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2014-04-10 02:57:17 PM  
Can't we all just intermarry, make beautiful cream colored babies, and be done with this already.
 
2014-04-10 02:59:23 PM  
It's true. The suburb I live in is a post-war GI-bill exurb made of newly flush-with-cash families fleeing the cities once the wartime economic constraints ended, freeing them to live the American Dream.

Key features:
# racial covenants on property deed prohibiting non-whites (except domestic help) from remaining on the property after sundown (in the entire metro area in that year, 99% of all new residential construction had these covenants)
# no public transit
# new industries relocated from the urban heart - for example, a new Ford assembly plant in the neighborhood (since redeveloped into a shopping mall)

Contrasted with:
# wartime housing, which was racially mixed during the war, became subsidized public housing  mostly populated by blacks, since they couldn't move out due to racial covenants above
# almost all wartime industry shut down or relocated to the burbs, leaving all those in public housing struggling to find work that was inaccessibly far away or not accessible via public transit.

And there you have it. The wartime economy mobilized an entire country, moving people around the nation, then sorted everyone according to race once the war was over.
 
2014-04-10 02:59:48 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: JerseyTim: But but but no institutionalized racism.

Other than affirmative action and hiring quotas that assume that just because you're not white you're unable to compete.  Nothing like institutionalized racism under the guise of "helping".  Nothing like knowing that because you're white you're just so damned good that somebody needs to hold you back so "those people" can get out from under your boot.


You're adorable.

Get back to me when you get stopped for Driving While White.
 
2014-04-10 03:00:54 PM  
Gee, it's almost as if people live in areas with people of similar racial and ethnic backgrounds. Quelle surprise!

/we're more likely to be segregated by income in this country
//doubt me? count all the different "homes starting at X" signs in your area
 
2014-04-10 03:00:57 PM  
Funny how the largest metro area in the "deep south" is ranked 24th in white-black segregation. City too busy to hate, biatches.

I always knew Northerners were more racist, glad it is finally being measured.
 
2014-04-10 03:01:38 PM  
So Providence is a non racist city...

That must be why it has a horrific heroin problem.
 
2014-04-10 03:03:17 PM  

Geoff Peterson: mike_d85: I've been saying this for years.  In the deep south (where everyone is assumes we arrange firewood in cross shapes just in case), you can have a black family in a white neighborhood and no one bats an eye.  You get a stray black person in a northern city and the whole neighborhood is at least talking about it.  And I've heard tale of violence, but that's heresay.

Great exchange between myself (white) and a random black man in Harvard Square:
He: No offense, but this is the most white people I've ever seen in my life.
*pause*
Me: Me too.
He: Where are you from.
Me: South Carolina.
He: Oh, so you're practically black.

That is complete bullshiat, but whatever.

If you're curious, the disparity has nothing to do with color and everything to do with education. Uneducated people do not make as much as educated people. Uneducated people median out regardless of color. One dropout makes the same as any other.

You can figure out the rest, cantcha?


Ah, but for a counterpoint, most of your "low-income" people are primarily black or latino. Are you saying black and latino people are uneducated?

/it's truth, go by the nearest trailer park.
 
2014-04-10 03:04:12 PM  

Infernalist: learn2fly: Anyone ever been to Tulsa?

Lived there for a few years.  Horrible horrible place to live.  All the negatives of living in the south combined with horrible Northern winters.

Oh and tornadoes all the goddamned time.  Worst place I've 'ever' lived, bar none.


Currently living in Tulsa and love it. Although you're right about the weather. We're lucky if we get a few dozen pleasant days to be outside per year. Either bitter cold and freakishly windy in the winter or furnace hot and freakishly windy in the summer.
 
2014-04-10 03:04:49 PM  

Great Odins Raven: I'd consider myself liberal. But most liberals that I know really only want to talk about how they are sooo tolerant and love diversity. But in practice....well, you see the results.


It is most likely self-segregation, which I dont see what the big deal is. Asians like to live around Asians, blacks like to live around blacks, etc. I know at least in Canada, data have shown East Asians like to live close to other East Asians despite income.
 
2014-04-10 03:06:29 PM  

mike_d85: Great exchange between myself (white) and a random black man in Harvard Square:
He: No offense, but this is the most white people I've ever seen in my life.


