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(Bloomberg View)   "The most segregated cities in the U.S. are above the Mason-Dixon line." Suck it, Damyankees   (bloombergview.com) divider line 180
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vpb [TotalFark]
2014-04-10 11:57:12 AM  
Because a lot of them moved from the South to get away from racism and also because cities in the North have more low income housing?
 
2014-04-10 12:47:34 PM  
Love the article title, "Liberal cities...".  The author's other works include "How the Tea Party Saved America" and "Chris Christie Doesn't Play Hardball".
 
2014-04-10 12:49:03 PM  
Reported, calling out Farker in the headline.
 
2014-04-10 01:08:31 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Reported, calling out Farker in the headline.


How did I not catch that?
 
2014-04-10 01:11:17 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Love the article title, "Liberal cities...".  The author's other works include "How the Tea Party Saved America" and "Chris Christie Doesn't Play Hardball".


Can't argue with the bulk of the article, though. Especially the multiple, politically neutral theories about why such a discrepancy exists.

I know that in San Francisco, gentrification is pushing lower-income folks of all backgrounds out of the city. So, that should solve the problem.
 
2014-04-10 01:31:27 PM  
In before "Yeah, but it's worse in this and that city over there"
 
2014-04-10 01:53:44 PM  
American people problems.
 
2014-04-10 02:05:45 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Can't argue with the bulk of the article, though. Especially the multiple, politically neutral theories about why such a discrepancy exists.

I know that in San Francisco, gentrification is pushing lower-income folks of all backgrounds out of the city. So, that should solve the problem


I can tell you why Philadelphia is so segregated.  The people in each one of those neighborhoods is racist as all hell.  I could tell you stories.  Suffice it to say that the complexion of any block doesn't change without some major conflicts.
 
2014-04-10 02:31:09 PM  
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2014-04-10 02:32:18 PM  
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Feels insulted by the headline.
 
2014-04-10 02:33:34 PM  
www.racerrecords.com
Can you take me high enough?
 
2014-04-10 02:34:54 PM  
I'll have to look into their methodology because there are parts of Dallas I go to where I'm the only white guy without a badge.
 
2014-04-10 02:35:43 PM  
Pete and Re-Pete?
 
2014-04-10 02:35:51 PM  
But but but no institutionalized racism.
 
2014-04-10 02:36:51 PM  
It's almost like the higher the population density the more you will see this... shocking

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2014-04-10 02:36:52 PM  
This just in - cities have high income inequality.

More on this breaking story at 11.
 
2014-04-10 02:37:00 PM  
I'd consider myself liberal. But most liberals that I know really only want to talk about how they are sooo tolerant and love diversity. But in practice....well, you see the results.
 
2014-04-10 02:37:03 PM  
Stop using that word.

Just stop it.

Now.
 
2014-04-10 02:37:35 PM  
I've been saying this for years.  In the deep south (where everyone is assumes we arrange firewood in cross shapes just in case), you can have a black family in a white neighborhood and no one bats an eye.  You get a stray black person in a northern city and the whole neighborhood is at least talking about it.  And I've heard tale of violence, but that's heresay.

Great exchange between myself (white) and a random black man in Harvard Square:
He: No offense, but this is the most white people I've ever seen in my life.
*pause*
Me: Me too.
He: Where are you from.
Me: South Carolina.
He: Oh, so you're practically black.
 
2014-04-10 02:37:48 PM  
Where are these floating cities that are above the line?
 
2014-04-10 02:37:52 PM  

Great Odins Raven: I'd consider myself liberal. But most liberals that I know really only want to talk about how they are sooo tolerant and love diversity. But in practice....well, you see the results.


Yeah, you sound like a liberal alright.
 
2014-04-10 02:38:52 PM  
Is it not segregation if you don't allow the brown people to live within the city limits?
 
2014-04-10 02:39:14 PM  
people with similar traits tend to cluster together
story at 11
 
2014-04-10 02:39:47 PM  
Defensive Much, Southern US?
 
2014-04-10 02:40:23 PM  
There is no definitive cause, and explanations vary.


Nice how they buried that, isn't it?
 
2014-04-10 02:40:29 PM  
I currently live in St. Louis and I can say for a fact that it is by far the most segregated town I've ever lived in.
 
2014-04-10 02:40:32 PM  
Up north even the white rich neighborhoods are segregated.  You got the Irish-Catholic neighborhood, the Jewish neighborhood, the Russian and/or Persian Jewish neighborhood, the old money WASP neighborhood, the new-money WASP neighborhood, etc.
 
2014-04-10 02:40:53 PM  
Racism.

That must be why.

There is no other possible reason.
 
2014-04-10 02:42:12 PM  
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Daymn Yankees!
 
2014-04-10 02:42:31 PM  
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2014-04-10 02:42:41 PM  
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Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets...
(Unless the player is on the other team, if you get my drift-google Tab Hunter.)
 
2014-04-10 02:44:00 PM  

mike_d85: I've been saying this for years.  In the deep south (where everyone is assumes we arrange firewood in cross shapes just in case), you can have a black family in a white neighborhood and no one bats an eye.  You get a stray black person in a northern city and the whole neighborhood is at least talking about it.  And I've heard tale of violence, but that's heresay.

Great exchange between myself (white) and a random black man in Harvard Square:
He: No offense, but this is the most white people I've ever seen in my life.
*pause*
Me: Me too.
He: Where are you from.
Me: South Carolina.
He: Oh, so you're practically black.


That is complete bullshiat, but whatever.

