mark12A: Chart Time?[wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com image 555x456]
Damnhippyfreak: mark12A: Chart Time?[wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com image 555x456]Yowch. I haven't seen this one before, but your critical thinking alarms should be going off at this point. What should be immediately visible to someone with some background knowledge:- comparing model runs which predict surface temperature with mid-tropospheric temperature is very misleading.- not including any sort of error measurement for either data set or models completely ignores the range of values inherent in all three, rendering any judgement of meaningful differences between them impossible.- setting a single point in time as a baseline makes an a priori assumption about the accuracy of the data at that one point, and would misleadingly increase any difference as this would conflate any sought-after potential difference with differences due to short-termvariability.I know this is just an overview, but we can get more into any of these points if you're interested.Whomever made that graph is trying to lie to you. It looks like it was made for a non-scientific audience and they seem to be assuming the intended audience wouldn't know any better. I suggest extreme caution in dealing with information from that source in future.
SevenizGud: Way to cherrypick the baseline, hockey teamer.
SevenizGud: Hide the hiatus.
Observational data from Cowtan and Way, 2013. Climate model data from the CMIP5 project, via KNMI Climate Explorer.Feel free to plot them yourself. I used a 60 month running mean to preserve decadal variability but keep the comparisons readable. Baseline is standard 1961-1990.
whidbey: Pretty sure any animal farting is a mousefart in comparision to the greenhouse gases humans are belching out.Oh well, guess they had to know for sure.
Ned Stark: Farting is carbon neutral.
Joe Blowme: Subby seems like a camel fart denier, string him up
BizarreMan: Probably not as much as cow farts because the number of camels is much less fewer than the number of cows.
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