Nobody says something to you in Harvard Square and starts it with "No Offense"

The screaming preacher usually just starts right in with the hellfire shiat.
 
2014-04-10 03:07:22 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Dear schlubmitter and author of TFA,

The Mason-Dixon line is irrelevant to Chicago, San Francisco, Minneapolis, and other cities far west of where the Civil War was fought. (Yes, the line predates the war.)

See?

[www.exploretheline.com image 850x533]


Not to mention the fact that if you stretched the line from the MD-WV border all the way to the Pacific, SF would be South of it.

// also, Mason (d. 1786) and Dixon (d. 1779) both died before the Constitution was ratified
 
Ral
2014-04-10 03:09:03 PM  
Just want to point out that gentrification as a whole doesn't target poor people.  It targets trashy people who don't know how to behave like civilized human beings and keep their property in good order.
 
2014-04-10 03:15:09 PM  

Infernalist: Smeggy Smurf: JerseyTim: But but but no institutionalized racism.

Other than affirmative action and hiring quotas that assume that just because you're not white you're unable to compete.  Nothing like institutionalized racism under the guise of "helping".  Nothing like knowing that because you're white you're just so damned good that somebody needs to hold you back so "those people" can get out from under your boot.

You're adorable.

Get back to me when you get stopped for Driving While White.


it happens all the time, don't fool yourself
 
2014-04-10 03:15:21 PM  

mike_d85: Are you under the impression that Harvard Square is IN Harvard?


I can throw a baseball from 3/4 Harvard Square T stops into Harvard yard. At the fourth I would resort to hitting a Harvard student.
 
2014-04-10 03:16:53 PM  
Southern plantations were totally integrated because blacks and whites lived at the same address.
 
2014-04-10 03:17:31 PM  

mike_d85: Are you under the impression that Harvard Square is IN Harvard?


no, I'm saying strangers do not speak to each other in that manner, and your entire first paragraph is completely made up.

Does that clear the air a bit?
 
2014-04-10 03:17:49 PM  

chitownmike: Infernalist: Smeggy Smurf: JerseyTim: But but but no institutionalized racism.

Other than affirmative action and hiring quotas that assume that just because you're not white you're unable to compete.  Nothing like institutionalized racism under the guise of "helping".  Nothing like knowing that because you're white you're just so damned good that somebody needs to hold you back so "those people" can get out from under your boot.

You're adorable.

Get back to me when you get stopped for Driving While White.

it happens all the time, don't fool yourself


Sure it does.
 
2014-04-10 03:19:42 PM  

buckler: In Portland, I live in what has traditionally been a black neighborhood, and still has a majority-black population. The neighborhood and surrounding areas are undergoing major gentrification, which is attracting more whites and people of other ethnic groups, and this has a lot of long-time residents worried. However, the gentrification is being coupled with renovation and construction of affordable and mixed-income housing, which has allowed lower-income black (and white) residents to stay in the neighborhood, and often the same address, if they wish.

Other low-income housing units are also being built or upgraded throughout the city, so those who wish to leave the neighborhood in favor of something else (say, being closer to downtown amenities) to do so. So people of all ethnic groups who formerly lived in areas you could call "segregated" or "self-segregated", are flowing into each others' neighborhoods at an increasing rate.

I'm wondering how many other northers cities are following the same or similar pattern.


I call bullshiat. Renovation and construction costs money. There is no point to throw money down the drain to fix something up you won't see a return on. Outside of non-profit organizations and churches doing so as part of a charity or community service effort, no one in their right mind would do what you suggest. What is actually taking place is probably more along the lines of crack-houses being bulldozed over with town-homes being built as pseudo-fortresses that are median-cost so that young professionals purchase those homes in an effort to revitalize the area so that hopefully it attracts families, which in turn will bring money into the area and allow for additional development. Those folks in that area who own their own area can either sell their property and move further out, or sit in their shanty, however, property taxes alone are likely to get to the point where they have no other choice but to move.

