-04-10 01:12:16 PM

Heraclitus: Cymbal: I have enough trouble already digging my phone out of my deep pockets, don't want or need a phablet.

What he said. If I cant hold it in one hand and reach all of the icons with my thumb, Its Too Big!

Aint nobody got time for that two handed thumb twiddling crap...


But a larger phone would be a lot easier to get out of your pocket since it fills the pocket more so it's easier to grab.  I wear dress pants daily and I have zero problems with my S3 and my brothers Note2 getting it in and out of my pockets.  Maybe stop wearing skinny jeans and this problem would go away.

You do know that the new Note you can minimize the screen so it's easy to use one hand if you want right?  I never understood why people want smartphones but only care about texting and calling.  If that's what you want get a dumb phone.
 
2014-04-10 01:16:38 PM
I went from an iPhone 5, to an HTC One, and I don't have any regrets.
I like Apple stuff, but the iPhone is way over-hyped.
It's too small (that's just my opinion), not enough RAM, and iOS is a clusterf*ck wall of icons.
 
2014-04-10 01:19:24 PM

Virtual Pariah: skinbubble: I am looking to try a Nexus 5.  Any love/hate on this phone?  I am tired of the iOS and I am looking to try something new.

I've had it for a few months.

Great phone, but battery life could use improvement. Or they could have went with an OLED screen that may have been less power consuming.

I get a full work day out of it if I use the screen a lot. 12-16hrs if I'm deskbound and using the office phone and Laptop for most functions.


Thanks for your info!
 
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