If you're curious, the disparity has nothing to do with color and everything to do with education. Uneducated people do not make as much as educated people. Uneducated people median out regardless of color. One dropout makes the same as any other.

You can figure out the rest, cantcha?
 
2014-04-10 02:44:52 PM  
A dichotomy is afoot, somewhere amongst the submission of and commentation on this thread....
 
2014-04-10 02:45:21 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Love the article title, "Liberal cities...".  The author's other works include "How the Tea Party Saved America" and "Chris Christie Doesn't Play Hardball".


Bet the author humps floors too.

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2014-04-10 02:45:50 PM  

Geoff Peterson: mike_d85: I've been saying this for years.  In the deep south (where everyone is assumes we arrange firewood in cross shapes just in case), you can have a black family in a white neighborhood and no one bats an eye.  You get a stray black person in a northern city and the whole neighborhood is at least talking about it.  And I've heard tale of violence, but that's heresay.

Great exchange between myself (white) and a random black man in Harvard Square:
He: No offense, but this is the most white people I've ever seen in my life.
*pause*
Me: Me too.
He: Where are you from.
Me: South Carolina.
He: Oh, so you're practically black.

That is complete bullshiat, but whatever.

If you're curious, the disparity has nothing to do with color and everything to do with education. Uneducated people do not make as much as educated people. Uneducated people median out regardless of color. One dropout makes the same as any other.

You can figure out the rest, cantcha?


That stands to reason except for the practice of redlining which derails sensible outcomes.
 
2014-04-10 02:46:20 PM  
The loudest mouths are always the guiltiest.
 
2014-04-10 02:46:31 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Love the article title, "Liberal cities...".  The author's other works include "How the Tea Party Saved America" and "Chris Christie Doesn't Play Hardball".


Obesity is a leading cause of softballs.
 
2014-04-10 02:46:45 PM  
Dear schlubmitter and author of TFA,

The Mason-Dixon line is irrelevant to Chicago, San Francisco, Minneapolis, and other cities far west of where the Civil War was fought. (Yes, the line predates the war.)

See?

www.exploretheline.com
 
2014-04-10 02:47:23 PM  
If you put effort into exposing who the  real racists are, it's you.
 
2014-04-10 02:48:04 PM  
What do you expect?  In a place like Mississippi where the population is basically half and half, everything is integrated.
 
2014-04-10 02:48:45 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: That stands to reason except for the practice of redlining which derails sensible outcomes.


ok, fark it, it's racism. Feel better?
 
2014-04-10 02:49:13 PM  

Guelph35: Where are these floating cities that are above the line?


Above the line.
 
2014-04-10 02:50:01 PM  
Anyone ever been to Tulsa?
 
2014-04-10 02:50:27 PM  
Redlining. The answer is redlining.

If Libertarians and "small-government conservatives" were such farking racist morons, they could put together a nice argument based on the Post-War Government expansion exacerbated the decline of our major cities. The FHA, Housing Projects, Cross-Bronx Expressway, etc... were all government programs that drove segregation, increased income inequality and slaughtered the tax base of our cities.
 
2014-04-10 02:51:13 PM  

learn2fly: Anyone ever been to Tulsa?


Lived there for a few years.  Horrible horrible place to live.  All the negatives of living in the south combined with horrible Northern winters.

Oh and tornadoes all the goddamned time.  Worst place I've 'ever' lived, bar none.
 
2014-04-10 02:52:58 PM  
Spike Lee doesn't want people who aren't attractive and successful moving into his neighborhood.
 
2014-04-10 02:54:32 PM  
In Portland, I live in what has traditionally been a black neighborhood, and still has a majority-black population. The neighborhood and surrounding areas are undergoing major gentrification, which is attracting more whites and people of other ethnic groups, and this has a lot of long-time residents worried. However, the gentrification is being coupled with renovation and construction of affordable and mixed-income housing, which has allowed lower-income black (and white) residents to stay in the neighborhood, and often the same address, if they wish.

Other low-income housing units are also being built or upgraded throughout the city, so those who wish to leave the neighborhood in favor of something else (say, being closer to downtown amenities) to do so. So people of all ethnic groups who formerly lived in areas you could call "segregated" or "self-segregated", are flowing into each others' neighborhoods at an increasing rate.

I'm wondering how many other northers cities are following the same or similar pattern.
 
2014-04-10 02:55:33 PM  
Fat fingers today. Sorry.
 
2014-04-10 02:56:01 PM  

Geoff Peterson: mike_d85: I've been saying this for years.  In the deep south (where everyone is assumes we arrange firewood in cross shapes just in case), you can have a black family in a white neighborhood and no one bats an eye.  You get a stray black person in a northern city and the whole neighborhood is at least talking about it.  And I've heard tale of violence, but that's heresay.

Great exchange between myself (white) and a random black man in Harvard Square:
He: No offense, but this is the most white people I've ever seen in my life.
*pause*
Me: Me too.
He: Where are you from.
Me: South Carolina.
He: Oh, so you're practically black.

That is complete bullshiat, but whatever.

If you're curious, the disparity has nothing to do with color and everything to do with education. Uneducated people do not make as much as educated people. Uneducated people median out regardless of color. One dropout makes the same as any other.

You can figure out the rest, cantcha?


Are you under the impression that Harvard Square is IN Harvard?
 
2014-04-10 02:57:15 PM  

JerseyTim: But but but no institutionalized racism.


Other than affirmative action and hiring quotas that assume that just because you're not white you're unable to compete.  Nothing like institutionalized racism under the guise of "helping".  Nothing like knowing that because you're white you're just so damned good that somebody needs to hold you back so "those people" can get out from under your boot.
 
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