Houston for example is a prime-example. Up until maybe 10 years ago, the Heights was an incredibly bad place to be and now it is one of the nicest areas. You have folks purchasing and renovating small bungalows that aren't all that expensive, and older folks who have lived there all their lives. However, the true "low-income" folks that are the reason why that area went down the gutter get run out of town and forced to go further out of town to places like Acres Homes or across 45. This is the same story anywhere and everywhere.
 
2014-04-10 03:22:09 PM  

Dafatone: If you put effort into exposing who the  real racists are, it's you.


Nothing like a race thread to bring out the self-righteous derp....

I bet some of your best friends are black, too
 
2014-04-10 03:22:42 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: buckler: In Portland, I live in what has traditionally been a black neighborhood, and still has a majority-black population. The neighborhood and surrounding areas are undergoing major gentrification, which is attracting more whites and people of other ethnic groups, and this has a lot of long-time residents worried. However, the gentrification is being coupled with renovation and construction of affordable and mixed-income housing, which has allowed lower-income black (and white) residents to stay in the neighborhood, and often the same address, if they wish.

Other low-income housing units are also being built or upgraded throughout the city, so those who wish to leave the neighborhood in favor of something else (say, being closer to downtown amenities) to do so. So people of all ethnic groups who formerly lived in areas you could call "segregated" or "self-segregated", are flowing into each others' neighborhoods at an increasing rate.

I'm wondering how many other northers cities are following the same or similar pattern.

I call bullshiat. Renovation and construction costs money. There is no point to throw money down the drain to fix something up you won't see a return on. Outside of non-profit organizations and churches doing so as part of a charity or community service effort, no one in their right mind would do what you suggest. What is actually taking place is probably more along the lines of crack-houses being bulldozed over with town-homes being built as pseudo-fortresses that are median-cost so that young professionals purchase those homes in an effort to revitalize the area so that hopefully it attracts families, which in turn will bring money into the area and allow for additional development. Those folks in that area who own their own area can either sell their property and move further out, or sit in their shanty, however, property taxes alone are likely to get to the point where they have no other choice but to move.

Houston for example is a prime-e ...


yeah, if you're a short term thinker.

Long term thinkers know that ghettos are terrible for everyone, rich and poor.

Short term thinkers are mostly interested in their immediate profits.

Sadly, too many people are short term thinkers.
 
2014-04-10 03:24:08 PM  
In my area of Portland I was noticing the other day how the English and Spanish speaking kids did not mingle at all.
 
2014-04-10 03:25:45 PM  

Infernalist: chitownmike: Infernalist: Smeggy Smurf: JerseyTim: But but but no institutionalized racism.

Other than affirmative action and hiring quotas that assume that just because you're not white you're unable to compete.  Nothing like institutionalized racism under the guise of "helping".  Nothing like knowing that because you're white you're just so damned good that somebody needs to hold you back so "those people" can get out from under your boot.

You're adorable.

Get back to me when you get stopped for Driving While White.

it happens all the time, don't fool yourself

Sure it does.


Cops see a white guy driving through a minority neighborhood, they ask why
 
2014-04-10 03:28:19 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: buckler: In Portland, I live in what has traditionally been a black neighborhood, and still has a majority-black population. The neighborhood and surrounding areas are undergoing major gentrification, which is attracting more whites and people of other ethnic groups, and this has a lot of long-time residents worried. However, the gentrification is being coupled with renovation and construction of affordable and mixed-income housing, which has allowed lower-income black (and white) residents to stay in the neighborhood, and often the same address, if they wish.

Other low-income housing units are also being built or upgraded throughout the city, so those who wish to leave the neighborhood in favor of something else (say, being closer to downtown amenities) to do so. So people of all ethnic groups who formerly lived in areas you could call "segregated" or "self-segregated", are flowing into each others' neighborhoods at an increasing rate.

I'm wondering how many other northers cities are following the same or similar pattern.

I call bullshiat. Renovation and construction costs money. There is no point to throw money down the drain to fix something up you won't see a return on. Outside of non-profit organizations and churches doing so as part of a charity or community service effort, no one in their right mind would do what you suggest. What is actually taking place is probably more along the lines of crack-houses being bulldozed over with town-homes being built as pseudo-fortresses that are median-cost so that young professionals purchase those homes in an effort to revitalize the area so that hopefully it attracts families, which in turn will bring money into the area and allow for additional development. Those folks in that area who own their own area can either sell their property and move further out, or sit in their shanty, however, property taxes alone are likely to get to the point where they have no other choice but to move.

Houston for example is a prime-e ...


I'm about to run late for an appointment, otherwise I'd do a little digging for hard info; as it is, I can only speak anecdotally. Certainly revitalization is a consideration, and a prime goal for the Portland Development Commission, which is the organization through which much of the gentrification is being done. However, the city also wants to sharply curb homelessness, since that tends to put a strain on law enforcement, medical and social services. Getting people into stable, affordable housing and employment programs help relieve that strain, and is ultimately a money-saver in the long run. I also suspect there's a gigantic cultural divide (in fact, I know there is) between Portland and Houston.
 
2014-04-10 03:29:30 PM  

Geoff Peterson: mike_d85: Are you under the impression that Harvard Square is IN Harvard?

no, I'm saying strangers do not speak to each other in that manner, and your entire first paragraph is completely made up.

Does that clear the air a bit?


So just to be clear...  I do not currently live in South Carolina with a black family across the street and totally hallucinated that year in Boston where people were worried that the family that owned the "Paki store" would move into the neighborhood.  Right.  Gotcha.

We were both sitting there for an hour or two chatting if that helps you cope.  I was waiting on a friend to get out of work and he was killing time for one reason or another.

satanorsanta: mike_d85: Are you under the impression that Harvard Square is IN Harvard?

I can throw a baseball from 3/4 Harvard Square T stops into Harvard yard. At the fourth I would resort to hitting a Harvard student.


Yeah, but it's in the middle of a city.  You'd expect to see at least a handful of people that aren't pasty walking through the square.  I never saw black people who weren't working anywhere off the Orange line.
 
2014-04-10 03:30:53 PM  
No minorities in Harvard Square and more white people than you can shake a stick at? Bull. There are lots of International people/students all over the Square. Actually in the Pit (right outside the subway entrance) you have a lot of all races there. Harvard Square is hardly some type of Caucasian Utopia. Not that I care so much about the Square now. Everything that made the place interesting is gone. Now it's just one big open air mall of the most common retail stores.
 
2014-04-10 03:31:14 PM  

mike_d85: e were both sitting there for an hour or two chatting if that helps you cope. I was waiting on a friend to get out of work and he was killing time for one reason or another.


Actually that helps quite a bit, for what its worth.
 
2014-04-10 03:31:47 PM  
From the "What more am I supposed to do?" file:

"Educated liberals are tolerant people who are willing to live in racially integrated areas even if the minority neighbors are poor. Such liberals are more willing to vote for redistributionist policies and this may attract poor people to collect such transfers."
 
2014-04-10 03:33:05 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Other than affirmative action and hiring quotas that assume that just because you're not white you're unable to compete.  Nothing like institutionalized racism under the guise of "helping".  Nothing like knowing that because you're white you're just so damned good that somebody needs to hold you back so "those people" can get out from under your boot.



Sounds like you've had some professional or educational setbacks and you've decided to attribute them to the fact that you're not a minority.
 
2014-04-10 03:36:31 PM  

mike_d85: Yeah, but it's in the middle of a city.  You'd expect to see at least a handful of people that aren't pasty walking through the square.  I never saw black people who weren't working anywhere off the Orange line.


You know how I know you didn't get out much?
 
2014-04-10 03:42:19 PM  

fluffy2097: mike_d85: Yeah, but it's in the middle of a city.  You'd expect to see at least a handful of people that aren't pasty walking through the square.  I never saw black people who weren't working anywhere off the Orange line.

You know how I know you didn't get out much?


Because I'm on Fark and that is on the list of assumptions.  I'm not saying it's not true.

It doesn't explain the Jew-Joke competition in Southie that I witnessed, though.
 
2014-04-10 03:42:30 PM  
I am reminded of a saying:

"In the South, they don't care how close black folks get, as long as they don't get too high.

In the North, they don't care how high black folks get, as long as they don't get too close."

/james w johnson was writing about this back in the early 20th century. It's not a new feature.
 
2014-04-10 03:44:05 PM  

Geoff Peterson: mike_d85: e were both sitting there for an hour or two chatting if that helps you cope. I was waiting on a friend to get out of work and he was killing time for one reason or another.

Actually that helps quite a bit, for what its worth.


OK.
 
2014-04-10 03:45:45 PM  

mike_d85: It doesn't explain the Jew-Joke competition in Southie that I witnessed, though.


Based on what I know about Boston, there was probably at least one Jew involved.

// though, Southie, so maybe not?
 
2014-04-10 03:51:47 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Dear schlubmitter and author of TFA,

The Mason-Dixon line is irrelevant to Chicago, San Francisco, Minneapolis, and other cities far west of where the Civil War was fought. (Yes, the line predates the war.)

See?

[www.exploretheline.com image 850x533]


Chicago (lat: 44.8819) is still north of ('above') the Mason-Dixon line (39.7167), as is Minneapolis (44.983). San Fran, not so much (37.783).

(So is Canada.)

Anyway, didn't we just do this like last week or so? Oh, wait: that was most racially-segregated schools. Which I believe was explained away by the fact that the cities are racially segregated, so yeah.
 
2014-04-10 03:52:40 PM  

Truther: Racism.

That must be why.

There is no other possible reason.


If you analyze these statistics with regard to race, you're going to find racial disparity. The trouble is there's no real benefit to looking at the numbers this way. Poor black people act the same as poor white people. It sucks just as much to be poor no matter what you look like.

What are we seriously going to do about it? Hire more black people? Admit more black people to state college? Mandate a black minimum wage? What result is special treatment going to have? Fewer poor black people? Does it really matter if poor people are black or white?
 
2014-04-10 03:54:09 PM  
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Really?!  Fark you.  Some of us work in places where IE8 is the only option.  Maybe you should not simply exclude people because you're too lazy to make a site that's friendly for everyone.
 
2014-04-10 03:55:59 PM  
wow, this totally changes the historical context of the american civil war!
 
2014-04-10 04:02:04 PM  
Eh. I don't mind a little dig on libbies but we live in a smaller city in northern Indiana of around 50,000 and even though it's probably 80-85% white and has had a republican mayor for years and years, everyone gets along well. We live in a subdivision outside of the main part of town, it's almost more rural than suburban and while the residents are probably 90-95% white, nobody pays much mind when a black family moves in and many of them are mixed couples.

There is an interracial couple in a house down the street from us and even though they could keep their property up better, they're very friendly and get along well with everyone. The husband is the only black guy living on the street and he told me he's never felt uncomfortable here.

I personally could care less what you look like as long as you don't cause any trouble. There aren't a whole of shenanigans in our area and when they do happen, 99% of the time it's some white punk teenager.
 
2014-04-10 04:04:27 PM  
Nobody likes white people.
 
2014-04-10 04:04:43 PM  
When I lived in Nashville, having moved there from the North, I was told repeatedly "Theah are two types of Yankees.  Regulah Yankees, they live up Nawth.  But Damn Yankees, they live right heah!"  as they looked me in the eye.

I moved back within the year.
 
2014-04-10 04:08:05 PM  
Although there are still plenty of racists, and plenty of assholes giving people reasons to be racist today, racism is in sharp decline generally and only going to further disappear. In its place, classism, political partisanship, and religious bigotry have been sharply on the rise again, and the internet has enabled insular microcommunities to thrive without having to move into a compound in the mountains. People will always find a way to separate and feel superior to others, it's kind of the human condition. I'm sure not immune to it.
 
2014-04-10 04:14:28 PM  

hoyt clagwell: When I lived in Nashville, having moved there from the North, I was told repeatedly "Theah are two types of Yankees.  Regulah Yankees, they live up Nawth.  But Damn Yankees, they live right heah!"  as they looked me in the eye.

I moved back within the year.


That is how you tell the difference. Yankees visit, DamnYankees stay.

Not sure if it is true, but I worked with a guy from Long Island for a number of years and he told me that people back home were the most prejudiced people he'd ever been around. One thing is true - if you grow up with other races at the same basic economic level you learn that people are people, good and bad in all of them.
 
2014-04-10 04:17:55 PM  

Infernalist: yeah, if you're a short term thinker.

Long term thinkers know that ghettos are terrible for everyone, rich and poor.

Short term thinkers are mostly interested in their immediate profits.

Sadly, too many people are short term thinkers.


That is because people have to do things like eat. You can't run a business with long-term strategies unless you have the capital to pull it off. That kind of money is scarce for folks, and you can't run an effective business by having only long-term strategies. How many developers out there are willing to go put in a neighborhood and go "hey that's cool, you don't have to pay me for 20 years." You can't do that. Which is my point that it HAS to come from the uber-wealthy as a side-project, a non-profit organization, or act of charity. Typically we call those "projects". You also have master-planned communities such as here locally, the Woodlands or Kingwood. These areas started off basically as whole communities in the middle of nowhere and have flourished. That is a big gamble, but one that has had consistent short-term pay-off, along with overwhelming long-term profits.

In the example of Portland revitalization, I was correct in my assessment that it was through a city commission, and not through the private sector. To many folks this seems bad that low-income families have to relocate as money and development push them out, however that is just how the world works. With that said, the point of discussion becomes do we push the problems away only to make them worse, or try to deal with them, which creates an enormous strain up front, but hopefully rectifies the situation in the long-run? That is a very difficult choice to make and there is no real right answer. Portland chooses the latter, where Houston more-or-less chooses the first.
 
2014-04-10 04:20:28 PM  

ArcadianRefugee


Chicago (lat: 44.8819) is still north of ('above') the Mason-Dixon line (39.7167), as is Minneapolis (44.983). San Fran, not so much (37.783).

(So is Canada.)


*facepalm*

The point - which you well and truly missed - was that the Mason-Dixon line stops at the western end of Pennsylvania. It is not a line of latitude unto itself, going across the entire country. The cities I mentioned are not geographically related to the line in any way, except that they are west of it as they are west of Baltimore or NYC or the Atlantic Ocean.
 
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Really?!  Fark you.  Some of us work in places where IE8 is the only option.  Maybe you should not simply exclude people because you're too lazy to make a site that's friendly for everyone.


You're going to see an increase in browser disparity now that XP is not getting any more security updates.

farking Microsoft is gentrifying the OS community without caring about the security impact on companies unwilling to invest in new capital.

Microsoft hates poor people!

* or stingy boards of directors.
 
2014-04-10 04:20:39 PM  
I'm gonna guess it's largely due to high cost of living, and some cultures statistically not valuing fiscal responsibility, savings and education as much as others. Some of said cultures are far more prominently some races over others.
 
2014-04-10 04:22:48 PM  

IHadMeAVision: Up north even the white rich neighborhoods are segregated.  You got the Irish-Catholic neighborhood, the Jewish neighborhood, the Russian and/or Persian Jewish neighborhood, the old money WASP neighborhood, the new-money WASP neighborhood, etc.


To an extent, people tend to self-segregate, choosing to live aroun others who share similar culture and values. There have always been ethnic neighborhoods and always will be as long as people choose to associate largely with others like themselves.
 
2014-04-10 04:22:50 PM  

chitownmike: Cops see a white guy driving through a minority neighborhood, they ask why


Yeah, if a white guy or someone in a really nice car is rolling around in Austin or West Garfield Park well off the expressway and a cop sees it, it wouldn't be unusual to get pulled over or be followed. They assume you're there buying drugs.
 
2014-04-10 04:25:11 PM  

Geoff Peterson: If you're curious, the disparity has nothing to do with color and everything to do with education. Uneducated people do not make as much as educated people. Uneducated people median out regardless of color. One dropout makes the same as any other.

You can figure out the rest, cantcha?


This is probably accurate.  From the farking article:

According to 2005-2009 data based on the U.S. Census American Community Survey, which was provided to me by John Logan, a demographer at Brown University, the San Francisco-San Mateo-Redwood City metropolitan area has an astonishing $56,000 white-black gap in household median income.

Another term for the "San Francisco-San Mateo-Redwood City metropolitan area" is Silicon Valley.  Computer engineering is known to have a very small number of African Americans and Latinos working in it (but a large number of whites, Indians (dot not feather), and Asians).
 
2014-04-10 04:25:22 PM  

Superjew: Defensive Much, Southern US?



Actually, most of this thread sounds like defensive Northerners.
 
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  4. Click here to submit a link.

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